If Mo State doesn't sweep WSU...

[iSASO]

something is very wrong with them.

[Nyghtewynd]

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Wow...you can see 'em moving already...

[shocker3]

The big series starts in 16.5 hours. :valley: :shockers:

[MikeKennedyRulz]

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Wow...you can see 'em moving already...

Its not moving, its called reality. The team is just plain not hitting anything right now. MSU's first baseman should get plenty of opportunities to record putouts this weekend, as every Shocker seems to hit the ball right to the first baseman. Many fans will continue to support the Shox no matter what (i.e. 4,000+ at the game against Oral Bob on Wed.), but what we have witnessed over the last couple of weeks is borderline laughable.

[Highway65]

Shockers are a respected program. I doubt this will be a sweep.

[BeeLine]

What a typical iSASO ploy. No matter what the Bears do he's try to position the outcome so as to discredit the effort. Facts are Shox backs are to the wall, playing the league leading team in the Shox own back yard. They have all those stud recruits that we hear about every year, a great home crowd and homefield advantage, college baseball's coaching legend firing his team up. This should be an easy series for the Shox to reassert themselves. If the Bears even win one game it'll represent a monumental choke job by Gene and the whole Shox program. I mean how can you have all that stockpiled talent, the home advantage, and all the incentives the Shox will have, and not come out and play lights out baseball. I mean really, with what we;ve heard about the disparity between the talent WSU signs and the leftovers the Bears and the rest of the league gets, I'm not really sure how the SHOX have lost a conference game let alone every series to date. No, this is where any program with that much talent has to step up and sweep the visitors if they have any balls at all.

[Canevision]

What a typical iSASO ploy. No matter what the Bears do he's try to position the outcome so as to discredit the effort. Facts are Shox backs are to the wall, playing the league leading team in the Shox own back yard. They have all those stud recruits that we hear about every year, a great home crowd and homefield advantage, college baseball's coaching legend firing his team up. This should be an easy series for the Shox to reassert themselves. If the Bears even win one game it'll represent a monumental choke job by Gene and the whole Shox program. I mean how can you have all that stockpiled talent, the home advantage, and all the incentives the Shox will have, and not come out and play lights out baseball. I mean really, with what we;ve heard about the disparity between the talent WSU signs and the leftovers the Bears and the rest of the league gets, I'm not really sure how the SHOX have lost a conference game let alone every series to date. No, this is where any program with that much talent has to step up and sweep the visitors if they have any balls at all.

Hmmmm.....:bears:

[JerryBearSeinfeld]

something is very wrong with them.

wow. this is too easy, ISASO has himself covered on both sides, if MSU loses or WSU wins with this thread

so ill do the same

if WSU doesn't sweep MSU, something is very wrong with them.:clap:

[Canevision]

1-0 Shockers already. Typical Bears vs. Shock thus far.

Run scored on as Bears fall asleep on defense, runner scores from 2nd on a grounder to the 1st baseman.

[Coasterbill42]

MSU 5
WSU 2

Bot 3?:bears:

[Highway65]

Mr.ISASO sounds like a U.S Senator.:bears:

[iSASO]

What a typical iSASO ploy. No matter what the Bears do he's try to position the outcome so as to discredit the effort. Facts are Shox backs are to the wall, playing the league leading team in the Shox own back yard. They have all those stud recruits that we hear about every year, a great home crowd and homefield advantage, college baseball's coaching legend firing his team up. This should be an easy series for the Shox to reassert themselves. If the Bears even win one game it'll represent a monumental choke job by Gene and the whole Shox program. I mean how can you have all that stockpiled talent, the home advantage, and all the incentives the Shox will have, and not come out and play lights out baseball. I mean really, with what we;ve heard about the disparity between the talent WSU signs and the leftovers the Bears and the rest of the league gets, I'm not really sure how the SHOX have lost a conference game let alone every series to date. No, this is where any program with that much talent has to step up and sweep the visitors if they have any balls at all.

Are you kidding me? According to your very own fellow poster, MSU has all the advantages. WSU is merely a helpless bystander in the glorious parade of dominance MSU has unleashed upon the league. In case you forgot...

Gosmsgo – May 10, 2004 11:16pm –
“isaio....are you coming to the valley tournament??

after you see hammons field....you will know two things.

#1. the future of valley baseball is the bears.
#2. WSU will never again host anything when they are in competition with springfield/hammons field.”

[shocker3]

Shox win game 1: 7 to 5.

The Shox scored 7 runs on 9 hits.

It has been awhile since we have done that.:valley: :shockers:

[Canevision]

Are you kidding me? According to your very own fellow poster, MSU has all the advantages. WSU is merely a helpless bystander in the glorious parade of dominance MSU has unleashed upon the league. In case you forgot...

Gosmsgo – May 10, 2004 11:16pm –
“isaio....are you coming to the valley tournament??

after you see hammons field....you will know two things.

#1. the future of valley baseball is the bears.
#2. WSU will never again host anything when they are in competition with springfield/hammons field.”

Most people here do not claim gosmsgo as one of our own. He is sort of the Cold version of Bear fans.

[Nyghtewynd]

Listening to iSASO complain about trolls is funny on so many levels.

[iSASO]

I relish trolls. Or at least have relish on them when I have them for lunch.

[bearhair]

Quote from isaso......"Not bad for a team picked fifth!"

ACTUALLY BEING IN SIXTH !

[Tasmanian Devil]

Quote from isaso......"Not bad for a team picked fifth!"

ACTUALLY BEING IN SIXTH !

That quote is referring to the basketball team but here's something to keep you company tonight:

16 - 5

[WSUbballer]

Ouuuch. 14 in a row over MSU in baseball, 8 in a row over MSU in basketball. Who's your daddy?

[redbirdtim]

Be interesting to see how some of the Bears fans try to spin these losses. 16 losses in a row to Wichita...I don't even think we have that many in a row to the Shox.

[Highway65]

Wichita State is a mental monkey to Mo State. The Bears just need to go out and play Bear baseball,not be spooked out by the dam Shocker.

[goshoxgo]

Wichita State is a mental monkey to Mo State. The Bears just need to go out and play Bear baseball,not be spooked out by the dam Shocker.
hey Highway good try on the whole 5th and 6th place insult back there. The bears arn't spooked by anything, they just got beat by the more talented team the last two days. Hopefully shafer will shut you guys down tommorow and the shocks walk away with the sweep.:shockers:

[WSUbballer]

Be interesting to see how some of the Bears fans try to spin these losses. 16 losses in a row to Wichita...I don't even think we have that many in a row to the Shox.
LOL. I wish more of MSU's fans and yes even WSU fans had just a partial amount of class as what you bring to the board.:redbirds:

[WSUbballer]

Wichita State is a mental monkey to Mo State. The Bears just need to go out and play Bear baseball,not be spooked out by the dam Shocker.
Teams can get spooked by a game or two. 14 games in a row spanning over 3 years is no spook.

[shocker3]

Maybe their coaches are spooked.:grin:

[fontleroyjr]

we stink. i said before this series that i didnt put too much stock in our conference record after playing just ue and uni. our strength, starting pitching, just hasnt shown up against a struggling offensive team.

no way to spin these losses. wsu owns us plain and simple.

[iSASO]

Maybe MSU needs to hire former Shocker All-American Travis Wyckoff away from Creighton. That might end the streak.

[bearhair]

Well the FACT, not the SPIN, is that the shocks are still in the middle of the pack and looking at our rear. But since you want to go back in history. The Bears are the most recent team to GO to the world series not TALK about it.

[iSASO]

And they're also probably the only MVC team to make the CWS and never win a game.

[bearhair]

Could be - but THEY were THERE:yes: :bears:

[WSUbballer]

Could be - but THEY were THERE:yes: :bears:
If you want even more recent history, we could go to last year. Unfortunately, there's no posteason history to compare, seeing the Bears couldn't even make the Valley tournament.

[WSUfan]

What a typical iSASO ploy. No matter what the Bears do he's try to position the outcome so as to discredit the effort. Facts are Shox backs are to the wall, playing the league leading team in the Shox own back yard. They have all those stud recruits that we hear about every year, a great home crowd and homefield advantage, college baseball's coaching legend firing his team up. This should be an easy series for the Shox to reassert themselves. If the Bears even win one game it'll represent a monumental choke job by Gene and the whole Shox program. I mean how can you have all that stockpiled talent, the home advantage, and all the incentives the Shox will have, and not come out and play lights out baseball. I mean really, with what we;ve heard about the disparity between the talent WSU signs and the leftovers the Bears and the rest of the league gets, I'm not really sure how the SHOX have lost a conference game let alone every series to date. No, this is where any program with that much talent has to step up and sweep the visitors if they have any balls at all.
OK

[iSASO]

They have all those stud recruits that we hear about every year, a great home crowd and homefield advantage, college baseball's coaching legend firing his team up. This should be an easy series for the Shox to reassert themselves. If the Bears even win one game it'll represent a monumental choke job by Gene and the whole Shox program. I mean how can you have all that stockpiled talent, the home advantage, and all the incentives the Shox will have, and not come out and play lights out baseball. I mean really, with what we;ve heard about the disparity between the talent WSU signs and the leftovers the Bears and the rest of the league gets...No, this is where any program with that much talent has to step up and sweep the visitors if they have any balls at all.

Looks like you were right. Plenty of balls in the dugout and on the field. In this "lost season" WSU swept the Crown Prince of the Valley?

[shocker3]

Well the sweep did happen after all.


The new kings of the Valley are now something like 0-14 against the Shox in the last few meetings.

Its been so long since SMS won a game against the Shox I can't remember.


I am sure glad you guys swept Arkansas this year.:valley: :shockers:

[bearhair]

I can understand your joy to have won against the Bears, that was a huge accomplishment. Something a 6th place team would normally do. Congratulations

[shocker3]

If we can pull off another sweep next week against Bradley, the Valley race for first place becomes wide open for about 6 teams. :shockers:

[shocker3]

I can understand your joy to have won against the Bears, that was a huge accomplishment. Something a 6th place team would normally do. Congratulations


Since the bears failed to finish in the top 6 last year, I guess you guys wouldn't really know how a top 6 team is suppose to play or react.:valley: :shockers:

[iSASO]

Let's count up the number of weeks both programs have been #6 or lower since the MVC was founded in 1990.

Bear Fans, you first. Once you get to 10, let us know and we won't bother counting here in Shocker Country.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Well the FACT, not the SPIN, is that the shocks are still in the middle of the pack and looking at our rear. But since you want to go back in history. The Bears are the most recent team to GO to the world series not TALK about it.

Something from today's Wichita Eagle that somehow seems appropriate to this thread:


Missouri State won the MVC title and played in the College World Series in 2003. It's been a struggle since that breakthrough effort

They are 76-70, and haven't returned to an NCAA regional or finished higher than third in the MVC.

MSU is 0-11 vs. the Shockers since its CWS appearance.

:bears: :bears: :bears:

[outpost]

Made it out to all three ballgames.

After a brief appearance Friday night, "Cheeseburger" was nowhere to be found on Saturday or Sunday. :no:

I'm sure he was in the dugout somewhere.

Incidentally, I thought Detwiler was going to throw 200 pitches yesterday. Gene pulled Aaron Shafer after 105.

[Ozell]

Wichita State is a mental monkey to Mo State. The Bears just need to go out and play Bear baseball,not be spooked out by the dam Shocker.

This is what happens when you fall on your a## during a 'shocker'

[outpost]

Well the FACT, not the SPIN, is that the Bears history pales when set next to WSU's, both in the short and long-term. But since you want to go back in history, The Shockers are the most recent Valley team to WIN the world series not just DREAM about it.

Bearhair, Thanks for the proofreading opportunity.
I think your little mini-thesis has been fixed now.:original: :original:

[shocker3]

Does anybody know how many pitches the MSU pitcher did actually throw on Sunday?

It did seem like a lot.:valley: :shockers:

[MikeKennedyRulz]

It was reported on Shockernet to be 113 without 2 out foul balls. So probably in the 120+ range in 6 innings of work.

[shocker3]

Is MSU short on relief pitchers? They sure seemed to leave their starters in a lot time.

[outpost]

Is MSU short on relief pitchers? They sure seemed to leave their starters in a lot time.

Who was the guy who came in with the bases empty and threw two pitches - two pitches - in the 4th inning on Saturday, and he already had a run put up against him?

Matt Brown hits a triple off of him in the first pitch......and then he walks home after the next pitch goes flying past the MSU catcher......

They used up all of their good relievers on Friday night, as Guttin was trying to set the tone and get that first game.

[bearhair]

Outpost, tisk, tisk.....not only did you plagiarize my post, but then distorted it for your evil purposes.

The level of joy the shocker fans exibited in sweeping one home series with the Bears, after loosing the prior two weekends, was euphoric. You would have thought it was a world series. Sadly, it was not. However this year it will have to surffice since the shockers won't come close to Omaha. Perhaps we can chip in and get your team in at Williamsport, PA.

[JJClamdip]

The level of joy the shocker fans exibited in sweeping one home series with the Bears

Do not flatter yourself, it could have been any team it just happened to be the Bares.

The euphoria shown by the Shocker fans is because the season might have turned back on a positive note with the wins, beating the Bares has become old hat and is just another win.

Actually beating the Bares now is just about on the same level as a win over Friends or Emporia State maybe a little above but not much.

[iSASO]

I think NAIA Friends or D-II Emporia has a shorter losing streak.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Yeah, beating the Bares is like winning the world series. HAHAHAHAHA good one. I thought I had heard it all out of Springpatch but that takes the cake. One CWS APPEARANCE and a barely .500 record and no postseason appearances since then and they are the measuring stick in the valley. I better get my shovel, because the poop being heaped on by Bare fans is getting deep.

[outpost]

Bearhair, take a look at the Valley standings and this weekend's schedule.

There's a good chance that the Shockers could be back in first place by the end of this weekend. I've not only done the math, but I'll lay it out here for you and all to see - in plain English.

BTW, speaking of English.....plagiarism is SUCH an ugly word.....was it part of your English 102 term paper? Wow, instructors will let students write about aaaanything these days.......

You should direct your tsk'ing towards them.......or that guy who allegedly stole the idea for The Da Vinci Code.

Finally, thanks for the motivational words about Omaha. I'll be sure to pass them along to Gene so that he can post them in the dugout.

[bearhair]

There's a good chance that the Shockers could be back in first place by the end of this weekend. I've not only done the math, but I'll lay it out here for you and all to see - in plain English, not normally spoken in Wichita trailer parks

BTW, speaking of English.....plagiarism is SUCH an ugly word.....was it part of your English 102 term paper? Wow, instructors will let students write about aaaanything these days.......if only ogu students could just write

You should direct your tsk'ing towards them.......or that guy who allegedly, already found not guilty, stole the idea for The Da Vinci Code

Finally, thanks for the motivational words about Omaha. I'll be sure to pass them along to Gene so that he can post them in the dugout...hopefully they'll be able to read them.

[outpost]

That's the spirit, B-H.......if ya can't beat us, join us.....when I say us, I mean us posters.....

You see???? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY.....on this board has ever overtly objected to another poster borrowing their material. Why start? I'm proud of you.....you've made lots of progress in one day!

I'll leave your stereotypical attack on Wichita trailer parks alone....it's so trite and passe.......but I do admire your pitiful attempt to attack the intelligence of the WSU ballplayers. Maybe one of my fellow Shocker fans on here will find and post the WSU team GPA for you, since you're so curious.

I'm sure they'll be able to read those words you alluded to. But the only thing that they'll be reading from the very recent past is the following:

7-5, 16-5, 8-7

Good day!!:original: :original: :original: :original:

[Nyghtewynd]

There isn't one OGU fan that could post the team's GPA. They get to that period in the middle of the number and think it's the end of the sentence.

[shocker3]

What are you talking about? :noexpression: