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CUJay
04-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Basketball's Funk Cleared To Play In '06-07

OMAHA, Neb. -- Creighton basketball guard Nate Funk, the 2004-05 runner-up for Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year, will return to the floor in 2006-07 with the Bluejays. Earlier this week the MVC office granted Funk a medical hardship waiver for his injury-shortened 2005-06 season. He will have one year of eligibility remaining.

A Sioux City, Iowa, native, Funk averaged 17.0 points and 4.7 rebounds while playing in just six games in 2005-06. He earned third-team preseason All-America accolades from Street & Smith's magazine and was also a preseason all-Missouri Valley Conference choice. Funk's campaign was cut short after six games when he underwent season-ending shoulder surgery on January 5, 2006. Since his surgery, Funk has continued his rehabilitation from injury and is expected to be fully cleared by doctors next month.

In 2004-05, Funk was named first-team all-MVC after leading Creighton to a 23-11 record and the NCAA Tournament. He paced the team in scoring (17.8) and rebounding (5.1) and was also named first-team all-District by the USBWA. As a sophomore in 2003-04, he led the team in scoring (11.1) and assists (2.7) per game.

Creighton finished last season 20-10 while averaging an MVC-record 13,901 fans per game. The Jays reached the postseason for a ninth consecutive season while extending their league-record mark of 20-win seasons to eight. In addition to Funk, CU will also return starters Anthony Tolliver, Nick Porter, Dane Watts and Josh Dotzler to the floor next season.

DoubleJayAlum
04-21-2006, 02:38 PM
This was expected news, but very welcome nonetheless.

Good news for the Jays. As far as national media attention goes, this is also very good for the MVC.

:jays: :valley:

txsaluki05
04-21-2006, 02:45 PM
Glad to see it's official. Creighton is gonna be tough as hell next season.

outpost
04-21-2006, 02:56 PM
Good for Funk and the Jays.

Helps set the bar higher for the league.

DawgieStyle
04-21-2006, 04:41 PM
yah maybe this year they'll actually make a "real" post season tournament.

DoubleJayAlum
04-21-2006, 04:50 PM
yah maybe this year they'll actually make a "real" post season tournament.

Axel rose, do you really think you're fooling anybody? We know DawgieStyle is you. Just look at the date you joined. Also, your posts have the same run-on style, spelling problems and grammatical errors. Just use the "gnfnr" name - you're not fooling anybody....

DawgieStyle
04-21-2006, 04:51 PM
who's axel rose?

cuhoops
04-21-2006, 04:59 PM
yah maybe this year they'll actually make a "real" post season tournament.

and maybe SIU won't lose to a D2 team. Jays had the injury bug, simple as that.

DawgieStyle
04-21-2006, 05:00 PM
I totally agree, CU did get bit by the injury bug big time. It's nothing they could have done about it. Just having a little fun at the expense of CU, sorry.

DawgieStyle
04-21-2006, 05:03 PM
I actually agree with the thread. I think that CU will be one of the few top tier Valley teams next year that will improve on last season. SIU will be the other. Outside of the top tier, I really see Evansville improving.

C0|db|00ded
04-21-2006, 05:36 PM
When CU comes to town, and on Funkie's first shoulder-dipping play, we need to send that young man straight on his ***** to welcome him back to the league. Hopefully we have enough big boys next year to do it. I see Ugly Funkie as possibly easily intimidated and rusty for a while next year...


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CUJay
04-21-2006, 05:59 PM
When CU comes to town, and on Funkie's first shoulder-dipping play, we need to send that young man straight on his ***** to welcome him back to the league. Hopefully we have enough big boys next year to do it. I see Ugly Funkie as possibly easily intimidated and rusty for a while next year...


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Yep, Funk was awfully intimidated last time he played in Wichita. He scored 35 points, including 21 in the final 12 minutes. In fact, CU shot over 84% in the second half of that game (and even got the offensive rebound on the only 3 misses of the half). Sure must have been loud at the Chuck that night.......

cuhoops
04-21-2006, 07:51 PM
When CU comes to town, and on Funkie's first shoulder-dipping play, we need to send that young man straight on his ***** to welcome him back to the league. Hopefully we have enough big boys next year to do it. I see Ugly Funkie as possibly easily intimidated and rusty for a while next year...


T


...:cool:

Please, please, take Funk lightly... he won't be anything next year? LOL!




:jays: :jays:



It's a great day to have your All-American returning, isn't it clod?

Ricky Del Rio
04-21-2006, 09:10 PM
yah maybe this year they'll actually make a "real" post season tournament.

Your own house is burning down, so I don't imagine you should be taking any one else's inventory.

WuDrWu
04-22-2006, 11:15 AM
Yep, Funk was awfully intimidated last time he played in Wichita. He scored 35 points, including 21 in the final 12 minutes. In fact, CU shot over 84% in the second half of that game (and even got the offensive rebound on the only 3 misses of the half). Sure must have been loud at the Chuck that night.......


You're right, it wasn't near as loud as the night Matt B daggered the Jays and sinched the 3rd season in a row WSU would finish ahead of CU, or the night the Shox won the Valley title by 2 games, or when they went to the Sweet 16.......

C0|db|00ded
04-22-2006, 12:31 PM
Yep, Funk was awfully intimidated last time he played in Wichita. He scored 35 points, including 21 in the final 12 minutes. In fact, CU shot over 84% in the second half of that game (and even got the offensive rebound on the only 3 misses of the half). Sure must have been loud at the Chuck that night.......

I'm sorry, I'm not referring to 2 year ago Funk, I'm referring to last year's Funk, the same Funk that helped his team through a 2 or 3 game losing streak during his "I'm just playing to see if my shoulder is alright because I've got a few games to give before I lose my medical red-shirt qualification". I'm personally looking forward to seeing that young man continue his "winning ways". We should have a few shot-blockers next year to help "aid" his recovery.


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torear
04-24-2006, 10:50 AM
If that's the game you want to play, Creighton has enough big men on the bench to "make sure" the Shockers don't "get any ideas" on defense.

underdawg2
04-24-2006, 12:45 PM
S'good to see that Jay-Shocker love still shining bright 7 months from tip-off:lol:

Hooloovoo
04-24-2006, 03:32 PM
If this escalation continues at the rate it is going, we are going to see molotov cocktails being thrown at each other two weeks before the season starts.

http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/FlamingMax.gif

Shox21
04-24-2006, 05:02 PM
If this escalation continues at the rate it is going, we are going to see molotov cocktails being thrown at each other two weeks before the season starts.

http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/FlamingMax.gif

You really give it THAT long?

Jayball
04-24-2006, 05:20 PM
I went home to visit my folks in Wichita, and set flamming bags of poop in front of Koch Arena.

I'm pretty sure the Shockers know what's up now.

Clod is just trying to compensate for his steroid shrivled gonads. All the weightlifting, gives him the fantasy that he could be the goon enforcer for the Shockers. You'd think the MVC title, NCAAs, and Sweet 16 would have mellowed him a little. But I guess if he feels his team can't beat Funk and CU without gorilla tactics, that's his inferiority complex to battle.

Good luck Clod! I'm sure Turgeon and the boys appreciate your confidence.

Hooloovoo
04-24-2006, 09:54 PM
You really give it THAT long?

I'm being generous.

MSNSaluki
04-24-2006, 10:24 PM
I'm being generous.

I'd say.
There's no off-season on this board.

C0|db|00ded
04-24-2006, 10:40 PM
If that's the game you want to play, Creighton has enough big men on the bench to "make sure" the Shockers don't "get any ideas" on defense.

My guess is that Mr. J.T. Durley will be our unofficial enforcer with Arbry Butler handling the "cleaning" duties above the rim!! :innocent:

It's a mighty great day to be a Shocker!


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stormpanther5012
04-25-2006, 03:23 PM
I hope Nate takes over as the scourge of the shockers next season, as his fellow Sioux City alum, Benny J was for the last two years. When it comes to CU vs WSU, Go Jays man.

Nate is a great kid ColdBlooded and will likely keep dropping about 18ppg, and hopefully about 40 on the Shockers.

Just my thoughts as a fellow sioux citian.

C0|db|00ded
04-25-2006, 03:44 PM
I hope Nate takes over as the scourge of the shockers next season, as his fellow Sioux City alum, Benny J was for the last two years. When it comes to CU vs WSU, Go Jays man.

Nate is a great kid ColdBlooded and will likely keep dropping about 18ppg, and hopefully about 40 on the Shockers.

Just my thoughts as a fellow sioux citian.

Like the "great" MT once said, (Insert name here) can have his 18 or 40 points per game as long as he takes 30 or 65 shots to do it!

What a great day to have a 6'10" (and growing) athletic, shot-blocking stud coming to WSU!


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cufan
04-25-2006, 04:05 PM
What a great day to have a 6'10" (and growing) athletic, shot-blocking stud coming to WSU!


Hey Clod, will your guy be watching the CU games from the same vantage point as his MoValley "MVP" predecessor?

Two game totals: A Train - 66 min. 10 bds 33 pts 7 fouls
"MVP" Miller - 42 min. 6 bds 11 pts 9 fouls


There will be so many Jays coming at your lad from so many different angles, he's likely to curl up into fetal position and cry for his momma.

2006-07 is a great season to have the two best players in the Valley on your team!

outpost
04-25-2006, 04:24 PM
There will be so many Jays coming at your lad from so many different angles, he's likely to curl up into fetal position and cry for his momma.

What....you guys have put in a play to charge the court from the bench? I wouldn't put it past Dana. He's usually the sixth man standing out of the box and halfway on the court anyway.

I still admire the way he hung his head after Braeuer's dagger.

cuhoops
04-25-2006, 04:27 PM
What....you guys have put in a play to charge the court from the bench? I wouldn't put it past Dana. He's usually the sixth man standing out of the box and halfway on the court anyway.

I still admire the way he hung his head after Braeuer's dagger.


yeah... how about Turg basically storming the court against Vandy in the NIT resulting in a T. Didn't you lose by 1 in that game too? "Where's my D?"



:lol:

Jayball
04-25-2006, 04:36 PM
Clod

Last year Nate averaged over 17 points on 13 attempts.

in 2004-2005 Nate averaged over 17 points on 12.3 attempts.

I don't think he's all of a sudden going to start jacking 30+ shots a game.

But if you and Turg want to bank on that be my guest.


PS Nate got 35 on only 14 attempts in Wichita 2/16/05.

MSNSaluki
04-25-2006, 04:38 PM
you guys are making my day ... keep it up!

outpost
04-25-2006, 04:40 PM
yeah... how about Turg basically storming the court against Vandy in the NIT resulting in a T. Didn't you lose by 1 in that game too? "Where's my D?"

I thought this was a CU-WSU rivalry. You're welcome to bring in Vandy if you like, but then I'd have to remind you of how West Virginia did pretty much the same thing to CU. Tit for tat, my friend.

And check your "facts"......We lost by two.

MikeKennedyRulz
04-25-2006, 04:44 PM
Hey Clod, will your guy be watching the CU games from the same vantage point as his MoValley "MVP" predecessor?

Two game totals: A Train - 66 min. 10 bds 33 pts 7 fouls
"MVP" Miller - 42 min. 6 bds 11 pts 9 fouls


There will be so many Jays coming at your lad from so many different angles, he's likely to curl up into fetal position and cry for his momma.

2006-07 is a great season to have the two best players in the Valley on your team!

Shox:

Valley Title by 2 full games
NCAA #7 Seed
Sweet 16
#21 in postseason poll

BJ's:

4th place MVC finish
Lost in Quarters of MVC tourney
Official Sponsor of the NIT

You can have Tolliver's performances and I'll take WSU's "team" season and finish.


:shockers: :shockers:

Dawgbit
04-25-2006, 05:19 PM
God, it is great to see a MVC team other than the Salukis become the focus of the insecure WSU fans.:no:
:salukis: :jays:

Jayball
04-25-2006, 05:31 PM
MKR

No question WSU season was better. But Clod's contention was that your newbie frosh post and some guy name Durley are going to be the enforcers and hammer Funk upon his return next season.

If you're Valley POY center last year couldn't hang with AT what makes you two true Freshmen will come in and rule the paint?

PS you're not the only team with an athletic big man coming in. Kenny Lawson avergaed around 8 blocks a game in San Diego. He is only 6'9" though. Should be fun to watch him and Arby battle for the next four years.

DoubleJayAlum
04-25-2006, 05:43 PM
Shox:

Valley Title by 2 full games
NCAA #7 Seed
Sweet 16
#21 in postseason poll

BJ's:

4th place MVC finish
Lost in Quarters of MVC tourney
Official Sponsor of the NIT

You can have Tolliver's performances and I'll take WSU's "team" season and finish.

The most important detail - Tolliver will be back in the fall.

:jays:

MikeKennedyRulz
04-25-2006, 05:54 PM
MKR

No question WSU season was better. But Clod's contention was that your newbie frosh post and some guy name Durley are going to be the enforcers and hammer Funk upon his return next season.

If you're Valley POY center last year couldn't hang with AT what makes you two true Freshmen will come in and rule the paint?

PS you're not the only team with an athletic big man coming in. Kenny Lawson avergaed around 8 blocks a game in San Diego. He is only 6'9" though. Should be fun to watch him and Arby battle for the next four years.

Many Shocker fans think Durley, at 6'8" and 135 will play some at the 5 next season while Chris Brown 6'7" will be more of a Kyle WIlson 4 type. As for Butler, he is by far the Shocker recruit with the most upside, however, I could see him redshirting next year to put on some weight. Also, he is listed at 6'9" and has two Uncles who are 7', so the hope is that he is not finished growing. It should be a great year next season and the MVC is all the better for having Funk back.

C0|db|00ded
04-25-2006, 06:07 PM
Many Shocker fans think Durley, at 6'8" and 135 will play some at the 5 next season while Chris Brown 6'7" will be more of a Kyle WIlson 4 type. As for Butler, he is by far the Shocker recruit with the most upside, however, I could see him redshirting next year to put on some weight. Also, he is listed at 6'9" and has two Uncles who are 7', so the hope is that he is not finished growing. It should be a great year next season and the MVC is all the better for having Funk back.

Many Shocker fans think Durley, at 6'8" and 135

lol


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brokeback shocker
04-25-2006, 07:06 PM
yeah... how about Turg basically storming the court against Vandy in the NIT resulting in a T. Didn't you lose by 1 in that game too? "Where's my D?"



:lol:

just like Altman getting outcoached in the last-second heartbreaker against West Virginia last year.

CU fans: please tell me how many NCAA games has Altman won? How far has CU advanced during his tenure? How many outright MVC championships has the mighty CU won?

WuDrWu
04-25-2006, 07:21 PM
The most important detail - Tolliver will be back in the fall.

:jays:


Actually, the most important fact: You aren't the Champs.


:shockers:

cuhoops
04-25-2006, 11:00 PM
just like Altman getting outcoached in the last-second heartbreaker against West Virginia last year.

CU fans: please tell me how many NCAA games has Altman won? How far has CU advanced during his tenure? How many outright MVC championships has the mighty CU won?

And what is mighty Turg's record against Altman? When was the last time WSU won in Omaha? Man this board is going to be fun when the real season starts... can't wait.

WheatShock'd
04-26-2006, 12:39 AM
And what is mighty Turg's record against Altman? When was the last time WSU won in Omaha? Man this board is going to be fun when the real season starts... can't wait.

If Turg was coaching CU last year, they barely go .500. Sorry, Altman is the best coach in the Valley, probably one of the best in the country. He gets more out of his players than any coach I have seen in a long time. Turg is an up-and-comer and has a lot more to prove...Beating CU on a consistent basis would be a good start.

CU next year looks down right scary, on paper. If they stay healthy, I believe they have a shot to be next year's George Mason.

At this point here is my top 5:

CU
SIU
UNI
WSU
MSU
(ISU might be a sleeper)

underdawg2
04-26-2006, 07:58 AM
At this point here is my top 5:

CU
SIU
UNI
WSU
MSU
(ISU might be a sleeper)[/QUOTE]

Deja Vu all over again
:original:

Tasmanian Devil
04-26-2006, 07:58 AM
Ahhhh, good to see Mr. Clueless is back.

outpost
04-26-2006, 08:04 AM
When was the last time WSU won in Omaha?

Not sure at the moment.......but I'm wondering when the last time that Miami (Fla) won in Homer-ha.

Oh, never mind......it was 2006.

Another proud Dana moment. He gets mad when he doesn't get his way.

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being lowest on the anger scale) Dana was an 11 that night.
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing:

Jayball
04-26-2006, 08:30 AM
Dana wasn't the only one that mad.

DoubleJayAlum
04-26-2006, 09:04 AM
Durley, at 6'8" and 135

I didn't know that Shawn Bradley had any children. Can you even see this guy when he turns sideways?

outpost
04-26-2006, 09:10 AM
JT Durley will be doubling as the flagpole on the 10th hole of a local golf course this summer. At least until he finds that extra 100 lbs.

Hooloovoo
04-26-2006, 09:50 AM
JT Durley will be doubling as the flagpole on the 10th hole of a local golf course this summer. At least until he finds that extra 100 lbs.

Now, will that be counted as legal employment or will he have Bradley-esq issues with that?

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. :clap:

C0|db|00ded
04-26-2006, 02:08 PM
Ahhhh, good to see Mr. Clueless is back.

That's Vice-President Clueless to you! .. And you "know where you can find him"!!!11111shifty :fear: :fear: :fear:

What a complete 'tard!


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C0|db|00ded
04-26-2006, 02:10 PM
P.S.

In case nobody caught it, the comment on J.T. was a typo. He is around 6'8"-6'9" and about 250lbs. He was a football prospect and was very underrecruited because of it. J.T. will be a helluva presence for us.


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MikeKennedyRulz
04-26-2006, 02:16 PM
P.S.

In case nobody caught it, the comment on J.T. was a typo. He is around 6'8"-6'9" and about 250lbs. He was a football prospect and was very underrecruited because of it. J.T. will be a helluva presence for us.


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Actually, everything I have seen has Durley at 6'7" and 235 lbs. Just a little truth in reporting so we don't have another godShawgod issue. :doh: He did play tight end for his football team.

outpost
04-26-2006, 02:31 PM
Now, will that be counted as legal employment or will he have Bradley-esq issues with that?

Who in the hell said anything about employment?? It's just a hobby of his.

When he grows up real big, tall and strong, JT's gonna be the flagpole beyond the right field fence at Eck.

LincolnJay
04-26-2006, 02:37 PM
I find it hilarious that some WSU'ers say Butler is 6'10 and growing but you can find nothing on the net listing him any more than 6'8 {and skinny}.

Also, Durley, listed at 6'7 and 235 {good size!} in stories is now 6'9 and 250 per Clitbold.

Also hilarious is that none of WSU's recruits have been rated in any way at any recruiting sites except for Butler {and he is said to have had a disappointing senior year} yet some WSU posters are acting like they have a roster full of the second coming of Christ. Not saying they don't but there is nothing out there that would indicate that this is anything but a middle of the MVC recruiting class.

SubGod22
04-26-2006, 02:45 PM
Butler played on a REALLY crappy HS team. Chris Brown was Gatorade POY. I've seen articles out of Arkansas listing Butler at 6-9 and growing. And yes, he is skinny. And that's why it's believed and even been brought up by Butler and his parents that he may redshirt to try and bulk up some.

outpost
04-26-2006, 03:00 PM
Also, Durley, listed at 6'7 and 235 {good size!} in stories is now 6'9 and 250 per Clitbold

Where do you get that mag, LJay?

Can't imagine that ANY of WSU's players would be rated in this particular publication.

MikeKennedyRulz
04-26-2006, 03:22 PM
I find it hilarious that some WSU'ers say Butler is 6'10 and growing but you can find nothing on the net listing him any more than 6'8 {and skinny}.

Also, Durley, listed at 6'7 and 235 {good size!} in stories is now 6'9 and 250 per Clitbold.

Also hilarious is that none of WSU's recruits have been rated in any way at any recruiting sites except for Butler {and he is said to have had a disappointing senior year} yet some WSU posters are acting like they have a roster full of the second coming of Christ. Not saying they don't but there is nothing out there that would indicate that this is anything but a middle of the MVC recruiting class.

I really could care less about their rating. I am more concerned with the reports on their abilities and what they bring to the table as far as basketball goes. I think the WSU signees fit the needs of this team very nicely. A shot blocker and defensively minded big man (Butler), a big bodied post player (Durley), and a PF that can step out and shoot the ball (Brown). The only thing that is not being met at this time is the need for a pg. If Uzoh signs I am not sure he is the true pg I would like to see, but he would be a great fit with this team.

cufan
04-26-2006, 04:02 PM
just like Altman getting outcoached in the last-second heartbreaker against West Virginia last year.


Actually, Altman completely outcoached ol' whatshisface last year, game planning to take out their best talent and very nearly beat a more talented and much more highly rated team. The guys just couldn't quite execute down the stretch. And I don't recall any T's on him.

LincolnJay
04-26-2006, 04:05 PM
I really could care less about their rating. I am more concerned with the reports on their abilities and what they bring to the table as far as basketball goes. I think the WSU signees fit the needs of this team very nicely. A shot blocker and defensively minded big man (Butler), a big bodied post player (Durley), and a PF that can step out and shoot the ball (Brown). The only thing that is not being met at this time is the need for a pg. If Uzoh signs I am not sure he is the true pg I would like to see, but he would be a great fit with this team.

100% agree with this assessment but all we can do at this time of year is go by the ratings because everything else is even more arbitrary! On that score, Illinois State and Creighton have the players with "more stars" and "higer in the juco ratings" etc etc etc.

PS - UNI's fans are drooling over their class too but they are in the same boat as WSU's class IMO. Koch was 2nd team all state, Eglseder was a foot taller than most guys he played against and played in the smallest school classification, etc etc etc.

MSNSaluki
04-26-2006, 06:52 PM
talk about recruits should be banned until they actually play in college.

Angrybluejaydan
04-26-2006, 07:08 PM
Not sure at the moment.......but I'm wondering when the last time that Miami (Fla) won in Homer-ha.

Oh, never mind......it was 2006.

Another proud Dana moment. He gets mad when he doesn't get his way.

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being lowest on the anger scale) Dana was an 11 that night.
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing: :cursing::cursing: :cursing:

Sometimes, you gotta get angry.

:jays:

WheatShock'd
04-26-2006, 07:14 PM
Yes, I guess I am clueless because I think Altman is a better coach than Turg. I guess you rocket-scientists would actually try and dispute THAT one. Way to keep up the homeristic ignorance....:no:

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 07:45 AM
Yes, I guess I am clueless because I think Altman is a better coach than Turg. I guess you rocket-scientists would actually try and dispute THAT one. Way to keep up the homeristic ignorance....:no:

Nah, we don't need to dispute it. The voters for MVC coach of the year already settled this argument. :clap: Turg :clap: Turg :clap: Turg



:shockers:

outpost
04-27-2006, 08:04 AM
Sometimes, you gotta get angry.

Some people just cry when they don't get their way.......

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/cwnevius/2006/03/26/morrison-400.jpg

C0|db|00ded
04-27-2006, 12:41 PM
Nah, we don't need to dispute it. The voters for MVC coach of the year already settled this argument. :clap: Turg :clap: Turg :clap: Turg



:shockers:

Ouch! That had to hurt... :banana:


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DawgieStyle
04-27-2006, 01:55 PM
just because a coach wins the coach of a year honor, doesn't make him a better coach than some one else. It means he had a better singular year, that's all. Turgeon maybe a good coach, but any rational person knows Altman is better all around coach year in and year out. When Weber won national coach of the year honors, did anyone really go: "man, that weber, he's the best coach in college basketball?" He was the best coach for that year alone, that's it, one year. Anyone with a brain could still you that year that Coach K, Roy Willians, and Bob Knight are still the best all around coaches in the game, award or no awards.

valleyclimber
04-27-2006, 02:39 PM
I always like when the national b-ball broadcasters give the Valley alot of respect because of the exceptional coaches. Man, the MVC is loaded with good coaches. You have Altman, Turg, Dr. Tom (sure it's been tough lately) and young rising coaches Les, CLo and Porter Moser plus there's Merfeld, Hinson (although some MSU fans may disagree) and Royce Waltman (it's a tough go at Indiana State). WOW! It's a wealth of coaching, and they Valley IS one of the top conferences because of our coaches.

As a fan, you know that whichever MVC team you're team is playing, that the team's coach is going to have his team prepared and ready to take you down. It's usually a war every night in the Valley! :original: :valley:

C0|db|00ded
04-27-2006, 02:40 PM
just because a coach wins the coach of a year honor, doesn't make him a better coach than some one else. It means he had a better singular year, that's all. Turgeon maybe a good coach, but any rational person knows Altman is better all around coach year in and year out. When Weber won national coach of the year honors, did anyone really go: "man, that weber, he's the best coach in college basketball?" He was the best coach for that year alone, that's it, one year. Anyone with a brain could still you that year that Coach K, Roy Willians, and Bob Knight are still the best all around coaches in the game, award or no awards.

Coach Turgeon is one of the best coaches/recruiters in the Valley... -Case Closed!

Whatever experience gap that Altman has/had over MT is narrowing rapidly. The fact is, MT's team plays the same teams that DA's team plays and we are finishing ahead of them in the Valley race routinely. I could care less if MT's record is 0-19 against DA as long as we finish ahead of them every year. The fact that MT has been beating DA for the last THREE years in the Valley race yet has been losing to DA is because the kids over at Creighton really "get up" to play the Class of the Valley. Everybody knows that when you come to Koch it's like going to the "big time". And then when we go back to Omaha-hattan, they are all geeked up to play us because we are usually leading them in the Valley race. Now that we are a recent Sweet Sixteen team it will be even worse. Classic case of David vs. Goliath. Beating Wichita State absolutely makes Creighton's year!

Dana on the sideline at Koch Arena ---> :banana: (not last year though) :no:

It's a great decade to be a Shocker!


T


...:cool:

SiuCubFan8
04-27-2006, 02:42 PM
just because a coach wins the coach of a year honor, doesn't make him a better coach than some one else. It means he had a better singular year, that's all. Turgeon maybe a good coach, but any rational person knows Altman is better all around coach year in and year out. When Weber won national coach of the year honors, did anyone really go: "man, that weber, he's the best coach in college basketball?" He was the best coach for that year alone, that's it, one year. Anyone with a brain could still you that year that Coach K, Roy Willians, and Bob Knight are still the best all around coaches in the game, award or no awards.

Barry is the best coach in the nation, Hands Down!:helpsmilie:

DawgieStyle
04-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Yes, WSU finished ahaed of CU last year, but that doesn't mean turg, is a better coach than Altman. Don't get me wrong, turgeon's good, I'll give you that. But What Altman was able to do last year with as many injuries as Creighton had just solidifies for me how great Altman is. I dislike both CU and WSU, but respect that they have good coaches. But in my book, Altman is a better coach, especially with what he was able to do with that injury riddles team last year. Amount of wins doesn't always equal best coach, its what you were able to do with you've been dealt. Altman has always done that better than any other coach in the valley.

SiuCubFan8
04-27-2006, 03:02 PM
Mine is better than yours!
mine is better than yours!
mine is better than yours!
mine is better than yours!
:banghead:

They are both good. What is truly the point of arguing about two good coaches. They both have there stregths and there weaknesess.

DawgieStyle
04-27-2006, 03:11 PM
I'm not even arguing about "mine" that would be C-LO for us SIU fans, I'm arguing out of principle....muccccchhh different.

BornShocker
04-27-2006, 03:13 PM
I apologize if this has already been made public, but Dawgiestyle has to be gnfr...This guy is relentless. If so, why change your name if your not going to change your method of discussion?

DawgieStyle
04-27-2006, 03:15 PM
This board seems obsessed with wigh guns and roses. First an Axel Rose reference the other day, now another gnr referece. What's the deal? Did I miss something about them being the official band of the MVC?

stormpanther5012
04-27-2006, 03:17 PM
There is no better coach in the valley than Dana Altman. I loved Mac and Coach Jake will be good as well, and MT and J Les both proved to be formidable, but they each had pretty tremendously talented squads, CU had injuries nearly all season and still made a run late in the season. Barry also did a nice job this year, but year in and year out the most consistant coach in the MVC is Dana, which hurts to say, because well the Bluejays are UNI's kryptonite, but not acknowledging Dana's coaching prowess in the MVC is really pretty ignorant, but I guess thats been said again and again, and the ignorant people still arent listening. Ohh well.

SiuCubFan8
04-27-2006, 03:20 PM
I'm not even arguing about "mine" that would be C-LO for us SIU fans, I'm arguing out of principle....muccccchhh different.

You got the point.
Give it up, they are both good!


A.K.A. gnfr:Jumpy:

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 03:32 PM
Yes, WSU finished ahaed of CU last year, but that doesn't mean turg, is a better coach than Altman. Don't get me wrong, turgeon's good, I'll give you that. But What Altman was able to do last year with as many injuries as Creighton had just solidifies for me how great Altman is. I dislike both CU and WSU, but respect that they have good coaches. But in my book, Altman is a better coach, especially with what he was able to do with that injury riddles team last year. Amount of wins doesn't always equal best coach, its what you were able to do with you've been dealt. Altman has always done that better than any other coach in the valley.

The difference between Altman and Turg?

One has been to the sweet sixteen and one hasn't. :banana: :clap: :banana: :clap:

Mike
04-27-2006, 03:36 PM
Cold is either delusional or on drugs! Making an analogy between Creighton-Wichita State and David-Goliath! Unbelievable

Wichita State was the 2006 MVC regular season champ and a Sweet 16 team
Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility
Creighton has a better coach
Creighton has better tradition
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city
Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

If one of these teams is really to be compared to Goliath, which neither really should, it sure wouldn't be WSU.

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 03:38 PM
Cold is either delusional or on drugs! Making an analogy between Creighton-Wichita State and David-Goliath! Unbelievable

Wichita State was the 2006 MVC regular season champ and a Sweet 16 team
Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility
Creighton has a better coach
Creighton has better tradition
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city
Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

If one of these teams is really to be compared to Goliath, which neither really should, it sure wouldn't be WSU.

And now I bring you...The Omahaha Minister of Information.

http://www1.wsvn.com/images/news_articles/archive/04012003_Information_Minister_Mohammed_Saeed_al-Sahhaf150.jpg

cuhoops
04-27-2006, 03:52 PM
Cold is either delusional or on drugs! Making an analogy between Creighton-Wichita State and David-Goliath! Unbelievable

Wichita State was the 2006 MVC regular season champ and a Sweet 16 team
Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility
Creighton has a better coach
Creighton has better tradition
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city
Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

If one of these teams is really to be compared to Goliath, which neither really should, it sure wouldn't be WSU.



Don't forget about them being the "Class of the Valley", Mike. Sure, some uniformed fans wonder why Creighton is playing against Wyoming State and why the game is so close... but hey, they've got Charles Koch on their side, right?



:noexpression:

outpost
04-27-2006, 03:56 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/art/w0i.jpg <--------The most feared coach in the world

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 04:05 PM
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city

I guess if having your kids attend segregated schools and being continually harassed if you are latino is exciting, then yeah, O-Town is a happenin' place these days. :ermm:

Jayball
04-27-2006, 04:21 PM
Obviously we have few posters not familiar with Clod. It is painful to read.

Can I summarize the responses.

CU doesn't own the Qwiet Center.
WSU tradition included elite eights and sweet sixteens from 1950 (and other years)
WSU went to the Sweet 16 last year.
CU coach hasn't been to the Sweet 16.
I'm sure there is something about academics I'm forgeting

But for the love of God, can we skip the city debate again. I don't need people quoting the census data and listing trillionaire per captia stats again.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Mike the city a team resides in has nothing to do with the quality of the team or basketball program.

DawgieStyle
04-27-2006, 04:24 PM
you mean you don't want to hear about Chucky Koch and John "the Q Hammy" Hammons again? Ah, why not. :lol:

C0|db|00ded
04-27-2006, 04:47 PM
Cold is either delusional or on drugs! Making an analogy between Creighton-Wichita State and David-Goliath! Unbelievable

Wichita State was the 2006 MVC regular season champ and a Sweet 16 team
Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility
Creighton has a better coach
Creighton has better tradition
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city
Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

If one of these teams is really to be compared to Goliath, which neither really should, it sure wouldn't be WSU.

Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility

Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus have a better basketball facility than us as well considering they are also tenants of Mutual of Omaha's Wild Municipal Center! (Don't go there bro) :lol:

Creighton has a better coach

Trivia question for ya (and no, you don't get any lifelines):

When was the last time that godAltman finished ahead of hackTurgeon in the regular season?

Creighton has better tradition

Considering the Valley was founded in 1990, you may just be right!!111 :doh:

Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city


ROFFLES!! :lol:

Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

Ouchie! When did me calling you David have anything to do with your academic prowess? Also, could you be more specific in the academic comparisons between CU and WSU. You certainly don't want to compare engineering or business programs... And as far as our medical programs.. they are doing great! KU stole them from us in the early 80's but they are still doing great! :cursing:


T


...:cool:

WheatShock'd
04-27-2006, 05:29 PM
Cold is either delusional or on drugs! Making an analogy between Creighton-Wichita State and David-Goliath! Unbelievable

Wichita State was the 2006 MVC regular season champ and a Sweet 16 team
Creighton has a bigger and better basketball facility
Creighton has a better coach
Creighton has better tradition
Creighton is located in a bigger and more exciting city
Creighton's academic reputation puts WSU's to shame

If one of these teams is really to be compared to Goliath, which neither really should, it sure wouldn't be WSU.

I agree with all these points, they are all FACTS. I just think it is pointless to try and prove obvious facts to some of the WSU "fans" on this board. Clod doesn't offer any throughtful insight on anything, he just responds with "ROFL", "Sweet 16", "MVC Champs", or "Turg is the second coming of Christ." A few others just seem to be puppets of this loser and think he is cute and clever, even though (from what I have read) he has no ability to make an intelligent argument (probably because he is wrong all the time).

Real WSU fans know we have to keep winning if we want to be considered with the class of the Valley...SIU, CU, and UNI. Those have been the three dominant teams for several years now. We have had our one year of glory and you would think we owned the Valley for the past 10 years (based on what some morons rant on here). You guys are just insecure because WSU and Wichita aren't the biggest and baddest in the Valley, which is obvious why you have such negative emotions against CU and Omaha.

WheatShock'd
04-27-2006, 05:36 PM
Ouchie! When did me calling you David have anything to do with your academic prowess? Also, could you be more specific in the academic comparisons between CU and WSU. You certainly don't want to compare engineering or business programs... And as far as our medical programs.. they are doing great! KU stole them from us in the early 80's but they are still doing great! :cursing:


T


...:cool:

Don't even go there, Clod. Creighton is the best academic institution in the Valley and Drake is second. WSU is NOT an "academic" school, by most people's standards it is nothing more than a commuter college.

As an engineering grad, I agree with you there, however, Creighton doesn't even an engineering school. If you want to really make yourself look like an idiot, keep trying to compare WSU and CU academically, that will boost your already stellar credibility.

Jayball
04-27-2006, 05:37 PM
ghost posters are lame.

give up the sister act. You're no Whoopi.

Bird
04-27-2006, 06:09 PM
Quote:
Creighton has better tradition

Considering the Valley was founded in 1990, you may just be right!!111

How many NCAA's has WSU been too? How about CU? CU has a very distinct advantage. How about MVC regular season and conference tournament championships? Again, advantage for CU. Tradition of the programs is not even close.

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Don't even go there, Clod. Creighton is the best academic institution in the Valley and Drake is second. WSU is NOT an "academic" school, by most people's standards it is nothing more than a commuter college.

As an engineering grad, I agree with you there, however, Creighton doesn't even an engineering school. If you want to really make yourself look like an idiot, keep trying to compare WSU and CU academically, that will boost your already stellar credibility.

You're an engineering graduate and the Vice President of International Sales and Logistics?

MikeKennedyRulz
04-27-2006, 06:20 PM
How many NCAA's has WSU been too? How about CU? CU has a very distinct advantage. How about MVC regular season and conference tournament championships? Again, advantage for CU. Tradition of the programs is not even close.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

:Jumpy: :Jumpy: :Jumpy: :Jumpy: :Jumpy: :Jumpy:

WheatShock'd
04-27-2006, 07:46 PM
You're an engineering graduate and the Vice President of International Sales and Logistics?

Yes, what is your point? Before my current position I was involved with aerodynamic design of our new VLJ (Very Light Jet) project. Believe it or not, that qualifies me to be in a position of power to sell what I used to DESIGN. Nice attempt to try and discredit me though. :rolleyes:

crazy4creighton
04-27-2006, 08:05 PM
How old are you guys, in your 30s yeah well start acting like it because my 4 yr old brother is more mature than you!!!! :ranting:
I cant believe wichita is comparing there city to omaha? hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahah somebody help those hicks :helpsmilie: dude yeah you fill up your tin of an arena but with what a bunch of hillbillies with wheat sticking out of the side of there mouths. i am embaressed to live in the same state as you ignorant people. dude get over your selves the rest of the country doesnt even know you exist!!!! yeah whatever you went to the sweet 16 but bradley did to and did sooooooooo much better than you beating ku and pitt! you lost to damm george mason might i add that cu beat them by 20 at there house. :jays: yeah that is how good we would have been without the injuries and we will be 4 times that good this yr so watch the hell out because you could barley beat us with atleast 2 of our starters out. just wait till next yr ahhahaa you guys are a joke.:valley: :jays:

CUJay
04-27-2006, 08:12 PM
I guess if having your kids attend segregated schools and being continually harassed if you are latino is exciting, then yeah, O-Town is a happenin' place these days. :ermm:

Segregated schools? Methinks you don't know very much about Omaha's school systems or the recent legislation passed on this issue.

MSNSaluki
04-27-2006, 08:47 PM
this is some of the funniest $hiit ever on this board.
:chair: :chair: :chair:

WheatShock'd
04-27-2006, 08:56 PM
Please don't turn this into a Wichita bashing session. While I agree Omaha has us beat on almost every level (except hail stones and tornadoes), that doesn't mean this is some backwoods, jerkwater either. I like my short drive to work and like the fact that I can drive on roads that are not under constant widening/construction like in Omaha.

Besides, what does this have to do with basketball again? So, Wichita is larger than Topeka, Omaha is larger than Wichita, Kansas City is larger than Omaha, St. Louis is larger than Kansas City, Chicago is larger than St. Louis, and New York is larger than Chicago. What is the point? Some of the Shocker fans on here act like someone insulted their mother just because Omaha is a larger city. Why don't you guys take a break and go take on Tulsa and OKC as well, afterall, they are threats to Wichita because they are larger.

This stinks of insecurity...

torear
04-28-2006, 12:38 AM
Numbers are troublesome things.

MVC Regular Season Championships - Creighton 13 (1929-30, 1930-31, 1931-32, 1934-35, 1935-36, 1940-41, 1941-42, 1942-43, 1977-78, 1988-89, 1990-91, 2000-01, 2001-02), Wichita State 6 (1963-64, 1964-65, 1975-76, 1980-81, 1982-83, 2005-06)
MVC Tournament Championships - Creighton 9 (1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 2 (1985, 1987)

Combined MVC Championships - Creighton 22, Wichita State 8

That's with Creighton being out of the league for much of the 1960s and 70s, including Coach Red and Coach Sutton's best squads.

Also worth noting:

NCAA Tournament Appereances - Creighton 15 (1941, 1962, 1964, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 8 (1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006)

Aargh
04-28-2006, 01:01 AM
Will Funk come back from his injury with the same attitude he had before the injury?

Funk does have a move where he jumps into defenders and hits them with his shoulder to go to the line. Will Funk still have that move or will he be afraid of re-injuring his shoulder?

Will a year off produce some "rust" that Funk has to overcome?

Will Funk affect team chemistry of a team that over-acheived without him?

Will CU's players have too much emphasis on getting the ball into Funk's hands and will Funk have too much pressure to score when the ball is in his hands?

Will CU be the beginning-of-last-season team with Funk back or will they be the team that went 0-2 when Funk returned to see if he was really out for the season?

Will Tolliver play the way he can or will he give up some of his game to try to get Funk more involvement in the games?

There are some legitimate issues that could be discussed in this thread. Unfortunately, the entertainment value would drop off a bit.

MSNSaluki
04-28-2006, 01:24 AM
Numbers are troublesome things.

MVC Regular Season Championships - Creighton 13 (1929-30, 1930-31, 1931-32, 1934-35, 1935-36, 1940-41, 1941-42, 1942-43, 1977-78, 1988-89, 1990-91, 2000-01, 2001-02), Wichita State 6 (1963-64, 1964-65, 1975-76, 1980-81, 1982-83, 2005-06)
MVC Tournament Championships - Creighton 9 (1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 2 (1985, 1987)

Combined MVC Championships - Creighton 22, Wichita State 8

That's with Creighton being out of the league for much of the 1960s and 70s, including Coach Red and Coach Sutton's best squads.

Also worth noting:

NCAA Tournament Appereances - Creighton 15 (1941, 1962, 1964, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 8 (1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006)


numbers, shnumbers.
but does charles koch live in omaha and support creighton athletics?
no.
case closed.:valley:

C0|db|00ded
04-28-2006, 02:17 AM
Please don't turn this into a Wichita bashing session. While I agree Omaha has us beat on almost every level (except hail stones and tornadoes), that doesn't mean this is some backwoods, jerkwater either. I like my short drive to work and like the fact that I can drive on roads that are not under constant widening/construction like in Omaha.

Besides, what does this have to do with basketball again? So, Wichita is larger than Topeka, Omaha is larger than Wichita, Kansas City is larger than Omaha, St. Louis is larger than Kansas City, Chicago is larger than St. Louis, and New York is larger than Chicago. What is the point? Some of the Shocker fans on here act like someone insulted their mother just because Omaha is a larger city. Why don't you guys take a break and go take on Tulsa and OKC as well, afterall, they are threats to Wichita because they are larger.

This stinks of insecurity...

This stinks of insecurity...

No... THIS stinks of insecurity!

You are more than welcome to visit me out at Raytheon at any time. Jerkoff. Just ask for the Vice President of International Sales & Logistics. We can talk about "psyche" all you want

What a mark! If only you were an SIU-C fan.. :doh:


T


...:cool:

C0|db|00ded
04-28-2006, 02:21 AM
Numbers are troublesome things.

MVC Regular Season Championships - Creighton 13 (1929-30, 1930-31, 1931-32, 1934-35, 1935-36, 1940-41, 1941-42, 1942-43, 1977-78, 1988-89, 1990-91, 2000-01, 2001-02), Wichita State 6 (1963-64, 1964-65, 1975-76, 1980-81, 1982-83, 2005-06)
MVC Tournament Championships - Creighton 9 (1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 2 (1985, 1987)

Combined MVC Championships - Creighton 22, Wichita State 8

That's with Creighton being out of the league for much of the 1960s and 70s, including Coach Red and Coach Sutton's best squads.

Also worth noting:

NCAA Tournament Appereances - Creighton 15 (1941, 1962, 1964, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1981, 1989, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005), Wichita State 8 (1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006)

I think Creighton currently holds the record for post-season futility as well. WSU may have fewer NCAA appearances but when we dance we make some noise.. 4, 8, 16

It's a great day to be a Shocker!


T


...:cool:

Aargh
04-28-2006, 03:01 AM
Cold, go see your psychiatrist. Tell him the meds aren't working.

Shox21
04-28-2006, 08:59 AM
I agree with all these points, they are all FACTS. I just think it is pointless to try and prove obvious facts to some of the WSU "fans" on this board. Clod doesn't offer any throughtful insight on anything, he just responds with "ROFL", "Sweet 16", "MVC Champs", or "Turg is the second coming of Christ." A few others just seem to be puppets of this loser and think he is cute and clever, even though (from what I have read) he has no ability to make an intelligent argument (probably because he is wrong all the time).

Real WSU fans know we have to keep winning if we want to be considered with the class of the Valley...SIU, CU, and UNI. Those have been the three dominant teams for several years now. We have had our one year of glory and you would think we owned the Valley for the past 10 years (based on what some morons rant on here). You guys are just insecure because WSU and Wichita aren't the biggest and baddest in the Valley, which is obvious why you have such negative emotions against CU and Omaha.


Of course you agree with them -- you ALWAYS agree with anything that is negative to WSU. You really should change your name -- it's rather confusing to new posters. As to you comments on Cold -- at last he LIKES WSU (which is more than can be said for you). And here we go again with you jumping for joy over CU and Omaha. You love them so much -- I've said it before -- go, move there. Believe me, no one in Wichita is going to miss you. I'll even help you pack.

Shox21
04-28-2006, 09:01 AM
Don't even go there, Clod. Creighton is the best academic institution in the Valley and Drake is second. WSU is NOT an "academic" school, by most people's standards it is nothing more than a commuter college.

As an engineering grad, I agree with you there, however, Creighton doesn't even an engineering school. If you want to really make yourself look like an idiot, keep trying to compare WSU and CU academically, that will boost your already stellar credibility.


Okay. I'm still new to the board. Where is that "Ignore" button, or better yet where is BlueBlood's icky picture?

ten~39
05-01-2006, 10:38 PM
Funny, but Wheatshock'd postition, the "Vice President of International Sales & Logistics", doesn't appear in Raytheon Aircraft's organizational chart which includes their numerous VP's.

http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/about_us/organization_chart_home.shtml#
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/about_us/executive_profiles.shtml

What a coincidence.:ermm:

Since Wheatshock'd references Omaha ad nauseum (see his posts, one by one via his profile, if you don't believe me) I sticking with my premise that he is a CU troll from good ol' Bugaha.:yes:

ten~39
05-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Don't even go there, Clod. Creighton is the best academic institution in the Valley and Drake is second. WSU is NOT an "academic" school, by most people's standards it is nothing more than a commuter college.

As an engineering grad, I agree with you there, however, Creighton doesn't even an engineering school. If you want to really make yourself look like an idiot, keep trying to compare WSU and CU academically, that will boost your already stellar credibility.

Yeah I really wish I could have went to CU's b-school.:doh:

What with WSU's b-school only ranked in the top 10% in the nation by the Princeton Review. A ranking done by statistical analysis, not a popularity contest.

Here's some other caveats that no doubt would be bettered if we could only be that psuedo-Ivy League CU:

*largest b-school enrollment in the MVC and the state of Kansas
*largest budget (MVC and KS)
*largest endowment (MVC and KS)
*most degree paths (MVC and KS)
*highest per-capita spending on students (MVC and KS)

What could have been if all the WSU b-school grads on this forum would have attended CU instead?:no:

LMFAO!

WheatShock'd
05-01-2006, 11:00 PM
Wow, I really must be getting under some of you people's skin. You actually took the time to comb through Raytheon's webpage to try and locate a poster on VT? Wow, what kind of loser are you? Or are you another Clod disciple with a bottle of Prozac and a conspiracy theory?

Besides, the only people you will find on the profiles site at Raytheon are people who are board chairmen and in positions a lot higher than mine on the corporate scale.

Why do you even care?

WheatShock'd
05-01-2006, 11:03 PM
Nevermind, I just figured out who you are. Nice try, Clod.

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:05 PM
Why do you even care?

Stupid question genious. Why have numerous other WSU fans/alums taken task with you as well.

I posted this in another thread aimed directly towards you. Should be easy to answer these if you are who you say you are.

-What entity so integral to Beech plane delivery and sales sits at the SW corner of Central and Webb?

-What was the name of the Raytheon department/branch that was relocated out of the city a couple of years ago? Was previously based in the building at the SW corner of Douglas and Webb.

-What Beechcraft unrelated activity happens at the employee parking lot along Central between Webb and Greenwich a couple of weekends a year? Most recently just happened like month ago.

Anybody who lives in Wichita and follows business news should know these things. However, they would be hard to figure out with no more than google searches at your disposal.

MSNSaluki
05-01-2006, 11:06 PM
I think Creighton currently holds the record for post-season futility as well. WSU may have fewer NCAA appearances but when we dance we make some noise.. 4, 8, 16

It's a great day to be a Shocker!


T


...:cool:

amazing.

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:08 PM
Nevermind, I just figured out who you are. Nice try, Clod.

Umm,......try again.

WheatShock'd
05-01-2006, 11:12 PM
genious

Obviously, I am the GENIUS of this worthless conversation.

I am finished with this discussion. This is a basketball board, if you and Clod (if you are in fact different entities) want to continue, be my guest.

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:17 PM
Obviously, I am the GENIUS of this worthless conversation.

I am finished with this discussion. This is a basketball board, if you and Clod (if you are in fact different entities) want to continue be my guest.

Boom, you're done!

Your dodging of those elementary questions exposes the fact that you are not who you claim to be. End of story!

BTW you have very little experience on internet forums if you want to play the part of spelling nazi. Quickest way to make yourself look like a newbie arse.

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:27 PM
Hey Wheatshock'd, how do you like my new sig?

BS detectors in the WSU camp will now be pegged.

Thank's for your effort. I have been looking forward to exposing your troll position for some time.

C0|db|00ded
05-01-2006, 11:29 PM
Hey Wheatshock'd, how do you like my new sig?

BS detectors in the WSU camp will now be pegged.

Thank's for your effort. I have been looking forward to exposing your troll position for some time.

Good Work Ten~39!


T


...:cool:

WheatShock'd
05-01-2006, 11:39 PM
Whatever. I am not going to jump through hoops to "prove" myself to a little loser like you. Think what you want. You are guys are the prime examples of why VT has become a piece of crap and I guess I was stupid enough to counter your desperate cries for attention.

You and Clod can go pat yourselves on the back now (or whatever you two do behind closed doors), since you have obviously exposed my evil campaign. :rolleyes:

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:45 PM
Whatever. I am not going to jump through hoops to "prove" myself to a little loser like you. Think what you want. You are guys are the prime examples of why VT has become a piece of crap and I guess I was stupid enough to counter your desperate cries for attention.

You and Clod can go pat yourselves on the back now (or whatever you two do behind closed doors), since you have obviously exposed my evil campaign. :rolleyes:

Every post you create in this thread dodging a set of questions that should take you 10 seconds and approximately 40 keystrokes to answer further erodes your already nearly terminal credibility as a WSU grad/fan and Wichita resident.

Keep it up! Your "high road", with resepct to myself and those questions, is quickly taking you back to Omaha and CU.

WheatShock'd
05-01-2006, 11:54 PM
Oh yeah, I am sure if I answer your little quiz it will gain me TONS of credibility in the eyes of you and Clod (why would I want it in the first place?). You two obviously have no respect for anyone except yourselves and you are making a mockery out of WSU in the process.

If you want to quiz me, PM me, I will invite you down to my office and will enjoy every minute of watching you trying to pull your swallowed feet out of your mouths.

ten~39
05-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Oh yeah, I am sure if I answer your little quiz it will gain me TONS of credibility in the eyes of you and Clod (why would I want it in the first place?). You two obviously have no respect for anyone except yourselves and you are making a mockery out of WSU in the process.

If you want to quiz me, PM me, I will invite you down to my office and will enjoy every minute of watching you trying to pull your swallowed feet out of your mouths.

PMing WheatShock'd at the moment. Will report question results, or lack thereof, later.

MSNSaluki
05-02-2006, 12:10 AM
this is getting good.

Little Eddie
05-02-2006, 12:15 AM
Odd, not one thing about Funk on this last page...

ten~39
05-02-2006, 12:28 AM
PMing WheatShock'd at the moment. Will report question results, or lack thereof, later.

Well I PMed him about 30 minutes ago and nothing, even though the activity indicator in his profile showed he was reading the PM and then forming a PM message. Maybe he was contacting a moderator instead to cry wolf now that he has unwillingly shown his hand as a CU/Omaha troll.

Here's the text of the PM that he asked me to send. Guess it was just too much to overcome.

So what are your answers to the Q's.

Why do you refuse to answer them?

Why doesn't a buddy of mine who works in engineering at Beech not recognize your job title?

Sorry, but I'm going bed-e-bye. I'll catch back up with this in the morning.

ten~39
05-02-2006, 12:49 AM
UPDATE: couldn't resist checking in just one more time before shut-eye time, and wow was it worth it!

Below is the text from a PM rec'd from "WheatShock'd" at 12:34 AM, and no it's not a joke:

Seriously, come on. I don't want to keep arguing with you and Cold. If you don't think I am a WSU fan or even a Wichita resident, thats fine. I can assure you I am, whether you choose to believe that or not is your perogative. I signed up here to talk basketball, not get into OT cage-matches with fellow fans of all people. Unfortunately, I crossed paths with Cold very early, took offense to how I felt he was representing the university and I bit (and everything went downhill from there) - I am guilty as charged. Obviously posters who have been on here for awhile have learned that ignoring him is the best option.

I honestly don't want to do deal with this anymore. Every thread I come across gets hijacked and trashed, especially if I post in it. You guys can have your site and continue to drive away posters and even potential donators. I don't want any part of it. I will stop posting here, because honestly, the more I read on here the more I begin to question the class of Shocker fans.

Go ahead, you and Cold can beat your chests and tell the world how you slayed another "troll." But, I also want you to sincerely know that the behavior is alienating you from your own fan-base and that I was not a "troll", just an old-school Shocker fan who believes that class is the most important element a fan can have.

Peace.

Yep, he's done!

The last word there is so telling. How many VP's of Beechcraft who are that far along in their career end a communique in 'peace'. LMAO!

I really wish that some admin's or mod's would do an IP search and let us all know which CU poster "WheatShock'd" really was.

I feel like I just finished filming an episode of MythBusters! :grin:

C0|db|00ded
05-02-2006, 01:04 AM
UPDATE: couldn't resist checking in just one more time before shut-eye time, and wow was it worth it!

Below is the text from a PM rec'd from "WheatShock'd" at 12:34 AM, and no it's not a joke:



Yep, he's done!

The last word there is so telling. How many VP's of Beechcraft who are that far along in their career end a communique in 'peace'. LMAO!

I really wish that some admin's or mod's would do an IP search and let us all know which CU poster "WheatShock'd" really was.

I feel like I just finished filming an episode of MythBusters! :grin:

Just a solid overall job and I am really impressed. He speaks of class but calls his alma mater "nothing more than a commuter school" or "If Turg was coaching CU last year, they barely go .500?? rofl!! :lol:

I have analyzed his writing idiosyncrasies as well.. If he isn't way younger than his self-proclaimed "professional accomplishments" would infer, he is the hippest "old fart" in the nation.

I bid this anus adieu!


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Aargh
05-02-2006, 02:03 AM
I wouldn't condemn anybody for ending a message with the word "Peace". It could be a sincere hope.

I'm a bit suspect of WSU fans who choose to "out" someone who doesn't totally buy the hype and tends to take a conservative viewpoint. WSU is allowed to have fans who aren't drinking the Kool-Aid.

WheatShock'd, there are only 2 BBQ places in SE Wichita near Raytheon. One is across the street from Raytheon. The other is within a mile or so and heavily advertised.

Name them and I will believe you live ina Wichita and possibly work for Raytheon.

WheatShock'd, I also sent you a PM describing the work I do, my references and an offer to buy you lunch at a place of your choice in SE Wichita. Factory workers at Raytheon get a half-hour lunch. VP's get an entire afternoon for lunch if they're "working" on something.

There are some WSU fans who think every WSU fan must "toe the line" or "get off the ship" - or something.

Shox21
05-02-2006, 09:20 AM
Besides, the only people you will find on the profiles site at Raytheon are people who are board chairmen and in positions a lot higher than mine on the corporate scale.

Why do you even care?

Oh, please -- DO NOT flatter yourself that anyone CARES about you. You are the one that spouted off about what a great job you had being a "VP". What WSU fans do CARE about is all the crap you throw out. When others throw "information??" around, it is usually done in a tongue-in-cheek style. You don't. You have an agenda to get across, but you do it in a mean-spirited, non-fanlike manner. (Oh, excuse me. I forgot which team you cheer for -- maybe it isn't so un-fanlike at that.)

MikeKennedyRulz
05-02-2006, 10:16 AM
Segregated schools? Methinks you don't know very much about Omaha's school systems or the recent legislation passed on this issue.

Mackiel, in his presentation to a school board committee Monday afternoon, said the district's No. 1 priority is a repeal of the provision that would replace the Omaha district with three new districts. One district would be predominantly black, one would be mostly white and one would be predominantly Latino. The district believes that piece of the law is unconstitutional.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1640&u_sid=2161813

ten~39
05-02-2006, 11:25 AM
I wouldn't condemn anybody for ending a message with the word "Peace". It could be a sincere hope.

I'm a bit suspect of WSU fans who choose to "out" someone who doesn't totally buy the hype and tends to take a conservative viewpoint. WSU is allowed to have fans who aren't drinking the Kool-Aid.

WheatShock'd, there are only 2 BBQ places in SE Wichita near Raytheon. One is across the street from Raytheon. The other is within a mile or so and heavily advertised.

Name them and I will believe you live ina Wichita and possibly work for Raytheon.

WheatShock'd, I also sent you a PM describing the work I do, my references and an offer to buy you lunch at a place of your choice in SE Wichita. Factory workers at Raytheon get a half-hour lunch. VP's get an entire afternoon for lunch if they're "working" on something.

There are some WSU fans who think every WSU fan must "toe the line" or "get off the ship" - or something.

Aargh, would your friends describe you as gullible?

What don't you 'get'? WheatShock"d was nothing more than a secondary profile from a CU poster already on this site. Seriously, go to his profile and click on "find all posts", look through them, and then see if you still beleive there is a sliver of a chance that he was a WSU poster/Wichita resident. Methinks that maybe you haven't seen the content of his posts. They were nearly 80% in reference to CU and Omaha. The other 20% were veiled derogatory comments towards WSU and Wichita.

BTW I've already tried the Q&A thing to allow WheatShock'd to substantiate his claims, in case you didn't notice. Don't you see how he weakly approached those. Your question will go unanswered just the same.

WheatShock'd knows he was 'outed', so he chose to not continue to attempt to salvage this profile.