SIU Men Ranked in Preseason top 25

[SIU_amf1900]

According to Fox News SIU men are ranked 14 in their preseason poll. After such a great showing last season from MVC teams glad to see media starting to look at us at the begining of the season not the middle. Here is the article http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5473798


GO DAWGS :salukis:

[Aargh]

That's pretty goods for what's likely to be the #3 team in the MVC.

[dawg_tired nemesis]

It's always good to see a valley school get pub. I would think if they knew much about the valley then CU would have to get some kind of mention too.

[Ricky Del Rio]

"Cream of the Valley."

[valleyclimber]

Great to see the Valley get some pre-season pub!! CU and WSU should both be getting plenty of votes this season. It's fun to see the MVC turning the corner and getting some love....COOL! :original: :valley:

[C0|db|00ded]

"Cream of the Valley."

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[MSNSaluki]

it's not only good publicity for SIU but the valley as a whole.
can we all agree on that?

[Carrcar]

Fox News is dreaming! Look at the reality:
1. Coaching: Lowery was again the youngest coach in the NCAA tourney...only 2 years of experience. I know, I know he's undefeated against the 2 best coaches in the midwest (Dana and Gramps), and he's got the best 2 year record in the MVC, and has the most championships and post-season bids as player, assistant, and head coach in the Valley's history. But he lost the regular season trophy (Okay, maybe it was just a couple of overtime freethrows that done him in, but we still finished tied for 4th) and the home court string was broken, and we lost to a divII team.
2. Senior leadership: 2 returning seniors...THAT'S ALL...You can't win in the Valley without a lot of seniors...I know we did last year, but usually you can't.
3. Guards: Same nucleus...slow, small, and poor shooters and ball-handlers. Good defense.
4. Forwards: Strong, but slow. Good rebounders, fair shooters. Can't handle bigs, otherwise good defenders.
5. Centers: None...unless you count putting Young on POB, and since POB has moved on we're back to scratch.
6. Redshirts and recruits: Who knows and with only 8 guys on the team last year they'll be extremely important.
7. Facilities: Same old, same really old...but relief is in sight.

Summation: I know that the rest of the collegiate basketball world thinks of the Salukis as the flagship of the Valley (and probably replacing Gonzaga as the masters of midmajors), but I don't know if our unparralled MVC basketball dominance this century justifies us being compaired to Duke, UConn, and the other programs joining us in the elite preseason rankings. (Just my opinion, I could be wrong and SIU might really be that good. Sometimes it's hard to be king.)

[Dawgbit]

That's pretty goods for what's likely to be the #3 team in the MVC.

I'm thinking fifth, just like last year.

[brocks]

I have a bar in my home, and I've made it into a sports-themed place that I and my friends enjoy quite a bit. (Yes, I AM a divorced bachelor.) There's a bunch of great Valley stuff in there. I'm a huge BU fan, but I have hung banners in there from every MVC school. Yes, I'm such a geek that I had them specially made.

I've noticed on this board that every time I post something positive about BU, some ***** will post something negative. Post something positive about SIU? Some ***** will post something negative. Post something positive about WSU, some ***** will post something negative.

Why in the world would Valley fans not wish one another the best, especially when it comes to recruiting and national exposure? What a bunch of morons.

I'm taking down the banners. Go BU! Screw the morons.

[DawgFan]

brocks...the basement at our house is decked out in Saluki maroon, but features signs and memorabilia from all MVC schools.

[MSNSaluki]

I've got Valley stuff all over my basement but at work, I put a Wichita State mat in the bottom of the urinal.:lol:
Just joking.
It's a Creighton mat.:lol:
Just joking ... again.

[C0|db|00ded]

I've got Valley stuff all over my basement but at work, I put a Wichita State mat in the bottom of the urinal.:lol:
Just joking.
It's a Creighton mat.:lol:
Just joking ... again.

The men's restrooms in Koch Arena have urinal cakes with SIU-C's logo imprinted on them! :banana:

Weeee I got to say urinal cake!


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[Aargh]

MSU tried to put "WSU" cakes in the urinals, but MSU fans kept eating them thinking they were free breath mints.

[troutangler]

MSU tried to put "WSU" cakes in the urinals, but MSU fans kept eating them thinking they were free breath mints.

Nice try, but we don't have urinal cakes.

We have toilet paper that has this logo:
http://valleytalk.net/images/avatars/wichitastate.gif
on each of the squares.

We think of him every time we wipe.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Nice try, but we don't have urinal cakes.

We have toilet paper that has this logo:
http://valleytalk.net/images/avatars/wichitastate.gif
on each of the squares.

We think of him every time we wipe.

I guess when you haven't beaten somebody for so long, you have to take solice in something. :clap:

[barkeep1967]

Why in the world would Valley fans not wish one another the best, especially when it comes to recruiting and national exposure? What a bunch of morons.





Boy you have not been coming here long have you?

[Shox21]

Why in the world would Valley fans not wish one another the best, especially when it comes to recruiting and national exposure? What a bunch of morons.

I'm taking down the banners. Go BU! Screw the morons.

If you are serious about your comment, I would have to agree with barkeep that you haven't been on the board long. I just start about a month ago, and I, at first, found a lot of the comments disturbing. I finally realized that the function of the Board is to share information, but a side highlight is the "stackin' the s***" on the other teams that goes along with it. Most of it is done in fun. Take it in stride or you will go nuts.

[brocks]

If you are serious about your comment, I would have to agree with barkeep that you haven't been on the board long. I just start about a month ago, and I, at first, found a lot of the comments disturbing. I finally realized that the function of the Board is to share information, but a side highlight is the "stackin' the s***" on the other teams that goes along with it. Most of it is done in fun. Take it in stride or you will go nuts.


I was not serious about taking the banners down. And I'm all for friendly banter. The negativity about other programs in the conference surprises me, though. I've always wanted the whole conference to succeed, but when I see the ill-will some Valley fans have for BU or SIU or WSU or whomever, sometimes I wonder whether I've been supporting teams whose fans don't support mine.

[thetruthhurts]

Brocks..you also must remember that the message board is a very, very, very small percentage of team's total fan bases.

Sure, you see some of the silly smack talk and name calling on this board. It happens everywhere. But for the most part the posters are cordial and support each team.

We don't know each others. It's virtual world anyway.

[DawgieStyle]

Look, we all support valley teams when they play outside the conference...but that support starts and stops there. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna root for WSU or Creighton in the valley, when my own Alma Mater is competing for the same League Championship. The teams play with their gloves off during conference play, and so do the fans. Stop your whining.

[Shox21]

Look, we all support valley teams when they play outside the conference...but that support starts and stops there. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna root for WSU or Creighton in the valley, when my own Alma Mater is competing for the same League Championship. The teams play with their gloves off during conference play, and so do the fans. Stop your whining.

I wouldn't call it whining. He's just not used to the board yet. Most of the posters on this board have posted on many boards, and this is the way of the world there. Those of us that are new to posting, have to get used to you guys. I've learned to take what is said here with a grain of salt and let it slide (for the most part). But it does take some getting used to. So cut us "newbies" some slack. We'll get the hang of it. Just takes a little time.

[SubGod22]

Even in league play I'll kind of root for some of the other teams. As long as they're in the top half of the league and playing the bottom half. The better the showing of the upper teams in conference play the better it looks for the Valley. So if you want a little love during that time, be in the upper part of the conference.

Although even then I find it hard to root for CU, SIU and SWOMO.

[brocks]

Look, we all support valley teams when they play outside the conference...but that support starts and stops there. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna root for WSU or Creighton in the valley, when my own Alma Mater is competing for the same League Championship. The teams play with their gloves off during conference play, and so do the fans. Stop your whining.

You sound like George Bush explaining foreign policy to the rest of us: "Listen people, war is diff-iii-cult. That means it's hard, see?" Gee thanks for clarifying that. Ya mean I'm not supposed to support SIU when they're playing AGAINST Bradley? Ohhhhh! Now I understand the way this works!

C'mon, dawg. And to think I was "whining" about people bashing SIU when I think SIU being ranked is great for everyone. Bash away people! :banghead:

[MikeKennedyRulz]

You sound like George Bush explaining foreign policy to the rest of us: "Listen people, war is diff-iii-cult. That means it's hard, see?" Gee thanks for clarifying that. Ya mean I'm not supposed to support SIU when they're playing AGAINST Bradley? Ohhhhh! Now I understand the way this works!

C'mon, dawg. And to think I was "whining" about people bashing SIU when I think SIU being ranked is great for everyone. Bash away people! :banghead:

"I..I..I think them stars spangles banners should be spoken in American."

[DawgieStyle]

didn't say SIU being ranked wasn't good for the valley it is, any team ranked is good for the valley. But when we're on here comparing teams, asking who is better, or who should be ranked, don't expect any niceties. It's one thing to root for the good of the valley, it's a completely different thing to root for your own team to be better than anyone else in the valley. Again, we all support the MVC as a whole, but when we're on a chat board about valley schools, comparing each of those school against each other, it's gonna get heated, espeically if you are an alumni of that school. I'm all for Bradley beating Kansas, but when we discuss Bradley in context with any other valley school, it's on like Donkey Kong, as it should be.

[DawgieStyle]

PS I take severe insult in being compared to Dubya, that man is an idiot, I at least don't choke on pretzels. :lol:

[MikeKennedyRulz]

PS I take severe insult in being compared to Dubya, that man is an idiot, I at least don't choke on pretzels. :lol:

At least we can agree on this, my friend. He is the worst President in the history of the United States.

[C0|db|00ded]

At least we can agree on this, my friend. He is the worst President in the history of the United States.

G.W. isn't the most eloquent president we have ever had but he is FAR from the worst president in history. That comment doesn't even make sense. His term coincided with one of the most dangerous periods in American history and I don't know about you but I have felt pretty safe since 9/11. If we had some candy-a.s.s lib running the country during the last 6 years our children would all be reading Korans in kindergarten right now.


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[DawgieStyle]

yah we could have entire chat board devoted to the comedy created by the bush administration, but since this is a basketball board, I'll leave it at that.

[DawgieStyle]

G.W. isn't the most eloquent president we have ever had but he is FAR from the worst president in history. That comment doesn't even make sense. His term coincided with one of the most dangerous periods in American history and I don't know about you but I have felt pretty safe since 9/11. If we had some candy-a.s.s lib running the country during the last 6 years our children would all be reading Korans in kindergarten right now.


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Oh here we go. George W. Bush has by far committed more atrocities than any other president in the last century. The war in Iraq is a farce, complete a mission his daddy couldn't, all the while using the scare tactic of Weapons of Mass Destruction only to find there were none. Using the events of 9/11 to scare Americans into allowing the government to take away many of civil liberties, Using Bin Laden and 9/11 to create a false link between alqueida and Iraq, I'll just touch on the wonderful job his admin. did during hurricane Katrina, and then there is this whole oil crisis and gas prices all the while with his hand in the back pocket of oil rich Saudi Arabia (that whole debacle would take years to explain). Shall I go on? Giving a tax break to the rich, while increasing taxes on the poor and middle class. His top two aides of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfiled are whole discussion on stupidity in them selves. Not to Mention John Ashcroft was on his cabinet, this is the same man who lost an election in missouri to a dead man. I could go on for hours and hours about all the problems with the Bush administration, and yet some how you support this man, un real.

[brocks]

yah we could have entire chat board devoted to the comedy created by the bush administration, but since this is a basketball board, I'll leave it at that.

Well we agree on something then! Didn't mean to open THAT can o' worms.:braves: :salukis: :valley:

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Oh here we go. George W. Bush has by far committed more atrocities than any other president in the last century. The war in Iraq is a farce, complete a mission his daddy couldn't, all the while using the scare tactic of Weapons of Mass Destruction only to find there were none. Using the events of 9/11 to scare Americans into allowing the government to take away many of civil liberties, Using Bin Laden and 9/11 to create a false link between alqueida and Iraq, I'll just touch on the wonderful job his admin. did during hurricane Katrina, and then there is this whole oil crisis and gas prices all the while with his hand in the back pocket of oil rich Saudi Arabia (that whole debacle would take years to explain). Shall I go on? Giving a tax break to the rich, while increasing taxes on the poor and middle class. His top two aides of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfiled are whole discussion on stupidity in them selves. Not to Mention John Ashcroft was on his cabinet, this is the same man who lost an election in missouri to a dead man. I could go on for hours and hours about all the problems with the Bush administration, and yet some how you support this man, un real.

Pretty well sums it up in a nutshell.

[brocks]

didn't say SIU being ranked wasn't good for the valley it is, any team ranked is good for the valley. But when we're on here comparing teams, asking who is better, or who should be ranked, don't expect any niceties. It's one thing to root for the good of the valley, it's a completely different thing to root for your own team to be better than anyone else in the valley. Again, we all support the MVC as a whole, but when we're on a chat board about valley schools, comparing each of those school against each other, it's gonna get heated, espeically if you are an alumni of that school. I'm all for Bradley beating Kansas, but when we discuss Bradley in context with any other valley school, it's on like Donkey Kong, as it should be.

Just one more comment about this (or maybe two or three). We don't disagree, but you're disagreeing with me anyway. I'm not talking about conference play or order of finish. I'm talking about people saying SIU should not be ranked, or Creighton or WSU, because they're not that good. Or people saying that without POB Bradley won't win 7 games next season (what an insult to Tauai and some other graet kids), or Jim Les sucks as a coach after he's done more for the reputation of this conference in the OFF-season than at least 6 or 7 other Valley coaches have ever done. In my opinion, that's BS. I know a lot of Big Ten fans, and they are always huffing and puffing about the BIG TEN, not their own individual teams. I think we should do more of that. Bradley may just finish 7th next year in the MVC, but that doesn't mean BU sucks or Coach Les sucks. It means the Valley is a force.

[valleyclimber]

I'm not all that political, but every time I see George Bush in a television interview clip, man, I just cringe. This man is the LEADER of the free world?
Mother of mercy...have are we inadvertantly in some bad twilight zone?

History will show George Bush's presidency as downright deceiptful, and it will go down as one of the worst. :banghead:

[XSaluki]

We don't disagree, but you're disagreeing with me anyway.

That sums up why people keep coming to Valleytalk.

They can always find something they have in common to disagree about.

[valleyclimber]

XSaluki, I'd have to agree to disagree with your statement. Or maybe I should disagree to agree...ha ha. Anway, Valleytalk usually rocks because it's a fun fan forum. :original: :valley:

[brocks]

That sums up why people keep coming to Valleytalk.

They can always find something they have in common to disagree about.

:lol:

[DawgieStyle]

I'm not all that political, but every time I see George Bush in a television interview clip, man, I just cringe. This man is the LEADER of the free world?
Mother of mercy...have are we inadvertantly in some bad twilight zone?

History will show George Bush's presidency as downright deceiptful, and it will go down as one of the worst. :banghead:


Tell me you've seen the Robin Williams Live on Broadway Stand up act that took place after 9/11. If you want to roll on the floor laughing at Bush, rent this DVD. After Bush goes down from choking on snack food, you can hear the secret service saying "Gilligan's Down, Gilligan's Down." It's hillarious.

[valleyclimber]

I'll definitely have to check out the Robin Williams thing...sounds really funny!
Thanks for the tip Dawgie. I always love a good laugh even if it's at our own country's expense. :noexpression:

[thetruthhurts]

His term coincided with one of the most dangerous periods in American history and I don't know about you but I have felt pretty safe since 9/11.
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Well..George's "scare em to death" tactic has gotten one sucker it appears :)

He has milked the 9/11 thing for about all its worth. Look, I felt safe before 9/11 and I feel safe after 9/11. I don't believe the boogeymen and all the "evildoers" are out to get me 24/7. Bush wants us to believe that so we can play the "hate other people" game.

Nah, not my deal. Bush didn't do anything miraculous after 9/11. However, he did ignore warnings right before ;)

[DawgieStyle]

what do you mean there were warning signs? You mean the CIA had recorded messages and phone conversations stating they would blow up a sky scraper in the US with a plane? You mean we knew some islamic fundamentalist were obtaining illegal pass ports and illegal pilots liscense? We knew this, noooooooo, you're pulling my chain. :chair: :chair: :chair: This just came out of the blue! Don't you know God told W. everything was gonna be ok, and that seperation of church and state was a bad idea.

[DawgieStyle]

you know, now that im so intriqued about this little conversation on W. I'm moving on over the off topic threads to continue this discussion, if anyone would care to join us, just look for the George W. Bush thread.

[Shox21]

Well we agree on something then! Didn't mean to open THAT can o' worms.:braves: :salukis: :valley:

Belive me, it doesn't seem to take much to get these guys sidetracked. But it does get entertaining. Stick around. You'll see.

[shockerfan13]

you know, now that im so intriqued about this little conversation on W. I'm moving on over the off topic threads to continue this discussion, if anyone would care to join us, just look for the George W. Bush thread.


Thank you for taking that topic where it belongs.

So anyway....grats to SIU on the preseason recognition. Meaningless and I don't really agree that you are the 14th ranked team yet, but good to get that kind of pub none-the-less. I also believe there should be a couple other MVC teams there with ya...but oh well.

[DawgieStyle]

hey i didn't start it, but once it did, how can you not feel compelled to discuss it.

[shockerfan13]

hey i didn't start it, but once it did, how can you not feel compelled to discuss it.


I am SOOOO not compelled to discuss it it's not even funny LOL.

[DawgieStyle]

Thank you for taking that topic where it belongs.

So anyway....grats to SIU on the preseason recognition. Meaningless and I don't really agree that you are the 14th ranked team yet, but good to get that kind of pub none-the-less. I also believe there should be a couple other MVC teams there with ya...but oh well.


I'm sure someone will come along and point out how much of power house CU will be, and dis credit SIU as much as they can. Fact of the matter is that The players CU returns are bigger question marks due to injury than anyone SIU brings back, and like it or not returning from injury really is that devestating some times.

[XSaluki]

Giving CU credit going into next year is not discrediting SIU.

Funk is a great player. Every team will have to alter plans when he is on the court (devastated or not).

I give CU the benefit of the doubt because of the Dana factor.

All Dana had last year were question marks, and he turned every one of them into an exclamation point.

[DawgieStyle]

Giving CU credit going into next year is not discrediting SIU.

Funk is a great player. Every team will have to alter plans when he is on the court (devastated or not).

I give CU the benefit of the doubt because of the Dana factor.

All Dana had last year were question marks, and he turned every one of them into an exclamation point.

That's true. I just put a lot more emphasis and concern than Jay fans do on Funk's ability to be the player he was before the injury. Him coming back to any where close to where he was, isn't a guaruntee by any means. Maybe its just blind faith in Funk, I can respect that out of a fan, but in reality Funk may come back and be a stud but he could also come back and be awful. I'm just not sold on how good CU will be when Funk comes back, because he is the key, and that key maybe brand new and shiny or really rusty and busted.

[SiuCubFan8]

That's true. I just put a lot more emphasis and concern than Jay fans do on Funk's ability to be the player he was before the injury. Him coming back to any where close to where he was, isn't a guaruntee by any means. Maybe its just blind faith in Funk, I can respect that out of a fan, but in reality Funk may come back and be a stud but he could also come back and be awful. I'm just not sold on how good CU will be when Funk comes back, because he is the key, and that key maybe brand new and shiny or really rusty and busted.


Funk will be as good if not better than he was preinjury.
DawgieStyle, I don't know why you keep bringing up the injury? If it has ANY effect on his game he will have that rust off by the time the MVC starts. Let's be honest with ourselves here CU is going to be tough along with WSU, MSU and UNI. It will be a dawgfight!

[DawgieStyle]

no question CU will be tough. But I keep bringing up the Funk injury because it's more important than anyone is giving it credit for. How many athletes both pro and collegiate have you seen suffer a bad injury and never return to the playing level they were at before the injury? You know the answer as well as I do is the majority. Do some come back full strenght and even better, yes, I will acknowledge that. But the vast majority don't. They still can come back and be decent players, and Funk probably will be a decent player, I just don't see him ever reaching the playing level he was at, I just don't, there is too much precedent for the performance of atheletes deteriorating after a major injury.

[DoubleJayAlum]

no question CU will be tough. But I keep bringing up the Funk injury because it's more important than anyone is giving it credit for. How many athletes both pro and collegiate have you seen suffer a bad injury and never return to the playing level they were at before the injury? You know the answer as well as I do is the majority. Do some come back full strenght and even better, yes, I will acknowledge that. But the vast majority don't. They still can come back and be decent players, and Funk probably will be a decent player, I just don't see him ever reaching the playing level he was at, I just don't, there is too much precedent for the performance of atheletes deteriorating after a major injury.

I'm curious Dawgie -

Do you even know what Funk's injury was? Do you even know what body part was involved (hint: it wasn't his knee)? Do you know what treatment he got for that injury?

He should be fine. Don't forget, Tolliver will also be back next year and he wasn't injured.

[outpost]

I'm curious Dawgie -

Do you even know what Funk's injury was? Do you even know what body part was involved (hint: it wasn't his knee)? Do you know what treatment he got for that injury?

He should be fine. Don't forget, Tolliver will also be back next year and he wasn't injured.

Now that's what you call a knee-jerk reaction.

[Aargh]

Be very, very careful when naming Funk's injury - his labrum. That is not a word where you want a typo.

There is one thing I wanted to add to the Bush discussion - can he play PG?

[C0|db|00ded]

Oh here we go. George W. Bush has by far committed more atrocities than any other president in the last century. The war in Iraq is a farce, complete a mission his daddy couldn't, all the while using the scare tactic of Weapons of Mass Destruction only to find there were none. Using the events of 9/11 to scare Americans into allowing the government to take away many of civil liberties, Using Bin Laden and 9/11 to create a false link between alqueida and Iraq, I'll just touch on the wonderful job his admin. did during hurricane Katrina, and then there is this whole oil crisis and gas prices all the while with his hand in the back pocket of oil rich Saudi Arabia (that whole debacle would take years to explain). Shall I go on? Giving a tax break to the rich, while increasing taxes on the poor and middle class. His top two aides of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfiled are whole discussion on stupidity in them selves. Not to Mention John Ashcroft was on his cabinet, this is the same man who lost an election in missouri to a dead man. I could go on for hours and hours about all the problems with the Bush administration, and yet some how you support this man, un real.

Add another victim/sheep to Michael Moore's pasture of lunacy. Let me guess, you were sitting there opening night, mouth full of popcorn, leaning over to your sweetie, "No _ _ _ _, he really did all of that??".

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[SiuCubFan8]

Be very, very careful when naming Funk's injury - his labrum. That is not a word where you want a typo.

There is one thing I wanted to add to the Bush discussion - can he play PG?

I had the same injury as Funk and he will come back just fine. I have 6 staples in my shoulder and was playing bball in 6 months. It is an injury you don't want as a Pitcher. He will be just fine.

[DawgieStyle]

cold it strikes me as no surprise where your political ideals reside. but swing on over the off topic disicussion, you'll find plenty of fodder, facts and intelligent thought on the topic. But be warned, truth hurts.

[SiuCubFan8]

cold it strikes me as no surprise where your political ideals reside. but swing on over the off topic disicussion, you'll find plenty of fodder, facts and intelligent thought on the topic. But be warned, truth hurts.

Michale Moore is hardly the truth!

[MSNSaluki]

Add another victim/sheep to Michael Moore's pasture of lunacy. Let me guess, you were sitting there opening night, mouth full of popcorn, leaning over to your sweetie, "No _ _ _ _, he really did all of that??".

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OMG ... Cold and I are both Republican.
Well, I'm freakin' proud of it. Don't mention Michael Moore on this site again!

[RussDaBus]

Michael Moore

[MSNSaluki]

okay.
now, don't do it again.:grin:

[SubGod22]

I'm with Joey here. As an independant I find the Fat Man to be a complete fool. No inteligent person would use him as a basis for rational debate.

[underdawg2]

Add another victim/sheep to Michael Moore's pasture of lunacy. Let me guess, you were sitting there opening night, mouth full of popcorn, leaning over to your sweetie, "No _ _ _ _, he really did all of that??".

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It's a great day to be a Democrat!
:lol:

[DawgieStyle]

actually I've never seen a Miachel Moore film. I would agree it's probably propoganda for Democratic fodder. But from what you've said, I'd probably agree with alot of stuff he would say. The Bush administration has been a disaster, I find it difficult to beleive so many people are still blindly following this man as the leader of the free world. It's one thing to make a mistake to support and vote for him, it's a down right tragedy that AFTER the path he's taken this country down and the repeated ignorance Bush has Shown, that you still would support and vote for him. Here's to hoping that at some point you might realize that blind allegiance to a particular party might kill this country. Luckily for most American's as is evident by Mr. Bush's 30% approval rating they have discovered the errors of their way.

[shockerfan13]

I thought this political stuff was gonna go to the off topic board....:ermm:

[DawgieStyle]

lol, it did, its there, it just came back here.

[BlueDude]

Its all FXXXin' politics man.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2397715

Andy Katz pre-season next year predict.'s

Five Mids that could crack Top 25:
SIU-Lowery coaching speculation? If he leaves now or in one year, this place has turned into a coaching factory. How do they maintain the quality?, pretty amazing.

Missou. State
Mentions Ahearn's free throw talents, didn't mention banjo playing skills...
Biggest RPI ignoring school

Five more Mids that won't start in the T-25 but may make an appearance:
CU-Check out the newest recruit "Nate Tolliver" very versatile player???

[saluki70]

The men's restrooms in Koch Arena have urinal cakes with SIU-C's logo imprinted on them! :banana:

Weeee I got to say urinal cake!


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Yes, but not as cool as the toilet paper in the SIU Arena with black and gold Shocker emblems printed all over it. I've order some for my house as well.

[Aargh]

Yes, but not as cool as the toilet paper in the SIU Arena with black and gold Shocker emblems printed all over it. I've order some for my house as well.
I wasn't buying into all this "sleeping giant" hype or the one-year run to the S16 proving something hype, but...

If other Valley schools are producing and marketing Shocker memorabilia and displaying it in their arenas, maybe all the hype is true.

I'm glad to hear that SIU is contributing to WSU's record year for licensing income from WSU-themed products.

WSU needs to market some urinal guards (those things right under the breath mints) with Shocker logos on them. Those would sell like hotcakes in Valley towns other than Wichita.

If people want to wipe their butts or p~ss on Shocker-licensed products - no problem. Just keep sending that licensing revenue in. We may have some more coaches who deserve raises next year.

[Dawgbit]

I wasn't buying into all this "sleeping giant" hype or the one-year run to the S16 proving something hype, but...

If other Valley schools are producing and marketing Shocker memorabilia and displaying it in their arenas, maybe all the hype is true.

I'm glad to hear that SIU is contributing to WSU's record year for licensing income from WSU-themed products.

WSU needs to market some urinal guards (those things right under the breath mints) with Shocker logos on them. Those would sell like hotcakes in Valley towns other than Wichita.

If people want to wipe their butts or p~ss on Shocker-licensed products - no problem. Just keep sending that licensing revenue in. We may have some more coaches who deserve raises next year.


SIU also has some Arizona swampland for sale, if you are intersted.:no:

[Aargh]

SIU also has some Arizona swampland for sale, if you are intersted.:no:
I thought my post might catch some fish. I had no idea the fish would be jumping into the boat, landing on the cutlery and filleting themselves.

To express the weakness of that post I have to go to a knockoff of Wierd Al Yankovich knocking off a Madonna song.

"Like a sturgeon"
"Filleted for the very first time"