schedule strength and RPI

[jt45]

I read somewhere that Indiana plays Duke next year. I am knowledgeable about the college game but not so much all the rules. I was just curious what this does for Ind st and Siu as far as strength of schedule and RPI?

[iSASO]

Nothing if they don't play Indiana or Duke. If they do, it would be part of their "opponents-opponents" factor.

[kyyle23]

Nothing if they don't play Indiana or Duke. If they do, it would be part of their "opponents-opponents" factor.

Well, since Indiana is on the schedule.....

[SycamoresRule]

You may remember that Indiana State was in the top 15 of the RPI through the end of December. That included a win over Indiana who had played (and almost beat) Duke. It will help the RPI and SOS a lot.

I can't seem to remember what happened in the season after that... :chair:

[DoubleJayAlum]

You may remember that Indiana State was in the top 15 of the RPI through the end of December. That included a win over Indiana who had played (and almost beat) Duke. It will help the RPI and SOS a lot.

I can't seem to remember what happened in the season after that... :chair:

Damn injuries!

[outpost]

Damn injuries!

And way too many miracle shots by the "other" team......of course, it would be clutch if it were the other way around......:sycamores:

(apologies sycamore fans, not truly directed at you)

[bberilam]

It doesn't matter how it affects the RPI, the RPI is worthless and obviously not a reliable signal for determining the quality of a team.

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[engrshock]

I can certainly understand why MSU fans would feel that way. For that matter WSU in 2005 did not get in with a RPI of 42. Of course that rating was not near high enough to make the tournament.

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

The RPI is not worthless. It is what it is -- one component of a team's entire season-long profile.

An RPI ranking of 21 is pretty impressive -- until you start looking at the details and see a 4-8 record against other teams in the RPI Top 50. Then the #21 ranking falls into doubt; and when four other teams in your conference can put together Top 50 RPIs, and better records against Top 50 teams, and truly impressive nonconference road wins, and regular-season and tournament titles... well, you shouldn't get mad at the RPI when you have the fifth-best profile in a four-bid league.

[engrshock]

Man I hate it when someone brings logic and reasoning into a discussion. Still MSU should have had a fifth bid for the MVC this year, To thow out the 19 or 21 RPI as not worthy does not do justice to the ratings system when the MVC had a good showing in the tournament and MSU did pretty well in the NIT. Obviously, the RPI does stand for something when it is used to justify keeping a team out until this year.

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

Man I hate it when someone brings logic and reasoning into a discussion. Still MSU should have had a fifth bid for the MVC this year, To thow out the 19 or 21 RPI as not worthy does not do justice to the ratings system when the MVC had a good showing in the tournament and MSU did pretty well in the NIT. Obviously, the RPI does stand for something when it is used to justify keeping a team out until this year.

I think that there have been years where the Selection Committee might have taken five teams from the Valley; it just so happens that this year's committee chose to reward the second-best teams in the WAC and Mountain West instead.

There's no reason to whine about it, and no reason to overreact. The Bears could have won more games; they didn't, and gave the committee an excuse to overlook them. Maybe next time the team has a gaudy RPI and weak peripherals, the coach won't declare openly that a win in St. Louis is unnecessary.

[MSNSaluki]

I think that there have been years where the Selection Committee might have taken five teams from the Valley; it just so happens that this year's committee chose to reward the second-best teams in the WAC and Mountain West instead.

There's no reason to whine about it, and no reason to overreact. The Bears could have won more games; they didn't, and gave the committee an excuse to overlook them. Maybe next time the team has a gaudy RPI and weak peripherals, the coach won't declare openly that a win in St. Louis is unnecessary.


losing ugly in the first round of the valley tournament certainly didn't help mo. state's chances.

[engrshock]

I think this last year was about the only year that the MVC would have gotten 5 teams in. Next year maybe just 2 or 3 if the RPI's are not high enough. I am not whining just discussing a topic. I think the NCAA selection committee looked at conference affliations in offering bids, not just who the best teams were, and were not going to allow 5 teams in from the MVC.