2006/07 Schedules to date...

[ValleyGuy]

There has been a lot of discussion on the scheduling practices around the league in the offseason here on ValleyTalk. With that in mind, where does your team stand as of 8/17?

Post the games, your thoughts on the quality of games and your expectations.


Bradley
Date Opponent H/A/N
11-Nov DePaul H
15-Nov SIUE H
19-Nov UIC H
21-Nov Florida A&M H
24-Nov Rutgers N
25-Nov Illinois or Miami (OH) N
29-Nov Tenn Tech A
3-Dec Michigan State A
5-Dec Wright State H
16-Dec Iowa State N
19-Dec Loyola Chicago H
23-Dec Southern Miss H
17-Feb Bracket Buster A

Thoughts: Good scheduling gets with Mich State, Iowa State and, potentially, Illinois. I don't like SIUE on there. I don't think having a DII does much good, regardless of the other challenges.

Nice intrastate games continue with DePaul and Loyola with UIC added.

The rest looks nicely balanced.

Predictions: Tough schedule for the 06/07 edition of the Bravos. This could be a year early for them. I see them about 6-6 (w/o the BB game) in the non-con

[ISU87]

Indiana State released the schedule today. Tulane winds up being the added on game


<TABLE width="75%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="13%">Date</TD><TD width="48%">Opponent</TD><TD width="39%">Location</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/4</TD><TD>Missouri Southern (Exhib.)</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/14</TD><TD>Western Michigan</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/17</TD><TD>at Indiana </TD><TD>Bloomington, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/19</TD><TD>at IPFW</TD><TD>Fort Wayne, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/25</TD><TD>Tulane</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/27</TD><TD>Oakland City</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>11/30</TD><TD>at Middle Tennessee St.</TD><TD>Murfreesboro, Tenn.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/2</TD><TD>at Ball State</TD><TD>Muncie, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/9</TD><TD>Butler</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/16</TD><TD>at Missouri State*</TD><TD>Springfield, Mo.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/21</TD><TD>Wagner</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/28</TD><TD>Purdue</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>12/30</TD><TD>Drake*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/4</TD><TD>Creighton*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/6</TD><TD>at Illinois State*</TD><TD>Normal, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/10</TD><TD>Wichita State*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/13</TD><TD>Bradley*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/18</TD><TD>at Drake*</TD><TD>Des Moines, Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/20</TD><TD>at Northern Iowa*</TD><TD>Cedar Falls, Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/24</TD><TD>Evansville*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/27</TD><TD>at Creighton*</TD><TD>Omaha, Neb.</TD></TR><TR><TD>1/31</TD><TD>at Southern Illinois*</TD><TD>Carbondale, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/3</TD><TD>Missouri State*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/8</TD><TD>at Wichita State*</TD><TD>Wichita, Kan.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/11</TD><TD>at Evansville*</TD><TD>Evansville, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/14</TD><TD>Illinois State*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/17</TD><TD>vs. Bracket Buster </TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/21</TD><TD>at Southern Illinois*</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>2/24</TD><TD>at Bradley</TD><TD>Peoria, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>3/1-3/4</TD><TD>at MVC Tournament</TD><TD>St. Louis, Mo.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>* Denotes MVC Contest
ISU All-Time Records Against 2006-07 Opponents
Ball State: ISU leads, 67-55
Bradley: Bradley leads, 42-23
Butler: Butler leads 66-55
Creighton: Creigton leads, 43-20
Drake: Drake leads, 33-28
Evansville: ISU leads, 73-70
Illinois State: Illinois State leads, 53-40
Indiana: IU leads, 16-5
IPFW: IPFW leads, 1-0
Middle Tennessee St.: ISU leads, 2-1
Missouri State: Missouri State leads, 30-15
Northern Iowa: ISU leads, 17-14
Oakland City: ISU leads, 32-4
Purdue: Purdue leads 27-3
Southern Illinois: SIU leads, 71-36
Tulane: Tulane leads, 2-0
Wagner: First meeting
Wichita State: Wichita State leads, 39-24
Western Michigan: ISU leads, 12-4

[barkeep1967]

Date Day Opponent Location TV Outcome/Time
11/02/06 Thu Quincy (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/05/06 Sun Henderson State (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 4:05 PM
11/10/06 Fri Washington (Mo.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/19/06 Sun Murray State Carbondale, Ill. 2:05 PM
11/23/06 Thu Arkansas (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:00 PM
11/24/06 Fri Marist or Minnesota (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:30 PM
11/26/06 Sun ESPNU Classic Orlando, Fla. TBA TBA
11/29/06 Wed Louisiana Tech Ruston, La. TBA
12/02/06 Sat Saint Louis Carbondale, Ill. TBA
12/09/06 Sat Western Kentucky Bowling Green, Ky. TBA
12/17/06 Sun Indiana Bloomington, Ind. ESPN 8:00 PM
12/20/06 Wed Central Michigan Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Sat Saint Mary's Moraga. Calif. 11:00 AM
12/29/06 Fri Illinois State Normal, Ill. TBA
01/01/07 Mon Wichita State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/04/07 Thu Drake Des Moines, Iowa TBA
01/06/07 Sat Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, Iowa TBA
01/10/07 Wed Bradley Peoria, Ill. TBA
01/13/07 Sat Missouri State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/15/07 Mon Drake Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/17/07 Wed Evansville Evansville, Ind. TBA
01/20/07 Sat Creighton Omaha Neb. TBA
01/23/07 Tue Northern Iowa Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/27/07 Sat Illinois State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/31/07 Wed Indiana State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/03/07 Sat Wichita State Wichita, Kan. TBA
02/07/07 Wed Bradley Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/10/07 Sat Creighton Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/13/07 Tue Missouri State Springfield, Mo. TBA
02/17/07 Sat ESPN BracketBusters TBA TBA
02/21/07 Wed Indiana State Terre Haute, Ind. TBA
02/24/07 Sat Evansville Carbondale, Ill. TBA



Look who we play New Years Day :naughty:

[LincolnJay]

Saw this at the Bradley site while searching for CU games since we are always so late to announce our schedule:ranting:


Date Opponent Location Time (CST) Results Media
Preseason Exhibitions

Fri, Oct 27 Red-White Scrimmage Robertson Fieldhouse 7:35 p.m.
Wed, Nov 01 Winona State Robertson Fieldhouse 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Nov 04 Northwest Missouri State Carver Arena 2:05 p.m.


Sat, Nov 11 DePaul Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Wed, Nov 15 SIU-Edwardsville Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Chicago Challenge Invitational

Sun, Nov 19 Illinois-Chicago Carver Arena 2:05 p.m.
Tue, Nov 21 Florida A&M Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Fri, Nov 24 Rutgers at Hoffman Estates, Ill. TBA
Sat, Nov 25 Illinois or Miami (Ohio) at Hoffman Estates, Ill. TBA


Wed, Nov 29 Tennessee Tech at Cookeville, Tenn. 7:05 p.m.
Sun, Dec 03 Michigan State at East Lansing, Mich. 11:00 a.m.
Tue, Dec 05 Wright State Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Mediacom Cyclone Capital Classic

Sat, Dec 16 Iowa State at Des Moines, Iowa 2 or 4 p.m. espn2



Tue, Dec 19 Loyola-Chicago Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Dec 23 Southern Miss Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Wed, Dec 27 UNI at Cedar Falls, Iowa TBA
Sat, Dec 30 Evansville Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Tue, Jan 02 Missouri State Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Thu, Jan 04 Wichita State at Wichita, Kan. TBA
Sat, Jan 06 Drake at Des Moines, Iowa TBA
Wed, Jan 10 Southern Illinois Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Jan 13 Indiana State at Terre Haute, Ind. TBA
Thu, Jan 18 Creighton at Omaha, Neb. 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Jan 20 Wichita State Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Wed, Jan 24 Illinois State Carver Arena TBA
Sat, Jan 27 Missouri State at Springfield, Mo. TBA
Wed, Jan 31 Creighton Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Feb 03 Illinois State at Normal, Ill. 7:05 p.m.
Wed, Feb 07 Southern Illinois at Carbondale, Ill. TBA
Sat, Feb 10 Drake Carver Arena 2:05 p.m.
Wed, Feb 14 Evansville at Evansville, Ind. TBA
ESPN BracketBusters

Sat, Feb 17 TBA at TBA TBA TBA



Tue, Feb 20 UNI Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
Sat, Feb 24 Indiana State Carver Arena 7:05 p.m.
State Farm Missouri Valley Conference Tournament

Thu, Mar 01 First Round at St. Louis, Mo. TBA
Fri, Mar 02 Quarterfinals at St. Louis, Mo. 12:05/6:05 p.m. MVC-TV

Sat, Mar 03 Semifinals at St. Louis, Mo. 1:35/4:05 p.m. MVC-TV

Sun, Mar 04 Championship at St. Louis, Mo. 1:05 p.m. CBS

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Date Day Opponent Location TV Outcome/Time
11/02/06 Thu Quincy (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/05/06 Sun Henderson State (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 4:05 PM
11/10/06 Fri Washington (Mo.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/19/06 Sun Murray State Carbondale, Ill. 2:05 PM
11/23/06 Thu Arkansas (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:00 PM
11/24/06 Fri Marist or Minnesota (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:30 PM
11/26/06 Sun ESPNU Classic Orlando, Fla. TBA TBA
11/29/06 Wed Louisiana Tech Ruston, La. TBA
12/02/06 Sat Saint Louis Carbondale, Ill. TBA
12/09/06 Sat Western Kentucky Bowling Green, Ky. TBA
12/17/06 Sun Indiana Bloomington, Ind. ESPN 8:00 PM
12/20/06 Wed Central Michigan Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Sat Saint Mary's Moraga. Calif. 11:00 AM
12/29/06 Fri Illinois State Normal, Ill. TBA
01/01/07 Mon Wichita State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/04/07 Thu Drake Des Moines, Iowa TBA
01/06/07 Sat Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, Iowa TBA
01/10/07 Wed Bradley Peoria, Ill. TBA
01/13/07 Sat Missouri State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/15/07 Mon Drake Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/17/07 Wed Evansville Evansville, Ind. TBA
01/20/07 Sat Creighton Omaha Neb. TBA
01/23/07 Tue Northern Iowa Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/27/07 Sat Illinois State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/31/07 Wed Indiana State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/03/07 Sat Wichita State Wichita, Kan. TBA
02/07/07 Wed Bradley Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/10/07 Sat Creighton Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/13/07 Tue Missouri State Springfield, Mo. TBA
02/17/07 Sat ESPN BracketBusters TBA TBA
02/21/07 Wed Indiana State Terre Haute, Ind. TBA
02/24/07 Sat Evansville Carbondale, Ill. TBA



Look who we play New Years Day :naughty:

Ahh, your world series. Good luck. Oh, and I will go ahead and say it now:

All of our students were out of town for break!! Its not fair!!! That is why we only had 200 people at the game!! Those meanies at the MVC and their scheduling. :crying:

[WSUbballer]

Date Day Opponent Location TV Outcome/Time
11/02/06 Thu Quincy (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/05/06 Sun Henderson State (Exhib.) Carbondale, Ill. 4:05 PM
11/10/06 Fri Washington (Mo.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/19/06 Sun Murray State Carbondale, Ill. 2:05 PM
11/23/06 Thu Arkansas (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:00 PM
11/24/06 Fri Marist or Minnesota (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:30 PM
11/26/06 Sun ESPNU Classic Orlando, Fla. TBA TBA
11/29/06 Wed Louisiana Tech Ruston, La. TBA
12/02/06 Sat Saint Louis Carbondale, Ill. TBA
12/09/06 Sat Western Kentucky Bowling Green, Ky. TBA
12/17/06 Sun Indiana Bloomington, Ind. ESPN 8:00 PM
12/20/06 Wed Central Michigan Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Sat Saint Mary's Moraga. Calif. 11:00 AM
12/29/06 Fri Illinois State Normal, Ill. TBA
01/01/07 Mon Wichita State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/04/07 Thu Drake Des Moines, Iowa TBA
01/06/07 Sat Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, Iowa TBA
01/10/07 Wed Bradley Peoria, Ill. TBA
01/13/07 Sat Missouri State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/15/07 Mon Drake Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/17/07 Wed Evansville Evansville, Ind. TBA
01/20/07 Sat Creighton Omaha Neb. TBA
01/23/07 Tue Northern Iowa Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/27/07 Sat Illinois State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/31/07 Wed Indiana State Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/03/07 Sat Wichita State Wichita, Kan. TBA
02/07/07 Wed Bradley Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/10/07 Sat Creighton Carbondale, Ill. TBA
02/13/07 Tue Missouri State Springfield, Mo. TBA
02/17/07 Sat ESPN BracketBusters TBA TBA
02/21/07 Wed Indiana State Terre Haute, Ind. TBA
02/24/07 Sat Evansville Carbondale, Ill. TBA



Look who we play New Years Day :naughty:
I hate to bring up an already over-used topic, but...that OOC home schedule doesn't exactly look...dazzling..

[cufan]

I'll bet you dollars to donuts SIU's OCC strength of schedule will be better than WSU's (excluding the bracket buster game).

[LincolnJay]

I hate to bring up an already over-used topic, but...that OOC home schedule doesn't exactly look...dazzling..

The D2 game is a stinker but what else on there is bad?


11/10/06 Fri Washington (Mo.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/19/06 Sun Murray State Carbondale, Ill. 2:05 PM
11/23/06 Thu Arkansas (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:00 PM
11/24/06 Fri Marist or Minnesota (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:30 PM
11/26/06 Sun ESPNU Classic Orlando, Fla. TBA TBA
11/29/06 Wed Louisiana Tech Ruston, La. TBA
12/02/06 Sat Saint Louis Carbondale, Ill. TBA
12/09/06 Sat Western Kentucky Bowling Green, Ky. TBA
12/17/06 Sun Indiana Bloomington, Ind. ESPN 8:00 PM
12/20/06 Wed Central Michigan Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Sat Saint Mary's Moraga. Calif. 11:00 AM

[WSUbballer]

The D2 game is a stinker but what else on there is bad?


11/10/06 Fri Washington (Mo.) Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/19/06 Sun Murray State Carbondale, Ill. 2:05 PM
11/23/06 Thu Arkansas (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:00 PM
11/24/06 Fri Marist or Minnesota (ESPNU Classic) Orlando, Fla. ESPN2 12:30 PM
11/26/06 Sun ESPNU Classic Orlando, Fla. TBA TBA
11/29/06 Wed Louisiana Tech Ruston, La. TBA
12/02/06 Sat Saint Louis Carbondale, Ill. TBA
12/09/06 Sat Western Kentucky Bowling Green, Ky. TBA
12/17/06 Sun Indiana Bloomington, Ind. ESPN 8:00 PM
12/20/06 Wed Central Michigan Carbondale, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Sat Saint Mary's Moraga. Calif. 11:00 AM
Im talking about their HOME schedule.
Washington (MO), Murray State, St. Louis, Central Michigan
I'm not saying WSU's is anything to be proud of, I'm just saying with all the talk about scheduling one way brings about a terrific home schedule.....I just don't see it...:no:

[WSUbballer]

I'll bet you dollars to donuts SIU's OCC strength of schedule will be better than WSU's (excluding the bracket buster game).
Of course I wouldn't take that bet (WSU's home schedule is still incomplete at the moment BTW) I'm just saying from a typical fan's prospective (that doesn't know any better) the schedule isn't, sorry to say, sparkling.

[cufan]

Im talking about their HOME schedule.
Washington (MO), Murray State, St. Louis, Central Michigan
I'm not saying WSU's is anything to be proud of, I'm just saying with all the talk about scheduling one way brings about a terrific home schedule.....I just don't see it...


Oops, heh-heh. My bad.

[LincolnJay]

Im talking about their HOME schedule.
Washington (MO), Murray State, St. Louis, Central Michigan
I'm not saying WSU's is anything to be proud of, I'm just saying with all the talk about scheduling one way brings about a terrific home schedule.....I just don't see it...:no:

Well, with that change to HOME schedule, I will agree that outside of St Louis {and that being due to proximity more than quality of opponent}, that home schedule isn't so great. Murray is normally decent but Central Michigan was a one year wonder a couple years ago and has sucked since.

[BearsCountry]

Is Washington an exhibition? They are a D3 school.

[WSUbballer]

Is Washington an exhibition? They are a D3 school.
I'm pretty sure you only get two exhibtion games, so I'm afraid that's a no.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

I'm pretty sure you only get two exhibtion games, so I'm afraid that's a no.

OUCH!!!

[WSUbballer]

If you can't beat the D2's, you gotta schedule the D3's!:lol: (sorry I hadda..)

[SalukiSpike]

Well, with that change to HOME schedule, I will agree that outside of St Louis {and that being due to proximity more than quality of opponent}, that home schedule isn't so great. Murray is normally decent but Central Michigan was a one year wonder a couple years ago and has sucked since.

I have a dream schedule next year...Indiana, St. Marys, and the BB return at home(hopefully Bucknell). Along with next years BB at home(nevada). Then decent teams like Hofstra and Pennsylvania.

Then go on the road to face Kent State, Wisconsin Milwaukee, Utah, West Virginia and Arkansas(after getting home and homes with them this year), and a 1 and done buyout game with Oklahoma.

Ahh, pipe dreams are fun, but that is a great non con schedule.

[Phantom]

Heres ours...

11/01/06 Missouri-St. Louis Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/12/06 SMU Tallahassee, Fla. 4:00 PM
11/13/06 Florida State Tallahassee, Fla. 6:30 PM
11/14/06 Mcneese State Tallahassee, Fla. 4:00 PM
11/20/06 Cal State Northridge Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
11/25/06 St. John's Jamaica, N.Y. TBA
11/29/06 Sacramento State Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/02/06 Texas-Arlington Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/05/06 Miami (Oh) Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/09/06 Evansville Evansville, Ind. TBA
12/16/06 Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich. 2:05 PM
12/19/06 Lewis Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
12/23/06 Illinois-Chicago Chicago, Ill. 2:00 PM
12/29/06 Southern Illinois Normal, Ill. 6:05 PM
01/01/07 Creighton Omaha, Neb. TBA
01/06/07 Indiana State Normal, Ill. 4:05 PM
01/09/07 Northern Iowa Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
01/13/07 Drake Des Moines, Iowa TBA
01/15/07 Missouri State Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
01/18/07 Wichita State Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
01/21/07 Drake Normal, Ill. 2:05 PM
01/24/07 Bradley Peoria, Ill. TBA
01/27/07 Southern Illinois Carbondale, Ill. TBA
01/30/07 Evansville Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
02/03/07 Bradley Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
02/06/07 Missouri State Springfield, Mo. TBA
02/11/07 Wichita State Wichita, Kan. TBA
02/14/07 Indiana State Terre Haute, Ind. TBA
02/17/07 ESPN BracketBusters Normal, Ill. TBA
02/20/07 Creighton Normal, Ill. 7:05 PM
02/24/07 Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, Iowa TBA


2 things that REALLY piss me off about this: First of all, am I the only one who hates starting conference play so early? We open up @ UE on Dec 9th and still have 3 non-con games after that. I know this is happening to pretty much everybody this year but am I the only one who dosent like that situation?

Secondly, we host SIU over Xmas break. Great. Nothing quite like hosting one of our biggest rivals when the students are gone, no band, no dance team, etc. I think thats just total crap, but oh well.

[Shox21]

Secondly, we host SIU over Xmas break. Great. Nothing quite like hosting one of our biggest rivals when the students are gone, no band, no dance team, etc. I think thats just total crap, but oh well.



I think WSU gets them New Year's Day!!!! Yeah, hangovers.

[barkeep1967]

I have a dream schedule next year...Indiana, St. Marys, and the BB return at home(hopefully Bucknell). Along with next years BB at home(nevada). Then decent teams like Hofstra and Pennsylvania.

SIU starts a home and home with Washington next year. Not sure where it is going to start. And before the smartass comments start. That is the University of Washington Huskies

[Phantom]

I think WSU gets them New Year's Day!!!! Yeah, hangovers.


Yea, theres 2 New Years Day games so far...

WSU @ SIU
ILST @ CU

MVC tryin to compete with the Bowl games now? :lol:

[BearsCountry]

Bears schedule was announced on the radio but not on the website yet. Our wonderful SID at work again.

[BearsCountry]

Here is the Bears schedule, we got a D2 opponent as well.

2006-2007 MISSOURI STATE BEARS BASKETBALL SCHEDULE
Nov. 1 Truman State (Exh.)
Nov. 6 Upper Iowa (Exh.)
Nov. 11 Toledo
Nov. 19 Delaware State
Nov. 21 Lincoln
Nov. 24 vs. Wisconsin^
Nov. 25 vs. Oklahoma State/Auburn^
Dec. 1 Alabama State**
Dec. 2 Santa Clara/Stephen F. Austin**
Dec. 6 Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Dec. 9 at UNC-Wilmington
Dec. 16 Indiana State*
Dec. 18 at Saint Louis
Dec. 22 at USF
Dec. 30 at Creighton*
Jan. 2 at Bradley*
Jan. 7 Wichita State*
Jan. 9 Evansville*
Jan. 13 at Southern Illinois*
Jan. 15 at Illinois State*
Jan. 18 Northern Iowa*
Jan. 21 at Evansville*
Jan. 24 Creighton*
Jan. 27 Bradley*
Jan. 31 at Drake*
Feb. 3 at Indiana State*
Feb. 6 Illinois State*
Feb. 10 at Northern Iowa*
Feb. 13 Southern Illinois*
Feb. 17 ESPN Bracket Buster
Feb. 20 at Wichita State*
Feb. 24 Drake*
Mar. 1-4 State Farm MVC Tournament

^South Padre Island Tournament
**Price Cutter Classic
*MVC Conference Games

[bearhair]

Nov. 1......... Truman State
Nov. 6......... Upper Iowa
Nov. 11........Toledo
Nov. 19 .......Delaware State
Nov. 21 .......Lincoln
Nov. 24 .......vs. Wisconsin (South Padre Island, Texas)
Nov. 25........Oklahoma St. or Auburn (South Padre Island, Texas)
Nov. 30........Alabama State
Dec. 2.........Santa Clara
Dec. 6.........Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Dec. 9.........@ N.C.-Wilmington
Dec. 16.......Indiana State
Dec. 19.......@Saint Louis
Dec. 22.......@ South Florida
Dec. 30.......@ Creighton Univ
Jan. 2.........@ Bradley Univ
Jan. 7.........Wichita State Univ
Jan. 9.........Evansville Univ
Jan. 13.......@ Southern Illinois U
Jan. 15.......@ Illinois State
Jan. 18.......Northern Iowa U
Jan. 21.......@ Evansville U
Jan. 24.......Creighton Univ
Jan. 27.......Bradley Univ
Jan. 31.......@ Drake Univ
Feb. 3........@ Indiana State
Feb. 6........Illinois State
Feb. 10......@ Northern Iowa U
Feb. 13......Southern Illinois U
Feb. 17......ESPN Bracket Busters home game
Feb. 20......@ Wichita State U
Feb. 24......Drake Univ
March 1-4..MVC Tournament in St. Louis

Missouri State Schedule

Sorry Bearscountry, I posted along with you

[BearsCountry]

Its all good, I probally took yours from letsgobears.com.

[MoValley John]

Who and where is Lincoln?

[BearsCountry]

Who and where is Lincoln?

D2 school out of Jefferson City, MO. Used to be a rival of the Bears back in our D2 days, last year in an exh. game we beat them 95-65.

[MoValley John]

Thanks.

[smsandmsuson]

D2 school out of Jefferson City, MO. Used to be a rival of the Bears back in our D2 days, last year in an exh. game we beat them 95-65.

well if you are going to buy out a game you might as well buy one that wont hurt you RPI...not that matters to us anyways:doh:...but over all i like this schedule...but if its not for the tourney it would suck once again...good job barry...

[MSNSaluki]

SIU starts a home and home with Washington next year. Not sure where it is going to start. And before the smartass comments start. That is the University of Washington Huskies

Barkeep ...

Is this confirmed info or just speculation because of Justin Dentmon?
It's logical. It'd be a good get for us. I just hope it happens.

[barkeep1967]

Is this confirmed info or just speculation because of Justin Dentmon?
It's logical. It'd be a good get for us. I just hope it happens.


It's coming from the SID so I would have to say it is a done deal.

[bears1]

It's my understanding that the Lincoln game is part of the South Padre Island tournament with Wisconsin and Ok state. We didnt intentionaly schedule them, they just happen to be in the tournament along with the others such as Delaware state. At least those games are played at home. (kind of an odd tournament the way it's laid out).

[MSNSaluki]

It's coming from the SID so I would have to say it is a done deal.

That's good enough for me!:salukis:
Thanks!

[jdoolsiu]

Uh, being 66-3 in 69 home games since 2002 doesn't really help bring the teams in from the big conferences, guys.

That being said, Coach Lowery turned down an ESPN game AT UNC.
He did this because it was a one in done.
He is retarded.
Now, we have Wash U.
Thanks, coach.
Thanks.
dools

[barkeep1967]

ummmmmmmmm dools

The UNC game was last year. :yes:

[Nyghtewynd]

Lincoln. Lincoln? How could I ever have doubted MSU for this schedule? My bad. :rolleyes:

[TNMSUFAN]

Lincoln is part of the South Padre tournament...we have to play Delaware State and Lincoln to get to Wisconsin, Auburn, or Oklahoma State. South Padre added Lincoln not Missouri State.

[Nyghtewynd]

So what you're saying is that it's OK to play a D-II team (which essentially takes one of your finite number of game dates and throws it in the toilet) in order to play good teams, but it's not okay to play a one-off against a decent team in order to actually help your SOS and exposure (like when Barry turned down playing Maryland in a one-off in DC). I know Maryland's not who they used to be, but the name woulda been helpful.

[outpost]

Delaware State is part of the S. Padre tourney again? That would be the second straight year for them.

How can that happen?:confused1:

BTW - Shocks played them the day after Illinois......ended up winning something like 62-44 on the neutral court. Shouldn't be any problem for the Bears.

[TNMSUFAN]

You are putting words in my mouth Nyghtewynd...I didn't say jack about anything to do with Maryland. All I said was Lincoln is part of the South Padre tournament and that is why they are on the schedule.

On a separate not my feeling is, and will always be, you play anyone anywhere anytime. If Gary Williams wanted to play the one game in his back yard I would take it especially with the team we have coming back.

[TNMSUFAN]

Outpost, I thought the exempt tourney rule was dropped...I could be wrong though.

[MoValley John]

So what you're saying is that it's OK to play a D-II team (which essentially takes one of your finite number of game dates and throws it in the toilet) in order to play good teams, but it's not okay to play a one-off against a decent team in order to actually help your SOS and exposure (like when Barry turned down playing Maryland in a one-off in DC). I know Maryland's not who they used to be, but the name woulda been helpful.

You can't dictate every team in a tournament format. You can't criticize MSU for playing the tourney, the tourney has no bearing on how you complete the rest of your scheduling. It could be a good tune up game to get the Bears prepared to represent the Valley well in South Padre.

[-Z-]

Am I missing something or does the Indiana State schedule only have Northern Iowa on it once?

[outpost]

Outpost, I thought the exempt tourney rule was dropped...I could be wrong though.

Or you may be right. My point was that it seems a bit unusual for the same team to show up in the same in-season tourney in consecutive years.

[MSNSaluki]

A point that has been lost in all the scheduling talk is this: When the NCAA repealed the 2-in-4 exempt tournament rule, they also gave schools the opportunity to schedule two more games.

Of course, that's a huge deal for BCS schools. They can schedule two more patsies and generate more revenue.

While we're all excited about finally having the chance to play in exempt tournaments every year, we're seeing more Division 2 and 3 schools in those fields because many BCS schools aren't interested. Why would they be? Go to Puerto Rico and have a chance to get beat by Missouri State or Creighton or schedule Maryland-Baltimore County and Morgan State and make money?

Moral to the story: Everytime the NCAA makes a rule change it is to benefit BCS schools. If you don't believe that, you drink too much Kool-Aid.

[ISU87]

it's been corrected on the ISU schedule, UNI plays at ISU Feb. 5th I think.

Am I missing something or does the Indiana State schedule only have Northern Iowa on it once?

[ISU87]

2006-07 UNI Men's Basketball Schedule


<TABLE class=tablecontent width=500><TBODY><TR><TD>Date</TD><TD>Opponent</TD><TD>Site</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 1</TD><TD>Central (Exhibition)</TD><TD>West Gym</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 5</TD><TD>Southwest State (Exhibition)</TD><TD>West Gym</TD></TR>
<TR><TD>Nov. 12</TD><TD>#vs. Nicholls State</TD><TD>Seattle, Wash.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 13</TD><TD>#vs. Pepperdine</TD><TD>Seattle, Wash.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 14</TD><TD>#at Washington</TD><TD>Seattle, Wash.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 19</TD><TD>UW-Milwaukee</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 24</TD><TD>South Dakota State</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 29</TD><TD>Iowa State</TD><TD>UNI-Dome</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dec. 2</TD><TD>at Bucknell</TD><TD>Lewisburg, Pa.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dec. 5</TD><TD>at Iowa</TD><TD>Iowa City, Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dec. 9</TD><TD>UMKC</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dec. 16</TD><TD>at Loyola-Chicago</TD><TD>Chicago, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dec. 20</TD><TD>Wartburg</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD><TD><TR><TD>Dec. 27</TD><TD>Bradley</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD><TD><TR><TD>Dec. 30</TD><TD>at Wichita State</TD><TD>Wichita, Kan.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 3</TD><TD>Evansville</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 6</TD><TD>Southern Illinois</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 9</TD><TD>at Illinois State</TD><TD>Normal, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 12</TD><TD>Creighton</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 18</TD><TD>at Missouri State</TD><TD>Springfield, Mo.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 20</TD><TD>Indiana State</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 23</TD><TD>at Southern Illinois</TD><TD>Carbondale, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 27</TD><TD>at Drake</TD><TD>Des Moines, Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jan. 30</TD><TD>Wichita State</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 3</TD><TD>at Evansville</TD><TD>Evansville, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 5</TD><TD>at Indiana State</TD><TD>Terre Haute, Ind.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 8</TD><TD>Drake</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 10</TD><TD>Missouri State</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 13</TD><TD>at Creighton</TD><TD>Omaha, Neb.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 17</TD><TD>at ESPN BracketBusters</TD><TD>TBA</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 20</TD><TD>at Bradley</TD><TD>Peoria, Ill.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Feb. 24</TD><TD>Illinois State</TD><TD>McLeod Center</TD></TR><TR><TD>Mar. 1-4</TD><TD>at State Farm MVC Tournament</TD><TD>St. Louis, Mo.</TD></TR>
</TBODY></TABLE>
*Missouri Valley Conference game
#Basketball Travelers Classic - Seattle, Wash.
All times central and subject to change

[DoubleJayAlum]

Who is Wartburg?

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Who is Wartburg?

I think their star guards name is Harry Potter. I hear he can really fly.

[DUBulldog]

Who is Wartburg?

D-3 school in Waverly, Iowa

[valleyclimber]

Looks like UNI has a pretty challenging NC sched with only NichollsSt., South Dakota St. and UMKC being pretty-sure wins. Loyola-Chicago should make the Big Dance out of the Horizon and Pepperdine is traditionally good. Then you have last year's NCAA tourney teams Washington, Iowa, UW-Milwaukee and Bucknell plus the B12's Iowa State, and you have a schedule (that with some big wins) could really boost UNI's RPI.

And the Panthers should draw one of the better BB teams, so UNI is looking ship shape. If they don't have too much off a drop off from last year's play (if any?), then UNI should keep the MVC's RPI's as high, if not higher, than last season. COOL! :original:

:valley:

[CUJay]

Published Thursday
August 24, 2006

Shocker road trips cause buzz

BY STEVEN PIVOVAR
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER


Some of Creighton's Missouri Valley Conference brethren are discovering what the Bluejays and Dana Altman learned long ago.

Success one season can bring scheduling headaches the next.

Wichita State, which made the NCAA Sweet 16 last season, found itself on Aug. 1 needing to schedule four games. The Shockers cut that number in half by agreeing to a one-game deal to play at Syracuse this season and a three-game series with LSU, with two games in Louisiana.

"People don't understand how difficult scheduling has become," Valley Commissioner Doug Elgin said. "Dana has faced these difficulties for years. When you win as Creighton has, you develop a nasty reputation that scares people off.

"Bradley and Missouri State and Wichita State are finding that out this season."

Almost every Valley team still has a nonconference game or two to schedule. Creighton is still looking for an opponent for Dec. 2. Altman said the Jays would consider not playing if they can't find an opponent willing to play a home-and-home series.

"We will not play a 'buy' game," Altman said.

For years, Altman has championed what has become the league's unofficial party line: avoid scheduling two-for-one series with just one home game.

"I've never seen any directive from the league regarding those things," Illinois State coach Porter Moser said. "But we've had a lot of discussions about not playing guaranteed games or two-for-ones. A lot of it is perception. People can perceive that you're not a strong team or league if you're willing to accept those games."

That's one reason Wichita State raised eyebrows around the league when it announced its games against Syracuse and Louisiana State. The Shockers will play at LSU on Nov. 25, with the second game of the series set for the 2007-08 season in Wichita. The third game will be in 2008-09 at Shreveport, La.

A week after facing LSU, Wichita State travels to Syracuse for a Dec. 2 game. It's a one-game deal, with no return date set.

"I came off the road at the start of August and I had four games to schedule," Wichita State coach Mark Turgeon said. "My schedule was not where it needed to be in order to put us in position for an at-large berth if we didn't win the league (tournament) in St. Louis.

"I can't worry about what the other coaches or anyone else might think."

Turgeon said Wichita State is at a disadvantage in scheduling because the Shockers have to start anew almost every season.

"I can't get Kansas and Kansas State to play us," Turgeon said. "I don't have Nebraska or any of the Jesuit schools built into my schedule. I don't have Iowa and Iowa State having to play me each year.

"The guys with the teams built into their schedule are the ones talking about how we shouldn't do this or that. If I could play Kansas and Kansas State each year, I wouldn't be playing Syracuse for a buy."

Altman declined to comment when asked if Wichita State's recent schedule additions are good for the league. "Who am I to tell someone how to run their program?" he said.

Moser also had a diplomatic response.

"Everybody knows what kind of team Mark has coming back," Moser said. "Everybody knows the success he had last season.

"I'm not a big fan of two-for-ones, but if all of a sudden Illinois comes to me and wants to schedule one, I might have to swallow my words."

Elgin said the Valley's success last season has made scheduling even more difficult. The league placed four teams in the NCAA tournament for the first time and had two others in the National Invitation Tournament.

"The reality is that we are a top-six league," Moser said, "but people are not treating us like one in scheduling."

Elgin said the Valley in the future might look into scheduling agreements with leagues such as the Colonial, the Western Athletic and the Mid-American. Their teams are facing similar problems lining up home-and-home series.

Another solution, Elgin said, might be to ask the NCAA to require a certain number of true road games or a maximum number of home games.

Wichita State already had a game scheduled at Final Four qualifier George Mason as part of its obligation to return last season's Bracket Buster home contest. Adding LSU means Wichita State is the nation's only school that will play at least two returning Final Four teams.





Thanks, but no thanks

Creighton coach Dana Altman has a surefire, conversation-stopping response for schools that ask if the Bluejays want to schedule a "buy" game - a road game with no chance of a return home date.

"I usually say, 'How much do you want?'" Altman said. "We draw better than most of the schools that want to buy us, so I figure we might as well play at our place.

"Usually, I usually don't get a response. Or else I hear a click."

[rjl]

Another solution, Elgin said, might be to ask the NCAA to require a certain number of true road games or a maximum number of home games.


In my honest opinion, this is the only thing that will allow us to play top 25 teams in balanced series on a semi-regular basis.

Even then, who says they just wont play other top25 BCS teams from other conferences?

Good article, though. Thanks for posting.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

"I can't worry about what the other coaches or anyone else might think."

Turgeon said Wichita State is at a disadvantage in scheduling because the Shockers have to start anew almost every season.

"I can't get Kansas and Kansas State to play us," Turgeon said. "I don't have Nebraska or any of the Jesuit schools built into my schedule. I don't have Iowa and Iowa State having to play me each year.

"The guys with the teams built into their schedule are the ones talking about how we shouldn't do this or that. If I could play Kansas and Kansas State each year, I wouldn't be playing Syracuse for a buy."


:grin: :clap: Awesome!! This is why I love Coach Turg. Nobody else wants to stand up to GodAltGod. Turg says I don't give an Eff what the other schools do, I am doing what I think is best for WSU. Way to go Turg.

:shockers: :shockers: :shockers: :shockers: :shockers:

:horse:
:jays:

:horse:
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[Jayball]

Uh, while I agree Turg has to do what's best for the Shockers, part of that statement is just wrong.

We don't have any Jesuit schools "built" into the schedule. We are in the middle of a four year deal to play Xaveir. That's it. That's the only Jesuit school. The only way that happened was the late president of Xavier used to be at CU. Prior to that we had no Jesuit schools. Since CU has won the past two meetings (and Father Hoff now deceased) we'll see if it is renewed after next year.

Nebraska is the only team "built" into the schedule.

[JVShocker]

I'm still in favor of both the 2-1 LSU and 1-0 Syracuse games. If either team is receiving early votes or press and we play well, we make BIG NEWS on Sportcenter. If somehow the Shocks find a way to win both places, Turgeon looks like a genius and the Shocks may be ranked, maybe even peeking in at the Top 10 (you think Shocker fans are cocky and annoying now? Sheesh Valleytalk will become a living nightmare!). :cursing:

I think it's great that Creighton got Xavier, but a Creighton win over Xavier won't bring nearly as much press even if it is a good win.

And no offense, but I don't really care what Porter Moser thinks of WSU's scheduling philosophies. They should have just asked Royce Waltman. :wheelchair:

[DoubleJayAlum]

:grin: :clap: Awesome!! This is why I love Coach Turg. Nobody else wants to stand up to GodAltGod. Turg says I don't give an Eff what the other schools do, I am doing what I think is best for WSU. Way to go Turg.

:shockers: :shockers: :shockers: :shockers: :shockers:

:horse:
:jays:

:horse:
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You may love the comment, but it really is just further evidence of how clueless Turg is about the scheduling process (it also seems pretty whiny to me...). CU does not have any Jesuit schools built into their schedule. Xavier is on the schedule as part of a negotiated four year deal between the schools. Its the benefit of scheduling multi-year arrangements with other schools instead of trying to put together up a complete schedule each year!

By the way, doesn't WSu have Rockhurst on the schedule? It looks like WSU has just as many Jesuit schools "built into their schedule" as Cu does. :lol:

If this is what Turgeon really believes is the case, I am beginning to understand why he has such difficulty scheduling....and may be getting outmaneuvered by schools like Wyoming. Sheesh.

[rjl]

You may love the comment, but it really is just further evidence of how clueless Turg is about the scheduling process (it also seems pretty whiny to me...). CU does not have any Jesuit schools built into their schedule. Xavier is on the schedule as part of a negotiated four year deal between the schools. Its the benefit of scheduling multi-year arrangements with other schools instead of trying to put together up a complete schedule each year!

By the way, doesn't WSu have Rockhurst on the schedule? It looks like WSU has just as many Jesuit schools "built into their schedule" as Cu does. :lol:

If this is what Turgeon really believes is the case, I am beginning to understand why he has such difficulty scheduling....and may be getting outmaneuvered by schools like Wyoming. Sheesh.

How clueless would Turg have been to follow a scheduling philosophy that's never worked?

If Xavier was the top non-conference team on our schedule this year, I'd be very testy too.

[DoubleJayAlum]

How clueless would Turg have been to follow a scheduling philosophy that's never worked?

If Xavier was the top non-conference team on our schedule this year, I'd be very testy too.

I'm not being "testy'. I'm just pointing out that turgeon doesn't know what he is talking about....that's all.

[rjl]

I'm not being "testy'. I'm just pointing out that turgeon doesn't know what he is talking about....that's all.

Well, that's where we disagree.

And guess what, as the guy who's making WSU's schedule, I'd bet Turgeon knows one HELL of alot more about WSU's schedule than anyone on this board.

[Nyghtewynd]

Regardless of what you think about buy games, I'd rather schedule like the Turg, who seems willing to do the things necessary to get into the tournament, rather than other schools which are still scheduling by rules that didn't work seven years ago and still don't work today.

[cufan]

Well you should at least request that WSU drop the ticket price for the non-conference schedule to about five bucks a game, because that's about all those games are worth. But you guys enjoy.

[dogdays]

You know...WSU aint changin their minds and CU and SIU arent gonna change theirs...so the proof will be in the pudding for the Shockers...we wll see in a couple of years how their schedule looks when they have to make up the home games they lost...it may work..time will tell...but to those who say" the other way" hasnt worked....well you just arent being honest with yourselves..SIU has four at large bids in a row before this year...it is based on their philosophy of scheduling...this year SIU has two, possibly 4 BCS schools on its schedule...one on the road(with the return next year ) and the other two or three on real neutral floors...I still dont get how WSU fans or Turg for that matter can say that somehow SIU's way is not working...two possibly 4 bcs games. And not one one and done or two for one in the bunch...WSU's way may work for them but SIU's has clearly worked for the Salukis...and continues to.....

[WSUbballer]

You know...WSU aint changin their minds and CU and SIU arent gonna change theirs...so the proof will be in the pudding for the Shockers...we wll see in a couple of years how their schedule looks when they have to make up the home games they lost...it may work..time will tell...but to those who say" the other way" hasnt worked....well you just arent being honest with yourselves..SIU has four at large bids in a row before this year...it is based on their philosophy of scheduling...this year SIU has two, possibly 4 BCS schools on its schedule...one on the road(with the return next year ) and the other two or three on real neutral floors...I still dont get how WSU fans or Turg for that matter can say that somehow SIU's way is not working...two possibly 4 bcs games. And not one one and done or two for one in the bunch...WSU's way may work for them but SIU's has clearly worked for the Salukis...and continues to.....
You're arguing about two different points. No one's saying SIU isn't gettin the job done. But your home schedule isn't really anything to be chest-thumping about either. SIU is gonna do it their way. WSU is gonna do it their way. If both make the tourney, then why b*tch about it?

[WSUbballer]

Well you should at least request that WSU drop the ticket price for the non-conference schedule to about five bucks a game, because that's about all those games are worth. But you guys enjoy.
Did CU drop those ticket prices for the NIT games last year?

[Bird]

Wow, clever come back! :no:

[SiuCubFan8]

You're arguing about two different points. No one's saying SIU isn't gettin the job done. But your home schedule isn't really anything to be chest-thumping about either. SIU is gonna do it their way. WSU is gonna do it their way. If both make the tourney, then why b*tch about it?

What does WSUs home schedule look like this year? :doh:

[cufan]

Do you mean the home game against BCS school Miami Hurricanes?

[outpost]

Do you mean the home game against BCS school Miami Hurricanes?

Not like that didn't happen in Wichita before......I mean the BCS school visit. Let's see, Florida State....Houston (Penders likes to think they are anyway), Providence....

BTW - Thanks for the vote of confidence, Nyghtwynd!

[WSUbballer]

What does WSUs home schedule look like this year? :doh:
Again, I'm not defending the "puddiness" of WSU's schedule. SIU's seems to be generally unappealing to me as well. My point - 2 scheduling methods = same results.

[WSUbballer]

Wow, clever come back! :no:
It was clever enough to invoke a response back from ya... (which was just as weak if I might add)...

[Bird]

Do you mean the home game against BCS school Miami Hurricanes?

Please don't try to brag about a BCS school coming to the Qwest as part of the NIT. It was the NIT. Only WSU fans brag about a home game in the NIT.

[WSUbballer]

Please don't try to brag about a BCS school coming to the Qwest as part of the NIT. It was the NIT. Only Cold brags about a home game in the NIT.
Fixed. Please don't group an individual with a mass audience.

[dogdays]

Yes I was arguing two different points , as it was clearly stated in the opeing sentences of my post. Agreed that this years home schedule leaves a bit to be desired, though next years is exceptional ...however I dont agree that its diff methods with the same results...the opportunity to win on a neutral site is greater than the opportunity to win on the opponets home floor..that is , in a nutshell one big difference...lastly, and this is where we all just dont agree. is that by caving in and playing 2 for ones we insure that we will never get one for ones ...we are selling ourselves short...now, agreed if we win its big news...but if we lose...its a loss and a guarantee that we will never get that team in our own house because they know they can buy us...giving them a good rpi game but with a great chance to win and little chance of losing.....time will tell if WSU is successful with taking buy games...both from a status standpoint and a home schedule standpoint over the next two to three years...and we shouldnt leave Bradley out of this equation either..they are doing the same thing...

[Bird]

Fixed. Please don't group an individual with a mass audience.

My mistake - I couldn't remember who it was specifically - I should have known it was Cold.

[AceFan]

ACC, Big 12 Opponents Highlight Aces' Basketball Schedule

The Miami Hurricanes from the Atlantic Coast Conference and Missouri Tigers from the Big 12 highlight the 2006-07 non-conference schedule for the University of Evansville men’s basketball team.

The Purple Aces’ schedule also includes an exhibition game against nearby Kentucky Wesleyan College, and the resumption of multi-year series with in-state rivals Butler and Valparaiso. The 18-game Missouri Valley Conference schedule once again features two games against each of the other nine MVC schools. The MVC was the nation’s fifth highest rated Division I conference last season, and sent six teams to post-season play, including Sweet 16 Wichita State and Bradley.

"We are very pleased with the way our schedule has worked out,” said coach Steve Merfeld. “Scheduling has become extremely difficult. The success that the Missouri Valley Conference has experienced recently has made this process even more difficult. We are excited about opening our home season against an ACC team in Miami, and have mixed in a road contest against Big 12 opponent Missouri. There is great balance in this year's schedule in knowing that we will be playing six non-conference games at Roberts Stadium and six very difficult road games."

Miami will come to Roberts Stadium for the Amerca’s Youth Classic November 17-19 along with Cleveland State and Buffalo. Proceeds will benefit the Eddie Robinson Foundation. The tournament includes two games on each of the three days. Evansville will play its first regular season home game in the opening round against Miami on Friday night, and play Cleveland State Saturday and Buffalo Sunday. Miami reached the third round of the NIT last March, defeating Oklahoma State at home and Creighton on the road before losing at Michigan in the quarterfinals to finish with an 18-16 record. Evansville’s last game against the ACC came in 1993-94 when the Aces beat Clemson 81-80 in the Kraft Rainbow Classic at Honolulu. UE’s most recent home game against an ACC school was in the 1989-90 home opener against Wake Forest, in which the Demon Deacons won 69-64 in overtime. Buffalo is coming off a 19-13 season and Cleveland State was 10-18 last season.

Evansville plays at Missouri on Sunday, December 3. It will be the first match-up against a Big 12 team since the Aces played Kansas in the opening round of the 1999 NCAA Tournament at New Orleans. The Tigers are coming off a 12-16 season, and will be in their first year under coach Mike Anderson.

The announcement of the November 8 exhibition game against Kentucky Wesleyan completes a strictly Tri-State exhibition season for the Purple Aces. UE announced last month that the Aces will play the University of Southern Indiana in the second Vectren Community Classic November 4 at Roberts Stadium. The first game between the two crosstown colleges drew a sell-out crowd two years ago. Kentucky Wesleyan and USI are NCAA Division II schools that compete in the Great Lakes Valley Conference. Evansville and Kentucky Wesleyan accounted for some of the largest basketball crowds in Roberts Stadium history when both were perennial Division II national title contenders in the 1950s and 1960s. Their most recent meeting came in 1986-87 when the Division I Aces edged the Division II Panthers 74-71 at Roberts Stadium.

The Valparaiso series is for two years, and resumes with a game at Roberts Stadium December 5. Evansville’s last game against Valpo came in the 1999-00 Hoop & Quill tournament at Charles, Mo. in which Evansville won 71-66. Valpo was 17-12 last season.

UE has signed a four-year contract with Butler, beginning with a game at Hinkle Fieldhouse in Indianapolis December 22. The most recent game against Butler came in 2003-04 when the Bulldogs edged the Aces 65-64. Butler will be the third UE non-conference opponent that played in the 2006 NIT, along with Miami and Lipscomb. Butler beat Miami of Ohio in its first NIT game and then dropped a four-point game at Florida State in the second round, 67-63, to finish with a 20-13 record.

Other games on the Aces’ non-conference schedule include a home-and-home series at Lipscomb, featuring the regular season opener Nov. 13 at Nashville followed by a game at Roberts Stadium on Saturday, Dec. 16. Lipscomb was 21-11 last season and reached the NIT after falling in the championship game of the Atlantic Sun Conference tournament. Following the America’s Youth Classic, Evansville hosts Southeast Missouri on Nov. 27 and plays at Tennessee-Martin Nov. 29 before going to Missouri the first weekend of December. Home games with Valparaiso and Lipscomb follow, and the Aces go on the road December 18 to play Austin Peay and December 22 at Butler. One additional non-conference road game is the fourth annual ESPN BracketBusters on February 17. BracketBusters pairings will be made around Feb. 1.

Evansville’s Missouri Valley Conference home schedule is one of the best in years, thanks to six weekend games among the nine at Roberts Stadium. The conference schedule is also more spread out this season, with two home games in December (Illinois State, Drake), four in January (Creighton, Southern Illinois, Missouri State, Wichita State) and three in February (Northern Iowa, Indiana State, Bradley). The annual State Farm MVC Tournament takes place March 1-4 at Savvis Center in St. Louis, with the championship game televised by CBS nationally for the second year in a row.

2006-07 UNIVERSITY OF EVANSVILLE MEN’S BASKETBALL SCHEDULE

Saturday Nov. 4 USI (Exhibition)

Wednesday Nov. 8 Kentucky Wesleyan (Exhibition)

Monday Nov. 13 At Lipscomb

AMERICA'S YOUTH CLASSIC
Friday Nov. 17 UE VS. MIAMI, FLA.
Buffalo vs. Cleveland State
Saturday Nov. 18 UE VS. CLEVELAND STATE
Buffalo vs. Miami, Fla.
Sunday Nov. 19 Cleveland State vs. Miami, Fla.
UE VS. BUFFALO

Monday Nov. 27 SOUTHEAST MISSOURI

Wednesday Nov. 29 At Tennessee-Martin

Sunday Dec. 3 At Missouri

Tuesday Dec. 5 VALPARAISO

Saturday Dec. 9 •ILLINOIS STATE

Saturday Dec. 16 LIPSCOMB

Monday Dec. 18 At Austin Peay

Friday Dec. 22 At Butler

Thursday Dec. 28 •DRAKE

Saturday Dec. 30 •At Bradley

Wednesday Jan. 3 •At Northern Iowa

Saturday Jan. 6 •CREIGHTON

Tuesday Jan. 9 •At Missouri State

Saturday Jan. 13 •At Wichita State

Wednesday Jan. 17 •SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

Sunday Jan. 21 •MISSOURI STATE

Wednesday Jan. 24 •At Indiana State

Saturday Jan. 27 •WICHITA STATE

Tuesday Jan. 30 •At Illinois State

Saturday Feb. 3 •NORTHERN IOWA

Wednesday Feb. 7 •At Creighton

Sunday Feb. 11 •INDIANA STATE

Wednesday Feb. 14 •BRADLEY

Saturday Feb. 17 At ESPN BracketBusters (opponent TBA)

Wednesday Feb. 21 •At Drake

Saturday Feb. 24 •At Southern Illinois

Thu.-Sun. March 1-4 State Farm MVC Tournament at St. Louis, Mo.

[ISU87]

Drake? Creighton? WSU? any schedules?

[DUBulldog]

Drake? Creighton? WSU? any schedules?

Drake's will probably be the last to release a schedule....we usually figure out our schedule by piecing together where we are on our opponents schedules:original:

[TrueBlueJay]

Drake's will probably be the last to release a schedule....we usually figure out our schedule by piecing together where we are on our opponents schedules:original:

Bet you a drink Creighton's comes out after Drake's.:bulldogs: :jays:

[WuDrWu]

You may love the comment, but it really is just further evidence of how clueless Turg is about the scheduling process (it also seems pretty whiny to me...). CU does not have any Jesuit schools built into their schedule. Xavier is on the schedule as part of a negotiated four year deal between the schools. Its the benefit of scheduling multi-year arrangements with other schools instead of trying to put together up a complete schedule each year!

By the way, doesn't WSu have Rockhurst on the schedule? It looks like WSU has just as many Jesuit schools "built into their schedule" as Cu does. :lol:

If this is what Turgeon really believes is the case, I am beginning to understand why he has such difficulty scheduling....and may be getting outmaneuvered by schools like Wyoming. Sheesh.


Clueless describes, no defines you. We are going to Wyoming this year for a REASON, I promise you. Stop the presses, WSU AD to rethink the new contact on Mark because DJA says Turg doesn't understand how to schedule!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is one of the best quotes from the MT era. He is done playing second fiddle to anyone. There's a new sheriff in town boys. Feel free to poke fun at him all you want, he already has what you whine for, BJ.


For the record, I like MSU's schedule, I like SIU's schedule and CU's schedule is too weak for their previous success and returning talent. The only problem I have with WSU's schedule is that if we are going to play the holiday tournament with the 2 cupcakes (like last year) then those are the only cupcakes. Other games must be at least like NWState (which can be done).

[WuDrWu]

Acefan,

I like you schedule as well but for crying out loud don't tell me Lipscomb joined the Valley this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TNMSUFAN]

Good Lord how about this stretch for the Aces

Saturday Dec. 30 •At Bradley
Wednesday Jan. 3 •At Northern Iowa
Saturday Jan. 6 •CREIGHTON
Tuesday Jan. 9 •At Missouri State
Saturday Jan. 13 •At Wichita State
Wednesday Jan. 17 •SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
Sunday Jan. 21 •MISSOURI STATE

[DUBulldog]

Bet you a drink Creighton's comes out after Drake's.:bulldogs: :jays:

Let's make it two drinks.:cheers: I won't fail to pay off my beer debts like some other un-named Drake fan :innocent:

[AceFan]

WuDrWu.....The Aces have a tendency to schedule one OOC opponent a home and away game in the same season. If my memory is correct, two years ago it was with Illinois Chicago and last year it was Marshall. At least this year there is some time between the two games. The past two years those games were scheduled really close together. :aces:

[WuDrWu]

I remember the last 2 UIC, ok, Marshall....eh, ok.......but Lipscomb????!!!!

I am not blaming EU btw, but it just goes to show how rediculous scheduling is these days. It just shouldn't be like this.

I hope your young guys get some success early or it might be a tough year. A little bump could go a long way towards a good finish in conference.


Best of luck!

[Ace Happy]

Good Lord how about this stretch for the Aces

Saturday Dec. 30 •At Bradley
Wednesday Jan. 3 •At Northern Iowa
Saturday Jan. 6 •CREIGHTON
Tuesday Jan. 9 •At Missouri State
Saturday Jan. 13 •At Wichita State
Wednesday Jan. 17 •SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
Sunday Jan. 21 •MISSOURI STATE

That WILL be one painful stretch. At least this year, we have an experienced team to take on the challenge.

[Phantom]

Whats with several Valley teams having games on New Years Day (going head to head with Bowl games), and on Sunday Jan 21st (going head to head with the NFL Conference Championship games?) :noexpression:

[brokeback shocker]

Published Thursday
August 24, 2006

Shocker road trips cause buzz

BY STEVEN PIVOVAR
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER


Some of Creighton's Missouri Valley Conference brethren are discovering what the Bluejays and Dana Altman learned long ago.

Success one season can bring scheduling headaches the next.

Wichita State, which made the NCAA Sweet 16 last season, found itself on Aug. 1 needing to schedule four games. The Shockers cut that number in half by agreeing to a one-game deal to play at Syracuse this season and a three-game series with LSU, with two games in Louisiana.

"People don't understand how difficult scheduling has become," Valley Commissioner Doug Elgin said. "Dana has faced these difficulties for years. When you win as Creighton has, you develop a nasty reputation that scares people off.

"Bradley and Missouri State and Wichita State are finding that out this season."

Almost every Valley team still has a nonconference game or two to schedule. Creighton is still looking for an opponent for Dec. 2. Altman said the Jays would consider not playing if they can't find an opponent willing to play a home-and-home series.

"We will not play a 'buy' game," Altman said.

For years, Altman has championed what has become the league's unofficial party line: avoid scheduling two-for-one series with just one home game.

"I've never seen any directive from the league regarding those things," Illinois State coach Porter Moser said. "But we've had a lot of discussions about not playing guaranteed games or two-for-ones. A lot of it is perception. People can perceive that you're not a strong team or league if you're willing to accept those games."

That's one reason Wichita State raised eyebrows around the league when it announced its games against Syracuse and Louisiana State. The Shockers will play at LSU on Nov. 25, with the second game of the series set for the 2007-08 season in Wichita. The third game will be in 2008-09 at Shreveport, La.

A week after facing LSU, Wichita State travels to Syracuse for a Dec. 2 game. It's a one-game deal, with no return date set.

"I came off the road at the start of August and I had four games to schedule," Wichita State coach Mark Turgeon said. "My schedule was not where it needed to be in order to put us in position for an at-large berth if we didn't win the league (tournament) in St. Louis.

"I can't worry about what the other coaches or anyone else might think."

Turgeon said Wichita State is at a disadvantage in scheduling because the Shockers have to start anew almost every season.

"I can't get Kansas and Kansas State to play us," Turgeon said. "I don't have Nebraska or any of the Jesuit schools built into my schedule. I don't have Iowa and Iowa State having to play me each year.

"The guys with the teams built into their schedule are the ones talking about how we shouldn't do this or that. If I could play Kansas and Kansas State each year, I wouldn't be playing Syracuse for a buy."

Altman declined to comment when asked if Wichita State's recent schedule additions are good for the league. "Who am I to tell someone how to run their program?" he said.

Moser also had a diplomatic response.

"Everybody knows what kind of team Mark has coming back," Moser said. "Everybody knows the success he had last season.

"I'm not a big fan of two-for-ones, but if all of a sudden Illinois comes to me and wants to schedule one, I might have to swallow my words."

Elgin said the Valley's success last season has made scheduling even more difficult. The league placed four teams in the NCAA tournament for the first time and had two others in the National Invitation Tournament.

"The reality is that we are a top-six league," Moser said, "but people are not treating us like one in scheduling."

Elgin said the Valley in the future might look into scheduling agreements with leagues such as the Colonial, the Western Athletic and the Mid-American. Their teams are facing similar problems lining up home-and-home series.

Another solution, Elgin said, might be to ask the NCAA to require a certain number of true road games or a maximum number of home games.

Wichita State already had a game scheduled at Final Four qualifier George Mason as part of its obligation to return last season's Bracket Buster home contest. Adding LSU means Wichita State is the nation's only school that will play at least two returning Final Four teams.





Thanks, but no thanks

Creighton coach Dana Altman has a surefire, conversation-stopping response for schools that ask if the Bluejays want to schedule a "buy" game - a road game with no chance of a return home date.

"I usually say, 'How much do you want?'" Altman said. "We draw better than most of the schools that want to buy us, so I figure we might as well play at our place.

"Usually, I usually don't get a response. Or else I hear a click."

Interesting that there weren't too many comments on this. This is a direct shot right at Altman and his hoity toity attitude from Turgeon and Turgeon is right.

Altman can pontificate all he wants but Turgeon has to worry about getting an at large bid.

[outpost]

WuDrWu.....The Aces have a tendency to schedule one OOC opponent a home and away game in the same season. If my memory is correct, two years ago it was with Illinois Chicago and last year it was Marshall. At least this year there is some time between the two games. The past two years those games were scheduled really close together. :aces:

Intercepting this response...Back in the early 1970's WSU had at least one home and home series with Kansas State - in the same season, although I can't remember the particular year. We may have also had one with Nebraska or Colorado around that time. Now we're going on at least a decade since we've played Nebraska, and probably about 3 decades since Colorado. It doesn't look much better for renewing anything with KSU.

Before anyone attacks this, it has little - if anything - to do with the recent scheduling philosophies of Coach Turgeon. It's 99% due to elitist attitudes of the Big XII (former Big 8) schools.

[Jayball]

Interesting that there weren't too many comments on this. This is a direct shot right at Altman and his hoity toity attitude from Turgeon and Turgeon is right.

Altman can pontificate all he wants but Turgeon has to worry about getting an at large bid.


Um, to me it sounds like Turgeon is defensive and frustrated. With four games left to schedule I can see how that would happen.

But, I don't quite get how Altman is hoity toity to Turgeon. Altman has his scheduling philosophies and has talked to other coaches in the league about them. Even so, other coaches have done 1 and done deals for their own programs. (MSU and Arkansas) Altman doesn't publically attack anyone if they don't do it his way. Did you see the quote about "Who am I to tell someone else to run their program?"

Every Valley team has to worry about positioning itself for an at large bid in case they don't win the tourney. Turgeon is doing what he has to this year, but even he states that he wouldn't be doing what he's doing if he could get a local BCS team to play them 1-1.

[rjl]

An interesting wrinkle in the WSU, Wyoming game is that it looks like it will be in Casper, not Laramie, for the "Wyoming Shootout".

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/sports/more.asp?StoryID=108674

Not sure if that classifies it as a neutral game or not.

Looks like the format of the Shootout is basically a doulbe header, with the UW girls playing a team, and then the UW men.

[cufan]

The guys with the teams built into their schedule are the ones talking about how we shouldn't do this or that. If I could play Kansas and Kansas State each year, I wouldn't be playing Syracuse for a buy."


Wait a minute. What is this? I thought the WSU way was to play anyone, anywhere. This sounds a lot more like we had to take the 2fer and one and done with Syracuse because its August and I still have four games left to schedule.

So, it really is as many of us outside the emerald city have been saying.
Turg's philosphy isn't "we'll play anyone anywhere becuase that's how you make your program better." It looks like his philosophy is "I'm tired of this scheduling crap so I'll take a couple of buy games and be done with it."

By the way, CU has one team "built into its schedule" and it isn't a given by any means. Collier tried valantly to get the game removed from his schedule. But, its there for now because enough fans demand it- plus the fact that a prominent booster of both schools likes sitting courtside at the games in his half Creighton, half Nebraska wind jacket custom made just for the event.

[Shox21]

Wait a minute. What is this? I thought the WSU way was to play anyone, anywhere. This sounds a lot more like we had to take the 2fer and one and done with Syracuse because its August and I still have four games left to schedule.

So, it really is as many of us outside the emerald city have been saying.
Turg's philosphy isn't "we'll play anyone anywhere becuase that's how you make your program better." It looks like his philosophy is "I'm tired of this scheduling crap so I'll take a couple of buy games and be done with it."

By the way, CU has one team "built into its schedule" and it isn't a given by any means. Collier tried valantly to get the game removed from his schedule. But, its there for now because enough fans demand it- plus the fact that a prominent booster of both schools likes sitting courtside at the games in his half Creighton, half Nebraska wind jacket custom made just for the event.


Actually I think it's more like: We can't FORCE KU and KSUto play us each year -- so in order to make our program better, we'll play anyone, anywhere (as long as that team CAN make our program better).

[CUJay]

An interesting wrinkle in the WSU, Wyoming game is that it looks like it will be in Casper, not Laramie, for the "Wyoming Shootout".

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/sports/more.asp?StoryID=108674

Not sure if that classifies it as a neutral game or not.

Looks like the format of the Shootout is basically a doulbe header, with the UW girls playing a team, and then the UW men.

If the Wyoming game was in Topeka, would you consider that a neutral game? I think not. A game is Casper is not even close to a "neutral" game.

[outpost]

A year or two ago, K-State played Wyoming in Casper. It was referred to as a neutral court game several times.

It ain't on their campus...really not even all that close, so you can debate this until you're blue in the face....oh :cry: ....wait a minute, you're probably already blue in the face.

[CUJay]

A year or two ago, K-State played Wyoming in Casper. It was referred to as a neutral court game several times.

It ain't on their campus...really not even all that close, so you can debate this until you're blue in the face....oh :cry: ....wait a minute, you're probably already blue in the face.

If the Wyoming game was in Topeka, would you consider that a neutral game?

[Jayball]

any game not played on a teams home floor is considered a "netural" court

Obviously how neutral vaires, but Casper is still a neutral site game.

[TrueBlueJay]

It will be considered a neutral game as far as the RPI goes, and that really is too bad for WSU because it will be more of an away game for them (pro-WYO crowd). The RPI considers road victories to be worth more than neutral victories (and yes, I assume you are going to win).

:shockers:

[outpost]

If the Wyoming game was in Topeka, would you consider that a neutral game?

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier.

Yes I would.......Topeka is a snake's lair full of KU and KSU fans......ambivalent, indifferent and apathetic to anything related to WSU. Plus, it's the home of Washburn University, an up and coming NCAA D2 program.

There's virtually no chance that WSU would ever play there. Topeka and Wichita have a rivalry that's been similar in recent years to that between Omaha and Wichita on ValleyTalk this summer. But instead of drive-by posters trading insults, it is elected officials taking potshots at each other.

[rjl]

If the Wyoming game was in Topeka, would you consider that a neutral game?

The technical deliniation between neutral and non neutral games is how ticket revenue is split.

I know you think you've got some special point there, Sherlock, but I was just pointing out that this may technically be a Neutral and one series, and not a one and one.

[DoubleJayAlum]

There's virtually no chance that WSU would ever play there. Topeka and Wichita have a rivalry that's been similar in recent years to that between Omaha and Wichita on ValleyTalk this summer. But instead of drive-by posters trading insults, it is elected officials taking potshots at each other.

Is there anyone that Wichitans get along with? :naughty:

[outpost]

Is there anyone that Wichitans get along with? :naughty:

I'm an ambassador for Wichita wherever I go, DoubleJay.

Unfortunately, I've got a job that doesn't allow me to travel very much** when I would like to (and when my wife and kids can, too). So, other than the Valley tourney and an isolated trip to Missouri, or Kentucky, or Oklahoma City, I haven't gotten out much.

**Thankfully, this is about to change.

[Aces101]

Good schedule for the Aces.....I am pleased. I guess the administration finally listened to my suggestion that UE plays both USI and Kentucky Wesleyan in exhibition play. Those teams are top 10-20 in Div 2 every year. They will provide a good game + draw 10,000-12,000 fans per game. People may bash playing Lipscomb 2 times, but they were an NIT team last year.

[TrueBlueJay]

Let's make it two drinks.:cheers: I won't fail to pay off my beer debts like some other un-named Drake fan :innocent:

DUB - looks like you owe me a couple drinks. May have to be in Des Moines since CU is there on a Saturday night. Drake at CU on a Tuesday? That sucks for you.

[DUBulldog]

DUB - looks like you owe me a couple drinks. May have to be in Des Moines since CU is there on a Saturday night. Drake at CU on a Tuesday? That sucks for you.

I do? I haven't seen Drake's schedule yet.....and I just checked CU's website....no schedule there either.....looks like this here bet hasn't been decided yet.

That does suck that Drake is in Omaha on a Tuesday night....I always looked forward to those Omaha trips....even if the trip home was never much fun :original:

[DUBulldog]

Drake's schedule has been released:

link (http://www.drakebulldogs.org/mensbasketball/schedule.php)

TBJ....looks like I owe you a couple of beers :cheers:

[bears1]

Thats a good schedule Drake has put out. Iowa, Iowas st, Toledo,UTEP and mabey Rhode Island. All good names. Good Job Dr. Tom.

[shockball]

Drake's schedule has been released:

link (http://www.drakebulldogs.org/mensbasketball/schedule.php)

TBJ....looks like I owe you a couple of beers :cheers:


DUBulldog

I'll give you three beers if you screw him out of it.
jk

[valleyclimber]

DUBulldog, any predictions on DU's OCC record? Lot's of good opponents. Are the Bulldogs home or away for the BB? Could be the year Dr. Tom turns things around in Des Moines! With alot of winnable games, I'm guessing (BB included) possibly 9-3 or 10-2. Of course, that's if DU gels with Korver back in the lineup.

I'm rooting for Dr. Tom in his last season. What do you think of his son taking over for him? :original:

[DUBulldog]

DUBulldog, any predictions on DU's OCC record? Lot's of good opponents. Are the Bulldogs home or away for the BB? Could be the year Dr. Tom turns things around in Des Moines! With alot of winnable games, I'm guessing (BB included) possibly 9-3 or 10-2. Of course, that's if DU gels with Korver back in the lineup.

I'm rooting for Dr. Tom in his last season. What do you think of his son taking over for him? :original:

I'm predicting 8-4 for OOC....bracket buster is at home this year.

As far as his son taking over, I've got mixed feelings. It provides some continuity and makes recruiting easier.....players don't have to wonder who their coach will be 2-3 years down the road. But, he's a totally unproven commodity as a head coach. I'm sure he knows "the system" inside and out, but being able to teach it and being able to recruit are unknowns at this point.

[WSUfan]

If Drake beats Iowa and Iowa State, this would be great! (Feel free to take out Duke & Kansas if you run into them. :yes: :naughty: )

[valleyclimber]

DUBulldog, thanks for your OCC record prediction and your thoughts on Dr. Tom's son taking over the reigns.

If the Bulldogs can beat Utah St., I think they could win the Top of the World Classic. Also having Iowa at home is good because if there's a year to beat the Hawkeyes, I think it's this season. The Cyclones on the road will be a good test, but they will have their problems early in the season. Sooooo...that leaves UTEP in their own tourney and the BB game as my other two questionables. I'm marking down a loss to the Miners, but a win over DU's BB opponent.

I understand it's better to err on the side of caution, but I really think the Bulldogs could making some hay NC. I'd love to see the good Dr. Tom back in the Big Dance for his swan song! :yes:

[boilershock]

For those Creighton fans who would like to know your home portion of the schedule go to:

http://www.qwestcenter.com

Look under the calendar link and go through the months.


:shockers:

[MoValley John]

Thanks for the info. I looked at the schedule and something popped up. The game against SIU has an exclamation point indicating a rvalry, the WSU game does not. As I've said before, this game is not a rivalry and only a few people here on VT think otherwise.

[DJShocker10]

Thanks for the info. I looked at the schedule and something popped up. The game against SIU has an exclamation point indicating a rvalry, the WSU game does not. As I've said before, this game is not a rivalry and only a few people here on VT think otherwise.

I don't really consider it a rivalry, but here in 5-10 years it very well could be.

[MoValley John]

I don't really consider it a rivalry, but here in 5-10 years it very well could be.

I would totally agree, but it's also far from what it is portrayed on this board.

[WSUfan]

Thanks for the info. I looked at the schedule and something popped up. The game against SIU has an exclamation point indicating a rvalry, the WSU game does not. As I've said before, this game is not a rivalry and only a few people here on VT think otherwise.
WSU never has a chance against CU. It's so bad, CU fans could just skip the WSU@CU game. In fact, feel free to do just that. :innocent:

[mid-major fan]

According to Andy Katz's column today, Wichita, Missouri State and Creighton are all still looking for a game per the MVC office. They would prefer a home game but will go on the road given the right circumstances per Katz.

[cufan]

What the calendar doesn't show is that the bracket buster Saturday again coincides with the state wrestling tournament, which means a night game for sure and quite possibly another 11:05 tip-off. Can't wait.

[LincolnJay]

Interesting, the BB game shows at 9pm on the Qwest site. However, the WSU game shows at 7pm and I know for a fact that it is a 4pm game for TV so nothing is in stone.

[dogdays]

The BB game times are not set until the matchups are released..it depends on who is playing where and who and when ESPN wants on at what times...they wont know until the season plays out...

[MSNSaluki]

According to Andy Katz's column today, Wichita, Missouri State and Creighton are all still looking for a game per the MVC office. They would prefer a home game but will go on the road given the right circumstances per Katz.


Wichita, Missouri State and CU ought to call the SIU basketball office.
I'm sure Lowery can give them the numbers of three or four D-3 schools the Salukis eliminated from consideration before signing up Washington U.:cursing: :cursing:

[LincolnJay]

The BB game times are not set until the matchups are released..it depends on who is playing where and who and when ESPN wants on at what times...they wont know until the season plays out...

True, but CU is playing at home and the state high school wrestling championships are at the Qwest during a lot of the day so CU will play at 9pm or 11pm...period. I'm hoping for another 11pm game - too much fun!!:bounceblue:

[C0|db|00ded]

True, but CU is playing at home and the state high school wrestling championships are at the Qwest during a lot of the day so CU will play at 9pm or 11pm...period. I'm hoping for another 11pm game - too much fun!!:bounceblue:

:shutup: :innocent:


T


...:cool:

[LincolnJay]

Here fishy, fishy, fishy. :sleeping:

The exact reaction from the exact person. Shooting fish in a barrel.

It's a great decade to be a Jays fan. :jays:

[C0|db|00ded]

Here fishy, fishy, fishy. :sleeping:

The exact reaction from the exact person. Shooting fish in a barrel.

It's a great decade to be a Jays fan. :jays:

When "fishing", the goal should be not to soil your hands with bait that stinks from your own inadequacies. :innocent:

It's like the skinny kid at recess calling the bully an a-hole and subsequently getting pummeled all the while chanting "the exact reaction from the exact person; like shooting fish in a barrel"! :bangin: :boxed:

It's a great day...


T


...:cool:

[WSUbballer]

LJ....
Are those Creighton soccer helmets??

[outpost]

Roller derby at the Qwest?

Let's get it on, LJ. :bounceblue: :bounceblue: :bounceblue: :bounceblue:

[cuhoops]

Roller derby at the Qwest?

Let's get it on, LJ. :bounceblue: :bounceblue: :bounceblue: :bounceblue:

Nope, but WSU seems to be under the impression that we play roller derby at the Qwest, since they haven't won there yet...:bounceblue:


...:jays:

[LincolnJay]

When "fishing", the goal should be not to soil your hands with bait that stinks from your own inadequacies. :innocent:

It's like the skinny kid at recess calling the bully an a-hole and subsequently getting pummeled all the while chanting "the exact reaction from the exact person; like shooting fish in a barrel"! :bangin: :boxed:

It's a great day...


T


...:cool:

:sleeping:

Had an experience or two like that, Skinny? yeah, I thought so.

:sleeping:

[C0|db|00ded]

:sleeping:

Had an experience or two like that, Skinny? yeah, I thought so.

:sleeping:

CB, a tiny man..? :innocent:


T


...:cool:

[cufan]

Don't think I have seen this one, yet. So, without further ado ..............

Creighton released its schedule this morning. Still may or may not schedule a game December 2.

http://www.gocreighton.com/sports/common/news_releases_detail.asp?articleID=5306

[Omahaboundshock]

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier.

Yes I would.......Topeka is a snake's lair full of KU and KSU fans......ambivalent, indifferent and apathetic to anything related to WSU. Plus, it's the home of Washburn University, an up and coming NCAA D2 program.....
.

Sounds a lot like Creighton playing UNL in Omaha!:grin: (WITH ALL OF THOSE RED CLAD OMAHA UNL FANS AND DIVISION 2 POWER UNO IN TOWN)