Official VT Pre-Season Poll

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Didn't see that we had done an occicial poll yet, so I figured I would start one and then we could tally it up later this week to see what everyone thinks.

1. CU
2. WSU
3. SIU
4. MSU
5. UNI
6. Illinois St.
7. Drake
8. BU
9. UE
10. Indy St.

POY - Funk

1st Team - Funk, Tatum, Couisnard, Stout, Tolliver

2nd Team - Ahearn, Ogirri, Holsinger, Wilson, Falker



:valley:

[DawgieStyle]

1. CU
2. SIU
3. MSU
4. WSU
5. UNI
6. BU
7. IL st.
8. Drake
9. UE
10. Indiana St.

POY - Randal Falker

First Team: Funk, Young, Falker, Stout, Wilson

Second Team: Tatum, Ahearn, Tolliver, Cousinard, Korver

[txsaluki05]

:salukis:
:jays:
:bears:
:shockers:
:panthers:
:bulldogs:
:redbirds:
:braves:
:aces:
:sycamores:

POY: Tatum
1st Team: Funk, Tatum, Falker, Stout, Cousinard
2nd Team: Ahearn, Tolliver, Young, Wilson, Korver

[Pocket Aces]

1. CU
2. WSU
3. SIU
4. MSU
5. UNI
6. UE
7. DU
8. ILS
9. BU
10. ISU

1st team: Tolliver, Funk, Couisnard (WSU), Stout, Young

2nd team: Wilson, Webster, Falker, Tatum, Ahern

POY: Tolliver

[shocks771]

1. Creighton
2. Wichita State
3. Missouri State
4. Southern Illinois
5. Northern Iowa
6. Drake
7. Evansville
8. Illinois State
9. Bradley
10. Indiana State

1st Team- Funk, Tolliver, Couisnard, Young, Stout
2nd Team- Ahearn, Wilson, Holsinger, Falker, Ogirri

POY- Tolliver

[shockerfan13]

1. CU - NCAA (at large)
2. WSU - NCAA (at large)
3. MSU - NCAA (automatic)
4. SIU - NIT
5. Drake - NIT
6. UNI
7. Ill St
8. Evansville
9. BU
10. Ind St

POY - Funk

1st Team - Funk, Tolliver, Tatum, Cousinard, Stout

2nd Team - Wilson, Ahearn, Falker, Korver, Ogirri

[Hein72]

1. Creighton
2. Wichita St.
3. Missouri St.
4. Southern Illinois
5. Drake
6. Evansville
7. Northern Iowa
8. Illinois St. (seriously thought about putting them infront of UNI)
9. Bradley
10. Indiana St.

Player of the year- Funk
New comer of the year- Thomason
Freshman of the year- Eldridge
1st Team- Funk, Cousinard, Tatum, Ahearn, Falker
2nd Team- Wilson, Korver, Young, Toliver, Holsinger

[DoubleJayAlum]

1. CU
2. SIU
3. WSU
4. MSU
5. No Iowa (their front court will keep them this high)
6. Drake
7. Evansville (very dangerous)
8. Ill St (next year is their year; too inexperienced this year)
9. BU
10. Ind St

POY - Tolliver

First Team: Funk, Tolliver, Stout, Tatum, Young

Second team: Falker, Korver, Ahearn, Cousinard, Wilson

(FWIW - according to my informal review of votes so far, Funk & Stout are the only unanimous selections)

[Maggie]

1. CU - NCAA (at large)
2. SIU – NCAA (at large)
3. WSU - NCAA (at large)
4. MSU - NCAA (automatic)
5. Illinois St. - NIT
6. Northern Iowa - NIT
7. Drake
8. Evansville
9. Bradley
10. Indiana State

POY - Funk

1st Team - Funk, Tolliver, Tatum, Cousinard, Stout

2nd Team - Wilson, Ahearn, Falker, Korver, Webster

[underdawg2]

1. CU - NCAA (at large)
2. SIU – NCAA (at large)
3. WSU - NCAA (at large)
4. MSU - NCAA (automatic)
5. Illinois St. - NIT
6. Northern Iowa - NIT
7. Drake
8. Evansville
9. Bradley
10. Indiana State

POY - Funk

1st Team - Funk, Tolliver, Tatum, Cousinard, Stout

2nd Team - Wilson, Ahearn, Falker, Korver, Webster



1. SIU--by to the sweet 16
2. CU-- NCAA-at large
3.MSU--NCAA Auto
4. UNI--NIT
5.Drake--NIT
6. Ilst
7.UE
8.Bradley
9. Instate
10. WSU--NCAA--Probation:original:

[DUShock]

As always it's anyone's guess, so here's mine:

1. CU
2. WSU (tourney champ)
3. MSU
4. SIU
5. Ill State
6. Bradley
7. Drake
8. UNI
9. E-ville
10. The Syc's

1st Team: Tatum, Tolliver, Wilson, Ogirri, Funk

2nd Team: Stout, Ahearn, Falkner, Cousinard, Unknown Newcomer

[blueness]

1. CU
2. WSU
3. SIU
4. MSU
5. Drake
6. Evansville
7. Illinois St.
8. Northern Iowa
9. Bradley
10. Indiana State

(1-4 and 5-8 will be an absolute log jam...)

POY - Funk
NOY - Miles

1st Team - Funk, Ahearn, Tatum, Cousinard, Tolliver

2nd Team - Wilson, Stout, Falker, Korver, Webster

[smsandmsuson]

:jays:--NCAA
:salukis:--NCAA
:bears:--NCAA:ermm:(Will need the Auto to make it)
:shockers:-NCAA
:panthers:-NIT
:aces:--NIT
:redbirds:--NIT
:bulldogs:
:braves:
:sycamores:

First Team- Funk, Tatum, Ahearn, Stout, Tolliver

Second Team-Wilson, Falkner, Ogirri, Cousinard, Korver

[MSNSaluki]

1. SIU--by to the sweet 16
2. CU-- NCAA-at large
3.MSU--NCAA Auto
4. UNI--NIT
5.Drake--NIT
6. Ilst
7.UE
8.Bradley
9. Instate
10. WSU--NCAA--Probation:original:

Thanks ... another thread bites the dust.:original:

[RoyalShock]

1. CU
2. WSU
3. SIU
4. MSU
5. DU
6. UNI
7. UE
8. BU
9. ISU
10. InSU

To further clarify, I think spots 5-9 are all up for grabs, particulary 5-7.

1st Team - Funk (POY), Stout, Wilson, Young, Tolliver
2nd Team - Ahearn, Tatum, Cooz, Falker, Webster
HM - Ogirri, Coleman, Dotzler (if healthy), Holsinger, Korver

Newcomers/Freshman - Richardson (NOY), Eldridge (FOY), Egleseder, Miles, Thomasson

[Maggie]

Thanks ... another thread bites the dust.:original:

Lets hope not. And I also hope that underdawg2 doesn't try to make with the funny again.

[WSUbballer]

1. Creighton
2. Wichita St.
3. Missouri St.
4. Southern Illinois
5. Northern Iowa
6. Evansville
7. Illinois St.
8. Drake
9. Bradley
10. Indiana St.

POY - Funk
1st Team: Funk, Stout, Cousinard, Tolliver, Ahearn
2nd Team: Ogirri, Young, Falker, Wilson, Tatum

[3baller]

1. SIU
2. Creighton
3. WSU
4. UNI
5. MSU
6. Bradley
7. Drake
8. Illinois State
9. UE
10. Indiana State

[smsandmsuson]

1. SIU
2. Creighton
3. WSU
4. UNI
5. MSU
6. Bradley
7. Drake
8. Illinois State
9. UE
10. Indiana State

:helpsmilie:

Hinson would be fired after this season if this were to happen

[DawgieStyle]

:helpsmilie:

Hinson would be fired after this season if this were to happen

but doest that mean it won't happen?

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Here's how we stand so far. The number is the average pick.

CU 1.13
WSU 2.60
SIU 2.80
MSU 3.53
UNI 5.67
Drake 6.47
Ill. St. 7.13
Evansville 7.47
Bradley 8.20
Indy St. 10

[C0|db|00ded]

WSU
SIU-C
CU (need to prove team chemistry but I admit there is a lot of potential)
SMS
NIU
BU
DU
ISU
E-Ville
Trees

WSU, SIU-C, CU in NCAA -WSU winning Valley Tournament.
SMS, NIU, and BU in NIT

1st team: Cooz
2nd team: Wilson, Ogirri
Newcomer: Thomasson


T


...:cool:

[SubGod22]

WSU
CU
SIU
MSU
IlST
UNI
UE
DU
BU
InST

1st team - Funk, Cooz, Tolliver, Stout and Richardson
2nd team - Wilson, Young, Ahearn, Ogirri and Coleman

NCAA - WSU, CU, SIU and MSU
NIT - IlST and UNI

[salukibob]

1 = :salukis:

[MoState417]

WSU
SIU-C
CU (need to prove team chemistry but I admit there is a lot of potential)
SMS
NIU
BU
DU
ISU
E-Ville
Trees

WSU, SIU-C, CU in NCAA -WSU winning Valley Tournament.
SMS, NIU, and BU in NIT

1st team: Cooz
2nd team: Wilson, Ogirri
Newcomer: Thomasson


T


...:cool:



CU
MISSOURI STATE
Municipal University of Wichita/Fairmount College
SIU
ISU(red)
UNI
BU
DU
EU
ISU(blue)

[valleyclimber]

1. CU - NCAA (at large)
2. SIU – NCAA (at large)
3. WSU - NCAA (at large)
4. MSU - NCAA (automatic)
5. Illinois St. - NIT
6. Northern Iowa - NIT
7. Drake
8. Evansville
9. Bradley
10. Indiana State

POY - Funk

1st Team - Funk, Tolliver, Tatum, Cousinard, Stout

2nd Team - Wilson, Ahearn, Falker, Korver, Webster



Agree with Maggie 100 percent on the projections and player of the year. If the Valley does indeed take care of business OCC wise, then the MVC might even be sending a third team to the NIT. :yes:

:valley:

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

1) Creighton
2) SIU
3) Wichita State
4) UNI
5) Missouri State
6) Drake
7) Bradley
8) Evansville
9) Illinois State
10) Indiana State

[BMull10]

:salukis:
:jays:
:bears:
:shockers:
:panthers:
:aces:
:redbirds:
:bulldogs:
:braves:
:sycamores:

[Strike00]

1. SIU
2. CU
3. WSU
4. UNI
5. MSU
6. IlSU
7. EU
8. DU
9. BU
10. InSU

:valley:

[MoValley John]

1. CU -Too good, too deep.
2. MSU -Finally, Barry will almost achieve.
3. WSU -Tie for second, 3rd in seeding due to MSU wins head to head.
4. UNI -Can't teach 7 feet.
5. SIU -Defense wins games, but lack of offense will finally bite the dawgs.
6. DU -Here comes Dr. Tom Davis.
7. Ill St -Recruits begin to show up.
8. BU -Wait till next year.
9. UE -Bring back the sleeves.
10. In St -The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[C0|db|00ded]

CU
MISSOURI STATE
Municipal University of Wichita/Fairmount College
SIU
ISU(red)
UNI
BU
DU
EU
ISU(blue)

:lol: :lol:

That's THE Municipal University of Wichita/Fairmount College to you sir!


T


...:cool:

[Mc Bulldog]

After further review and analysis .. here are the guaranteed results for this season -

:bulldogs:
:salukis:
:bears:
:redbirds:
:braves:
:panthers:
:jays:
:shockers:
:aces:
:sycamores:

[cuhoops]

After further review and analysis .. here are the guaranteed results for this season -

:bulldogs:
:salukis:
:bears:
:redbirds:
:braves:
:panthers:
:jays:
:shockers:
:aces:
:sycamores:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MoValley John]

After further review and analysis .. here are the guaranteed results for this season -

:bulldogs:
:salukis:
:bears:
:redbirds:
:braves:
:panthers:
:jays:
:shockers:
:aces:
:sycamores:

Would you take this guarantee to Vegas? And if so, how much would you be willing to plunk down?

[outpost]

After reading this thread, I've come to this conclusion (not a prediction!!)....... The state of Iowa may end up making up 10% of the NIT field.

I hope they don't all end up in the same bracket.

[MoValley John]

After reading this thread, I've come to this conclusion (not a prediction!!)....... The state of Iowa may end up making up 10% of the NIT field.

I hope they don't all end up in the same bracket.

As the notorious, yet always drunk Jim Zabel would say, "I love it! I love it! I love it!

[Fetz86]

WSU
MSU
CU
SIU
UNI
BU
EU
DU
ILSt
Indy St

1st team: Ruffin, Ogirri, Funk, Stout, Tolliver
2nd team: Coos, Webster, Ahearn, Falker, Wilson

POY: Funk

[shockball]

CU
SIU
WSU
MSU
DU
UNI
ILLSU
INDSU
BU
EU
:valley:

[siubball32]

cu,siu,wsu,msu,uni,evansville(dangerous),drake,ill st,bu,indst.

1st team- ahearn, stout, funk, tolliver, tatum.
2nd team- webster, wilson, young, pj cooz., MATT SHAW.

MVP- Stout

[siudog]

After an all night sessions of looking at all the mags and web sites here is what I came up with...

:jays:
:shockers:
:salukis:
:bears:
:bulldogs:
:panthers:
:redbirds:
:aces:
:braves:
:sycamores:

Thats it folks now its time to get some sleep..

:valley: :salukis:

[ValleyPride]

With records heading into NCAA's

:jays: 27-5, 15-3 MVC (NCAA automatic bid)
:salukis: 25-7, 14-4 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:bears: 24-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:shockers: 23-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:aces: 18-13, 10-8 MVC (NIT)
:panthers: 19-12, 9-9 MVC (NIT)
:bulldogs: 17-15, 7-11 MVC
:braves: 11-21, 5-13 MVC
:redbirds: 11-21, 5-13 MVC
:sycamores: 4-26, 1-17 MVC

Remember that with the new schedule non-restrictions, 20 wins isn't what it used to be. Probably need 21-22 to be considered a lock.

[DawgieStyle]

WSU
MSU
CU
SIU
UNI
BU
EU
DU
ILSt
Indy St

1st team: Ruffin, Ogirri, Funk, Stout, Tolliver
2nd team: Coos, Webster, Ahearn, Falker, Wilson

POY: Funk

u have one SIU player on your all valley teams? Granted, I agree Falker is the one if you are gonna pick one this year, he is due for a break out. But to leave off one of Tatum or young, who have made it in previous years, or both is a little laughable.

[MSNSaluki]

u have one SIU player on your all valley teams? Granted, I agree Falker is the one if you are gonna pick one this year, he is due for a break out. But to leave off one of Tatum or young, who have made it in previous years, or both is a little laughable.

It's not laughable, Dawgie ... it's one guy's opinion, something you champion all the time when defending yourself.
Take it easy today, my friend ... this thread is humming along nicely!:salukis:

[TNMSUFAN]

1. CU
2. WSU
3. MSU
4. SIU
5. UNI
6. Drake
7. IL State
8. UE
9. BU
10. IN State

[DawgieStyle]

It's not laughable, Dawgie ... it's one guy's opinion, something you champion all the time when defending yourself.
Take it easy today, my friend ... this thread is humming along nicely!:salukis:

so what, we're not allowed to comment back on an opinion now either? Yes it's his opinion, I respect that he has an opnion, but I think he's wrong.

[Cdizzle]

With records heading into NCAA's

:jays: 27-5, 15-3 MVC (NCAA automatic bid)
:salukis: 25-7, 14-4 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:bears: 24-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:shockers: 23-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
:aces: 18-13, 10-8 MVC (NIT)
:panthers: 19-12, 9-9 MVC (NIT)
:bulldogs: 17-15, 7-11 MVC
:braves: 11-21, 5-13 MVC
:redbirds: 11-21, 5-13 MVC
:sycamores: 4-26, 1-17 MVC

Remember that with the new schedule non-restrictions, 20 wins isn't what it used to be. Probably need 21-22 to be considered a lock.
This ordering looks very reasonable, but I have a hard time believing that the Valley champion has only 3 conference losses. The league is simply too good, there are no more gimmes. I like 6 in the post-season though!:valley::original:

[troutangler]

1. CU
2. WSU
3. MSU
4. SIU
5. UNI
6. Drake
7. IL State
8. UE
9. BU
10. IN State

Ditto.

1st Team - Ahearn, Funk, Tolliver, Stout, Cousinard

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

1. Creighton (NCAA)
2. Southern Illinois (NCAA)
3. Wichita State (NCAA)
4. Northern Iowa (NIT)
5. Drake (NIT)
6. Illinois State (NIT)
7. Missouri State (NIT)
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Indiana State

[DJShocker10]

1. WSU-NCAA
2. SIU-NCAA(auto)
3. CU-NCAA
4. MSU-NCAA
5. UNI-NIT
6. IllSt.-NIT
7. BU
8. UE
9. DU
10. Ind. St.

[frontrowdrake]

This is going to be a great season for the Valley!
1. Creighton- NCAA
2. Missouri State- NCAA
3. Southern Illinois- NCAA
4. Wichita State- NIT
5. Drake- NIT
6. UNI- NIT
7. Illinois State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Indiana State

[WSUbballer]

This is going to be a great season for the Valley!
1. Creighton- NCAA
2. Missouri State- NCAA
3. Southern Illinois- NCAA
4. Wichita State- NIT
5. Drake- NIT
6. UNI- NIT
7. Illinois State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Indiana State

Going from 4 NCAA tourney teams a year ago to 3 is great for the Valley? :helpsmilie:

[DawgieStyle]

Going from 4 NCAA tourney teams a year ago to 3 is great for the Valley? :helpsmilie:

But its not unrealistic.

[MoValley John]

Going from 4 NCAA tourney teams a year ago to 3 is great for the Valley? :helpsmilie:

I thought the same thing when I read that.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Here's the update:

(1) Creighton - 1.49
(2) SIU - 2.63
(3) WSU - 2.74
(4) MSU - 3.49
(5) UNI - 5.22
(6) Drake - 6.56
(7) Ill. St. - 7.00
(8) Evansville - 7.57
(9) Bradley - 8.00
(10) Indy. St. - 9.89

Here is how the coaches saw it:

(1) Creighton
(2) SIU
(3) WSU
(4) MSU
(5) UNI
(6) UE
(7) DU
(8) BU
(9) Ill. St.
(10) Indy St.

The top five is the same and 6-9 appears to be anybodies guess.

[shockerfan13]

I thought the same thing when I read that.


I don't think the difference in respect between 3 and 4 teams in the tourney will be that great in the media. If we get less than 3 though (which we won't) then it will be back to the "same old Valley". I think 3 at this point is realistic and not too over-zealous of a prediction. But I definately think 4 is possible again this year.

[SycamoreBlueBleeder]

Originally Posted by ValleyPride
With records heading into NCAA's

27-5, 15-3 MVC (NCAA automatic bid)
25-7, 14-4 MVC (NCAA at-large)
24-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
23-9, 12-6 MVC (NCAA at-large)
18-13, 10-8 MVC (NIT)
19-12, 9-9 MVC (NIT)
17-15, 7-11 MVC
11-21, 5-13 MVC
11-21, 5-13 MVC
4-26, 1-17 MVC

Remember that with the new schedule non-restrictions, 20 wins isn't what it used to be. Probably need 21-22 to be considered a lock.


Okay i've read all this about how terrible Indiana State is going to be and that we'll be last place again. This is the last straw. 4 Wins!!! You have got to be kidding me. That's a disgrace to our conference that you think the last place team in the Valley can't win 5 games. We may finish last, which i don't think we will, but i guarantee we win more games than 4. The team was not prepaired to play without David Moss when he went down last year...they all know what has to be done and what is expected of them now and i promise you'll see a difference. You all are underestimating what the young players on this team can do. Also, you will be hearing a lot about Gabe Moore this year, the most under rated PG in the valley. We stay healthy i feel a lot of crow will be eaten come tourney time.

[WSUbballer]

Okay i've read all this about how terrible Indiana State is going to be and that we'll be last place again. This is the last straw. 4 Wins!!! You have got to be kidding me. That's a disgrace to our conference that you think the last place team in the Valley can't win 5 games. We may finish last, which i don't think we will, but i guarantee we win more games than 4. The team was not prepaired to play without David Moss when he went down last year...they all know what has to be done and what is expected of them now and i promise you'll see a difference. You all are underestimating what the young players on this team can do. Also, you will be hearing a lot about Gabe Moore this year, the most under rated PG in the valley. We stay healthy i feel a lot of crow will be eaten come tourney time.

I like your optimism and your support for your school! However, who do you think will finish last if you don't think Indiana State will?

It sucks, but somebody has to do it..

[MoValley John]

I like your optimism and your support for your school! However, who do you think will finish last if you don't think Indiana State will?

It sucks, but somebody has to do it..

I have a lot more confidence in the fact that Indiana State will finish in the cellar than I do with how the top will pan out. That said, 1 conference win seems a bit low, the trees will steal a few conference wins. Indiana State goes 7-23, 4-14.

[MSNSaluki]

so what, we're not allowed to comment back on an opinion now either? Yes it's his opinion, I respect that he has an opnion, but I think he's wrong.


Whatever, dude.
Do whatever you want.

[MetDrakeFan]

I don't know if I just wanna be a bit different, but here is my take. :grin:

(1) WSU
(2) Creighton
(3) SIU
(4) MSU
(5) UNI
(6) DU
(7) BU
(8) UE
(9) Ill. St.
(10) Indy St.

I think that there are three distinct groupls, 1-4 & 5-8 - which pretty much seem like a crap shoot, and it SEEMS that both ISU's are bringing up the rear. It's quite hard to figure out the Valley though. Too much parity...

[ApPlEkNoCkEr_SaLuKi]

1st-SIU
2nd-Creighton
3rd-Shox
4th-MSU
5th-UNI

[jdoolsiu]

IM HERE KENNEDY!

Here's what I got.
This means SIU will be awful. I ACTUALLY PICKED THEM IN THE TOP TWO FOR ONCE!!!

1. CU 14-4 Veteran. Well Coached. Top Notch
2. SIU 14-4 Top 9 scorers return. Not having Bone is going to hurt.
3. Wichita 13-5
4. Northern Iowa 12-6
5. Missouri State 12-6
6. Evansville 7-11
7. Bradley 6-12
8. Drake 5-13
9. Illinois State 5-13
10.Indiana State 2-16

Here's the thing. 1-3 are interchangeable.
So are 4 and 5.
So are 7 through 9.
Don't be surprised IF: Illinois State's young kids do better than expected.
Missouri State finishes in the top 3.
Wichita doesn't make the tournament.
SIU struggles early
Northern Iowa makes a run for the conference title
Evansville finishes around .500

[DUBulldog]

1. CU (if Dotzler is ready)
2. WSU
3. SIU
4. MSU
5. UNI
6. UE
7. DU
8. BU
9. ILSU
10. INSU

[UNI4Life]

:jays:
:salukis:
:bears:
:shockers:
:panthers:
:bulldogs:
:aces:
:braves:
:redbirds:
:sycamores:

[MoValley John]

Here's the thing. 1-3 are interchangeable.
So are 4 and 5.
So are 7 through 9.
Don't be surprised IF: Illinois State's young kids do better than expected.
Missouri State finishes in the top 3.
Wichita doesn't make the tournament.
SIU struggles early
Northern Iowa makes a run for the conference title
Evansville finishes around .500

Does this mean that no. 10 is NOT interchangeable?:innocent:

[Drakey]

:jays::shockers: :salukis: :bears: :bulldogs: :redbirds::aces: :panthers: :braves: :sycamores:

[isubird3379]

After seeing tonights game....i will say that they Syc's will NOT finish below #7

[WSUbballer]

After seeing tonights game....i will say that they Syc's will NOT finish below #7
You're judging one exhibition game at home against Missouri Southern as a reasoning for this... Yikes!..

[jt45]

CU
SIU
WSU
MSU
UNI
IlSt
Bradley
Drake
UE
IndST

[shocks02]

CU
WSU
SIU
MSU
UNI
DU
IND ST
ILL ST
BU
UE

1st Team: Funk, Cousinard, Wilson, Tolliver, Tatum
2nd Team: Young, Ahearn, Ogirri, Stout, Coleman
Newcomer: Thommason