Sports Nirvana

[outpost]

I believe I may have come up with a new term.

This is the condition that you are in when all of your teams are on a roll.

Obviously, I'm a Shocker fan first and foremost. But I'm also enjoying the start that the Valley has made this season.

And when I add to this the fact that my favorite NFC and AFC football teams have either neared or risen all the way to the top of their divisions, it all adds up to a state of........

SPORTS NIRVANA

:innocent: :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:

:valley:

[tennis08tarheels]

Let's see.

Davidson - (4-3), 0-3 against BCS schools, but this is a rebuilding year.

Carolina Panthers - (6-5) Were supposed to be a Super Bowl team, and now they can't score points.

Pittsburgh Pirates - Ew.

Charlotte Bobcats - Don't really enjoy NBA, but if I watch it, this is my team. Ew.

Texas A&M Aggies (Football) - Decent. Beat UT for the first time in 7 years.

[doinit salukistyle]

It's been smooth sailing for me right now

SIU football, final 8 in I-AA playoffs
SIU basketball, 5-1 right now, with their stud recruit for next year coming from my high school.

Da bears, 9-2 (I'm with you grossman!!!)
Cardinals, World Series champs!

Yeah, things are going pretty good for me right now.

[IH8SIU]

I don't believe Cubs fans are allowed to be in a "sports nirvana".

[BearsChiefsFAN]

I don't believe Cubs fans are allowed to be in a "sports nirvana".
LOL thats so funny and so true!!!
Go Cards!!!

[tennis08tarheels]

I don't believe Cubs fans are allowed to be in a "sports nirvana".

It's a lot better than being a Pirates fan, trust me.

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

I don't believe Cubs fans are allowed to be in a "sports nirvana".

It's a lot better than being a Pirates fan, trust me.

You guys should really switch to hockey, and join me as a fan of the St. Louis Blues. :banghead:

[smsandmsuson]

You guys should really switch to hockey, and join me as a fan of the St. Louis Blues. :banghead:

Yeah man, rough times right now but I am certain that they will turn things around and make us a playoff team in the coming years...

[DawgieStyle]

Let's see

SIU Football, second round of playoffs
SIU Basketball, Humming along pretty good
St. Louis Cards - World Champs
Atlanta Falcons - 5 & 6, Vick is moron
Detroit Red Wings - Second in Division with 30 points.
Chicago Bulls - Let's not talk about them....Bring back Jordan, even if he's almost 50

Not really sports Nirvana, but not all is bad.

[Maggie]

I'll play, but I am far from Nirvana:

WSU Basketball – doing fine so far.
KC Royals – a farm system for the rest of the MLB, plus I have to listen to Yankee fans all the time.
KC Chiefs – I am not convinced and not a fan of Herm Edwards (I experienced his tenure with the Jets first hand)
New York Knicks – sad and embarrassing.

Other than WSU, my sports teams are pretty much mired in a world of suck.

[DawgieStyle]

I'll play, but I am far from Nirvana:

WSU Basketball – doing fine so far.
KC Royals – a farm system for the rest of the MLB, plus I have to listen to Yankee fans all the time.
KC Chiefs – I am not convinced and not a fan of Herm Edwards (I experienced his tenure with the Jets first hand)
New York Knicks – sad and embarrassing.

Other than WSU, my sports teams are pretty much mired in a world of suck.

ouch, a royals fan.....and I thought cubs fans had it bad. You have my condolences.

[Maggie]

ouch, a royals fan.....and I thought cubs fans had it bad. You have my condolences.

Appreciated, I hear that a lot around here.

[DawgieStyle]

Appreciated, I hear that a lot around here.

I know there is loyalty to a team, but when its apparrent ownership, the players, managers, GM, etc. etc. aren't making an attempt to put a quality product on the field, isn't it time to find a new team to support? It would be different if they were just having a "Down" couple of years and struggling, I understand "sticking" with your team, but its apparrent this organization doesn't care about its fans. I don't know how you deal with it.

[BearsChiefsFAN]

ouch, a royals fan.....and I thought cubs fans had it bad. You have my condolences.

I think i would rather be a Royals fan. The Cubs year in and year out think they are gona be good, and come to find out they are losers agian or if they are desent and still dont win they find some way to blame it on one of their fans!

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[DCShockerFan]

1. WSU Shockers--they're pretty good--perhaps you've heard of them?
2. Georgetown Hoyas--I admire JTIII, but goddammit teach them to BOX OUT ON REBOUNDS!! But they'll still be decent I think.

NBA: I guess the Wizards just cause they're local--but I don't even know where they are in the standings.

Football: KC Chiefs--On the verge of being good for about 15 years now.
No college team really--used to root for the Kitties but they're just so bad now, and I can't watch the games where I am anyway.

Hockey: Red Wings--descending from greatness, but still dangerous.

Baseball: KC Royals: On the verge of AAA ball for about 20 years now. I tried rooting for the Nats too--still the Expos...

Soccer: DC United--terrible collapse in the playoffs for the second consecutive year. But still way better than anyone else in MLS.

[DCShockerFan]

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[Sir_ShoxAlot]

I guess I'm in somewhat of a Sports Nirvana right now...

Wichita State Shockers- 5-0, a win over LSU, doing great.

San Diego Chargers- 9-2, LaDainian Tomlinson is the "Michael Jordan of football", first place in the AFC West, also doing great.

St. Louis Cardinals- Don't pay attention to MLB, I just picked these guys out because St. Louis is my favorite city and I like Albert Pujols. And I guess they're the World Champs now.

Miami Heat- I don't pay any attention to NBA either, but I like the Heat's jerseys:grin:

And yes, I chose the Cardinals and Heat as my favorites BEFORE they won the World Championships in their sport. Just a coincidence. I'm really hoping that the Bolts can keep my championship streak alive, but with Marty Shottenheimer as our head coach, we probably won't get passed the AFC Championship game...:helpsmilie: :no:

[Maggie]

I know there is loyalty to a team, but when its apparrent ownership, the players, managers, GM, etc. etc. aren't making an attempt to put a quality product on the field, isn't it time to find a new team to support? It would be different if they were just having a "Down" couple of years and struggling, I understand "sticking" with your team, but its apparrent this organization doesn't care about its fans. I don't know how you deal with it.

I understand where you are coming from. The Knicks and the Royals have some of the same problems. I really don't have many positive things to say about the management of either team.

But I will be loyal to a team, to a fault. How do I deal with it? I temper my expectations. I don't go to Knicks games anymore, I'll watch the team on the MSG network for free. If I lived in KC I wouldn't go to Royals games either. However, when I went to WSU, the basketball team was terrible (and had been bad for quite a while) but I still went to every game. The difference, in my mind, was at least the college kids were trying and as student athletes they deserved to be supported.

I'll stick with my teams – despite the fact that the Chiefs, Knicks, Royals have caused me much heartache over the years.

[smsandmsuson]

FSU/MSU/Packer football---YIKES:helpsmilie:
Kentucky/MSU/Laker basketball---Good so far
Cardinals baseball---World Champs
Blues Hockey---Another down year
Wizards/Liverpool Reds soccer---Up and down year for both:ranting:

:valley: :bears:

[saluki42]

I have no idea what that is....I have never witnessed my team win a national championship in any sport!

New York Knicks-Get rid of Thomas!

Minnesota Vikings- Brad Johnson is older than dirt and throws like dirt.

SIU basketball- Good season so far.

SIU Football- In the quarterfinals but they will let me down at some point. Sorry saluki fans but we will never win it all as long as I am cheering for them.

[DawgieStyle]

the difference, in my mind, was at least the college kids were trying and as student athletes they deserved to be supported.

You hit the nail on the head. I'm loyal to a team as long as they are trying, and that not only means the players, but the admin, owners, GM, coaches, etc. etc. I can deal with slumps and down years, as long as I know the organization is making every effort to try and get back to respectability. However, I have no problem abandoning a team if they choose to sell out their fans, by simply not trying any longer. I've been pretty lucky, my favorite teams have never pulled a stunt like that.

There are teams tho, that come to mind that have....

1)the LA Clippers for many years (something finally clicked the last couple years for the front office)

2)the CUBS. If I were a fan, I'd be going nuts. They obviously have money to spend, similar to the Yankees and Redsox, but they don't spend it. Do I think they need to spend as much as the yanks, no, that's a little crazy. Do I think the owner ship doesn't becuase no matter what, they're gonna pack the house? YEP. Cub fans bring this on them selves in my opinion. They pack that dang ball ball park no matter how good or bad their team is. If they'd just a send a message to owner ship that they aren't gonna stand for a lack of performance by NOT! going to games, things in Wrigleyville would get a lot better.

3)the Detroit Lions...Some one fire Matt Millen.

4)As mentioned previously, The KC Royals.

I'm sure there are more. But these are examples of organizations that have quit on their fans now or sometime in the past. I don't have a problem with not being loyal to them, if a team isn't loyal to who pays their pay checks, the fans.

[MoValley John]

Baseball: Cubs. I don't care what anyone says, as a true Cubs fan, hope springs eternal and the Cubs will be great next year. And yes, I hate the Cards and White Sox and don't listen to Hawk Harrelson because why would I ever watch a Sox game with their low rent southside white trash meth induced fans.

Football: Bears. Great season so far, but am still waiting for the collapse.

College football: No team in particular. Hate Miami and all the Florida teams. I hate Michigan and USC. I also hate the Big XII in general- Nebraska and K-State in particular. So I guess I have teams I hate, none that I really would support. I love the game, but just don't have a team I root for- I root for the team that is playing the team I hate.

College basketball: Love the Valley, great year so far. Don't have a favorite, but since I live in Omaha, I get to see and hear more about Creighton than any other team, but am really not a fan.

NBA: Don't care, it's really not basketball.

NHL: Blackhawks. But since I'm not in an NHL city, it's hard to follow.

Soccer: Hope they all lose. It's a stupid Eurotrash game with stupid rules. Anyone that follows soccer is a communist.

WNBA: Who gives a crap? Really?

Nascar: See WNBA.

Bowling: Guppy Troupe. I think he's dead.

Roller Derby: The Bay City Bombers.

Wrestling: Bobby the Brain Heenan and anyone he manages. I guess I'm old school.

Mud wrestling: The chick with the biggest cans.

Track and Field: If the cops aren't chasing me, I ain't running. So why would I follow the sport?

Off the top of my head, that's about it. If I think of any more, I'll let you know. I can tell you this, win or lose, I'm always in sports nirvana.

[Shoxfan11]

College Basketball: Wichita State, doing good so far
College Football: Wichita State, undefeated for 18 years or so!

Sorry, couldn't resist. :lol:

NFL: Chiefs, I believe they can make it to the playoffs, but they most likely get killed there.

MLB: Royals... no comment needed.

[MoValley John]

I forgot to mention golf.

PGA: John Daly.

[DawgieStyle]

Baseball: Cubs. I don't care what anyone says, as a true Cubs fan, hope springs eternal and the Cubs will be great next year. And yes, I hate the Cards and White Sox and don't listen to Hawk Harrelson because why would I ever watch a Sox game with their low rent southside white trash meth induced fans.

Football: Bears. Great season so far, but am still waiting for the collapse.

College football: No team in particular. Hate Miami and all the Florida teams. I hate Michigan and USC. I also hate the Big XII in general- Nebraska and K-State in particular. So I guess I have teams I hate, none that I really would support. I love the game, but just don't have a team I root for- I root for the team that is playing the team I hate.

College basketball: Love the Valley, great year so far. Don't have a favorite, but since I live in Omaha, I get to see and hear more about Creighton than any other team, but am really not a fan.

NBA: Don't care, it's really not basketball.

NHL: Blackhawks. But since I'm not in an NHL city, it's hard to follow.

Soccer: Hope they all lose. It's a stupid Eurotrash game with stupid rules. Anyone that follows soccer is a communist.

WNBA: Who gives a crap? Really?

Nascar: See WNBA.

Bowling: Guppy Troupe. I think he's dead.

Roller Derby: The Bay City Bombers.

Wrestling: Bobby the Brain Heenan and anyone he manages. I guess I'm old school.

Mud wrestling: The chick with the biggest cans.

Track and Field: If the cops aren't chasing me, I ain't running. So why would I follow the sport?

Off the top of my head, that's about it. If I think of any more, I'll let you know. I can tell you this, win or lose, I'm always in sports nirvana.

that was quite humerous....but I would add these comments...

WNBA - Like Watching Paint Dry

NHL - Do they still play Hockey?

CFL - Football for damaged People (thanks you Robin Williams).

[DawgieStyle]

I forgot to mention golf.

PGA: John Daly.

Sorry, gotta go with Tiger. I play Golf, but I hate to watch it, its boring, Unless Tiger is on. He is simply messmirizing (Sp?). I haven't seen a more dominant person at their sport since MJ. I feel honored and blessed that I'm at a stage in my life that I can appreciate what I'm seeing, and able to say I saw the greatest golfer to ever live. That's a pretty cool thing to be able to say. It's similar to watching MJ.

[doinit salukistyle]

the real study if a city cares about their team...if you take a survey from a hundered people, and ask them "if you had the choice between (insert team here) winning a champioship, or finding 20 bucks on the sidewalk. Which would you choose?

[MoValley John]

Tiger Woods? You have to be kidding me! I know he's the greatest golfer and all. He makes the game look easy. I would rather see John Daly drive the ball 380, make a 180 wedge to within a foot, putt for eagle. Every time he does this, you have to wait and watch him turn around and take a 7 on a par 3. I love the fact that he smokes on the course, drinks beer outside his travel trailer and talks to the fans. In other words, he's human, with great skills, yet human flaws. He is real. Tiger, like every other golfer on the tour, is just a logo wearing robot.

[DawgieStyle]

Tiger Woods? You have to be kidding me! I know he's the greatest golfer and all. He makes the game look easy. I would rather see John Daly drive the ball 380, make a 180 wedge to within a foot, putt for eagle. Every time he does this, you have to wait and watch him turn around and take a 7 on a par 3. I love the fact that he smokes on the course, drinks beer outside his travel trailer and talks to the fans. In other words, he's human, with great skills, yet human flaws. He is real. Tiger, like every other golfer on the tour, is just a logo wearing robot.

Tiger maybe all you're saying...but he's the best, that's all that matters.

[MoValley John]

Tiger maybe all you're saying...but he's the best, that's all that matters.

Reggie Jackson buzzes off.

[doinit salukistyle]

I'll play, but I am far from Nirvana:

WSU Basketball – doing fine so far.
KC Royals – a farm system for the rest of the MLB, plus I have to listen to Yankee fans all the time.
KC Chiefs – I am not convinced and not a fan of Herm Edwards (I experienced his tenure with the Jets first hand)
New York Knicks – sad and embarrassing.

Other than WSU, my sports teams are pretty much mired in a world of suck.

You gotta give herm edwards some credit here, 7-4 record with Huard at the helm? :shocking:

[btisu22]

Basketball: Indiana State 4-1 Go Valley until conference starts
NBA: Who cares
MLB: Go Cardinals!!!! World Champs!!!
NFL: Go Colts!!!! 10-1
NASCAR: Tony Stewart
Col. Foot.: Indiana State OUCH :helpsmilie: :banghead: :no:
and Notre Dame....hate the Big (1)10
Col. Base.: Indiana State....looks to get back on track with new skipper!

[Beaker416]

College BBall: UNI (Naturally)
College FBall: UNI
MLB: ChiCubs (Next year is the year baby!) The Royals are my AL team, but man I wish they'd suck less.
NBA: Bobcats (Give them a year or so, they have the young talent there)
NFL: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (It's been a rough year)

[DawgieStyle]

College BBall: UNI (Naturally)
College FBall: UNI
MLB: ChiCubs (Next year is the year baby!) The Royals are my AL team, but man I wish they'd suck less.
NBA: Bobcats (Give them a year or so, they have the young talent there)
NFL: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (It's been a rough year)

Damn dude....are you in sports hell? Cubs, Royals, Bucs, and Bobcats? That's a collection.

[MoValley John]

Damn dude....are you in sports hell? Cubs, Royals, Bucs, and Bobcats? That's a collection.

At least he's only stuck in Sports Hell, not Carbondale.:lol:

[DawgieStyle]

At least he's only stuck in Sports Hell, not Carbondale.:lol:

I never understood what was so bad about Carbondale? I like it here. Southern Illinois as a regioin is pretty cool. I will admit there is a certain type of person that does live here, rednecks....shhhh..they'll hear you. But for the most part many people are educated, hard working and polite.

There is a lot to do here, mainly because of the University, but not all. We have college sports, a new minor league baseball team, a nice mall with lots of satelite stores you'll find in every big city. We have The Shawnee Forest in our back yard, which most people can't say. Most people from chicago don't know what a tree looks like. There is Giant City Park, Garden of the Gods, Great Bass fishing, lots of camping and lakes. A nature persons dream.

Southern Illinois also has a HUGE winery business. If you haven't been on the wine trail, you should go. Good wine, lots of fun, and you can get tanked in an hour.

We have Performing arts due to the university and the Marion Civic and Cultural Center. Not bad for a low dense populated area.

And maybe the most fun thing is the bar scene. College kids can get annoying, but for the most part, there is a huge selection and a bar type for everyone. Included in this is great places to eat like Quatros, 17th Street, The Newell House, Tres Hombres, etc etc.

All in all, its a pretty fun pace to live. To top it off, there are no such things as traffic jams in Carbondale......I can't tell you how much that makes my day. I couldn't handle Chicago...there nuts.

[MoValley John]

It was a joke. Nothing more, nothing less.

[MoValley John]

BTW, I gave you a positive rep, just to try and help get rid of that annoying red stigmata that you currently have.

[DawgieStyle]

BTW, I gave you a positive rep, just to try and help get rid of that annoying red stigmata that you currently have.

thanks, but Its probably gonna take a lot more than just you, lol, but eh it helps. It's not like its keeping me from posting.

PS, I know it was a joke, just thought I'd share my view on life in carbondale.....am I getting too old to be checking out 18 year old college chicks?

[Beaker416]

Damn dude....are you in sports hell? Cubs, Royals, Bucs, and Bobcats? That's a collection.

Haha, feels like it sometimes. I don't follow the NBA too closely so the Bobcats not doing very well doesn't bother me too much. Last year the Cubs season was pretty painful to watch, but UNI athletics has been awesome the last few years so it all works out.

[MoValley John]

thanks, but Its probably gonna take a lot more than just you, lol, but eh it helps. It's not like its keeping me from posting.

PS, I know it was a joke, just thought I'd share my view on life in carbondale.....am I getting too old to be checking out 18 year old college chicks?

If you're too old to be checking out 18 year-old college chicks, then you're too old to post on VT. I think it's in the bylaws.

[DawgieStyle]

If you're too old to be checking out 18 year-old college chicks, then you're too old to post on VT. I think it's in the bylaws.

:lol: I'm only 28..i think its ok still.

[smacktalkermsu]

I'm about breaking even on my teams right now.

CBB: Missouri State is a little better than expected......MVC is tearing it up.
CFB: Nebraska is on their way back....dissappointed about the losses to Texas and OSU.
MLB: Kansas City- what can i say, Their Offense actually was #2 in runs scored after the All-star break......now if we can only get some pitching.
NFL: Kansas City- This is probably the last year they can compete for a championship.....but i don't see it happening. I'm impressed with the fact that they were able to win a bunch of games with Huard.

Secondary teams: Nebraska Basketball and Baseball.......The jury is still out on the BB team but i'm sure the Baseball team will be solid again.

All in all it's been an exciting year.

[MoValley John]

I'm about breaking even on my teams right now.

CBB: Missouri State is a little better than expected......MVC is tearing it up.
CFB: Nebraska is on their way back....dissappointed about the losses to Texas and OSU.
MLB: Kansas City- what can i say, Their Offense actually was #2 in runs scored after the All-star break......now if we can only get some pitching.
NFL: Kansas City- This is probably the last year they can compete for a championship.....but i don't see it happening. I'm impressed with the fact that they were able to win a bunch of games with Huard.

Secondary teams: Nebraska Basketball and Baseball.......The jury is still out on the BB team but i'm sure the Baseball team will be solid again.

All in all it's been an exciting year.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[outpost]

WSU Basketball - great season last, following up so far by "proving it."
KC Chiefs - Beat Denver, and control their destiny for at least a Wild Card.
Dallas Cowboys - could be the hottest team in the NFC.

These are the three teams that set off my original mood.

[IH8SIU]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will second that....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[BearsCountry]

Well I'm far from a sports nirvana, bc my teams are the best choke artists in the country.

NCAA Hoops - Go Bears!
NCAA Football CS - Well the Bears did win the last one
NCAA Football BS - MU, they are bowl bound
NFL - Chiefs (they are doing well so far but will choke in the playoffs)
MLB - Royals (looking good for the future, Gordon, Butler, and Dayton Moore)
NBA - Kings

[Maggie]

You gotta give herm edwards some credit here, 7-4 record with Huard at the helm? :shocking:

Look, as a person Edwards comes off as a nice guy. Additionally, I think he is a good motivator, i.e. he gets his players to play hard. But….Edwards is a terrible game coach. He doesn't seem to have his team prepared – stupid penalties, horrendous clock management, etc. I live in NYC and watched Edward coach the Jets – he was terrible. I don't get to watch the Chiefs all that much but from what I have heard he has not changed.
So that coupled with the fact that the Chiefs always seem to disappoint in the playoffs – I am not optimistic. If Edwards does well – pulls things together – I'll be the first to give him credit.