For you Valley Conference haters

[iSASO]

Your dreams are about to come true:

It is very likely that there will be - ZERO - Valley teams in the Top 25 next week.

I assume that's the byproduct you've been praying for.

Let me quote a Creighton fan:

oooh i love to rub it in

And another one:
i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

[DoubleJayAlum]

So we are all supposed to root for WSu just to keep a Valley team in the top 25? Stupid, stupid, stupid :no:

[Rasputin]

I knew one of the usual idiots would finally show up. :clap:

[blueblood]

WSU is after all the flagship right? Official rule, cheer for Valley out of conf. but alls fair in conf.

[iSASO]

Again, a quote from a Creighton fan:

i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

[DJShocker10]

So we are all supposed to root for WSu just to keep a Valley team in the top 25? Stupid, stupid, stupid :no:

Go back and look at the title of the thread. "For you Valley Conference haters.

[iSASO]

And look who responded.

[Rasputin]

Go back and look at the title of the thread. "For you Valley Conference haters.

Yup, because somehow anyone who roots against WSU is an MVC hater.

:laughing:

Weak, REALLY weak.

[iSASO]

Again, a quote from a Creighton fan:

i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

[Rasputin]

And look who responded.

And you wonder why people lash out whenever you lose? You are the poster child for that reason.

Do your fans a favor and crawl back into the subterranean hole you belong in.

[unipanther99]

Yeah, pretty dumb to hope for any team to drop out of the top 25 when it gets the conference decent pub on sportscenter with highlights, etc.

However... I'm not sure WSU drops out. Smart voters (ah em... please let there be a few out there) will realize how shorthanded WSU was in Vegas, and that UNI is actually a pretty decent team as well.

[DJShocker10]

Yup, because somehow anyone who roots against WSU is an MVC hater.

:laughing:

Weak, REALLY weak.

Did I say that? You have this way of taking everything you read/hear and spinning it to the way you want to see it. Of course your not a MVC hater if you root against WSU. But we were the team in the Top 25 that took the beating tonight. Your beloved Bluejays pi$$ed away their ranking to even be in a situation like this.:doh:

[blueblood]

And again, one fan does not make a fanbase. A true MVC fan wants our teams to be ranked. But I am a CU fan first. CU needs WSU losses like this to have a chance at the title. Plain and simple.

[iSASO]

Again, a quote from a Creighton fan:

i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

Just FYI, I would never ever dream of posting that about any MVC team, ever! But I knew we would witness it from a Creighton fan. You could feel it was right there all the time, just waiting to be leaked out by one of them.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Your beloved Bluejays pi$$ed away their ranking to even be in a situation like this.:doh:

And now your beloved Shockers have "pi$$ed away their ranking" as well.

[Rasputin]

Did I say that? You have this way of taking everything you read/hear and spinning it to the way you want to see it. Of course your not a MVC hater if you root against WSU. But we were the team in the Top 25 that took the beating tonight. Your beloved Bluejays pi$$ed away their ranking to even be in a situation like this.:doh:

Maybe so, but I think some of you are taking rankings a little too seriously. They should be the least of any MVC teams' concerns.

[Michigan J. Frog]

The high point of the # of people on this website is 263.

There were more than 10K in Wichita and more than 17K in Omaha tonight.

I don't think we posters mean diddley squat.

[iSASO]

So CUSidekick05, based on your quote:
this is true....i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

Which BCS team would you like to see in WSU's #16 spot? Maryland?

Zero MVC teams in the Top 25. That's exactly what will happen and it appears that's what you are hoping for.

How many major conferences have ZERO teams in the Top 25? Are you happy that the MVC cannot be considered in that group now?

[Rasputin]

So CUSidekick05, based on your quote:


Which BCS team would you like to see in WSU's #16 spot? Maryland?

Zero MVC teams in the Top 25. That's exactly what will happen and it appears that's what you are hoping for.

How many major conferences have ZERO teams in the Top 25? Are you happy that the MVC cannot be considered in that group now?

Well, this is all fine and dandy if we actually had a team that was worthy of a top-25 ranking. It sounds to me like you are still trying to advocate WSU as a top-25 team, well they're not. Losing 3 in a row to New Mexico, USC, and UNI at home is not top-25 material, sorry.

Worry about winning games instead of stupid polls.

[iSASO]

Over the past 6 weeks, I was hoping that other teams would join WSU in the Top 25. It appears that at least one Creighton fan was purely hoping that WSU would not be in the Top 25 poll at all. If that meant having ZERO MVC teams in the Top25, that would be OK just as long as WSU wasn't there.

That was pretty much the sentiment I felt and the sentiment that DaShox confirmed last week.

While you were praying that WSU would lose to anyone and everyone in order to get them out of the Top25, I was praying that Creighton and everyone else would win enough to join WSU.

[DaShox]

Do BCS teams care if they are "worthy" of being in the Top 25? Nope.
Do BCS conferences care if they are "worthy" of 7-8 bids to the dance? No.
When BCS conferences are not worthy of a ranking, do they say no thank you? No.
Was Kentucky-Indiana "worthy" of being on CBS a few weeks ago? No.
It's not about "worthy".

Finally, how does WSU, or any other MVC team not being in the Top 25 make you better?

Answer: It doesn't.

[creightonfever]

How can you say people who very much dislike the shuckers be called MVC haters??? knock knock.. ITS CONFERENCE TIME and last time i checked its OK to be a little competitive with whos in your league.. hell its fun! You can bash CU all you want, I dont care if you beat us you deserve to, we are in conference play!

A little competitiveness never hurt anyone and btw if people are hatin on you maybe you should take this as a compliment... its obviously because you do have a solid team and people respect it

[DJShocker10]

Yet again, nobody said if you hate WSU that you're a Valley hater. Geez.

[MoValley John]

Do BCS teams care if they are "worthy" of being in the Top 25? Nope.
Do BCS conferences care if they are "worthy" of 7-8 bids to the dance? No.
When BCS conferences are not worthy of a ranking, do they say no thank you? No.
Was Kentucky-Indiana "worthy" of being on CBS a few weeks ago? No.
It's not about "worthy".

Finally, how does WSU, or any other MVC team not being in the Top 25 make you better?

Answer: It doesn't.

Actually, BCS teams DO care if they are worthy of a top 25, that's what they play for. BCS conferences DO care how many teams they get to the dance because it all goes to the bottom line. On the other hand, you are exactly right on your final points.

[Rasputin]

Over the past 6 weeks, I was hoping that other teams would join WSU in the Top 25. It appears that at least one Creighton fan was purely hoping that WSU would not be in the Top 25 poll at all. If that meant having ZERO MVC teams in the Top25, that would be OK just as long as WSU wasn't there.

That was pretty much the sentiment I felt and the sentiment that DaShox confirmed last week.

While you were praying that WSU would lose to anyone and everyone in order to get them out of the Top25, I was praying that Creighton and everyone else would win enough to join WSU.

Its better to have the entire league in the RPI top 100 than have 1 team ranked in the top 25. Again, rankings don't mean squat, RPI DOES.

PS iSASO, your routine is getting old and tiresome. Maybe its time to come up with a new delusional act of inferiority? Afterall, you seem to have plenty of time to do so (in between quote collecting sessions of course).

[creightonfever]

It appears that at least one Creighton fan was purely hoping that WSU would not be in the Top 25 poll at all. If that meant having ZERO MVC teams in the Top25, that would be OK just as long as WSU wasn't there.



You have you and your fans to thank for that.

[iSASO]

To re-phrase what DaShox said, BCS schools do not apologize for being in the Top25 while not being worthy. They embrace the value of it and expect more because it affects public opinion, NCAA seeding and generates more power-grubbing and money-grubbing opportunities.

Meanwhile in the Valley, some fans are insanely jealous of another's success and pray that a team in their conference fails to float everyone's boat with the rising tide of national respect.

[DJShocker10]

To re-phrase what DaShox said, BCS schools do not apologize for being in the Top25 while not being worthy. They embrace the value of it and expect more because it affects public opinion, NCAA seeding and generates more power-grubbing and money-grubbing opportunities.

Meanwhile in the Valley, some fans are insanely jealous of another's success and pray that a team in their conference fails to float everyone's boat with the rising tide of national respect.

You just nailed it.

[iSASO]

You have you and your fans to thank for that.

No single fan or a million fans of another school can make me hate another school so much that I pray for the health and respect of the conference to be damaged.

If one person or a group of people can influence you in that way, you need to get some perspective.

I never rooted for Creighton to fall out of the Top25 and never will. It's ignorant, short-sighted and just plain stupid. I'm sorry that you cannot get past your petty jealousy and support the fight for national respect that this conference wages on a daily basis. There are 25 spots in that poll and 10 Valley teams, get it?

[unipanther99]

iSASO... You are right that is it stupid to hope WSU falls from the top 25, but why not look at this from a different angle. Make the case for UNI (or some other valley team) to join you in the top 25 if you feel it is so important to the valley. The WCC has had one team (Gonzaga) ranked in the top 25 for several years now, but it hasn't done much to raise the visibility of the conference as a whole.

[iSASO]

Absolutely. I guarantee you WSU will be penalized more in the poll than UNI will be boosted. That is the greatest harm and is precisely what a couple of CU fans seem to enjoy, simply because it is WSU in the poll.

[blueblood]

ISASO,
Nice little lecture to a "couple of CU fans". Your tone continues to lecture many more than a "couple of CU fans". Thats a big part of the problem. Have yet to see you lecture your own "couple of fans". They go on unabated.

[iSASO]

I've never seen a WSU fan pray that a fellow MVC team lose to a non-conference opponent so that they will be knocked out of the polls and "shut those arrogant A-holes up". Sound familiar LincolnJay?

[jaypharmalum]

Man, WCC fans are gripping hard... seems like going from an undefeated, close to Top 5 team all the way down the last place in the MVC after tomorrow isn't an easy pill to swallow.

For the record, I was pumped that WCC beat Syracuse and LSU... now I am glad that you are being brought down to earth by our league brethren. I hope you lose every game the rest of the year. Wouldn't that be cool if an MVC team were so great to go and beat those teams but couldn't win it's own league title? Seems to me that would show the depth of the conference, right?

You can root against CU and I'll root against you - isn't that what the conference season is for?

[iSASO]

Jaypharmalum:
I hope you lose every game the rest of the year...You can root against CU and I'll root against you...

Root against CU? Only twice, for sure. You see, unlike you who are ate up with hate, I hope the conference leaders with the best early resume and best opportunity to go deep into the NCAA's are the same as the conference leaders at the end of the season.

That would include CU, WSU, SIU, MSU and UNI. I hope everyone else loses every game they play. Again, nice display of petty jealousy and irrational hate interfering with common sense.

Some people...you just can't reach.

I held no ill will towards Bradley as they went to the Sweet Sixteen. Can you honestly say the same thing about WSU? Did your jealousy and hate prevent you from fully enjoying those WSU wins?

The longer this thread goes the more true colors are revealed to everyone. You hope the best conference representatives fail, I hope they succeed. I guess that's the difference between us. You can't make me hate Creighton. I'm not that weak-minded and short-sighted.

[LincolnJay]

Hey douche bag, you are one of the main reason I don't come out here much anymore but if you're going to attempt to quote me, get it right. I said:

It's best if Wichita State wins these games but the loss will at least shut those a-holes up.

I stand by that. I hope you win your bracket buster game and go 0-18 in the conference. That would be best. In the meantime, other Valley teams will stay in the upper echelons of the RPI and hopefully get plenty of NCAA bids for the conference.

If you notice, I rarely dig at other teams and only good naturedly at that. However, my disgust for many {not all} of WSU fans is quite real and quite strong. If your suffering requires the loss of a majority of your team's games to make you suffer, so be it. I am happy when all other teams in the Valley do well. I would be most pleased if WSU would defect to some other conference.

I don't expect you to like me or my team.

The sanctimonious bulls*** you throw out here and in other threads is repulsive.

[iSASO]

Nice personal attack and name-calling fit. Really showing that fine upbringing there, LJ.
I can honestly wish Creighton all the good fortune in the world, except for when they play WSU or are directly involved in the waning days of a title race. I can sincerely hope that Creighton reaches its max potential as long as it doesn't interfere with WSU reaching theirs. It's rather humorous and sad, frankly, that you're so wrapped around the axle with short-sighted hate, I mean "disgust" that you cannot reciprocate. You would rather see the conference lose the momentum gained during last year's tournament as long as it satisfies your hate, I mean "disgust".

Folks, the list of those showing their true colors grows yet again.

[blueblood]

Is UNI supposed to feel bad? After all they are the ones that ruined things. What a bunch of babies. Get over yourselves and get ready to play SIU. Move on. You lost. Get ready for the next game and quit feeling sorry for yourselves ya bunch of babies. Wow, got some real fighters here. Are we all supposed top feel sorry for you? UNI is the one that poured the shot in your punch. WAHHHHHHH. When CU loses don't anyone dare say anything bad.

[Rasputin]

When CU loses don't anyone dare say anything bad.

Too late. :wink:

iSASO's attempted "logic" is this:

Rooting against WSU is anti-MVC, thus making you a hater. But, he (and a select other few) seem to think rooting against CU or kicking us whenever we lose is somehow justifiable. :ermm:

iSASO, I find it comical that you are actually trying to convince us that you root for CU (or anybody else for that matter). Almost every post/thread you participate in on here starts with or ends up having something to do with CU or it's fans. The stench of insecurity is amazing. Do we threaten you that much? Do we threaten you to the point that you need to start threads accusing CU fans of secretly hoping for WSU to lose every game possible? That is exactly what you have been doing.

A $2/hour Peruvian Shrink could diagnose your problem in a matter of seconds...

[MVC 4 Life]

I am sure Duke fans love to see NC ranked #2 in the country and for the sake of the ACC they hope that NC wins out so that the ACC can have the #1 team in the country and so the ACC can have another national champion. :chair: :chair: :chair: :chair:

Just like I am sure- Michigan fans are rooting for Ohio State
- Illinois fans are rooting for Indiana
- NC State fans are rooting for Duke or NC
- I hope you see my point

[jaypharmalum]

I'm not that weak-minded and short-sighted.

I can't speak to your vision, but I'm pretty sure weak-minded describes most of the Shox fans pretty well.

Stop with your, "You should root for WSU because we're the Valley front runner". I pulled for you in the OOC, I will cheer you on in the NCAAs (which you should make). In between, you've got to prove your mettle.

:salukis: :panthers: :jays: :shockers: :bears: :braves: :aces: :sycamores: :bulldogs: :redbirds:

[iSASO]

No one is asking you to root for WSU during the conference portion of the schedule. However, why would any rational person want WSU to finish last in the conference?
Give me some logical reasons why that would be good for the conference.

I'm glad to see you corrected your sloppy mistake regarding the Bracket Busters.

[blueblood]

1. It would shut you up.

[iSASO]

Give me some logical reasons why that would be good for the conference.

Try again.

This is not about your personal sense of self-worth.

[blueblood]

2. WSU has great out of conf. record. They come into the mighty MVC and struggle. HHHHHMMMMMM, the MVC must be a really tought conf.

[iSASO]

OR

2. We knew WSU and their conference was a fluke. They had a couple of good games and were overrated. They had their moment in the sun. Let's give Maryland that 11-seed over Drake.

[blueblood]

ISASO, you have to realize WSU is not the only MVC team with impressive nonconf. wins. The MVC is anywhere from 3rd to 7th rpi. CU's win over MSU is its best win of the season RPI wise. CU is only going to make it to the show via wins in the MVC. All MVC teams will benefit from our conf. rpi. If WSU fallls apart, which it has not done with only one game played, it will benefit someone else in the league. We got 4 bids last year. With the nonconf. wins we have we should get 4 at a minimum this year. Like I said in another thread, WSU dropped from a 4 seed to a 8 seed. Get over CU and move on. You are still in but you need some MVC wins to get back to a 4. WSU being a 4 or an 8 seed does nothing to CU. CU needs a lot of MVC wins just to get in. Look at your cup, its half full. Your not an angel on this board. I am not goin to go looking for quotes but you have amoung other things made many quotes over time about there being more fans at a CU game dressed in red than blue. Quit your crying and acting like an angel. Neither one flatters you.

[creightonfever]

dude quit arguing. ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR OK? Its conference play, you are one of our enemies in the valley and the same is for you with us, its okay to get a little competitive... and you know what? During non-conference play.. YES there were CU fans rooting for WSU. Is it because we like you? Nope, we love this league. But I could care less how well you do during conference play.

[OmahaBen]

However, why would any rational person want WSU to finish last in the conference? Give me some logical reasons why that would be good for the conference.

Someone has to finish last. It would neither hurt nor help the conference if it's WSU instead of Drake or Evansville. As such, personal choice is a perfectly acceptable reason, in my opinion.

[iSASO]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:

i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

No matter the time of year, when is it a good thing to have fewer Valley teams in the Top 25?

[MSNSaluki]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:



No matter the time of year, when is it a good thing to have fewer Valley teams in the Top 25?

Well, that really opens the door to a whole other thread - How does the No. 2 or 3 conference in RPI not have any team ranked in the top 25?

Can somebody answer that one for me?:doh:

PS - I know the answer.:chair:

[iSASO]

No one on this board can answer that question. It's one for the voters. We all know what the answer should be: at least MSU and SIU deserve to be ranked. Unfortunately, we don't vote.

[Rasputin]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/8/8f/300px-BroadmoorRecordRuin.jpg

Do you still think WSU deserves to be ranked? SIU has a beef, but I don't see their fans going ballistic about being/not being ranked.

[WUkie]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/8/8f/300px-BroadmoorRecordRuin.jpg

Do you still think WSU deserves to be ranked? SIU has a beef, but I don't see their fans going ballistic about being/not being ranked.

Jealousy and envy are shameful things. I will thoroughly enjoy watching you squirm once we trounce you at Koch and the Qwiet Municipal Events and Convention Center.

:douchebag:

[iSASO]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/8/8f/300px-BroadmoorRecordRuin.jpg

Do you still think WSU deserves to be ranked? SIU has a beef, but I don't see their fans going ballistic about being/not being ranked.

Rasputin, take off the hate goggles and read my post again. Where are the letters "W" "S" "U" in this phrase:

MSU and SIU deserve to be ranked

Stop looking for things that aren't there just because they fit your agenda.

[DawgieStyle]

Jealousy and envy are shameful things. I will thoroughly enjoy watching you squirm once we trounce you at Koch and the Qwiet Municipal Events and Convention Center.

:douchebag:

you're an idiot. I don't call people names very often, and that's saying alot, I tend to say everything else. But man, your post the last couple days after SIU beating WSU have been idiotic, what's your deal? For all the things that have gone down on valley talk during Wichita's nice run to start the season, and their gloating during it, my opinion, the response on here has been very reserved during their losing streak. It's fans like you from Wichita that give the rest of your fans bad names. Trust me I know what I'm talking about, I give SIU fans a bad name, once in a while, just shut up.

[DoubleJayAlum]

You hope the best conference representatives fail, I hope they succeed.

Perhaps not everyone else in the conference agrees with your premise that WSU is the "best conference representative" right now. Its that sort of arrogance that turns people off.

Right now, I think the "best conference representatives" are SIU and UNI.

[creightonfever]

Jealousy and envy are shameful things. I will thoroughly enjoy watching you squirm once we trounce you at Koch and the Qwiet Municipal Events and Convention Center.

:douchebag:


Not that you havent ALREADY experienced Karma with your fourth straight loss.. what goes around comes around buddy.. I feel BAD for you. :no:

Nope, actually im beyond feeling sorry.

[DJShocker10]

I guess karma doesn't apply to CU.. I would expect a lot of Shocker fans rubbing it in when you lose if I were you.:yes:

[Rasputin]

Jealousy and envy are shameful things. I will thoroughly enjoy watching you squirm once we trounce you at Koch and the Qwiet Municipal Events and Convention Center.

:douchebag:

:helpsmilie:

I could say a lot right now...But, it wouldn't be fair to the rest of your fans on here. I will just let you and iSASO continue to makes fools out of yourselves.

[Rasputin]

I guess karma doesn't apply to CU.. I would expect a lot of Shocker fans rubbing it in when you lose if I were you.:yes:

Thanks. We would expect nothing less from the "CLASS" of the MVC. :doh:

[creightonfever]

I guess karma doesn't apply to CU.. I would expect a lot of Shocker fans rubbing it in when you lose if I were you.:yes:

Weve already EXPERIENCED the karma..

going from preseason #13 to losing to nebraska? Hurts doesnt it?

[DJShocker10]

Weve already EXPERIENCED the karma..

going from preseason #13 to losing to nebraska? Hurts doesnt it?

Wouldn't know how it feels to lose to a cupcake like Nebraska. I do know what it's like to lose to quality teams like UNM who just about put a curve in Bob Knights road to 880, USC, UNI, and SIU. That does hurt.

[Rasputin]

Wouldn't know how it feels to lose to a cupcake like Nebraska. I do know what it's like to lose to quality teams like UNM who just about put a curve in Bob Knights road to 880, USC, UNI, and SIU. That does hurt.

Interesting logic.

New Mexico - RPI #92
Nebraska - RPI #46

CU loses at NU's place.

WSU loses to UNM on a neutral floor.

Would you like to continue talking about cupcakes? Or would you like to say something else earth shattering?

[C0|db|00ded]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:



No matter the time of year, when is it a good thing to have fewer Valley teams in the Top 25?

My, my, my.. you have the toys all worked up in here. I need to check into this part of the forum more often; this thread was entertaining. It's too bad that most in here who have contributed are unable to enjoy it because it is their very character that blinds them from reality thus allowing the game to endure providing for your, mine, and a couple other's utter amusement.

Who would have thought after losing our 6'10" conference POY we would attain a top 10 national ranking, knock off a pair of Final Four participants and a pair of top-flight BCS programs... Thanks MT!

It's a great day to be a Shocker!


T


...:cool:

[DJShocker10]

Interesting logic.

New Mexico - RPI #92
Nebraska - RPI #46

CU loses at NU's place.

WSU loses to UNM on a neutral floor.

Would you like to continue talking about cupcakes? Or would you like to say something else earth shattering?

I would like to see UNM and NU go head to head to shut you up.

[MSNSaluki]

I would like to see UNM and NU go head to head to shut you up.

Wouldn't it be a better discussion to wait until after WSU and CU play?:innocent:

[CUJay]

I would like to see UNM and NU go head to head to shut you up.

We don't need UNM and NU to go head to head. CU and WSU will go head to head. After this season, CU will have won 24 of its last 28 games against the Shox, and Altman will be 13-3 against Turdgeon.

[LincolnJay]

Clod started a post at Shockernet stating:

I've come to the conclusion that we are a bit overrated.

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Yes we beat LSU and SU but they are not as good this year as their reputation would indicate. We struggled against a 300 rpi team at home, lost to a couple decent teams in Las Vegas and now lost to a decent NIU team while looking bad in the process.

We are a good team but not good enough to support our egos or rankings.


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Then comes here and spouts his bile. Pretty funny stuff.

:horse:
:shockers:

[Rasputin]

knock off a pair of Final Four participants and a pair of top-flight BCS programs... Thanks MT!

It's a great day to be a Shocker!


T


...:cool:

Yup, a marvel of achievement that everyone should be in awe of.

@George Mason - RPI #85
@LSU - RPI #80
@Syracuse - RPI #73

Then losses to:

UNM - RPI #92
USC - RPI #88
UNI @ Home - RPI #46
@SIU - RPI #13 (A wash because nobody expected you to win this anyway)

I am sure you will point out CU's 4 losses as well. However, I cannot ever remember a time where CU lost 4 games in a row in the DA era. Maybe it has happened, but I certainly don't remember it.

But don't worry, we are still extremely jealous of anything WSU. We all want to be just like you. :wink:

[Rasputin]

I would like to see UNM and NU go head to head to shut you up.

Since when was UNM some juggernaut to be reckoned with? Oh, I know...Since WSU lost to them. :doh:

[Rasputin]

Clod started a post at Shockernet stating:

I've come to the conclusion that we are a bit overrated.

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Yes we beat LSU and SU but they are not as good this year as their reputation would indicate. We struggled against a 300 rpi team at home, lost to a couple decent teams in Las Vegas and now lost to a decent NIU team while looking bad in the process.

We are a good team but not good enough to support our egos or rankings.


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Then comes here and spouts his bile. Pretty funny stuff.

:horse:
:shockers:

Good find LJ. :clap:

I hear lithium is the medication of choice for bi-polar disorders.

[C0|db|00ded]

Yup, a marvel of achievement that everyone should be in awe of.

@George Mason - RPI #85
@LSU - RPI #80
@Syracuse - RPI #73

Then losses to:

UNM - RPI #92
USC - RPI #88
UNI @ Home - RPI #46
@SIU - RPI #13 (A wash because nobody expected you to win this anyway)

I am sure you will point out CU's 4 losses as well. However, I cannot ever remember a time where CU lost 4 games in a row in the DA era. Maybe it has happened, but I certainly don't remember it.

But don't worry, we are still extremely jealous of anything WSU. We all want to be just like you. :wink:


I'm sorry I wouldn't have a clue as to what CU's losses are.. I just know they have a few... four was surprising to me. Unlike you and Creighton, the events going on in WSU's season keeps my full attention. It does make me blush though knowing a program you have so much contempt for is still worth the time to research all their opponents RPI's.. :lol:

P.S.

There are a lot of things you won't be able to remember in the DA era like Sweet Sixteens, multiple NCAA tourney wins, etc. etc.

It's a great day!


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[Rasputin]

I'm sorry I wouldn't have a clue as to what CU's losses are.. I just know they have a few... four was surprising to me. Unlike you and Creighton, the events going on in WSU's season keeps my full attention. It does make me blush though knowing a program you have so much contempt for is still worth the time to research all their opponents RPI's.. :lol:

P.S.

There are a lot of things you won't be able to remember in the DA era like Sweet Sixteens, multiple NCAA tourney wins, etc. etc.

It's a great day!


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I wish we only had 1 NCAA appearance in the past 15+ years...:innocent:

[C0|db|00ded]

Clod started a post at Shockernet stating:

I've come to the conclusion that we are a bit overrated.

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Yes we beat LSU and SU but they are not as good this year as their reputation would indicate. We struggled against a 300 rpi team at home, lost to a couple decent teams in Las Vegas and now lost to a decent NIU team while looking bad in the process.

We are a good team but not good enough to support our egos or rankings.


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Then comes here and spouts his bile. Pretty funny stuff.

:horse:
:shockers:

http://members.cox.net/econoshox/big_obsessman-d.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's a great day!


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[blueblood]

How special. All of the sudden Wukie is no where to be found but yet Clod is now back. Check that IP address.

[iSASO]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:


i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings


No matter the time of year, when is it a good thing to have fewer Valley teams in the Top 25?

[Rasputin]

How special. All of the sudden Wukie is no where to be found but yet Clod is now back. Check that IP address.

It does seem rather coincidental, but I doubt Clod is Wukie. Clod knows he's full of s h i t...Wukie just sounds like your typical Wichita Bible-belt bigot. Isn't MT Catholic? :ermm:

Besides, Clod has admitted in the past of using proxy servers. So, even if they were the same entity you would never know it. I always thought proxy servers were for Kiddie Porn downloaders and hackers. :banana:

[blueblood]

The 3 stooges

ISASO
CLOD
WUKIE

Which one is Moe?

[Rasputin]

The 3 stooges

ISASO
CLOD
WUKIE

Which one is Moe?

Don't forget DJShocker10 as Shemp! :lol:

[MSNSaluki]

Against my better judgement, here are the latest RPIs and SOS rankings for all Valley teams, courtesy of Warren Nolan:

SIU 11/32:salukis:
Bradley 22/14:braves:
Missouri State 31/62:bears:
Creighton 41/44:jays:
Northern Iowa 45/181:panthers:
Wichita State 46/46:shockers:
Indiana State 56/74:sycamores:
Evansville 87/123:aces:
Drake 101/170:bulldogs:
Illinois State 104/103:redbirds:

[OmahaBen]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:

http://www.chabotcollege.edu/library/abby/broken%20record.jpg

[iSASO]

It's funny that no Creighton fan has been willing to comment on that quote. I keep putting it out there but not a single bold and daring person has dared address my question.
You can kill the messenger but the message still stands.

Grab that braas ring! Step up to the plate! Don't be a sissy!

How many more chliche's and challenges are required to embolden one person to validate that quote from one of your own fans?

[crjays1]

It's funny that no Creighton fan has been willing to comment on that quote. I keep putting it out there but not a single bold and daring person has dared address my question.
You can kill the messenger but the message still stands.

Grab that braas ring! Step up to the plate! Don't be a sissy!

How many more chliche's and challenges are required to embolden one person to validate that quote from one of your own fans?


I counted six replies from CU fans about the quote on the first page. As for myself, WCC just pulled a classic late season choke job in early conference play. I guess when you start 1.5 months earlier, we witness the chokers in early January.

I would be alot more concerned about you CHOKERS, then about CU fan quotes.

Enjoy!

[MikeKennedyRulz]

I counted six replies from CU fans about the quote on the first page. As for myself, WCC just pulled a classic late season choke job in early conference play. I guess when you start 1.5 months earlier, we witness the chokers in early January.

I would be alot more concerned about you CHOKERS, then about CU fan quotes.

Enjoy!

For the record, at this time last season the Shox were 10-4 and had conference losses at home to UNI and on the road at SIU. Hmmm, sounds eerily familiar to this season and I think last season turned out pretty good for Shocker fans. A little too early to call it a choke job, just like it is a little too early to call BJU's early season struggles a choke job. Just an observation, I hate to bring actual basketball discussion into a smack forum, but it needed to be posted.

[blueblood]

Also for the record. The vast majority of Bluejay fans were saying the WSU losses as they happened were not a big deal in the big picture. That includes me. But ISASO for the entire span focused on a couple of smack quotes. The vast majority of the MVC quotes were things like, "WSU will turn it around". Of course even this was told to ISASO on numerous posts but here we still are.........

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Also for the record. The vast majority of Bluejay fans were saying the WSU losses as they happened were not a big deal in the big picture. That includes me. But ISASO for the entire span focused on a couple of smack quotes. The vast majority of the MVC quotes were things like, "WSU will turn it around". Of course even this was told to ISASO on numerous posts but here we still are.........

Fair enough. Good point. I think people making such rash statements one way or the other at this point in a long season is foolish, no matter what school you follow.

[C0|db|00ded]

I counted six replies from CU fans about the quote on the first page. As for myself, WCC just pulled a classic late season choke job in early conference play. I guess when you start 1.5 months earlier, we witness the chokers in early January.

I would be alot more concerned about you CHOKERS, then about CU fan quotes.

Enjoy!

Creighton calling WSU chokers? Classic! :lol:

Crjays1 seems to still be at the top of her game in regards to supplying the Shocker Nation with "timeless" quotes!

I thank you!

It's a great day!


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[Rasputin]

Creighton calling WSU chokers? Classic! :lol:

Crjays1 seems to still be at the top of her game in regards to supplying the Shocker Nation with "timeless" quotes!

I thank you!

It's a great day!


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Add this to your quote collection, Einstein:

"P.S. I have no clue who Wukie is but I can appreciate some of his sentiments.." - Clod

Maybe you should have stayed in hiding. I realize Taco Bell is working your a s s off, but still.........:lol:

[C0|db|00ded]

Add this to your quote collection, Einstein:

"P.S. I have no clue who Wukie is but I can appreciate some of his sentiments.." - Clod

Maybe you should have stayed in hiding. I realize Taco Bell is working your a s s off, but still.........:lol:

Here, let me get the original quote for you. I would hate for you to crack under pressure like your boy Blue did and give into the temptation of editing it to suit your weak agenda. The time I have spent helping you Creighton kids gets deducted off this years tax filings for charity. And I thought Creighton was a pretty decent education for a podunk master's level university?? :doh:

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Oh you know I stand alone but these kind of statements need to be applauded for their accuracy and timeliness:

They charge an enormous amount of money for tuition, but can't afford to build their own arena. Earth to Creighton, The Qwiet Center ain't yours!

Their campus is in the middle of ghetto.

They always choke in the post-season.

Joan-of-Arc free ticket giveaways to artificially inflate their attendance.

Their fans whine about EVERYTHING. (See LincolnJay, Rasputin, Blueblood)

Their obvious envy of WSU is sickening.

They want other MVC schools (see ISASO quotes in smacktalk thread) to lose to make their pathetic start look better.




That's pretty good stuff as far as I'm concerned... :innocent:

P.S.

You know I'm never going to criticize somebody for trying to start trouble or being somewhat entertaining. Wukie got a little bit out of control but there were signs in his writings that he might have a future around here.. :naughty:


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P.S.

I just got a Pottery Barn catalog in the mail the other day and I thought of you 'Spew. Have you had time to do any interior decorating up there in Omaha between weather forcasts? (I was looking to insert a rainbow emoticon here but couldn't find one) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[blueness]

In an attempt to maintain some semblance of factual integrity,
Someone asked when the last time CU last lost four games in a row.
It was during the 1999-2000 season.

CU was 10-0 then dropped 4 straight, including their first two Valley games.

[Bird]

So ISASO, was Turgeon thinking about the betterment of the Valley when he scheduled the untelevised one and done with Syracuse? Yes, the unranked Syracuse that has a RPI of 70.

Don't try the "scheduling SU will help WSU's RPI, and thus the Valley's RPI". WSU and CU have the same records, yet WSU has a lower RPI than CU, even with a win at SU. Thus, there hasn't been much RPI help. The Big East won't help much either as it is 7th in the RPI and there are only 3 teams in the Top 50.

Turgeon was clearly only thinking about WSU when he scheduled that game. And that actually has a real impact on the Valley. What someone types on a messageboard has no impact. As a CU fan, I hope WSU loses every game. Just like I hope UNI and SIU lose all of their games. That increases CU's chances to win the Valley title. I could care less if it means they drop from the rankings.

[C0|db|00ded]

So ISASO, was Turgeon thinking about the betterment of the Valley when he scheduled the untelevised one and done with Syracuse? Yes, the unranked Syracuse that has a RPI of 70.

Don't try the "scheduling SU will help WSU's RPI, and thus the Valley's RPI". WSU and CU have the same records, yet WSU has a lower RPI than CU, even with a win at SU. Thus, there hasn't been much RPI help. The Big East won't help much either as it is 7th in the RPI and there are only 3 teams in the Top 50.

Turgeon was clearly only thinking about WSU when he scheduled that game. And that actually has a real impact on the Valley. What someone types on a messageboard has no impact. As a CU fan, I hope WSU loses every game. Just like I hope UNI and SIU lose all of their games. That increases CU's chances to win the Valley title. I could care less if it means they drop from the rankings.

Why not have WSU lose just enough so that CU wins the title? Why do they have to lose all their games? That reeks of emotional instability. I personally think that WSU is the "class of the valley" (my definition) along with Creighton. As long as WSU is in the Valley I am a Valley fan and what is best for the Valley is for WSU and Creighton to be in the top 3 spots every year. I don't want anybody to lose all their games. I have friends from nearly every MVC team and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

The fact that Wichita State has the most dynamic smack talking squad on VT has sent ripples through the very fabric of Creighton and SIU-C fans to the point that their character is suffering. It's time to buck up, admit your issues, and get back to talking trash without jumping over a ledge or hanging yourself while doing it.

Take a lesson from Joey Eischen on how to reinvent yourself on VT.. but don't get as nice as he has.. :naughty:

GOOOOO SHOX!

GOOOOO JAYS *gag*


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[iSASO]

Ah, but wait. The quote I am talking about says this, in effect:

"I am a Creighton fan who who hates WSU so much that I cannot wait to see WSU drop out of the national rankings. I would rather see ZERO Valley teams in the Top 25 than see WSU in the Top 25. I don't care if they lose conference games or non-conference games, I just want them to drop out of the national rankings."

I don't think even our esteemed resident trial lawyer can spin his way out of this one.

[blueblood]

For the 30th time. No one but you cares.

[C0|db|00ded]

Ah, but wait. The quote I am talking about says this, in effect:

"I am a Creighton fan who who hates WSU so much that I cannot wait to see WSU drop out of the national rankings. I would rather see ZERO Valley teams in the Top 25 than see WSU in the Top 25. I don't care if they lose conference games or non-conference games, I just want them to drop out of the national rankings."

I don't think even our esteemed resident trial lawyer can spin his way out of this one.

Wow, that's embarrassing. Did you have to over to their home forum to get that or was it on VT?


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[iSASO]

Here it is again, in case you missed it:

i cant wait to see them drop out of the rankings

[MSNSaluki]

Take a lesson from Joey Eischen on how to reinvent yourself on VT.. but don't get as nice as he has.. :naughty:

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Wow ... an endorsement from COLD!
Do I get a prize?

PS - I've always been this nice. I just got a little crazy for two weeks many months ago.:innocent:

[jaypharmalum]

ISASO - I think you have posted that sentence a dozen or more times on various threads. What I cannot understand is why you don't get it.

The vast majority of posters here root for the MVC wholeheartedly in the OOC and NCAA/NIT tourneys. However, it's hard for me to believe that there are not certain factions of fans that dislike certain teams more than they like the sum of the parts. Do I care if someone here has such great distaste for CU that they were happy that the Jays lost to Nebraska and dropped from the top25? Not so much. As a Jays fan, it pained me to see my team lose - I could give a crap less what some poster on this board thought and whether or not they were pulling for my guys because what the hell difference does it make? Wah, wah - you weren't rooting for us to win and now I am going to complain that you don't like me BS - cmon.

Why does it bother you so much that someone (a lone person, mind you) was happy to see WSU take their lumps? I suspect that, more than anything, a poster on this board would make such a comment primarily as a catharsis on the Shox fans who felt their worth greater than the whole in the first place.

My 0.02

[OmahaBen]

Why not have WSU lose just enough so that CU wins the title? Why do they have to lose all their games?

Again, someone has to finish last, and it doesn't matter power ranking wise who that is. And since I don't have any problem with fans from most of the other Valley schools, it may as well be WSU for all I care.

I won't be staying up nights losing sleep over it if they don't finish in the cellar, but Iif there's a little schadenfreude going on, so be it.

[OmahaBen]

Here it is again, in case you missed it:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/05/05/mylittleone-trickpony300.jpg

[AcePurple]

Here it is again, in case you missed it:

Hey, could you post that again, I didn't quite get it.

[LincolnJay]

For you Wichita State haters

fixed


:sleeping:

[Fraydog]

http://www.valleytalk.net/showpost.php?p=56692&postcount=17

When in doubt, use the search button.

[C0|db|00ded]

http://www.valleytalk.net/showpost.php?p=56692&postcount=17

When in doubt, use the search button.

What does my post from another thread have to do with the current thread? :helpsmilie:


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[Fraydog]

It was in reply to http://www.valleytalk.net/showpost.php?p=57017&postcount=90 .

The first post you made on WUkie was http://www.valleytalk.net/showpost.php?p=56692&postcount=17 , which you can see was made at 01-02-2007, 07:41 PM. The second post you made, which you called "the original post you made", http://www.valleytalk.net/showpost.php?p=56739&postcount=19 , was made two posts down at 01-02-2007, 08:45 PM. I don't know where you make the claim that the post you said was the original one, because clearly it was the second post you made regarding WUKie.

All in all, that seems relevant to the thread to me.

[C0|db|00ded]

I'm still confused about your point?


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[Fraydog]

Don't make a claim that your original post on a poster is original when it is the second post you have made about that (now banned) poster. That's my point, perhaps I didn't say it clearly enough but I hope that clarifies it.

But hey, I'll let it go, both SIU and WSU won so we should both be happy. I'm just saying...

[C0|db|00ded]

That "second" post was merely expounding on my original post as clarification for sensitive Creightonians. My original intention was not to support the bigoted remarks but only the disparaging smack about the university itself thus I typed the additional post. I'm still a bit confused about your point/agenda but to clear up why I re-posted my "clarification post" was because silly posters like Blueblood tried to distort my original intentions.

To be exact, the quotes from Wichita's finest.


Wukie,
"They charge an enormous amount of money for tuition, but can't afford to build their own arena. Earth to Creighton, The Qwiet Center ain't yours!

Their campus is in the middle of ghetto.

Their Catholic."

Clod on Wukie,
"I can appreciate some of his sentiments.."

He's attempting to connect me to a certain remark that I don't endorse in a not-so-clever kind of way. Nevertheless, this thread is about why many Creighton fans are truly overwhelmed with jealousy and do not merely dabble in smack like I do.


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[Fraydog]

Ok, fair enough. :lol: :innocent:

[OmahaBen]

It's a great decade, eh?

The sports director of a Wichita, KS TV station, believing his microphone was off, shouted an obscenity on the air Thursday and will face "appropriate disciplinary action," the news director said following the incident. According to the Wichita Eagle, KSN-TV sports director Jim Kobbe had become frustrated with technical problems during the 6:00 p.m. newscast and shouted the F-word at a technical director as a pre-recorded feature was being played on the air.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Slamming a local sportscaster... now that really hits home for Shocker fans. Dang, I can't even show my face in public after that one. Owch.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[WSUbballer]

Ya, I'm gonna go home and hang myself now that one of our sports guys dropped the f-bomb on tv...

[creightonfever]

I just keep coming back to this quote and wonder what sense it makes:








:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[iSASO]

Creighton = Official Host of the NIT because they're too afraid to play above their comfort zone. Meanwhile they pray that WSU remains as mediocre as they are.

[blueblood]

Creighton = Official Host of the NIT because they're too afraid to play above their comfort zone. Meanwhile they pray that WSU remains as mediocre as they are.


Your slipping. Thats worthy of a about a 3rd post. Horrible smack for a 1196th post. Your kid must have an ear infection or something. Get some sleep and give it another try in the morning.

[iSASO]

How about this, then?

Creighton fans everywhere are pissed tonight because #19 LSU smacked #14 UCONN on national TV.

[doinit salukistyle]

Your slipping. Thats worthy of a about a 3rd post. Horrible smack for a 1196th post. Your kid must have an ear infection or something. Get some sleep and give it another try in the morning.

you better hope you dont make a post that is unfunny 10 months from now. he'll pull that quote that post if you do, and start a whole thread about it.

[iSASO]

Or maybe I'll make a post about SIU being "The Greatest Team in MVC History". That would be really embarrassing, no?

And speaking of embarrassing...neither one of you are good with language this time of day are you? Can we hear an excuse for that?

[Fraydog]

Of course, most people don't collect quotes with such a long memory.

There's more to life than what people say on message boards. Most do not care what is said here.

[blueblood]

How about this, then?

Creighton fans everywhere are pissed tonight because #19 LSU smacked #14 UCONN on national TV.


Hey, speaking of LSU, any clue how much their buy out is to not come to Wichita next year? Also, what's the date of that Syracuse game in Wichita next year again?

[doinit salukistyle]

Or maybe I'll make a post about SIU being "The Greatest Team in MVC History". That would be really embarrassing, no?

And speaking of embarrassing...neither one of you are good with language this time of day are you? Can we hear an excuse for that?

Well, since you collect a bunch of quotes about what everyone has ever said, tell me when I ever said SIU was the greatest team in mvc history.

pulling the grammar card out...pathetic...I think I'm chalking up to arguing with you is like arguing with a woman. A) you will use something someone said 10 months ago as fodder against them, B) you'll bring up something that has nothing to do with the argument, just so you can "win" C) your need to make sense isn't really there...enjoy the game today...woman

[jaypharmalum]

Hey, speaking of LSU, any clue how much their buy out is to not come to Wichita next year? Also, what's the date of that Syracuse game in Wichita next year again?

I imagine with the loss of Davis, LSU won't be as strong next year (not that they have bene fabulous this year). LSU playing at Koch will probably be comparable to Nebraska coming to Qwest in terms of RPI, etc. LSU may need the Shox to help their SOS rather than the other way around.

[DJShocker10]

Hey, speaking of LSU, any clue how much their buy out is to not come to Wichita next year? Also, what's the date of that Syracuse game in Wichita next year again?

The cash and the win were both pretty nice.:grin:

[blueblood]

Quick ISASO there are posters on the Bluejay board cheering for MSU to beat WSU. Quick, your missing some quotes.