SIU at Bradley

[Fetz86]

At this point, I dont see how Bradley win this game . . .Crouch is injured so our offense is not at full power, and honestly could we score enough on SIU anyway? Falker is going to destroy us inside, we couldnt stop him with POB, how are we going to know?

SIU 55 Bradley 45.

I'm in for a long night at Carver Arena:no:




:innocent: :sorcerer: :blushing1:

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

Bradley, you can help UNI get back into sole possession of first place. To do your part in this amazing quest, beat SIU! We both win. Yay. How fun. :original:

[MSNSaluki]

Bradley, you can help UNI get back into sole possession of first place. To do your part in this amazing quest, beat SIU! We both win. Yay. How fun. :original:

Nah, I don't like that idea.:original:

[MVC 4 Life]

Bradley, you can help UNI get back into sole possession of first place. To do your part in this amazing quest, beat SIU! We both win. Yay. How fun. :original:

What about CU and MSU? :innocent:

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

If "the plan" goes well, UNI will beat Creighton on Friday. And Southern Illinois will beat Missouri State on Saturday. Wichita State can beat Indiana State tonight too!

So, now that you have seen..."the plan," I am going to go tell "the plan" to someone else.:Jumpy:

[genius4point0]

I think BU has a chance but they are going to have to be lights out from 3 or get Falker into foul trouble.

[DawgieStyle]

in the spirit of karma this year, go bradley...lol

[genius4point0]

in the spirit of karma this year, go bradley...lol

I thought reverse karma was worse.

[troutangler]

Lets use this thread for updates instead of starting a new one like someone did for the WSU v. ISU blue game today.

[cpacmel]

Lets use this thread for updates instead of starting a new one like someone did for the WSU v. ISU blue game today.
My bad on that. The other thread was already 2 pages long and 32 posts on it though.

[cpacmel]

game stats here:

http://www.bubraves.tv/liveStats/liveStats.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&DB_LANG=&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=3400&DB_LANG=&IN_SUBSCRIBER_CONTENT=

[cpacmel]

SIU 19
BU 13

7 minutes to go, first half

[redbirdtim]

C'mon SIU...destroy Bradley!

SIU over BU right now 19-13. Braves shooting 28% from the field, 25% from 3, and 40% from the line. SIU 53-20-40.

[bleach]

Score?

[pbutler]

19-16 SIU

[bleach]

Thanks.

[FreddieMcSwain]

why teams don't exclusively play zone against SIU is beyond me...

[troutangler]

21-19 at the half? Is there a clear plastic cover over the rims and no one has found them yet? Geez.

[redbirdtim]

Bad shooting. BU is close because they shot better at the line (63% to 40%) and made one more 3 ptr. than SIU. 9 for 21 isn't bad, but 6-25 won't win you many.

[cpacmel]

Bradley on a 6-0 run to start the 2nd half.

Time-out SIU


Bradley 25
SIU 21

18 minutes to play

[bleach]

Go Braves! First UNI, then WSU, now SIU? Favorites falling.

[Funky Town]

dont worry cu wont:jays:

[bleach]

dont worry cu wont:jays:
Are they favored?

[cpacmel]

Mullins is down on the court. Possible broken nose they are saying.

30-27 BU

[redbirdtim]

Ouch...but if you had a choice of what to break as a basketball player, this would probably be it.

[tennis08tarheels]

Mullins is down on the court. Possible broken nose they are saying.

30-27 BU

With that score I would guess...1:30 left in the game?

[bleach]

Mullins is down on the court. Possible broken nose they are saying.

30-27 BU
Mullins is the one saluki I like! Hope he can play AFTER Saturday.:innocent:

[Yoshi]

Bad shooting. BU is close because they shot better at the line (63% to 40%) and made one more 3 ptr. than SIU. 9 for 21 isn't bad, but 6-25 won't win you many.

Too many unforced turnovers for SIU. :valley:

[cpacmel]

SIU 34
BU 32

12 minutes to go

[cpacmel]

Time-out SIU

BU 35
SIU 34

9:40 left in the game

[troutangler]

Are we sure this isn't two high school girls teams with no shot clock playing?

35-34 Braves with under 10 to play in the game...wow.

[cpacmel]

Are we sure this isn't two high school girls teams with no shot clock playing?
:rotflmao:

[azbirdfan]

any audio or video feed?

[cpacmel]

Time-out BU

SIU 39
Bradley 37

7:37 left

SIU 18 turnovers
BU 7 turnovers

[cpacmel]

any audio or video feed?

SIU audio

http://siusalukis.cstv.com/multimedia/silu-mbask07.html

[cpacmel]

Bradley 40
SIU 39

6:42 left in the game

Franklin 14 points for BU

Shaw 11 points for SIU

[azbirdfan]

thanks!

[cpacmel]

Bradley 44
SIU 43

5 minutes to go

SIU's ball

[cpacmel]

Bradley 46
SIU 43

4:04 left in the game

[cpacmel]

Bradley 46
SIU 45

3:37 left

Falker to the line after the time-out for 1 free throw.

[cpacmel]

SIU 46
BU 46

2:05 left

BU's ball

[cpacmel]

SIU 46
BU 46

1:33 left

Turn-over BU

SIU's ball

[cpacmel]

Timeout SIU

SIU 46
BU 46

SIU's ball

:59.7 on the clock (:35 on the shot clock)

[tpguy1]

who you for mel?

[cpacmel]

Tatum no good from 23 feet

Rebound BU

time out BU

:25 left

SIU 46
BU 46

BU ball

[cpacmel]

who you for mel?

SIU tonight:original:

[cpacmel]

Franklin scores from 15!!!

48-46 BU

:00.5 left

[azbirdfan]

great shot by Franklin! I'm actually for Bradley tonight. Call me crazy but I want it to be thick towards the middle and bottom of the conference, including SIU being 3-2. I don't mind Bradley getting this win tonight because there's still a lot of basketball to be played and a loss by SIU helps even things out.

[cpacmel]

Bradley 48
SIU 46

FINAL

[jaypharmalum]

Wow - in the last 2 nights:
UNI loses to IlSt
WSU loses to IndSt
SIU loses to Brad

Who had those selections even a couple of weeks ago? Thank God the Jays beat Drake last night or there would be no normalcy in this freaky conference.

[bleach]

YES! Thank you Braves!

[barkeep1967]

20 turnovers SIU deserved to lose tonight.

SIU gave this one away I hope it does not end up hurting too much.


Congrats BU.

[salukifan]

With 59 secs remaining in the game, siu let the clock run down before attemting a shot, why would you not want to shoot with sat 40 + secs remainging to ensure another possesion.

Who agrees or disagrees with this strategy:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :ranting:

[blueness]

Missouri State has officially become the "fifth" favorite this year

Victims thus far:

Creighton (preseason)
Shockers (early push)
SIU (wins and based upon past history)
UNI (were the only undefeated left)

Now

MSU

On the fence:

Indiana State :ermm:

[TNMSUFAN]

Hmmm...we don't want it.

Go :sycamores:!

[tpguy1]

I think my prediction of all valley teams finishing 9-9 in conference might happen :valley: :redbirds:

[genius4point0]

I think my prediction of all valley teams finishing 9-9 in conference might happen :valley: :redbirds:

Doubtful

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

Missouri State has officially become the "fifth" favorite this year

Victims thus far:

Creighton (preseason)
Shockers (early push)
SIU (wins and based upon past history)
UNI (were the only undefeated left)

Now

MSU

On the fence:

Indiana State :ermm:

Let's hold up on anointing a "fifth favorite". There's a four-way tie for first place (three of whom have lost to one another in round-robin fashion); that tie should be broken before the "favorite" mantle can be claimed.

[DawgieStyle]

Lowery can't time manage to save his life. A 2 for 1 possession attempt was possible. 20+ turn overs. Only score what, 48 points? Heck not only did we lose, we deserved to, we deserved to get blown out to be quite honest. Geez.

[ValleyGuy]

You guys are being silly, acting like the Dawgs should have just strolled up to Peoria and rolled the Braves.

Last time I looked, BU is a quick, gritty team that is pretty damn tough at Carver.

BU's defense was also playing tonight and contributed to those SIU turnovers and poor shooting.

This isn't your father's MVC - there are no gimmies (except when UE goes to Springfield).

Give some credit to BU.

[bcg]

Bradley played a basic 2-3 zone for most of the game. I never thought I would see them give up only 46 points. Most of them were on second chance points. Lots of standing by SIU on offense and then they attacked the glass when a shot when up.

There's some fight in these Braves afterall.

[DawgieStyle]

You guys are being silly, acting like the Dawgs should have just strolled up to Peoria and rolled the Braves.

Last time I looked, BU is a quick, gritty team that is pretty damn tough at Carver.

BU's defense was also playing tonight and contributed to those SIU turnovers and poor shooting.

This isn't your father's MVC - there are no gimmies (except when UE goes to Springfield).

Give some credit to BU.

what game were you watching, SIU played awful and still almost won. SIU beat them selves tonight and deserved to lose, but it wasn't because Bradley was any good. They were just as bad. Awful game for both teams.

[XSaluki]

Good game Braves. You deserved every bit of that. The Braves played with intensity and if they would have hit a few more of those open shots, this wouldn't have been close.

The road is a killer and I am glad Southern has gotten a few of them out of the way. Although going home to MSU isn't looking like fun.

[rchif0]

All of this clock management and milking the clock thing sounds eerily familiar to how Barry lost at SLU and Creighton.

[ValleyGuy]

what game were you watching, SIU played awful and still almost won. SIU beat them selves tonight and deserved to lose, but it wasn't because Bradley was any good. They were just as bad. Awful game for both teams.

Typical...

You do realize that there was an opponent on the court and that SIU wasn't alone right?

I watched a game where two teams got after each other defensively, which contributed to a lot of contested shots with the shot clock winding down.

I suppose it's in the eye of the beholder, but I tend towards crediting the teams as opposed to diminishing one side by saying the other team beat themselves.

You aren't really contending that BU had NOTHING to do with what SIU did or didn't do tonight are you?

Stop defeating your own point in your posts.

[Fraydog]

So now everyone will say "they are who we thought they were" ala Dennis Green... and you know who will be saying that... :doh:

[Brave2001]

:braves: :braves: :braves: :braves:

We may not win the valley, but the valley championship runs through Peoria. So far MSU is the favorite....they did what WSU did last year....win at Carver.

:braves: :braves: :braves: :braves:

[txsaluki05]

Nice win Bradley. We gotta hit our free throws and stop throwing the ball away EVERY friggin time down the court. Painful game to listen to tonight; hopefuly we can take down da SWMSU bears this weekend.

:salukis: :valley:

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

All of this clock management and milking the clock thing sounds eerily familiar to how Barry lost at SLU and Creighton.

Except that it's not. The Ugly Dawgs' entire system is based on tough defense and methodical offense. They've got the slowest game tempo in the Valley, and the second-best defensive ranking. That's how they play. Clock management should be second nature to them.

The Bears run a mid-to-high-tempo motion offense, and they're quite happy to shoot the ball in transition. Their troubles against SLU and CU came when they established a double-digit lead, and then tried to slow the game down. In both cases, they were unable to hold the lead because (a) they missed crucial free throws and (2) their offense isn't built to run on a 10-second shot clock. The Bears run, or they stop; they don't have a "clock management" gear.

SIU generally wins when they hold the opposition in the low 60s. MSU's four lowest-scoring games of the season have been 50, 66, 70, and 74 points. (All three losses are found among those scores.) Saturday's game will be a battle of tempo -- the team that dictates the pace is likely to win.

[Aceman96]

1st time poster, but I've been readin this board for a few years now.

You people keep talking about giving credit where it is due. I understand. But, lets get this straight: Who called the clear out play against the zone with under a min. where Tatum dribbles at the top of the key, noone on offense moves, and he jacks up a 3 with 25 sec. left? This would have been only slightly more acceptable had the shot been whaled at the basket with over 35 left.

It's bad coaching by Lowery, bad play on Tatum's part, and bad move in general by the Salukis. Yeah, the Braves deserve credit for what they did. Les made a good call to go zone against SIU most of the game. I have no idea why no one else is playing zone against them. I'm sure Barry and Co. have figured out that much. Sat. will be tough for this bunch of Salukis.

However... a zone shouldn't cause 20+ turnovers for a team that's as "experienced" and guard heavy as SIU. PASS THE BALL!!! That's all it takes. Cutters to open areas, continuously, and lots of good, crisp passes!

Sorry about all of the fragments, and the lack of icons... I'm sure you will all jump me for being a negative, bad poster who doesn't credit the right players or teams or whatever, but this effort from SIU was un-inspired, and almost like it was a trap game. They didn't get up for it, and that starts at the top. Yeah, they guarded the 3, but, they didn't prepare to play solid O. Which in the big leagues is important, too.

Hopefully, we can turn it around for Saturday...

[Fetz86]

they didn't prepare to play solid O.

Do they ever???

I think this is BU's new biggest rival, most students care about beating SIU more than ISU.

[txsaluki05]

Do they ever???

I think this is BU's new biggest rival, most students care about beating SIU more than ISU.

We've showed it in a few games, most recently in our blowout win at Illinois State. If we can score consistently we can play with and beat anyone. Games like tonight, well, speak for themselves.

[AcePurple]

Hopefully, we can turn it around for Saturday...

So, Aceman96 is a Saluki fan?

[Scalare76]

1st time poster, but I've been readin this board for a few years now.

You people keep talking about giving credit where it is due. I understand. But, lets get this straight: Who called the clear out play against the zone with under a min. where Tatum dribbles at the top of the key, noone on offense moves, and he jacks up a 3 with 25 sec. left? This would have been only slightly more acceptable had the shot been whaled at the basket with over 35 left.

It's bad coaching by Lowery, bad play on Tatum's part, and bad move in general by the Salukis. Yeah, the Braves deserve credit for what they did. Les made a good call to go zone against SIU most of the game. I have no idea why no one else is playing zone against them. I'm sure Barry and Co. have figured out that much. Sat. will be tough for this bunch of Salukis.

However... a zone shouldn't cause 20+ turnovers for a team that's as "experienced" and guard heavy as SIU. PASS THE BALL!!! That's all it takes. Cutters to open areas, continuously, and lots of good, crisp passes!

Sorry about all of the fragments, and the lack of icons... I'm sure you will all jump me for being a negative, bad poster who doesn't credit the right players or teams or whatever, but this effort from SIU was un-inspired, and almost like it was a trap game. They didn't get up for it, and that starts at the top. Yeah, they guarded the 3, but, they didn't prepare to play solid O. Which in the big leagues is important, too.

Hopefully, we can turn it around for Saturday...

Great post!! I agree...this is all on C-Lo's head. Granted, BU threw the zone which the probably practiced for two frickin days...but that was a smart move by Les. The better coach won.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Great post!! I agree...this is all on C-Lo's head. Granted, BU threw the zone which the probably practiced for two frickin days...but that was a smart move by Les. The better coach won.

Wow. I never thought I'd see the day when SIU fans called Les a good coach. :grin:

Things have really, really changed around here....:lol:

[Aceman96]

Let me tell you what I think about C-Lo. I think he's a very good coach. Great recruiter. Great Preparer. Decent Motivator. Great in practice. Really teaches the game well. Not very good at game management. You can really see this as the game progresses. Ever noticed how SIU runs off about 8-12 points before the 1st media time out every game? Then, all of a sudden they go 6 or 8 min. without scoring? That killed them against BU. Yeah, Les made great adjustments. But, Lowery didn't! None. They're throwin zone at you... what do you do? Panic and turn it over? No...not acceptable for a team as good as SIU. All I said was that Les coached a better GAME... by no means do I think he's a good coach at all. I'm from Peoria (area) and so BU is on my back burner... but as a Saluki Alum, I'm cheerin hard for my Dawgs. Hopefully his assistants will get in his ear a bit more over the next few games.... Go Dawgs!