MVC: Mediocre Valley Conference

[kabullseye]

5 teams with two losses already.

Conservatively project forward and find no 14 win teams in the Valley. March Sadness, my friends, March Sadness.

[Nyghtewynd]

"This message is hidden because kabullseye is on your ignore list."

This function is positively INgenuous.

[WSUbballer]

Nice way to welcome yourself back, Kabey..

[March Madman]

Conservatively project forward and find no 14 win teams in the Valley. March Sadness, my friends, March Sadness.

One word comes to mind: "poseur".

"The streets shall flow with the blood of the non-believers!" -- The Great Cornholio

[kabullseye]

Nice way to welcome yourself back, Kabey..

It may effectively be of benefit to you to understand that having a team or two in the vicinity of the Top 25 is a good thing. As it stands so far, the Valley has pushed a pretender or so up close, just in time to fall off hard.

While the majority here enjoy this lovefest game of softball, getting into March Madness is a game of hardball.

Look back at the polls. Find our highest ranked team, and then watch them fall. WSU to start, then SIU, the Panthers, now Creighton. Perhaps MSU as well.

Having 4 teams ranked beyond 40 will not get 4 teams into the tourney.

Yes, Baller I am back. Posting the word "Wichitank" can quickly touch the wrong nerve. But hey, they were tanking, and the creativity of the term was actually pretty good.

Oh, by the way, nice show against Creighton. I knew all along that you guys had it in you.

[iSASO]

How many teams were in the Top 25 last year when the conference got 4 bids and sent two to the Sweet 16?

[kabullseye]

How many teams were in the Top 25 last year when the conference got 4 bids and sent two to the Sweet 16?

A nice time of year to promote "skating on thin ice". A real nice time of year.

[DawgieStyle]

alright boys, who let the donkey out of his cage?

[Ferocious Cat]

Answer iSASO's question Kabull....!

[DawgieStyle]

Answer iSASO's question Kabull....!

he won't....that's not why he's here, he's not here to discuss basketball, he's here to be a pain in the butt and to degrade everyone else, and even if you told him 2 + 2 = 4.....He'd still argue with you that you were wrong and some how he was right.

[MoValley John]

Is this Rasputin on another proxy server? It's time to let the mods do their job. If it were up to me, he would be :banned:

[Ferocious Cat]

The ability to block posts by a certain individual NEEDS to be extended to blocking an individual from representing a certain school.

[kabullseye]

he won't....that's not why he's here, he's not here to discuss basketball, he's here to be a pain in the butt and to degrade everyone else, and even if you told him 2 + 2 = 4.....He'd still argue with you that you were wrong and some how he was right.

OK dawg, have it your way.

Dawg's Math: 64 Tournament Bids - 10 Valley Teams = 54 Bids for Everybody Else.

[DawgieStyle]

OK dawg, have it your way.

Dawg's Math: 64 Tournament Bids - 10 Valley Teams = 54 Bids for Everybody Else.

what are you talking about? Are you high right now? When did I say 10 bids for the valley? I'm the least supportive person of the valley on VT, that is actually still a fan of the valley. I think 4 bids max for the MVC. If you actually took part in actual basketball discussion in other threads, you would know this.

[kabullseye]

Is this Rasputin on another proxy server? It's time to let the mods do their job. If it were up to me, he would be :banned:

Come on, John. Devil's Advocate and Food for Thought not in your vocabulary. Think about it, man. Project the records of the top Valley teams. Not conducive to getting four bids (as bad as you and I would like to see it).

[kabullseye]

what are you talking about? Are you high right now? When did I say 10 bids for the valley? I'm the least supportive person of the valley on VT, that is actually still a fan of the valley. I think 4 bids max for the MVC. If you actually took part in actual basketball discussion in other threads, you would know this.

And, if you understood the context of the original thread; you and I are probably in agreement.

At the pace at which the Valley is chewing up the (for that moment) top rated team(s), it could well look a lot more like 2 or 3 bids.

Most on here are Valley Blind.

For the sake of gaining your valued insight, give me your four. And you can have my 2 or 3.

[kabullseye]

The ability to block posts by a certain individual NEEDS to be extended to blocking an individual from representing a certain school.

Now that would be ferocious.

[Bird]

Its a good thing rankings have ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with bids to the NCAA tournament. Everyone college basketball fan who has a brain knows this. The RPI matters a whole lot more than the popularity contest that is the polls. If the MVC stays as a top 5 league (very likely as #6 is way behind) and we have 5-6 teams in the top 50 of the RPI, I think we get 4 in the tournament.

[DawgieStyle]

And, if you understood the context of the original thread; you and I are probably in agreement.

At the pace at which the Valley is chewing up the (for that moment) top rated team(s), it could well look a lot more like 2 or 3 bids.

Most on here are Valley Blind.

For the sake of gaining your valued insight, give me your four. And you can have my 2 or 3.

SIU

Mo. State

UNI

CU

After that its gonna take some work for Wichita to get back in, last night was a good step, but they can only lose 1 or 2 more games max. in my opinion if they hope to squeak in.

Indiana State is hard to leave out, but I don't think they are better than the 4 I listed, that said, if the valley were to get 5, they are next in line at the moment, however, I think they will fade down the stretch, sue me, that's just what I think.

Bradley.....dont' even get me started. Yes, they are in no worse shape than they were last year at this time. No they don't have Summerville or O'bryant, so I don't see them reeling off 10 of 12 to make the dance. Keep in mind at this time last year BU was not in the dance.

[MoValley John]

Come on, John. Devil's Advocate and Food for Thought not in your vocabulary. Think about it, man. Project the records of the top Valley teams. Not conducive to getting four bids (as bad as you and I would like to see it).

Devi's Advocate is in my vocabulary, as is Food for Thought. I also know of Sarcasm, Humor, Provocative and Flippant. I tend to work in sarcasm, yet usually have a point. I don't have a favorite Valley team, I just love to follow the conference, so I also have another word in my vocabulary, Objective. If you would have posted this, or any of your previous posts in any manner that would create true dialogue, regardless of your opinion, it would merit reading. I just draw the line when you are a tool for the sake of being a tool.

For the most part, I have nothing but good things to say about the state of Iowa, however, your diatribe is only suited for those toothless wonders living in the sewers of West Sioux City.

[kabullseye]

Its a good thing rankings have ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with bids to the NCAA tournament. Everyone college basketball fan who has a brain knows this. The RPI matters a whole lot more than the popularity contest that is the polls. If the MVC stays as a top 5 league (very likely as #6 is way behind) and we have 5-6 teams in the top 50 of the RPI, I think we get 4 in the tournament.

"ABSOLUTELY ZERO"? Please mail me some of what you have been smoking.

[kabullseye]

SIU

Mo. State

UNI

CU

After that its gonna take some work for Wichita to get back in, last night was a good step, but they can only lose 1 or 2 more games max. in my opinion if they hope to squeak in.

Indiana State is hard to leave out, but I don't think they are better than the 4 I listed, that said, if the valley were to get 5, they are next in line at the moment, however, I think they will fade down the stretch, sue me, that's just what I think.

Bradley.....dont' even get me started. Yes, they are in no worse shape than they were last year at this time. No they don't have Summerville or O'bryant, so I don't see them reeling off 10 of 12 to make the dance. Keep in mind at this time last year BU was not in the dance.

Creighton, MSU, and whoever wins Arch Madness.

[kabullseye]

Devi's Advocate is in my vocabulary, as is Food for Thought. I also know of Sarcasm, Humor, Provocative and Flippant. I tend to work in sarcasm, yet usually have a point. I don't have a favorite Valley team, I just love to follow the conference, so I also have another word in my vocabulary, Objective. If you would have posted this, or any of your previous posts in any manner that would create true dialogue, regardless of your opinion, it would merit reading. I just draw the line when you are a tool for the sake of being a tool.

For the most part, I have nothing but good things to say about the state of Iowa, however, your diatribe is only suited for those toothless wonders living in the sewers of West Sioux City.

Come on, John. Admit it, you have an allegience with the Shox. Not that that is a bad thing.

[DawgieStyle]

Creighton, MSU, and whoever wins Arch Madness.

How can you possibly put CU in over SIU, or for that matter, how do you put MSU in and not SIU. Yes, Mo. state has the marquee win over wisconsin, but SIU has more quality wins. Give us some of what you are smoking...my goodness. Almost every prognosticator out there has SIU in the dance right now, and you don't? CU? You're supposed to be the UNI fan, I'd put them in before Creighton right now, their non. conf. was twice as good as CU's.

Where or where do you come up with your stuff. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I'm a big loud mouth about that kind of stuff, but your opinion has to have some kind of factual basis or something based in reality for people to take you seriously.

[MoValley John]

Come on, John. Admit it, you have an allegience with the Shox. Not that that is a bad thing.

Maybe you should call out Cold and ask him. He knows everything.:innocent:

[Bird]

"ABSOLUTELY ZERO"? Please mail me some of what you have been smoking.

Well, none of the MVC teams who received bids last year were in the Top 25 of the final regular season polls. In fact, only SIU was in the top 30 of any poll, and that was at 30 in the AP poll. We had 3 teams getting votes in the AP and 2 teams getting votes in the Coaches poll. Of the 3 teams in the AP poll, MSU was receiving votes and Bradley was not. How did the rankings correlate to those 2 teams making the dance? Also, Northern Iowa wasn't getting any votes in either poll, yet made the dance. So yes, absolutely nothing to do with bids to the dance. The selection committee does not look at the rankings when they decide who receives bids.

Also, check rankings against seeds sometime - they don't line up for quite a few teams. You will see that RPI is a much better indicator of seeding. For example, CU was ranked in the top 20 of the last polls in Korver's senior year, but were a 7 seed. That puts them at what the committee sees as the 25-28 best team in the nation. That is about 8 spots lower than their ranking. Based on their ranking, they should have been a 5 seed. Also, Syracuse was solidly on the bubble last year and most thought they would miss the tournament had they not gotten hot in the Big East tournament. Yet, they were ranked 21 in the final regular season poll.

Sure most teams who are ranked will get a bid, but that is because their RPI and record will warrant it.

[kabullseye]

How can you possibly put CU in over SIU, or for that matter, how do you put MSU in and not SIU. Yes, Mo. state has the marquee win over wisconsin, but SIU has more quality wins. Give us some of what you are smoking...my goodness. Almost every prognosticator out there has SIU in the dance right now, and you don't? CU? You're supposed to be the UNI fan, I'd put them in before Creighton right now, their non. conf. was twice as good as CU's.

Where or where do you come up with your stuff. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I'm a big loud mouth about that kind of stuff, but your opinion has to have some kind of factual basis or something based in reality for people to take you seriously.

It's March Madness, not January Madness. Anyone can blather on about yesterday, Dawg. Be about tomorrow, be about tomorrow.

I would not bet against CU and MSU, as much as I would any other squad.

[DJShocker10]

Be about today, be about today.

Fixed.

[Fraydog]

Man, some of you take the bait way too easy. :laughing: