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bcrawf
02-05-2007, 04:12 PM
It's the only Valley game tonight, second part of UNI's Indiana swing, and second of four games in eight days...

UNI exploits Indiana States posts. Jordan Eglseder has his breakout game and goes for 10 and 6.

UNI 74
ISU 62

:panthers: :valley: :panthers: :valley: :panthers:

salukibob
02-05-2007, 04:19 PM
Go Sycs!

FearDaTrees
02-05-2007, 04:24 PM
I guarantee a win for the Sycamores tonight. You can talke it to the bank and heres why......I have been to 7 games this year and they are 7-0. I will be attending tonights game.

ISU-70
UNI-66

C. Holmstrom- 21 pts 5-8 3pt.

pantherhawk
02-05-2007, 04:25 PM
gonna be a tough one

pantherhawk
02-05-2007, 04:30 PM
If UNI can weather the storm of ISU shooting lights out, then they will be ight. ISU shot 20 some % on saturday, that ain't happening again. UNI just needs to pound it down low and not shoot the 3 ball everytime! I say UNI wins this one by a close margin.

UNI 64
ISU 60

Canevision
02-05-2007, 04:36 PM
If UNI can weather the storm of ISU shooting lights out, then they will be ight. ISU shot 20 some % on saturday, that ain't happening again. UNI just needs to pound it down low and not shoot the 3 ball everytime! I say UNI wins this one by a close margin.

UNI 64
ISU 60

17.1% I believe.

DoubleJayAlum
02-05-2007, 04:55 PM
I predict a UNI victory tonight. If UNI loses, it's bubble bursts and it will need to win the MVC tourney to get into the dance. A win doesn't get them in, but a loss is devastating.

bcrawf
02-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Greatest quote ever in your signiture, DoubleJay... I am laughing out loud...

ISUBob
02-05-2007, 05:06 PM
I hope this can be the break we need and finally get a win. This melt down is whipping my butt.

ISUBob
02-05-2007, 05:09 PM
I hope this can be the break we need and finally get a win. This melt down is whipping my butt.

I cannot even enjoy the dancing banana anymore.

jaypharmalum
02-05-2007, 05:22 PM
I really wish CU was playing Indiana State on the road right now instead of when we caught them earlier in the year. That's one I know Dana would like to have back.

For the benefit of the conference, I'll pull for UNI here and continue the separation between the top and bottom 5.

getreal4
02-05-2007, 05:33 PM
kitties have to win tonight or close the door on the NCAA at large opp. Can't lose to 3 out of the 4 cellar dwellars & still get a bid.

-Z-
02-05-2007, 06:54 PM
Sycamores leading 17-14 with 7:16 remaining in first. Wow!?!?

:bounceblue:

-Z-
02-05-2007, 06:57 PM
Sycamores 21-17, about 5:00 left in first

-Z-
02-05-2007, 07:01 PM
ISU up 25-21, 2:49 in first half.

Trees out rebounding UNI 16-6 and shooting a hot .45%

GO ISU!

-Z-
02-05-2007, 07:11 PM
ISU up 27-21 at halftime. Both teams shooting 40.9%

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:39 PM
42-39 InSU with 11 minutes left. The Trees have found their shooting touch, and they're playing pretty good defense and hitting opportune 3s. This will be an interesting finish.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:41 PM
44-41 InSU with under nine to go. Very clean game...a total of six fouls on the two teams so far.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:42 PM
Both Marshall and Tunnell (sp?) are starting to hit from the outside. InSU leads 47-41.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Timeout UNI after another 3...50-41 InSU with under eight left. The Trees are hitting their outside shots, and UNI is not.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Wirtz with the drive, and they're starting to open a healthy lead. 52-41 InSU with 5:50 left.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Moore with a BIG three off of a missed shot, and UNI calls timeout again. 55-41 InSU with 4:59 left.

E-Ville
02-05-2007, 07:54 PM
I never know what to expect out of the valley. This could hurt the Panthers

ISU87
02-05-2007, 07:55 PM
it's about time ISU found the shooting touch, ISU also out rebounding UNI 29-17 I think I heard??

ISU needs to win so they won't fall under .500 for the year.

sounds like a small crowd as well, have they announced attendance?

:sycamores:

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:55 PM
Still 55-41 InSU at the last media timeout.

LincolnJay
02-05-2007, 07:56 PM
With a poorly rated OOC, it's UNI = NIT.:ermm:

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:56 PM
it's about time ISU found the shooting touch, ISU also out rebounding UNI 29-17 I think I heard??

ISU needs to win so they won't fall under .500 for the year.

sounds like a small crowd as well, have they announced attendance?

:sycamores:

I haven't heard an announced crowd yet, but it looks like there are fewer people than on Saturday, and that was under 5K.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 07:58 PM
55-42 InSU with 2:30 left. The Cats couldn't throw the ball in the ocean right now.

ISU87
02-05-2007, 07:59 PM
I think ISU has only had maybe 2-3 games over 5000 in attendance this year, I know Butler and PU drew over 5k. Not sure about WSU and CU?

I haven't heard an announced crowd yet, but it looks like there are fewer people than on Saturday, and that was under 5K.

BradleyBrave
02-05-2007, 08:00 PM
Welcome to 4th place BU...and it's looking more and more like a date in the 4-5 game for the Braves. The question is whether it will be the Shox or Panthers meeting them there.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 08:01 PM
InSU promptly throws the ball away after a TO, and McKowen lays it in. 55-44 Trees with 2:05 left.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 08:03 PM
InSU turns it over again, but Stout misses the three, InSU gets the defensive boards (which they have owned for the past ten minutes), and Stinson gets fouled and makes one of two. 56-44 InSU with 1:46 left, and it's starting to look like the upset is pretty close to in the books barring a quick 12-0 run.

ISU87
02-05-2007, 08:05 PM
59-44 ISU, under one min. to go, looks like the 7 game losing streak is over, thank God!

Final

ISU 59
UNI 46

ISU goes to 12-11, avoiding dipping under .500 for the season.

:sycamores:

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 08:05 PM
InSU and UNI trade turnovers, and Moore hits the layup and is fouled. The FT makes it 59-44 InSU with 1:06 left. Absolutely inexplicable showing by the Cats in this one. Plenty of open looks, especially in the second half, but they didn't do anything.

The Cats stop fouling. Drive friendly everyone. The top three teams in the conference all now have inexplicable road conference losses, but UNI can afford theirs much less than the other two teams.

Pantherpower
02-05-2007, 08:05 PM
Unbelievable

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 08:06 PM
Final. InSU wins 59-46.

Webersback
02-05-2007, 08:06 PM
59-46 the final Indiana State a big win at home... The Panthers downward spiral continues....

Strike00
02-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Congrats trees.

Hate to say it, but the way UNI is playing they might be done with the wins this season. maybe Illinois State at home.

-Z-
02-05-2007, 08:08 PM
ISU wins 59-46

DSMPanther01
02-05-2007, 08:10 PM
We don't belong in the NIT with this kind of showing. :helpsmilie:

BradleyBrave
02-05-2007, 08:11 PM
Well, now UNI needs to try and stay out of the 6th spot if they plan on having any at-large hopes. The schedule isn't very kind from here on out. Beating EU the other night helps though, that's one I wasn't sure they'd get. Looks like it's NIT or bust for UNI.

BMull10
02-05-2007, 08:13 PM
Looking more and more like a 3 bid league.

DSMPanther01
02-05-2007, 08:16 PM
Well, now UNI needs to try and stay out of the 6th spot if they plan on having any at-large hopes. The schedule isn't very kind from here on out. Beating EU the other night helps though, that's one I wasn't sure they'd get. Looks like it's NIT or bust for UNI.

BUST!:cursing:

BradleyBrave
02-05-2007, 08:17 PM
If BU can finish strong and get the #4 seed, they might be able to get a 4th bid with a good showing in St. Louis. Outside of that, I don't see UNI or WSU contending for that bid. It's basically BU as the 4th team (if they finish strong) or a 3 bid league if WSU or UNI don't win the tourney.

Strike00
02-05-2007, 08:17 PM
We would pretty much have to win out. Its possible as UNI, when playing well, can play with anyone in the confernce, but the wheels have completely come off as of late.

outrebounded 35-19??? One thing with Jacobson as apposed to McDermott, when things go bad the team's attitude seems to reflect that with Jacobson at the helm.

Ferocious Cat
02-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Good game :sycamores:

Once again, Grant Stout doesn't show up in the first half. Senior leadership?

The Bears yesterday, now this today. I have had enough of Indiana teams wearing Blue & white. :banghead:

BearChief
02-05-2007, 08:19 PM
The problem with this from an MSU standpoint is that we simply cannot afford to lose at UNI now. A sweep by the Panthers would be a huge black eye to the Bears resume and leave the Valley needing an upset winner in St. Louis in order to just get 3 bids.

DSMPanther01
02-05-2007, 08:23 PM
The problem with this from an MSU standpoint is that we simply cannot afford to lose at UNI now. A sweep by the Panthers would be a huge black eye to the Bears resume and leave the Valley needing an upset winner in St. Louis in order to just get 3 bids.

Wow, the Panthers are thought of a black eye, I didn't think I would hear that this year. Unfortunately it is sad but true!

:ranting:

Strike00
02-05-2007, 08:24 PM
The problem with this from an MSU standpoint is that we simply cannot afford to lose at UNI now. A sweep by the Panthers would be a huge black eye to the Bears resume and leave the Valley needing an upset winner in St. Louis in order to just get 3 bids.

I wouldn't worry too much about losing to the panthers right now.

4-22 from 3. :no:

DSMPanther01
02-05-2007, 08:27 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about losing to the panthers right now.

4-22 from 3. :no:

I'm pretty sure I would have a better percentage if I took 22 half court shots.

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 08:28 PM
UNI's RPI is now under WSU (62 vs. 61), and InSU is back into the top 100 (95). UNI also has the worst SOS in the conference.

MSNSaluki
02-05-2007, 08:30 PM
I hate to say it, but I think the Valley only has four teams with at-large hopes right now - SIU, Creighton, Missouri State and Bradley. And, the Braves will fall off that list unless they win at SIU Wednesday night.

So, I'm thinking the Valley is a 3-bid league, too, unless one of the other 7 teams wins the conference tournament.

But have no fear ... it will happen. Elgin will make sure of that. He always does. Wichita State, Bradley, UNI, Evansville, Drake, Indiana State or Illinois State will win in St. Louis. Guaranteed. Right now, my money's on the Shockers.

And the Valley will get four bids.:lol:

Strike00
02-05-2007, 08:32 PM
I'm pretty sure I would have a better percentage if I took 22 half court shots.

we can't make 'em but we wont stop shooting 'em.

BradleyBrave
02-05-2007, 08:38 PM
I hate to say it, but I think the Valley only has four teams with at-large hopes right now - SIU, Creighton, Missouri State and Bradley. And, the Braves will fall off that list unless they win at SIU Wednesday night.

So, I'm thinking the Valley is a 3-bid league, too, unless one of the other 7 teams wins the conference tournament.

But have no fear ... it will happen. Elgin will make sure of that. He always does. Wichita State, Bradley, UNI, Evansville, Drake, Indiana State or Illinois State will win in St. Louis. Guaranteed. Right now, my money's on the Shockers.

And the Valley will get four bids.:lol:

BU still has at-large hopes even if it loses to SIU. After SIU, every game is more than winnable. If BU finishes with 5 straight wins and a top 4 finish heading into St. Louis, they're a strong at-large candidate without winning the conference tourney. They'll be 21-10, 11-7 and 4th in a top 5 conference, have a strong RPI, great SOS, will be finishing strong, and arguably no bad losses (Tennessee Tech is in the top 150 and rising in the OVC). Wins at VCU and EU will more than offset a loss at SIU Wednesday.

ISUBob
02-05-2007, 08:39 PM
Sweet, I bet Royce is going to sleep better tonight. Here he is, the nanner:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :sycamores:

FearDaTrees
02-05-2007, 09:00 PM
I believe I said it right. Everytime I go to the game they win....I am proud to say that I was one of the 1000 people there tonight. W ealways go on runs. Win 7 lose 7 hopefully we can get on another 7 in a row.

MVC Fan
02-05-2007, 09:22 PM
The problem with this from an MSU standpoint is that we simply cannot afford to lose at UNI now. A sweep by the Panthers would be a huge black eye to the Bears resume and leave the Valley needing an upset winner in St. Louis in order to just get 3 bids.

Everyone needs to relax. The bottom is not falling out, there is plenty of season left, and BU, UNI & WSU ALL have time to get in position for at-large bids. If any takes care of the games they should win (in this conference, the only such games are home games), it won't take much else to be in the at-large discussion.

Missouri State is just fine right now, and a loss at UNI is not going to be a bad loss by the definition of anyone w/half a brain. The Bears just need to not collapse down the stretch and they're in-the win over Wisconsin is going to pay off big.

WSU still has a very favorable schedule from here on out. If they get to 20 wins (quite possible) they will have finished strong, scheduled tough OOC when the committee asks teams to (even if some of those teams didn't work out as well as expected) and will be in the at-large discussion, as they should be.

Bradley needs a signature road win. They have several chances coming up, and if they win at VCU, consider that a two-fisted blow-a big pump up for their at-large hopes, and a huge blow for any CAA at-large hopes. Get a win or 2 like that, keep winning the ones they're supposed to like they did all season, and they've got at least a 50/50 at-large chance.

This is a tough loss for UNI's hopes, no question...but if they beat Nevada, which will likely be a top 10 team by then, guarantee that carries more weight than a loss at a team that has also beaten Butler, Purdue & Creighton at home this yr. They are digging their own grave w/another stretch run slide, but they're not out of it yet.

Plus, all 3 of these teams have a chance to make hay in the MVC tourney. It is just way, way too early to be predicting doom & gloom.

BearChief
02-05-2007, 09:22 PM
BU still has at-large hopes even if it loses to SIU. After SIU, every game is more than winnable. If BU finishes with 5 straight wins and a top 4 finish heading into St. Louis, they're a strong at-large candidate without winning the conference tourney. They'll be 21-10, 11-7 and 4th in a top 5 conference, have a strong RPI, great SOS, will be finishing strong, and arguably no bad losses (Tennessee Tech is in the top 150 and rising in the OVC). Wins at VCU and EU will more than offset a loss at SIU Wednesday.

Where's the marquee win? As a Bears fan I wish I could feel confident about at-large hopes with a resume like that, but we've been snubbed far too many times. I hope you're right, because if Bradley is a bubble team MSU is safely in.

BearChief
02-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Missouri State is just fine right now, and a loss at UNI is not going to be a bad loss by the definition of anyone w/half a brain. The Bears just need to not collapse down the stretch and they're in-the win over Wisconsin is going to pay off big.



An MSU loss at UNI would mean a sweep by the Panthers. We can't afford that. We've already been swept by Creighton, and will have to fend off the Salukis (literally) in Springfield just to avoid being swept by them. Not to mention we have a road game at Wichta left.

DoubleJayAlum
02-05-2007, 09:43 PM
BU still has at-large hopes even if it loses to SIU. After SIU, every game is more than winnable. If BU finishes with 5 straight wins and a top 4 finish heading into St. Louis, they're a strong at-large candidate without winning the conference tourney. They'll be 21-10, 11-7 and 4th in a top 5 conference, have a strong RPI, great SOS, will be finishing strong, and arguably no bad losses (Tennessee Tech is in the top 150 and rising in the OVC). Wins at VCU and EU will more than offset a loss at SIU Wednesday.

I vote that SIU do what is best for the Valley and let BU win. That would place BU firmly on the bubble and position them for a 12 seed again this year. They did pretty well with that 12 seed last year.

And while your at it SIU, losing to CU would probably make CU a lock for the dance, so how about just dropping your next two? If you win the BB at Butler, you don't need the BU and Cu wins anyway. C'mon SIU - don't be greedy.:lol:

JCPanthers
02-05-2007, 09:49 PM
I guarantee a win for the Sycamores tonight. You can talke it to the bank and heres why......I have been to 7 games this year and they are 7-0. I will be attending tonights game.

ISU-70
UNI-66

C. Holmstrom- 21 pts 5-8 3pt.
Damn!!!! Why couldn't have you just stayed HOME!!!

MSNSaluki
02-05-2007, 09:58 PM
I vote that SIU do what is best for the Valley and let BU win. That would place BU firmly on the bubble and position them for a 12 seed again this year. They did pretty well with that 12 seed last year.

And while your at it SIU, losing to CU would probably make CU a lock for the dance, so how about just dropping your next two? If you win the BB at Butler, you don't need the BU and Cu wins anyway. C'mon SIU - don't be greedy.:lol:

I'll call Lowery tomorrow and give him your scenario and explaination.
I'm sure we'll do what we can to help out.:lol:

go bluejayss
02-05-2007, 10:08 PM
I vote that SIU do what is best for the Valley and let BU win. That would place BU firmly on the bubble and position them for a 12 seed again this year. They did pretty well with that 12 seed last year.

And while your at it SIU, losing to CU would probably make CU a lock for the dance, so how about just dropping your next two? If you win the BB at Butler, you don't need the BU and Cu wins anyway. C'mon SIU - don't be greedy.:lol:

LOL:clap:

pantherhawk
02-05-2007, 10:14 PM
well write UNI off the bubble, we can't get in even if we win out. Just a terrible game by the panthers and just stupid play by the guards! 4-22 3 point range? I would think after you have missed 10 i would stop shooting and work it down low! Well The valley is gonna be a 3 bid league again! That is if Mo State doesn't lose to lowly UNI on saturday.

JayJay
02-05-2007, 10:36 PM
I don't understand. Didn't the officiating crew get the word from the league office that the team with the higher RPI needs to win? Damn, Elgin can't even run a consipiracy efficiently.

Urbandale Panther
02-05-2007, 10:38 PM
I don't understand. Didn't the officiating crew get the word from the league office that the team with the higher RPI needs to win? Damn, Elgin can't even run a consipiracy efficiently.


It looks like Elgin has us etched in to win the tourney. :noexpression:

gosalukie
02-05-2007, 11:00 PM
I don't know which team's performance is more baffling.....the panthers or the trees! Congrat's Trees but hate to see UNI's at large chances going down the tubes, they need a serious win streak now. It is fun and also bewildering to be a fan of this conference.:valley:

getreal4
02-05-2007, 11:12 PM
Panthers may need help to get a NIT bid if they lose Thursday. :naughty:

troutangler
02-05-2007, 11:15 PM
I'm pretty sure Bradley was a 13 or 14 seed last year and not a 12. I know Kansas was 3 or 4, so Bradley couldn't have been a 12.

MSU HAS to win three of the four coming up starting Saturday: UNI, SIU, Winthrop, WSU. That means winning on the road against WSU or UNI. Doing that along with one win in St. Louis and I'll start to feel good about the tournament. Anything else and we have to win the Valley tourney.

ISUBob
02-05-2007, 11:40 PM
I believe I said it right. Everytime I go to the game they win....I am proud to say that I was one of the 1000 people there tonight. W ealways go on runs. Win 7 lose 7 hopefully we can get on another 7 in a row.

You better be at all the games from now on!! I mean it!!:banana: :sycamores:

Nyghtewynd
02-05-2007, 11:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Bradley was a 13 or 14 seed last year and not a 12. I know Kansas was 3 or 4, so Bradley couldn't have been a 12.

MSU HAS to win three of the four coming up starting Saturday: UNI, SIU, Winthrop, WSU. That means winning on the road against WSU or UNI. Doing that along with one win in St. Louis and I'll start to feel good about the tournament. Anything else and we have to win the Valley tourney.

I think that's pretty accurate. Those are four games against good teams, but only one against an NCAA-guarantee team, because the other three probably have to win their respective tournaments.

Mikovio
02-06-2007, 12:09 AM
I'm pretty sure Bradley was a 13 or 14 seed last year and not a 12. I know Kansas was 3 or 4, so Bradley couldn't have been a 12.

MSU HAS to win three of the four coming up starting Saturday: UNI, SIU, Winthrop, WSU. That means winning on the road against WSU or UNI. Doing that along with one win in St. Louis and I'll start to feel good about the tournament. Anything else and we have to win the Valley tourney.

The Braves were the 13th seed in the Oakland Regional and knocked off 4-seed Kansas and 5-seed Pitt, losing to 1-seed Memphis in the 3rd round....

DoubleJayAlum
02-06-2007, 09:12 AM
I stand corrected; Bradley was a 13 seed.

You guys are spending way too much time arguing the seed. Reread my post - it is obviously tongue-in-cheek (although I would like to see SIU lose both games).

Dawg_tired
02-06-2007, 09:15 AM
Is that the sound of another boisterous group of fans falling into the abyss of bad karma? Why yes, yes I think it is.:sycamores:

Dawg_tired
02-06-2007, 04:46 PM
Boy, only 46 points. The refs must have been really bad last night.

isubird3379
02-06-2007, 05:56 PM
I believe I said it right. Everytime I go to the game they win....I am proud to say that I was one of the 1000 people there tonight. W ealways go on runs. Win 7 lose 7 hopefully we can get on another 7 in a row.
you better be at arch madness

usmcdog
02-06-2007, 08:55 PM
Hey JayJay the officials are only allowed to assist the favorite if they can score over 50 points. Games under 50 are up to the players/ coaches.