Help.....Highest Valley NCAA Tourney Seedings???

[Studgunners]

Hi, can anyone tell me all the MVC's seedings 8 or higher over the years since the NCAA tourney went to 64/65 teams? Just curious what kind of respect the Valley has historically gotten. Thanks in advance.

[jaypharmalum]

Jays were a 6 seed during Korver's senior season.

[MSNSaluki]

Creighton was a 5 during Korver's senior season.
SIU was a 7 in 2005 and Wichita State was a 7 last year.
That's all I got, but I can't remember any better Valley seeds.

[IndyTreeFan]

I know you asked about seedings since the tournament was expanded to 64, but I can't resist.

Indiana State was the #1 seed in the Midwest Region in 1979...

Sorry, couldn't let that one go!!!

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

[Nyghtewynd]

I know you asked about seedings since the tournament was expanded to 64, but I can't resist.

Indiana State was the #1 seed in the Midwest Region in 1979...

Sorry, couldn't let that one go!!!

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

Back when the ball was square and filled with sawdust.

;)

[philcski]

Wasn't Tulsa a 5 a couple times back in the mid-90's?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Creighton was a 5 during Korver's senior season.
SIU was a 7 in 2005 and Wichita State was a 7 last year.
That's all I got, but I can't remember any better Valley seeds.

Jays were a 6, not a 5.

[E-Ville]

Wasn't Tulsa a 5 a couple times back in the mid-90's?

I remember Tulsa being a 12 and beating the 5 and then reaching the sweet 16. I believe they reached the sweet 16 twice and that's what gave Tubby Smith the publicity. They had some dang good team back then and might've been a 5 seed at one point.

When Evansville first joined the valley, Tulsa was the team that was dominating.

[blueness]

http://www.midmajority.com/conference.php?c=VALLEY&a=tournament

That is all of them.

[philcski]

I remember Tulsa being a 12 and beating the 5 and then reaching the sweet 16. I believe they reached the sweet 16 twice and that's what gave Tubby Smith the publicity. They had some dang good team back then and might've been a 5 seed at one point.

When Evansville first joined the valley, Tulsa was the team that was dominating.

I was partially right... they were a 5 in '97, but that was the year they moved to the WAC.
They were a 6 in '95.

[Studgunners]

http://www.midmajority.com/conference.php?c=VALLEY&a=tournament

That is all of them.


Thanks for the help. It's very interesting to see the Valley's seedings over the years and the historical lack of respect for the Valley in the "modern" era of college basketball. As I recall, Bradley was ranked all year in the top 10-20 when they had Hersey Hawkins in 1986 I believe and they only ended up with a 7 seed.

It also shows what a rich history the valley has had including multiple National Championships in the past. It also shows what a transient conference it's been too.

Right now everyone has SIU as a 4 or 5 seed, but even with their high RPI and impressive resume, I just get the feeling they will get a lower seed than all their rankings would lead you to believe. Say for arguments sake they end up ranked around 20-25 after all is said and done. That would slot them around a 5 or 6 seed. But will they really get seeded that high? Or will they end up in the 7-9 death seed? I would love to see SIU win out. I bet they would still only get a 4 seed. But maybe the Valley has accrued some new found respect based on the past couple of year's performances. Time will tell.

[shocker3]

Wichita St was a 6th seed in 1981 but their were only 48 teams invited back then. (6 seeds still played 11 seeds in the first round, but the top 4 seeds received first round byes back then).

[shocker3]

http://www.midmajority.com/conference.php?c=VALLEY&a=tournament

That is all of them.

Thanks for the link.

It is nice seeing that Indiana St. #1 seed in 1979.

Besides WSU beng a #6 seed in 1981, CU was a #8 seed.

In 1982, Tulsa was a #3 seed

In 1983, (the first year of the 64 team field), Illinois St was a 6th seed.

In 1984, Tulsa was a 4 seed and Illinois St was a 8th seed.

In 1985, Tulsa was a 6, Illinois St a 9, and WSU was a 11.

1985 is also the last year that the Valley sponsored football as a conference sport.

In 1986, BU was a 7 and Tulsa was a 10.

In 1987, UT and WSU were both 11 seeds.

In 1988, BU was a 9 and WSU was a 12.

1989 the Valley becomes cemented as a mid-major (the Valley dark ages were in full force, although you can see that from our seeds that we had begun moving that way in 87 and 88) with our tourney champ as the only berth and receiving a 14 seed.
:valley:

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

Back when the ball was square and filled with sawdust.

;)


Should I expect a royalty check in my mailbox next week, or are you buying me some Bar Cart at the Kiel? :banana:

[Nyghtewynd]

Should I expect a royalty check in my mailbox next week, or are you buying me some Bar Cart at the Kiel? :banana:

Last I checked, you make more than me now. You're buying the bar cart. :D

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

In 1983, (the first year of the 64 team field), Illinois St was a 6th seed.


The bolded part is incorrect. The "round" descriptors on the Mid-Majority page are erroneous; clicking on the year will link you to the results for that year's Tournament.

The 1983 Tournament (http://www.midmajority.com/tournament.php?y=83) featured 48 seeded teams, plus four "play-in" games, for a total of 52 participants. ISU (Red) lost a 6-11 game in the first round.

The 1984 Tournament (http://www.midmajority.com/tournament.php?y=84) featured 48 seeded teams, plus five "play-in" games, for a total of 53 participants. ISU (Red) won a first-round 8-9 game, while Tulsa (a 4 seed) got a first-round bye.

1985 (http://www.midmajority.com/tournament.php?y=85) was the year of the first 64-team bracket (and in my mind, the first true year of the March Madness Era.)

[Studgunners]

If SIU wins out or only drops one or two more games, will they hang on to the current projected 4-5 seed?

[brocks]

I know Bradley was an 8 against #9 Stanford in 1996 (and lost).

[okstarsfan]

If SIU wins out or only drops one or two more games, will they hang on to the current projected 4-5 seed?

No "bad" losses and I think they will end up as a 4 or 5.

btw...tonight would not be a bad loss, so if SIU would like to drop a game, it would be an excellent opportunity to do so :naughty:

[Studgunners]

No "bad" losses and I think they will end up as a 4 or 5.

btw...tonight would not be a bad loss, so if SIU would like to drop a game, it would be an excellent opportunity to do so :naughty:


Sorry to disappoint you the other night.

[Keita44]

IF SIU wins out, including the tourney, then I wouldn't be surprised if they snuck up to a 3 seed. They are rising quickly in the rankings and always get better as the year progresses. Big one this Saturday though