MSU vs. UNI Game Thread

[troutangler]

MSU is favored by 1.5 right now.

The Bears need to run and press in order to win this game. I just hope UNI doesn't shoot 65% from three again like they did in Springfield.

[pantherhawk]

Dont' worry UNI will struggle!

Mo state 85
UNI 60

Congrats Bears got a big win. I Don't even know why Barry is brining his starters, might as well send the bench and they will handle UNI just fine!

[dab212s]

If there is an MVC game that should be ESPN2'd tonight, it should be this one. Who cares about the jaybirds and the doggies. It's the BEARS and PANTHERS that I wanna see! Battling it out for tournament bid hopes. Mo State can stay alive another game, or flush it alllll away, down the toilet. UNI has a chance to sweep the Bears and make people think "hmm, maybe it is the Panthers that should be getting an NCAA bid...". If not, all is lost but a chance at the lowly NIT.


p.s. I like pizza :pizza:

[salukibob]

Time for the Panthers to growl and get back on track in hopes of staying in the running for a post-season bid. I like 'em at home in this one.

[Urbandale Panther]

Pretty hard to predict a win for UNI after they way they have been playing. Over the last two games we are 9-49 from behind the arc. You won't win many games that way.

[3baller]

If UNI can knock down a few triple tries they have a chance, but they way they've been shooting I'm going to say that won't happen. Honestly this is a bigger game for MSU. UNI has very faint chances of an at-large bid. They'll probably have to win the tourny to get in. MSU on the other hand is on ther right side of the bubble now and another win on the road would be big. This could play a big factor in UNI's NIT seed :Jumpy: No, no, I', still holding out hopes for a solid showing the next couple of weeks!

UNI - 71
MSU - 70

UNI goes 8-21 from downtown which will be just enough, including McKowen's shot at the buzzer to win the game! :banana:

[Ferocious Cat]

I feel that UNI could lose by 40, or they could some how pull out the W. So, I will take the average, and say Bears by 20...
I don't really think the Bears will win by 20, but with UNI lately I have no idea what to think. If they make close to 35% from 3, I will be ecstatic.

[BearChief]

I've had a bad feeling about this game for a week now.

UNI could either lose all confidence and roll over, or they could come out with a chip on their shoulder and play a great game. Hopefully the 4 games in 8 days stretch, including a game just 2 days ago will keep their shooting percentages in the dumps.

[gopanthers!]

Who knows how this one will turn out....Panthers need to win this (and the rest of their games) to keep ANY sort of tourney hope alive. This will be a tough game, but hopefully they can come out fired up enough from the recent losses to pick up the W. Plus, I am making a trip to Cedar Falls for the game, and I have yet to witness a Panther loss (hey, it worked for the guy from Indiana State the other night, maybe it will work for me! :bounceblue: )

[Nyghtewynd]

Everyone always gets healthy against MSU. I expect a very close game. Before this week, I thought MSU could absorb a loss here. Now the RPI numbers say that this is a must-win for the Bears. Their RPI cannot absorb a loss here.

[whatfun]

I am a UNI fan but I am honestly hoping Missouri State wins.

Why? Because I'm also a fan of the Valley and, honestly, we are not good enough this year to get to the tournament. We do not have the OOC wins to get us in with an 11-7 conference record (that's even if we won out at this point) and even beating Nevada (which I firmly believe will not happen) would not remedy that OOC schedule overall weakness.

Basically, UNI winning tonight would only hurt Mo State's shot at an at large bid and possibly reduce our conference's pool of bids to two. Our best shot at an additional bid is if Wichita State can make a run to finish out the year - they have the OOC schedule strength to get an additional bid with a weaker conference performance.

Most importantly, though, we have too weak of a backcourt to get to the tournament. I hope jacobson uses the rest of the season as an opportunity to play the future players more (backcourt and frontcourt - especially Eglseder) and develop them for the future. Brown has been way too lax the entire year and appears he needs to be pushed (or benched) to motivate him. And why don't we prepare josten for being the lead guard next year instead of suffering through mckowen dribbling the ball just past the half court line, then picking up his dribble, getting cornered and nearly causing a turnover - one of the many things he does that doesn't get into the stat sheets! That's our best bet at this point.

Finally, I don't believe this is negativism or not supporting my team. I feel this is in the team's best future interests for success.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

whatfun, I can't believe you just said that. Your team's best interest?... to lose?... ??????????

:doh:

[whatfun]

you missed my point.

i'm saying it is in their best interests to develop next year's talent more aggressively today. if they happen to win that way, that's great.

my point is our backcourt currently isn't good enough right now to win with our starters and that won't change by the end of this year. so, isn't it better to lose with the future players getting some more experience for next year than to plot along the same unsuccessful course and lose that way?

whatfun, I can't believe you just said that. Your team's best interest?... to lose?... ??????????

:doh:

[gopanthers!]

I am a UNI fan but I am honestly hoping Missouri State wins.

Why? Because I'm also a fan of the Valley and, honestly, we are not good enough this year to get to the tournament. We do not have the OOC wins to get us in with an 11-7 conference record (that's even if we won out at this point) and even beating Nevada (which I firmly believe will not happen) would not remedy that OOC schedule overall weakness.

Basically, UNI winning tonight would only hurt Mo State's shot at an at large bid and possibly reduce our conference's pool of bids to two. Our best shot at an additional bid is if Wichita State can make a run to finish out the year - they have the OOC schedule strength to get an additional bid with a weaker conference performance.

Most importantly, though, we have too weak of a backcourt to get to the tournament. I hope jacobson uses the rest of the season as an opportunity to play the future players more (backcourt and frontcourt - especially Eglseder) and develop them for the future. Brown has been way too lax the entire year and appears he needs to be pushed (or benched) to motivate him. And why don't we prepare josten for being the lead guard next year instead of suffering through mckowen dribbling the ball just past the half court line, then picking up his dribble, getting cornered and nearly causing a turnover - one of the many things he does that doesn't get into the stat sheets! That's our best bet at this point.

Finally, I don't believe this is negativism or not supporting my team. I feel this is in the team's best future interests for success.


I don't care how big of a Valley fan you are, I think you are insane if you WANT your team to lose :no: :no:

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

No kidding, in my opinion, UNI success is the primary focus for UNI fans. Valley success comes second. I am a huge Valley fan, but UNI is more important.

I want UNI to win this one. We still have a shot, as small as it is. And I want our guys to play like they want it! GO PANTHERS!:panthers:

[Ferocious Cat]

Whatfun...whatfansupport? That is a great way to support your team, and a couple seniors playing in their second to last home game. Seniors that played key roles in 3 tourney teams.

I would love to see you explain your logic to them in person. Maybe Coach Jake is thinking the same thing,"Grant, Brooks, guys, go out and lose tonight! Make it look good, but lose. The Valley needs as many bids as possible, and you know all about how Barry and the Bears got burned last year. So lay down tonight."

Has Kabullseye returned?

Always
:panthers: :panthers: first
:valley: :valley: Second

[pantherhawk]

I am just stating the truth, I hope UNI wins, but the way we are playing and how we are so one dimensional it ain't happening.


UNI 60
Mo State 80

Until everyone on UNI's teams can accept their role, we ain't going no where. Our guards have to realize that they are passers first and shooters 2nd. Coleman and stout have to get more physical because they are our scorers! Guys off the Bench have to give us quality minutes and not be looking to score all the time. Be Patient on offense and work it down low! If we follow that criteria we can win out, but its all on our players now. How bad do they want it?

[dab212s]

I just turned it to FSN, and this game is on, awesome

[bleach]

MSU 30 UNI28 at half. Bears have had ALL their bigs on bench most of 1st half w/2 fouls each. Ahearn and Mckowen have been key for their teams. Look for good 2nd half. Go Bears! Get this road win, it's there for the taking.

[bleach]

MSU 38 UNI 31 Great ball movement by Bears.

[bleach]

MSU 46 UNI 36 10:37 left

[dab212s]

dang, that 7'1 feller is lookin pretty good for Northern Iowa

[bleach]

Coleman is a sore loser! A thug! Glad they took him out, although Egleseder is eating our lunch.

[bleach]

52-40 MSU 7 minutes left

[kyyle23]

UNI has just been lethargic, thats the only way I can describe it.

[shocker3]

UNI keeps haning in there. It is now 58-57 MOST with only 2:15 left in the game.

:valley:

[bleach]

58-57 MSU 2:15 left

[bleach]

60-57 MSU Chaney 2 throws made

[dab212s]

ahearn misses one and makes one, bears by 3... 7.3 secs left

[bleach]

61-58 MSU 7 seconds left

[dab212s]

6.6 secs left, lamberth shooting 1 and 1

Bears need to make this, UNI need them to miss

[dab212s]

scratch that, he's shooting 2

missed the first though

[dab212s]

made it, Bears by 4, 1 second left

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Chaney has a brain. I'm not so sure about Mitchell.

[dab212s]

62-58 Final

Bears win... that was a closey... dang McKowen kept bringing UNI back in the game

[bleach]

Bears win a big road game! 62-58. Ahearn was as mentaly tough as I've ever seen him!

[BearChief]

Wasn't pretty, but the Bears got the job done.

Nathan Bilyeu may have broken his hand late in the game. He had an icepack taped to it and didn't play the last 5 minutes or so. Would be a significant blow to the Bears depth if so, although Lamberth and Mitchell are more than capable of filling his minutes.

[bcrawf]

McKowen picked Ahearn CLEAN!! There, fans, is your difference down the strech.

UNI goes from should have been UP 1 to down 3. GAME SET MATCH...

[Tasmanian Devil]

I thought he got it clean too.

[bleach]

He did get it clean. The foul was for pulling his way through Ahearn to get the loose ball. Not saying it was a good or bad call, just that was what the call was.

[bcrawf]

He did get it clean. The foul was for pulling his way through Ahearn to get the loose ball. Not saying it was a good or bad call, just that was what the call was.

Then Ahearn's pulling on his jersey was??...

[BearChief]

McKowen picked Ahearn CLEAN!! There, fans, is your difference down the strech.

UNI goes from should have been UP 1 to down 3. GAME SET MATCH...

Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but MSU was up two at the time. At best it would have tied the game for UNI. Plus, he poked the ball clean, but reached around the other side and made some contact. Questionable call, but UNI earlier had gotten away with some major contact on a steal and breakaway layup too. And I can think of one time Lamberth got hammered in the HEAD on a layup attempt, he missed, no call.

Bad calls and no-calls happen. It's part of the game.

[BEARNUT]

Then Ahearn's pulling on his jersey was??...

After the fact.

I watched the game....I can see now what so many people are talking about with Coleman and Stout thuggery. I hate to be the one to bring it up, but who exactly broke Bilyeu's hand and did anyone see what happened in person? I would like an honest answer from someone who was at the game, please.

[bcrawf]

My fault, I was thinking about the missed three by Brown in the corner.

The thing that made me the maddest, however, was the fact that the refs let the game get out of control with the talking and overly physical play and then had the audacity to call the coaches over TWICE to tell them to get control of their teams.

Its pretty obvious that the Valley cannot get decent refs on Wednesday and Saturday. Why not go to playing exclusively Tuesdays and then either Fridays or Sundays. I really think that the officiating is holding this league back...

[bcrawf]

After the fact.

I watched the game....I can see now what so many people are talking about with Coleman and Stout thuggery. I hate to be the one to bring it up, but who exactly broke Bilyeu's hand and did anyone see what happened in person? I would like an honest answer from someone who was at the game, please.

I was there. It was so far away from the ball that I didn't even notice it until I saw him doubled over in pain. He made a motion like he got it caught in Travis Brown's jersey.

I don't think that this was a fair game to judge anyone as being a thug. I have the same feelings about Devan Mitchell right now. He went into UNI's huddle and was chesting up with two or three UNI players.

The ref crew was in so over their head they couldn't even dream of the surface. The Valley really needs to address it. The inconsistencies on both ends and the fact that they let it get totally out of control are inexcusable...

[BearChief]

I was there. It was so far away from the ball that I didn't even notice it until I saw him doubled over in pain. He made a motion like he got it caught in Travis Brown's jersey.

I don't think that this was a fair game to judge anyone as being a thug. I have the same feelings about Devan Mitchell right now. He went into UNI's huddle and was chesting up with two or three UNI players.

The ref crew was in so over their head they couldn't even dream of the surface. The Valley really needs to address it. The inconsistencies on both ends and the fact that they let it get totally out of control are inexcusable...

I hope that's true about his hand getting caught in a jersey. If that's what happened I think the worst it could be would be a broken or dislocated finger, rather than a broken wrist or hand.

I watched the game on TV, I noticed no thuggery either way. Deven Mitchell was upset about somebody holding on to his jersey, and what he did afterward was downright stupid. I was yelling at my TV for him to get the heck away before he lost us the game by getting t'd up. He typically plays with passion, but that's the first time I've seen him try to stir something up.

[Nyghtewynd]

Maybe your coach shouldn't have gotten in Deven's grill.

Bears should have won by 10+. Stupid basketball at the end of the first half and when up 10 with six minutes left made it closer than it needed to be. Hinson's addiction to the prevent offense nearly cost them the game. When it was straight-up offense, the Bears were the superior team. Big game on Tuesday.

[pantherhawk]

UNI SUCKS! LETS FACE IT, WE BLOW! Ben J is not a coach and our players are not all hyped up to what they were supposed to be! We are an average team with nothing! NIT NIT Here we come if we can win! Panther fans sorry, but this is a piss poor team with nothing but a bunch of Individuals on it! We need to get back to TEAM ball and start playing like a TEAM! Until we do that we are Middle MVC(bottom BIG TEN) team! lets face it the Big TEN is gonna get 4 or 5 teams in!

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

UNI SUCKS! LETS FACE IT, WE BLOW! Ben J is not a coach and our players are not all hyped up to what they were supposed to be! We are an average team with nothing! NIT NIT Here we come if we can win! Panther fans sorry, but this is a piss poor team with nothing but a bunch of Individuals on it! We need to get back to TEAM ball and start playing like a TEAM! Until we do that we are Middle MVC(bottom BIG TEN) team! lets face it the Big TEN is gonna get 4 or 5 teams in!

lets face it the Big TEN is gonna get 4 or 5 teams in!

RANDOM!!!!:cursing:

[Urbandale Panther]

UNI SUCKS! LETS FACE IT, WE BLOW! Ben J is not a coach and our players are not all hyped up to what they were supposed to be! We are an average team with nothing! NIT NIT Here we come if we can win! Panther fans sorry, but this is a piss poor team with nothing but a bunch of Individuals on it! We need to get back to TEAM ball and start playing like a TEAM! Until we do that we are Middle MVC(bottom BIG TEN) team! lets face it the Big TEN is gonna get 4 or 5 teams in!


We're in the Big Ten now? Whoa! It's quite obvious the Suckeye wagon has stopped to pick you up. Good luck on the Iowa message boards! Don't come back in a week after the hawks drop their next two.

[MissouriState]

First off...
On the McKowan foul on Ahearn, first McKowan hit him in the face before the ball was even stolen, then after the steal (which was clean) Brooks smacked him in the chest. Thats a foul in my book.

Second...
I couldnt tell what went on with Deven and the UNI bench, but Barry said on the post game show that Deven was walking by and someone just jumped off the UNI bench and attacked Deven basically. I dont know if thats true but it makes better sense than Deven stirring up trouble out of nowhere.

[Urbandale Panther]

First off...
On the McKowan foul on Ahearn, first McKowan hit him in the face before the ball was even stolen, then after the steal (which was clean) Brooks smacked him in the chest. Thats a foul in my book.

Second...
I couldnt tell what went on with Deven and the UNI bench, but Barry said on the post game show that Deven was walking by and someone just jumped off the UNI bench and attacked Deven basically. I dont know if thats true but it makes better sense than Deven stirring up trouble out of nowhere.


How would Barry know? He was nowhere near Deven when this happened. Nobody attacked anyone. The McKowan "foul" would not have been called 9 out of 10 times. Frustrating, but a part of the game. MSU has a good team and I hope they do can get into the tourney and do some damage.

[BeeLine]

It wasn't anything that big; on the tv replay it looked like Deven and the UNI player had been locked up as the play ended. They had a little trouble disengaging and as they did, Deven's jersey got yanked. He overreacted, was unfortunately in the area around the UNI bench just as they were entering the court for the timeout. He didn't go into their area, the area was moving towards the floor for the timeout.
The game was hotly contested, it was meaningful for both. Stuff happens, kids react. Time to move on.
Bears just need to keep focus and close the regular season out with a string of wins; second place is still a possibility and the two home games this week, SIU/Winthrop, could really solidify our NCAA chances with wins.

[BEARNUT]

I take back what I said about thuggery. I was a little overheated after the game was over because of the thought of losing our floor general. It's morning now and after reading some sensible posts by both teams fans I'm better off now than I was last night.

[Ron Mexico]

Bilyeu optimistic about hand injury
Lyndal Scranton
News-Leader


Missouri State senior forward Nathan Bilyeu was getting x-rays this morning on his left hand, injured in the second half of Saturday's 62-58 victory at Northern Iowa.
Bilyeu is optimistic that the hand is merely badly sprained, but even if it is broken he hopes to play without missing game action.

Bilyeu remembers Northern Iowa's David Gruber playing with a broken hand, and quite well, a couple of years ago with a soft cast. "And it's my left hand, not my shooting hand," Bilyeu said boarding the bus after the game.

Bilyeu was injured when he fell on the hand - with the 250 pounds of Northern Iowa's Eric Coleman on top of him - during a rebound scrum with just over seven minutes remaining. "I kind of heard it crunch," Bilyeu said of his hand. He did not return to the game.

Missouri State, which has won five in a row, plays host to 21st-ranked Southern Illinois at 7:05 p.m. Tuesday.

[Khan4Cats]

Interesting to hear an MSU fan calling UNI's post thugs. What about Drew Richards? Does he even attempt to play basketball, or his he merely auditioning for pro wrestling? Seriously, he had Stout in an arm bar one time down, tried to apply a full-nelson another. This after trying to drop an atomic elbow on him in Springfield. I think he has some kind of man-crush on Coleman too, for as many times as he was trying to take his uniform off.

I generally like MSU and their team. Bilyeu has been one of the players who has impressed me the most since he's been there, I hope his injury is not serious because he is a fun player to watch. But yesterday, I lost any respect for Richards and Mitchell. Sorry, you DO NOT go into another teams huddle, PERIOD. Should have been tossed from the game and the league should review to see about a suspension.

[Nyghtewynd]

Oh grow up. He didn't go into the huddle--he was pushed/yanked into it. One would also think that both Stout and Coleman are big enough boys that they can handle themselves.

[Dawg_tired]

Coleman's a thug in anybody's book. It's interesting that earlier in the year when I said that UNI wasn't all that the puddy tats jumped my shat in major ways. Trolled threads that I posted on to lambast me. Now that the season has progressed, the performance of their team has proven me right. They went from being in the "drivers seat" to being in the back seat.

[Nyghtewynd]

Note: I didn't say that Coleman was a "thug". I really don't get the use of that term as it is unless someone's playing with a .44. Coleman plays exactly the way he should play with his position and his body composition. MSU has never had an inside player like him for as long as I can remember, and I wish we did.

[pantherhawk]

Wow sounds like an interesting game, glad i didn't waste gas money or pay for a ticket to go see it. Sounds like UNI is letting their emmotions get the best of them. Well as for my earlier comment, all i was saying was that UNI is not good, no diss on the valley. the big ten rant is because i am sick of hearing everyone say we are 4 or 5 bid league and we are not. I am sorry, we are going to get 3 in and thats that. Should we 4 or 5 i think so, but it just doesn't happen, there is so much emphasis put on the MAJOR schools that the mid-major schools don't get any respect. I mean they are talking about Texas being a lock when they haven't beaten anybody and then i heard the best one last night Gonzaga could still get an at large berth, they just lost two of their better players.

[DUBulldog]

I mean they are talking about Texas being a lock when they haven't beaten anybody and then i heard the best one last night Gonzaga could still get an at large berth, they just lost two of their better players.

ummmm....one of those guys (Theo Davis) barely gets off the bench. Just as an FYI, Theo Davis originally signed with Iowa State....ISU fans thought the guy was an NBA lock.

[3baller]

First off, not sure about Nathan's hand? I saw the play and still didn't see what happened to him. Do you even know it's a broeken hand because it didn't look bad at all.

Second, the only reason that foul on McKowen upsets me is becaues the whole game they didnt' call all the chest bumbing and hands all over people up top, and then they make that call which completely takes the game out of the players hands. There is no way anyone can even argue that. And no he didn't hit Ahearn in the face, tivo'd it and watched it about 10 times. I thought Ahearn got Brooks in the chest with his forearm before any of it. On a steal earlier in the game when Brooks got that break away that was definitly a lot more of a fould than at the end of the game.

Also, here is exactly what happened on the second Double T. MSU was trying to pass the ball in and Josten's was pulling on Mitchell's (I think that's who it was) jersey. Not to be a "thug" or anything, just trying to either get away with a call or get a quick foul without any time running off. They didn't call it and MSU called a TO, both players were chirping a little bit. Then Mitchell shoves Josten's in the chest and Jared turned to go to UNI's huddle. Then Mitchell followed him in their chesting up with him and talking. The refs saw it and then waited til UNI Kwazdo responded to him before he called the foul. The ref was right on top of it and didn't have the gust to call the T. I don't mind him not calling it either because that would really have taken the game out of the players hands, but there is no way that was a double technical. Yes, Jared got away with a foul, but it was pretty obvious he was trying to foul Mitchell and they must have not seen it. Nothing dirty or illegal about it. It was really dumb of Mitchell to get involed because he could have easily cost his team the game.

Anyways, just venting a little. MSU is a better team than UNI right now, no secret to that. Ahrean had is good game, seemed like the first good one he's had against us. Hope Nathan's alright so you guys can make a run in the tournament.

[DSMPanther01]

UNI SUCKS! LETS FACE IT, WE BLOW! Ben J is not a coach and our players are not all hyped up to what they were supposed to be! We are an average team with nothing! NIT NIT Here we come if we can win! Panther fans sorry, but this is a piss poor team with nothing but a bunch of Individuals on it! We need to get back to TEAM ball and start playing like a TEAM! Until we do that we are Middle MVC(bottom BIG TEN) team! lets face it the Big TEN is gonna get 4 or 5 teams in!


PLEASE change your name from PantherHawk to ILoveTheHawkeyesAndOnlyFollowThePanthersWhenTheyAr eGood

You are insane, I have read post after post from you and it always seems to come back to the Hawkeyes, honestly pick a team and quit pretending to be a Panther fan!:bash: :bash: :bash:

:valley: :panthers: :valley:

[Urbandale Panther]

PLEASE change your name from PantherHawk to ILoveTheHawkeyesAndOnlyFollowThePanthersWhenTheyAr eGood

You are insane, I have read post after post from you and it always seems to come back to the Hawkeyes, honestly pick a team and quit pretending to be a Panther fan!:bash: :bash: :bash:

:valley: :panthers: :valley:

Panther Hawk gets owned:

http://PantherHawk.JustGotOwned.com/

follow the link.

[3baller]

I for one can't wait for the Hawkeyes to get good again so PantherHawk will stop patrolling these boards. You're black and gold shades have you seeing what you want. Let me guess, you are probably one of those guys that think Iowa could beat UNI and Drake if they got a chance to play them again? :Jumpy: Those people crack me up sometime!

[DSMPanther01]

Panther Hawk gets owned:

http://www.panther%20hawk.justgotowned.com/

follow the link.

That link doesn't work.

[DSMPanther01]

I for one can't wait for the Hawkeyes to get good again so PantherHawk will stop patrolling these boards. You're black and gold shades have you seeing what you want. Let me guess, you are probably one of those guys that think Iowa could be UNI and Drake if they got a chance to play them again? :Jumpy:

I personally want Iowa to be mediocre, you know, just good enough they don't fire Alford. He has been a great recruiter for UNI!
:grin:

[Urbandale Panther]

That link doesn't work.

should work, now try

[BeeLine]

We have one like that at Letsgobears, who's a KU fan who professes to be a Bears fan as well. He tends to make statements like whenever a Valley team beats an upper level BCS team it's an upset, and that if we want to be taken seriously by BCS posters then we have to get real and accept the Big 12 and the other BCS conferences are just better. His idea is that we get credibility by cowering and being thankful for any statements that indicate recognition by the BCS schools that we're a very good lesser conference, but we need to recognize " our place". Be seen but not heard, so to speak.

[Ferocious Cat]

Good game :bears:

First time we got to see the "real" Blake Ahearn, as he has never been impressive against UNI. He was jawing with the crowd and yelled,"BIG TIME!" after his last 3. Hoped we would make him eat his words but no luck.

There are thugs everywhere, but last night Mitchell takes the "Thug Life" trophy for the game. His wardrobe(one leg tight? I've seen the one arm sleeve, but one leg?) wins it for him.

Where was the MSU sign guy? I was hoping to see the "Start up the Tractor" sign.

Will the :panthers: win again?

Dawg Tired, we all know your a genius. You predicted UNI wasn't all that. But who is "trolling" who?

[Urbandale Panther]

Dawg Tired, we all know your a genius. You predicted UNI wasn't all that. But who is "trolling" who?

:yes:

[BearChief]

Good game :bears:

First time we got to see the "real" Blake Ahearn, as he has never been impressive against UNI. He was jawing with the crowd and yelled,"BIG TIME!" after his last 3. Hoped we would make him eat his words but no luck.

There are thugs everywhere, but last night Mitchell takes the "Thug Life" trophy for the game. His wardrobe(one leg tight? I've seen the one arm sleeve, but one leg?) wins it for him.



Ahearn has been known to to a lot of jawing with opposing fans. It's just part of his game. I don't necessarily like it, but it's just what he does.

Deven wears that because that's his bad knee. Earlier in the season he was wearing those compression pants on both legs and I think he didn't like it, so he just wears it on the bad leg. It's the equivalent of a knee brace.

[pantherhawk]

Actually I am an alumi of UNI and I can Cheer for whoever i want. I grew up a hawkeye fan because that's all kids grow up cheering for in the state of Iowa. Personally i didn't know of UNI until i was like 17 when i started looking at colleges. I root for both teams during the year, and i like to see both do well. All i am stating is that UNI is terrible i haven't seen a team with this much talent lay such a big egg! Its terrible and all i am stating about Iowa is they are improving as of late and looking better than UNI.

[Urbandale Panther]

Actually I grew up a hawkeye fan because that's all kids grow up cheering for in the state of Iowa.

If by "all" you mean less than half, then I agree wtih you.:bash:

[Ferocious Cat]

p-HAWK-

How can you honestly think that the Hawks would be doing well in the :valley: ?

Could Iowa beat MSU, CU, SIU, WSU, BU,etc.?
Iowa already lost to UNI, got stomped by Drake.

Iowa is playing better, but look at the competition? Minnesota? The Gophers would get stomped in the Valley.

If your going to be a dual fan, fine. But nobody here cares about your "other" team, which is obviously your preferred team.

[Ron Mexico]

First off, not sure about Nathan's hand? I saw the play and still didn't see what happened to him. Do you even know it's a broeken hand because it didn't look bad at all.

Second, the only reason that foul on McKowen upsets me is becaues the whole game they didnt' call all the chest bumbing and hands all over people up top, and then they make that call which completely takes the game out of the players hands. There is no way anyone can even argue that. And no he didn't hit Ahearn in the face, tivo'd it and watched it about 10 times. I thought Ahearn got Brooks in the chest with his forearm before any of it. On a steal earlier in the game when Brooks got that break away that was definitly a lot more of a fould than at the end of the game.

Also, here is exactly what happened on the second Double T. MSU was trying to pass the ball in and Josten's was pulling on Mitchell's (I think that's who it was) jersey. Not to be a "thug" or anything, just trying to either get away with a call or get a quick foul without any time running off. They didn't call it and MSU called a TO, both players were chirping a little bit. Then Mitchell shoves Josten's in the chest and Jared turned to go to UNI's huddle. Then Mitchell followed him in their chesting up with him and talking. The refs saw it and then waited til UNI Kwazdo responded to him before he called the foul. The ref was right on top of it and didn't have the gust to call the T. I don't mind him not calling it either because that would really have taken the game out of the players hands, but there is no way that was a double technical. Yes, Jared got away with a foul, but it was pretty obvious he was trying to foul Mitchell and they must have not seen it. Nothing dirty or illegal about it. It was really dumb of Mitchell to get involed because he could have easily cost his team the game.

Anyways, just venting a little. MSU is a better team than UNI right now, no secret to that. Ahrean had is good game, seemed like the first good one he's had against us. Hope Nathan's alright so you guys can make a run in the tournament.

I replayed and replayed on TIVO and the comment on Mitchell/Josten could not be further from the truth, UNI tried to get on him to get him a T because of the game situation

[bcrawf]

I replayed and replayed on TIVO and the comment on Mitchell/Josten could not be further from the truth, UNI tried to get on him to get him a T because of the game situation

Yeah, there are a lot of teams that have that built into their gameplan. Get down and then provoke one of the other teams players into a T and then get pissed when its called a double T.:no: :bash: :puke:

[bberilam]

It was clearly UNI's fault. That's all I know.

[Ron Mexico]

Yeah, there are a lot of teams that have that built into their gameplan. Get down and then provoke one of the other teams players into a T and then get pissed when its called a double T.:no: :bash: :puke:

Not saying it was a gameplan or anything of that type, but that simply he was egged on by members of UNI's bench

[DSMPanther01]

I grew up a hawkeye fan because that's all kids grow up cheering for in the state of Iowa.

I agree with you, I also grew up as a Hawkeye fan, but then I grew up and decided not to drink the kool-aid. At least you picked UNI over Iowa for college, one less U of I graduate on food stamps!

:panthers: :valley: :panthers:

[BEARNUT]

Laughable arguments by some (not all) Panther fans about who was at fault for the Deven Mitchell fiasco. Take off the blinders and actually look at what happened. Was Deven at fault for sticking around too long, sure, but he definitely didn't start the whole mess.

As for the Bilyeu situation, if Coleman was involved as stated by someone who was at the game then I take back my take back. Some people actually agree with me about Coleman's play. Do I like Colemans intensity, yes. Do I like some of the cheap shots and dirty play, no.

[gopanthers!]

Actually I am an alumi of UNI and I can Cheer for whoever i want. I grew up a hawkeye fan because that's all kids grow up cheering for in the state of Iowa. Personally i didn't know of UNI until i was like 17 when i started looking at colleges. I root for both teams during the year, and i like to see both do well. All i am stating is that UNI is terrible i haven't seen a team with this much talent lay such a big egg! Its terrible and all i am stating about Iowa is they are improving as of late and looking better than UNI.

Then who do you cheer for when UNI plays Iowa? Personally, it makes me sick when UNI students/ alums cheer against their own school, which happens quite a bit when we play Iowa or Iowa State. Hopefully that's changing, with recent success and new facilities, but seriously- have a little pride in your school!

[gopanthers!]

Laughable arguments by some (not all) Panther fans about who was at fault for the Deven Mitchell fiasco. Take off the blinders and actually look at what happened. Was Deven at fault for sticking around too long, sure, but he definitely didn't start the whole mess.

As for the Bilyeu situation, if Coleman was involved as stated by someone who was at the game then I take back my take back. Some people actually agree with me about Coleman's play. Do I like Colemans intensity, yes. Do I like some of the cheap shots and dirty play, no.


That's stupid. Just because Coleman was involved in a play, you assume it's dirty? It happened directly in front of me, and it looked like they got tangled up going up for a rebound, both fell, and Coleman ended up on top of Bilyeu. Nothing intentional by either player, it was just unfortunate that they landed the way they did. Injuries happen in basketball, and not necessarily because players are out "thugging" or trying to hurt opposing players. It's a part of the game. Hopefully Bilyeu's hand is ok, because he looked like he was in quite a bit of pain when he went to the bench.

[Nyghtewynd]

Darn it, I grew up an Iowa fan and I'm still an Iowa fan. When they play MSU, I'm rooting for the Bears every time and twice on Sunday. When they play Drake...well, I was rooting for Drake *this* year. Other years, I probably went the other way. :P

[Ferocious Cat]

Laughable arguments by some (not all) Panther fans about who was at fault for the Deven Mitchell fiasco. Take off the blinders and actually look at what happened. Was Deven at fault for sticking around too long, sure, but he definitely didn't start the whole mess.

As for the Bilyeu situation, if Coleman was involved as stated by someone who was at the game then I take back my take back. Some people actually agree with me about Coleman's play. Do I like Colemans intensity, yes. Do I like some of the cheap shots and dirty play, no.

Coleman wasn't even in the game when Bilyeu got hurt! :banghead:
Bilyeu was blocked out by Stout. As Josten blocked out his man they all came together, and Josten landed on him. So call Coleman a thug for other plays, but not one he was sitting on the bench for.:original:

I completely agree with you about the Mitchell situation. Last night, sitting 5 rows behind the UNI bench I felt differently.

[BearChief]

Nate had x-rays on his hand/wrist today. No broken bones, it's being described as a significant sprain and his availability will be determined by his pain level. Knowing Nate, that's not going to be a problem. Expect to see him play on Tuesday.

:bears:

[gopanthers!]

Coleman wasn't even in the game when Bilyeu got hurt! :banghead:
Bilyeu was blocked out by Stout. As Josten blocked out his man they all came together, and Josten landed on him. So call Coleman a thug for other plays, but not one he was sitting on the bench for.:original:

I completely agree with you about the Mitchell situation. Last night, sitting 5 rows behind the UNI bench I felt differently.


Really? I could have sworn it was Coleman that landed on him. Oh well, either way, hopefully he's not out for any significant amount of time....that would be a bad break for the Bears.

[Ferocious Cat]

[QUOTE=Ron Mexico]Bilyeu optimistic about hand injury
Lyndal Scranton
News-Leader
Missouri State senior forward Nathan Bilyeu was getting x-rays this morning on his left hand, injured in the second half of Saturday's 62-58 victory at Northern Iowa.
Bilyeu is optimistic that the hand is merely badly sprained, but even if it is broken he hopes to play without missing game action.
Bilyeu remembers Northern Iowa's David Gruber playing with a broken hand, and quite well, a couple of years ago with a soft cast. "And it's my left hand, not my shooting hand," Bilyeu said boarding the bus after the game.
Bilyeu was injured when he fell on the hand - with the 250 pounds of Northern Iowa's Eric Coleman on top of him - during a rebound scrum with just over seven minutes remaining. "I kind of heard it crunch," Bilyeu said of his hand. He did not return to the game.
QUOTE]

This could be the reason Coleman is involved since it was posted earlier. I watched the replay this afternoon. It happens with about 7 and a half minutes left.
Many times during a game I catch myself getting Coleman and Josten confused.:lol:

[salukibob]

Is there some way that Falker can get blamed for this injury? :fear:

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

Is there some way that Falker can get blamed for this injury? :fear:

This is the first time an MSU starter has suffered a serious wrist injury since Jermaine Dearman tackled Scott Brakebill from behind in 99-00.

Sorry, that's as close as I can get.

[Nyghtewynd]

I'm pretty sure that Tim Axley hurt his wrist when he was fiddling with his cigarette lighter back in 1993.

[3baller]

Laughable arguments by some (not all) Panther fans about who was at fault for the Deven Mitchell fiasco. Take off the blinders and actually look at what happened. Was Deven at fault for sticking around too long, sure, but he definitely didn't start the whole mess.

As for the Bilyeu situation, if Coleman was involved as stated by someone who was at the game then I take back my take back. Some people actually agree with me about Coleman's play. Do I like Colemans intensity, yes. Do I like some of the cheap shots and dirty play, no.


If you noticed in my post I didn't say Mitchell instigated the incident, I said Josten's was pulling on his jersey to get a foul. Then DM got upset and shoved him in the chest and started following JJ to the huddle. I'm pretty sure we have the same tape so I don't really see what you are talking about?

Also, Coleman doesn't play cheap or dirty. He plays hard and aggresive. He plays with more intesity than most big men so it probably looks like he's doing something illegal. Also, how many centers has the handles Coleman does? That drive and kick out to JJ to cut the lead to 3 was big time. Too bad we couldn't get a stop.

[BEARNUT]

Good arguments by 3baller. I can see your points and will certainly take it to heart. Thanks.