SIU @ MSU Game Thread

[Ron Mexico]

What do you guys think about this one? Does SIU relax at all after Creighton? MSU has been playing very well and really has not caught fire during the 5 game win streak (Not that I expect to do so against SIU, but anything is possible). I think the Bears sneak up and get some revenge for the first meeting. I assume we will have some fans up in Omaha for Tuesday.

Bears 66
SIU 62

:bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears:

[BEARNUT]

Who is Creighton playing on Tuesday?

[Ron Mexico]

Who is Creighton playing on Tuesday?

Northern Iowa at the Quest Center

[Dawgbit]

hmmmm.........am I the only confused person here?

[WSUbballer]

Is this game on tv?

[doinit salukistyle]

nm

[bleach]

hmmmm.........am I the only confused person here?
I assume he means there will be people in Omaha rooting for MSU against the Dawgs.

[salukibob]

Dawgs won't relax (I've heard we haven't had our rabies shot yet this year!) but I think this game means more to The Little General and his team and I expect Barry to be jumping out of the gym during this one! Let's see if the sportcoat hits the floor too! :salukis:

[Nyghtewynd]

Is this game on tv?

As far as I can tell, no. That doesn't make a bit of sense to me, but oh well.

[cuhoops]

:bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears:

[TNMSUFAN]

No TV but I think you can purchase the game off the MVC site and watch via the net

http://www.mvc-sports.com/liveEvents/liveEvents.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600

[bcrawf]

UNI/CU is the game on TV on Tuesday, ESPNU, 8pm...

[Ron Mexico]

No TV but I think you can purchase the game off the MVC site and watch via the net

http://www.mvc-sports.com/liveEvents/liveEvents.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600

That would be music to my ears TN, Do you know how much those broadcasts go for?....And yes to other posters I meant CU would root for us to get them back into contention for a regular season title, how that was confusing I dont know but the IQ in Carbondale isn't exactly through the roof......Nate Bilyeu will be available by the way, just a bad sprain so he will play according to however much pain he is in.:bears: :bears: :bears:
and even though CU is rooting for us I think I have to root for UNI :panthers: and hope after tuesday it looks like this...
SIU 12-4
CU 11-5
MSU 11-5

[TNMSUFAN]

Sorry Ron after looking into things a little more I don't see our game as an option. Someone on letsgobears.com said they thought the game was part of the package but I sure don't see it.

The package says 30 live events for $24.95 and also has some single games for $6.95. Just click on "register" and then "available packages".

Our new website says we are going to show all home games over the net but my guess is that won't work until JQH is built.

[txsaluki05]

SIU 64
MSU 61

:salukis:

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

Dear Missouri State Fans,

I know you would all really appreciate UNI to beat Creighton this upcoming week, but it won't happen. In fact, it is not even in the realm of possibilites. Combine the fact that UNI can't beat Creighton when we are good or at home, let alone when we can't throw the ball into the ocean while on a tiny canoe in the middle of the Atlantic, UNI is doomed from the beginning. But, we do appreciate the support. Good luck against SIU!

Sincerely,
UNI Fans.

[doinit salukistyle]

SALUKI VISION (http://www.nmnathletics.com/HomePage.dbml?ATCLID=33474&DB_OEM_ID=1200) for 6.95 you can watch the game and listen to our radio guys

[parkave25]

The SIU Vs Missouri State game will be on Channel 22 (Media Com. ) at 7:05 PM We can watch it on cable

[SalukiProf]

I will be brief. I had this pencilled in as a loss at the beginning of the season, and feel the same way now. PROVE ME WRONG :salukis: !

[DawgieStyle]

I'd actually rather win this game and lose the Butler Game. I'm more concerned about a conference title than a dumb bracket buster game.

[Nyghtewynd]

At first I thought this was pretty much a no-lose game in terms of the Bears' NCAA chances, but that's just not true. Look what happened between last week's ESPN Bracketology and this week's edition. MSU wins twice, including a decent road win at UNI, and they *drop* from a nine to a ten. If your memory isn't defective, this is the same thing that happened last year...the Bears kept declining even though they were winning at the end of the year. This isn't a must-win, but it's pretty close to one. The Bears need to defend their home court and get the best win that's left on the schedule.

[Ron Mexico]

SALUKI VISION (http://www.nmnathletics.com/HomePage.dbml?ATCLID=33474&DB_OEM_ID=1200) for 6.95 you can watch the game and listen to our radio guys

Or turn it down and listen to Art :bears:

[jt45]

I'd actually rather win this game and lose the Butler Game. I'm more concerned about a conference title than a dumb bracket buster game.
I'm with ya Dawgie. I think it will be a TALL order to win one let alone both of these games on the road. If we win the MSU game it goes along way to winning the Valley and first and foremost I'd rather do that that.

[JerryBearSeinfeld]

Bears 72
SIU 67

:bears:

[MSNSaluki]

If SIU has to lose a game this week, I hope it's to Butler.
A win tomorrow night would be a big boost to SIU's hopes for sole possession of the regular-season title.

[pawball]

If the game gets called similar to the Creighton game at SIU, yes, then Bears have a great shot at winning. Salukis are due for an off game on the offensive end.

[Nyghtewynd]

If the game gets called similar to the Creighton game at SIU, yes, then Bears have a great shot at winning. Salukis are due for an off game sometime this year, so it might as well be against MSU.

Fixed. :P

[troutangler]

Bears are -4.5 right now.

:ermm:

[Nyghtewynd]

I swear...Vegas bettors have a thing for MSU this year. Just about every line I read has MSU with a lot more points than I'd guess. If it were a pick-em, I'd take the Bears, but I don't like giving that many points.

[BearChief]

Those Vegas guys know their stuff. I mean after all, they've got money riding on it.......right? Right? :yes:


Salukis :bash: Bears

[shockerfan13]

Go SIU!

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

I swear...Vegas bettors have a thing for MSU this year. Just about every line I read has MSU with a lot more points than I'd guess. If it were a pick-em, I'd take the Bears, but I don't like giving that many points.

Vegas lines have become pretty easy to predict. They usually conform to the Sagarin predictions.

On a neutral court, Sagarin's ratings show MSU as a 0.14-point favorite. But the formula gives 4.08 points to the home team, so the Sagarin prediction would be a 4.22-point Bear victory. And since Vegas lines don't include quarter-points, the morning line of 4.5 is consistent.

For what it's worth, Pomeroy's predictions also point to a four-point MSU win, in a slow, 63-possession game. Tempo will show the way again, I think... the rout in Carbondale was a 58-possession game. Run, Bears, run!

[Nyghtewynd]

I'm hoping that the SIU scoring prowess carries over to tonight at least to the point where they want a faster-paced game than last time. If they don't shoot as well in this one, the Bears could take advantage of that.

[smacktalkermsu]

Sagarin and Kenpom are usually about the same.........and if they are good enough for vegas they are good enough for me.

I think SIU takes Butler to the cleaners.........and I think tonights game will be a close contest all the way......Who ever makes more free throws wins.

Bears 69
Dawgs 63

[kyyle23]

3-0 SIU in the first couple minutes of the game. Bilyeu is playing. Lots of turnovers by both teams so far, Falker has turned it over twice and MSU has turned it over 3 times

[Nyghtewynd]

Look, kids! Barry's letting SIU play their tempo! What a surprise!

[kyyle23]

6-0 SIU, Falker has 5 points so far. Media Timeout

[kyyle23]

Ahearn scores 2(of course) at the line. 6-2 Salukis

[Studgunners]

SIU will take a lead of 4 into the half and end up losing the game by 5. Final score Mo State 63 SIU 58. Here's hoping I'm wrong.

[Nyghtewynd]

Bears turn the ball over on a shot-clock violation. It doesn't look like "tempo" is going to be anything other than the model of a bad car tonight.

[kyyle23]

Its gonna be a slugfest, no doubt. But would we have it any other way? ;)

8-7 Salukis

[kyyle23]

Tatum buries a 3, 11-7 SIU

Bilyeu just turned the ball over with an illegal screen, which also gave him 2 early fouls

[kyyle23]

15-10 SIU, Falker scores again. 9 points for Falker.

Ahearn turns the ball over and the crowd sounds like they are getting pissed

[CreightonRx]

looks like godshawgod has returned to earth:banghead:

[kyyle23]

The Salukis are being really aggressive on the offensive end, but they are already in the bonus on the foul end. 19-12 SIU after an offensive foul which left Tatum limping. The crowd is pretty unhappy

[txsaluki05]

Mullins with a 3! 22-13 Dawgs!

[kyyle23]

The Bears are missing free throws, 22-15 SIU

[kyyle23]

22-18 SIU, the Bears are running

[bleach]

22-20 SIU 2:50 left Lots of fouls on SIU [like saturday] Maybe the refs are realizing this is basketball season not football!

[kyyle23]

27-21 SIU, Boyle in da hizzouse

[kyyle23]

Wow, MSU is 8 for 14 at the line. now 8 for 15, 9 for 16, lamberth(sp?) hits his last one

27-22 HALFTIME

[saluki42]

They just kinda stopped calling fouls on MSU there huh.

[cpacmel]

Foul trouble

SIU
Falker 2
Shaw 2
Young 2
Green 2
Boyle 2


Mo State
Mitchell 2
Bilyeu 2

[saluki42]

Foul trouble

SIU
Falker 2
Shaw 2
Young 2
Green 2
Boyle 2


Mo State
Mitchell 2
Bilyeu 2

There wasn't a call against MSU in the last 8 minutes there.

[bleach]

27-22 SIU at half. Bears 26% SIU 38%

[Ron Mexico]

There wasn't a call against MSU in the last 8 minutes there.


Awwwww

[dab212s]

maybe Dale will take over and score 20+ points this game and squeeze out a Bears victory

[smacktalkermsu]

MSU isn't known for Physical play.......and you guys are dribbling around for 33 seconds and shooting perimeter shots......do you expect fouls?

Blake you need to wake the heck up and show up for a big conference game.

Hinson......you can't play Fury against SIU.....I don't care.....He can't score against them and he can't shoot free throws......we got killed while he was in.

Figure it the F%#K out.......we play them 2-3 times a year

[Nyghtewynd]

Typical Bears performance in a game that means something so far. Missing FTs, letting the other team control pace...all we need is a big SIU run at the beginning of the half and a furious comeback at the end that falls just short, and it'll be complete. This is the *last* *game* where the Bears can improve themselves...the rest of the regular-season games can only hurt. There is no excuse for doing this over and over again.

[smacktalkermsu]

I know nate's hand is broken but can he please have 2 good games in a row one time this year.

[smacktalkermsu]

Thats *** i'm talking about Blake and Nate

[Studgunners]

SIU will take a lead of 4 into the half and end up losing the game by 5. Final score Mo State 63 SIU 58. Here's hoping I'm wrong.


So far I'm off just a point at the half. MO St will go on an early second half run and take a lead and then hold on for the rest of the game and pull away slightly to cover the spread by 1/2 point.

[bleach]

28-27 MSU Timeout SIU

[cpacmel]

6-0 run for Mo State

Time-out SIU

Mo State 28
SIU 27

18 minutes left in the game

[Nyghtewynd]

I can pretty much tell you the halftime speech:

1. Blake, you know the game's started, right? By the way, we're playing Illinois State. That's right, Blake...ILLINOIS...STATE.
2. You may want to take the ball inside against the big guy. He has a couple of fouls, so getting another one on him would be a good thing.

[bleach]

Shaw 4 fouls

[cpacmel]

Shaw picks up his 4th foul.

Falker only player in double figures with 11 points.

[bleach]

Bilyeau hits, 31-30 SIU

[cpacmel]

SIU 31
Mo State 30

15:44 left

Both teams shooting 34% from the field

[Nyghtewynd]

This game is still being played right in SIU's wheelhouse. Too many missed FTs and TOs for the Bears.

[Log]

Wow. Refs called a foul on MSU. Amazing.

[bleach]

This game is still being played right in SIU's wheelhouse. Too many missed FTs and TOs for the Bears.
It's alll baaad! We're doomed!

[shockball]

Score please. Thanks.

[cpacmel]

MO State 33
SIU 33

11:56 left in the game

Shaw 4 fouls

Young 3 fouls

[bleach]

Score please. Thanks.
OK, but it doesn't change that fast w/SIU involved. 33 all

[kyyle23]

tied at 33, SIU ball

[Nyghtewynd]

SIU is getting even on fouls all at once, and the "getting even" part has cost the Bears six points. Big turning point in the game.

[shockball]

OK, but it doesn't change that fast w/SIU involved. 33 all

My wife could give me a valentine present in between field goals. :valley:

[kyyle23]

35-33, Falker scores

[kyyle23]

Falker with 15 pts and 8 rebs

[saluki42]

Tyrone Greene is garbage.

[Nyghtewynd]

4 on Young.

[cpacmel]

Young picks up his 4th foul

Mo State 35
SIU 35

9:17 left in the game

[bleach]

Bears have been called for something like 12 fouls and about 11 offensive.

[dab212s]

4 fouls on Tony Young... Chaney shooting frows, makes first, makes second

35 up

[dab212s]

Bears doing full court press?

[saluki42]

19 fouls to 8 so far

[dab212s]

anyone know how much the box seats are gonna be in the new JQH arena?

[Nyghtewynd]

Cheney misses a front end of a 1-1 to take the lead. NCAA teams make free throws.

[kyyle23]

37-35 MSU, SIU is cold

[dab212s]

hot damn! breakaway layup for the BEARS LEEEEAADD!!!!!!

37-35 BEARS!

[cpacmel]

Team fouls

SIU 7

Mo State 5


Foul Trouble

SIU
Shaw 4
Young 4

Green 3

MO State
Richards 4

[Nyghtewynd]

Any other team in a situation like this would probably be down by 10+ right now. SIU is just that good of a team.

[cpacmel]

Time-out Mo State

Mo State 37
SIU 36

6:15 left in the game

[bleach]

Tatum 3 for 13 shooting mostly open shots. Don't guard him, CU tried that.

[bleach]

A CHARGE! On SIU this time.

[cpacmel]

Shaw fouls out.

Bilyeu to the line for 2

First one....GOOD

2nd one....GOOD

Mo State by 1

4:51 left in the game

[bleach]

41-40 MSU 3:34 left bears ball after TO.

[cpacmel]

Mo State 41
SIU 40

3:27 left in the game

Bears ball after the time-out

[dab212s]

AAAAIIIIRR BAAALLLLLL..... AAAAAIIIIIRRR BAAAALLLLLLLLLLL....

[fillmore]

shaw is the difference maker in this game. or non-difference maker.

[Nyghtewynd]

The Bears have had about eleventy billion chances to get a two-possession lead, and haven't been able to convert on any of them. The next team to make two shots in a row will probably win.

[tennis08tarheels]

This is the 15th game this year in which Drew Richards has had at least 4 fouls.

[cpacmel]

Team fouls

SIU 9

Mo State 5


Foul trouble

SIU
Shaw OUT

Young 4

Green 3

MO State

Richards 4

[dab212s]

blocking foul on Chaney, 6th bears foul of the half

[bleach]

ANOTHER charge on bears! Bears by 1 w/1:50 to go.

[Nyghtewynd]

Bears have had at least six-eight points waved off due to questionable charging calls.

[dab212s]

Falker scores, Bears by 1

[dab212s]

SIU 3-15 from 3's tonight, make that 4... Tatum drills one, SIU up 2 :doh:

[Nyghtewynd]

And SIU hits two shots in a row, and that may be enough.

[kyyle23]

Tatum hits a 3, SIU by 2

[Studgunners]

Score and time please! Tough to follow in NJ.

[kyyle23]

Ahearn with the chance at a dagger misses it, SIu with the ball, Tatum is fouled.

[dab212s]

Ahearn misses a much needed 3 ball, Chaney fouls Tatum... shooting 1-1

[Divergence]

SIU announcers making fun of MSU fans leaving early.

[kyyle23]

Whoa, Reis calling out the MSU fans for leaving early. LOL

[slukes]

Whay a bunch of cry babbies SIU guys are tough get knocked around and get back up Nice gutsy effort on an off night

[dab212s]

22 seconds left, Bears down by 3, Tatum shooting one free throw that could make it 4... or MISSSS!!! MISSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! :fear:

[Mc Bulldog]

Ahearn hits a half court shot at the buzzer .. BEARS WIN!

[kyyle23]

15.5 seconds left, SIU ball, 47-45 SIU

[dab212s]

dang, he made em... but chaney runs down and scores

2 point game, 15.5 secs to play... Saluki's ball

[shockball]

Ahearn hits a half court shot at the buzzer .. BEARS WIN!

Oh my God.






:lol:

[Nyghtewynd]

That really defines the legacy of these two teams, doesn't it? Tatum shows up at crunch time, and Ahearn misses the big shot.

[dab212s]

Ahearn hits a half court shot at the buzzer .. BEARS WIN!

I'll take Chaney shooting a half-courter... he used to mess around and shoot half courters left handed and drained em all day

[kyyle23]

Clemmons puts SIU up 49-45

[iSASO]

:salukis:

[Studgunners]

SCORE?????

[kyyle23]

Lamberth scores, 49-47, 4.5 seconds left, Tatum at the line

[Divergence]

:salukis::salukis:

[kyyle23]

51-47 SIU wins

[dab212s]

4.5 left, Lamberth scores on a second chance bucket, then Tatum is fouled shooting 2

[iSASO]

:salukis: :salukis: :salukis:

[txsaluki05]

SIU steals a HUGE road win!!!!!!! Bring on Butler!!!

:salukis:

[Divergence]

:salukis::salukis::salukis::salukis:

[kyyle23]

That was a git down and dirty shoot match right there. I didnt think SIU had the horses to outlast this game. So many fouls, so many.....

[iSASO]

:salukis: :salukis: :salukis: :salukis: :salukis:

[Divergence]

:salukis::salukis::salukis::salukis::salukis::salu kis::salukis:

[SalukiProf]

WOW. Gutty win.

:yes: :bounceblue: :lol: :clap: :banana: :Jumpy: :salukis:

[Studgunners]

SIU will take a lead of 4 into the half and end up losing the game by 5. Final score Mo State 63 SIU 58. Here's hoping I'm wrong.


Thank goodness I was wrong. I didn't have a good feeling about this one. Way to go Salukis. Keep it rolling.

[dab212s]

:oops:

dang, bears lost

I blame the stupid ref's for calling all those stupid charging calls!

stupid!

[jelly_81]

What a game. The Salukis showed a lot of heart playing through foul trouble and managing to hang in and get the win. The SIU guards did a great job down the stretch of knocking down their free throws to nail home the win. GO DAWGS
:salukis: :valley:

[Nyghtewynd]

Congrats to SIU. You are clearly the best team in the league.

Well, Barry, there really isn't anything else to say, is there? You were given EVERY SINGLE opportunity to win this game tonight. At least six out of nine other teams in the conference probably win a game like this. You got an officiating crew willing to call fouls on SIU. You got major players for SIU out of the game. And what happened? You ran out the same tired crap that you always do. You refused to control the tempo. Your players refuse to hit free throws. You have no clue how to produce at crunch time. You're the same team you were last year, and the year before, and the year before that.

So what's the result? You've been swept by the best two teams in the league, which means you lose any tiebreakers that don't involve sweeps. You've lost three conference home games, which is ABSOLUTELY, UTTERLY, COMPLETELY unacceptable. The conference is a heck of a lot closer to a two-team league than a four-team league. You inherited a team with just about everyone back and, at best, you will finish in EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE, and if you lose to either WSU or DU you will finish WORSE than last year.

So, Barry, you have three choices.
1. Win out the rest of the regular season--yep, Barry, the three finals game are now MUST-WIN GAMES.
2. Get to the finals of the conference tourney.
3. Prepare to weep openly on national TV on Selection Sunday.

[bleach]

SIU steals a HUGE road win!!!!!!! Bring on Butler!!!

:salukis:
Go git em Dawgs!

[Mc Bulldog]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Baywatch-Photograph-C12145676.jpeg

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[DawgieStyle]

ugliest basketball game I think I've ever watched. Worst officiated game for both teams I've ever seen (but evenly bad for both). Man alive, ugly game, but SIU wins a huge road game and is one step closer to winning the conference.

I guess bring on Butler, I don't really care about the bracket buster, the conference race is much more important.

What happened to Blake Ahearn? What was his final stat line?

Very athletic team Mo. state is, I hate playing you guys and Drake....you match up the best with SIU always. Its soooo frustrating to play you guys.

The more and more I think about it, I think many, my self included over look Jamal Tatum. He is just phenomenal almost every game. I know the talk has been Falker or Funk for POY, I think you gotta throw his name in there too.

End of Rambling.

[MSNSaluki]

I never thought we'd win at Missouri State.
Amazing.

[Nyghtewynd]

You want to know Blake's statline?

O-for-importantgames.

That pretty much covers it.

[pbutler]

:oops:

dang, bears lost

I blame the stupid ref's for calling all those stupid charging calls!

stupid!

You got that wrong, you are supposed to blame the refs for NOT calling fouls on SIU in all games they play. But since it is the same old blame the ref thing I guess it doesn't make much difference.

Then again if SMS just shoots high school level free throw percentages you would have won too....

[dawg]

Wow .. just wow ...

[Shockerman]

Thank you SIU! Once again a two horse race between CU and SIU. There won't be 4 from the Valley this year in the Dance thats for sure.

[Nyghtewynd]

Hinson: "We deserved to win the ballgame from the effort we put out on the floor".

This is why MSU has never accomplished anything. Hinson's trying to sell me (a) defense and (b) moral victories. I just don't think he gets it, and there's no sign that he ever will get it.

[bleach]

Bears play WSU next conf game w/1 game lead!

[DawgieStyle]

Thank you SIU! Once again a two horse race between CU and SIU. There won't be 4 from the Valley this year in the Dance thats for sure.

give me break. What was SIU supposed to go out and tank this game just to help the rest of the league get in the dance? Sorry, there were more important things at stake than some other teams NCAA tourney bid, namely the MVC title.

:chair:

[Nyghtewynd]

Bears play WSU next conf game w/1 game lead!

WSU won the first game, so the Bears and WSU are essentially tied. Whoever wins this game will finish third. And since the game actually means something, I don't like MSU's chances.

[Nyghtewynd]

Now the genius is talking about the importance of the twenty-win plateau. Barry, WINNING TWENTY GAMES DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

"I told the media that I wasn't concerned about offense tonight."

Ah, the return of that sweet, sweet, losing defense.

[txsaluki05]

Thank you SIU! Once again a two horse race between CU and SIU. There won't be 4 from the Valley this year in the Dance thats for sure.

You're blaming SIU for your team's performance this year, or lack thereof? Wichita had plenty of chances to win games this year, but they didn't. I'd rather have 2 or 3 solid, tourny-worthy teams dancing than 4 or 5 teams in with three of them getting bounced out right away.

If we only get two in but they both make deep runs, that still carries the conference banner extremely well.

[bleach]

WSU won the first game, so the Bears and WSU are essentially tied. Whoever wins this game will finish third. And since the game actually means something, I don't like MSU's chances.
MSU won the first game!

[Nyghtewynd]

MSU won the first game!

Oops...you're right. But WSU did beat CU, so they'll win any tiebreakers if MSU and WSU end up tied with WSU running the table. Same difference.

[doinit salukistyle]

Has anyone asked barry..."WHY THE HELL DID YOU GO BACK TO MAN AT THE END!?!?!"

I appreciate it though.

[Nyghtewynd]

Has anyone asked barry..."WHY THE HELL DID YOU GO BACK TO MAN AT THE END!?!?!"


That question answers itself, doesn't it? It's just another case of that sweet, sweet, losing Hinson defense.

[bleach]

Oops...you're right. But WSU did beat CU, so they'll win any tiebreakers if MSU and WSU end up tied with WSU running the table. Same difference.
Correct, IF WSU wasn't swept by CU?

[jt45]

Great effort by both teams! The Bears did play well enought to win but, and I'm not a Barry basher, Barry lost this one for ya. Start another streak Bears and your in the dance. I say win a couple and a couple more in the tourney and your dancing. Go Dawgs!

[tpguy1]

Congrats to SIU. You are clearly the best team in the league.

Well, Barry, there really isn't anything else to say, is there? You were given EVERY SINGLE opportunity to win this game tonight. At least six out of nine other teams in the conference probably win a game like this. You got an officiating crew willing to call fouls on SIU. You got major players for SIU out of the game. And what happened? You ran out the same tired crap that you always do. You refused to control the tempo. Your players refuse to hit free throws. You have no clue how to produce at crunch time. You're the same team you were last year, and the year before, and the year before that.

So what's the result? You've been swept by the best two teams in the league, which means you lose any tiebreakers that don't involve sweeps. You've lost three conference home games, which is ABSOLUTELY, UTTERLY, COMPLETELY unacceptable. The conference is a heck of a lot closer to a two-team league than a four-team league. You inherited a team with just about everyone back and, at best, you will finish in EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE, and if you lose to either WSU or DU you will finish WORSE than last year.

So, Barry, you have three choices.
1. Win out the rest of the regular season--yep, Barry, the three finals game are now MUST-WIN GAMES.
2. Get to the finals of the conference tourney.
3. Prepare to weep openly on national TV on Selection Sunday.

Wow, that's the first time I've ever heard players "refuse" to hit free throws. Make them run laps.

[bleach]

Wow, that's the first time I've ever heard players "refuse" to hit free throws. Make them run laps.
Mutiny on the hardwoods!

[SalukiProf]

Holy ****. TONY BOYLE just got an ESPN news highlight. PINCH ME.

[MSNSaluki]

There is still bad news for SIU fans.
Evansville holds the tiebreaker edge against us.:lol:

[Shockerman]

You're blaming SIU for your team's performance this year, or lack thereof? Wichita had plenty of chances to win games this year, but they didn't. I'd rather have 2 or 3 solid, tourny-worthy teams dancing than 4 or 5 teams in with three of them getting bounced out right away.

If we only get two in but they both make deep runs, that still carries the conference banner extremely well.

I think you SIU boys are a little touchy. I was referring to the fact that 1) SIU has helped our cause of finishing third and 2) SIU and CU continue to be the model of how to win in the Valley. I'm only a jerk when I refer to Evansville, the Valleys version of Baylor.

[dab212s]

You got that wrong, you are supposed to blame the refs for NOT calling fouls on SIU in all games they play. But since it is the same old blame the ref thing I guess it doesn't make much difference.

Then again if SMS just shoots high school level free throw percentages you would have won too....

well, just long as we blame the ref's for something.

dang frows! maybe next game blake will take it to the rack and get fouled a bunch to pad the team frow stats some more

[Nyghtewynd]

well, just long as we blame the ref's for something.

dang frows! maybe next game blake will take it to the rack and get fouled a bunch to pad the team frow stats some more

He can't do it in the next game. That game actually means something.

[doinit salukistyle]

He can't do it in the next game. That game actually means something.

i dont know night wind, with all this boo birding, i might have to take away that sportsmanship award you gave yourself.

[bleach]

WSU and MSU should end up with 3 and 4 seeds, if each makes semis in tourney 4 bids possible?

[Nyghtewynd]

i dont know night wind, with all this boo birding, i might have to take away that sportsmanship award you gave yourself.

It's sitting on my mantle right now, and it looks great, so you can't have it. So nyaaaaah. :)

[jt45]

I think you SIU boys are a little touchy. I was referring to the fact that 1) SIU has helped our cause of finishing third and 2) SIU and CU continue to be the model of how to win in the Valley. I'm only a jerk when I refer to Evansville, the Valleys version of Baylor.
Valley's version of Baylor.....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[douglasdmb]

Don't forget, Shox still have to play @ Drake and @ Creighton

[shockball]

Bradley could have something to say about the standings also.

Nice win SIU.

[Ricky Del Rio]

The mystery of stats.

How did the Doggies get 15 more shots than the Bars?

I can sorta reconcile the FGA, but I sure cannot get to 15.

I have changed my mind about the COY. I think Coach Lowrey gets it, hands down. He has done more with less than any other coach in the league.

When I look at the Doggie performances, I just have to say, "Wow."

Tatum, Young and Shaw went 6-32 and the Doggies still won. Only 18.8%.

Tatum, Young, Shaw and Mullins went 8-38 and the Doggies still won. Mullins raised the percentage to 21.1%.

The Doggies had another dismal performance by the bench - 4 points in 66 minutes of play. Also, the bench had 10 personal fouls, 6 turnovers, 6 rebounds and 1 assist.

While I have not studied all games, I suspect some other game stats are similar to the last game, but not as poor.

On balance, everybody should admire the job Coach Lowrey has done.

However, I must say, I don't think the Final Four is in the cards as the Doggie Lawyer has stated.