Royce

[ISUBob]

We all know that Waltman is done. Lets talk about replacing him. Any thoughts? They say Greg Lansing could be a candidate, but is he the real deal. Just a thought, if Alford gets fired at Iowa, could he be considered?

[Ferocious Cat]

I'll be amazed if Alford gets fired.

[cufan]

Even if he does get fired at Iowa, you don't want anything to do with the little prack. I sure as hell don't want him back in the MVC - and its not because I think he would be tough to beat.

[Bigcityp]

I'd take Alford in Evansville. He'd be able to bring the fans back and bring in the kids from around our state. As for the Tree's.. That town smells so bad that nobody would want to go there..

[Dawg_tired]

Kurt Kanaskie's available.

[ISUBob]

I'd take Alford in Evansville. He'd be able to bring the fans back and bring in the kids from around our state. As for the Tree's.. That town smells so bad that nobody would want to go there..

Now that was uncalled for.

[Bigcityp]

Being from Texas, have you been back to smell the armpit of Indiana???!!!:grin: :grin:

[IndyTreeFan]

Being from Texas, have you been back to smell the armpit of Indiana???!!!:grin: :grin:

Really, Evansville doesn't smell that bad... :naughty:

[ISUBob]

Kurt Kanaskie's available.

Dawg_tired, has it ever occurred to you that we do not take you serious? Could it be you are a joke?

[ISUBob]

Being from Texas, have you been back to smell the armpit of Indiana???!!!:grin: :grin:

Well as a matter of fact, I came back for the Purdue game. And, no KA KA smell Mr. smarty pants, it did not smell bad like it was when I was in college. From what the town folks say, the smelly companies have left town!! So, I will thank you for not being sarcastic!!

[getreal4]

Keno Davis wants to be a head coach

[ISUBob]

Keno Davis wants to be a head coach

Need help with 3 point shooting? Duh, nothing gets by you does it? Gosh, shall we make you a Valley coach? This guy has it all figured out now!!

[March Madman]

Bigcityp is partially correct. Terre Haute doesn't stink as bad as it did some time back, but still, who would want to come to ISU? They would have to wave some serious cash around to attract a coach that could put a team together to compete worth a crap in the Valley.

I fully rescind any positive statements I made about Waltman in early January. He's proven himself unable to compete in a big-time conference.

[bcrawf]

Steve Alford is as safe as he has ever been. He's actually done a pretty good job this year. I have always thought he was vastly underrated on the bench, you can question his recruiting but not his on the bench performance.

As for a replacement in Terre Haute... Steve Lavin??

[IndyTreeFan]

Steve Alford is as safe as he has ever been. He's actually done a pretty good job this year. I have always thought he was vastly underrated on the bench, you can question his recruiting but not his on the bench performance.

As for a replacement in Terre Haute... Steve Lavin??

If we replace Royce, that's exactly the idea we should go into a coaching search with. Get someone who we know is good, and can make us a contender. But no, we'll take the first warm body we find, probably Greg Lansing, because 1) he's cheap, and 2) he was easy to get, after having just gotten fired at Iowa.

But bcrawf has the right idea, I just don't see Indiana State doing something that makes that much sense...:banghead:

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

[Mick Taylor]

Steve Lavin?! Steve Alford?!

Where, pray tell, do you folks think ISU comes up with the money to pay these guys? It's all well and good to say ISU should have vision and go after these guys, but you can't pay what you don't have.

It's like going into an electronics store and wanting to buy a $10,000 flat screen top line plasma TV when you're making minimum wage at Wal-Mart. It makes absolutely no sense to believe that a "name" coach would come to ISU unless they were totally desperate to get back into coaching.

The only retread I can think of that might come to ISU is ex-Ball State coach Tim Buckley.

[MoValley John]

Steve Lavin?! Steve Alford?!

Where, pray tell, do you folks think ISU comes up with the money to pay these guys? It's all well and good to say ISU should have vision and go after these guys, but you can't pay what you don't have.

It's like going into an electronics store and wanting to buy a $10,000 flat screen top line plasma TV when you're making minimum wage at Wal-Mart. It makes absolutely no sense to believe that a "name" coach would come to ISU unless they were totally desperate to get back into coaching.

The only retread I can think of that might come to ISU is ex-Ball State coach Tim Buckley.

If I worked for minimum wage at Wal Mart, I would have my flat screen for free, it would just disapear of the dock. Anybody want to hire me?

[DUBulldog]

Dawg_tired, has it ever occurred to you that we do not take you serious?

Has it ever occured to you that 99% of what Dawg_Tired posts on here isn't intended to be taken seriously? :doh:

[MoValley John]

Has it ever occured to you that 99% of what Dawg_Tired posts on here isn't intended to be taken seriously? :doh:

EVERYTHING I post here should be taken seriously. Book it.

[salukifan]

They should give Larry Legend a call. Can you imagine seeing Larry Bird coaching on the sidelines of a MVC game. I know, I know that is a riduculeous idea.
But hell, its worth a shot, what do you think??

[ISUBob]

EVERYTHING I post here should be taken seriously. Book it.

WOW!!

[MoValley John]

They should give Larry Legend a call. Can you imagine seeing Larry Bird coaching on the sidelines of a MVC game. I know, I know that is a riduculeous idea.
But hell, its worth a shot, what do you think??

I don't think it's suich a rediculous idea. But I think it would be very tough to come up with the cash. Bird is a multi-million $$$ guy. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe ISU has the cash and somebody needs to pick up the phone and call French Lick.

[salukifan]

Good point, but,

If Larry Bird actually decided he wanted to Coach InSU, I dont think money would be the reason. I mean, I am sure he has plenty to live the rest of his life on. I just don't think his paycheck would be the motivation for or against coaching his former school.

[getreal4]

What $$$ range will the Trees offer a head coach? $ 200 ???

[Bigcityp]

What $$$ range will the Trees offer a head coach? $ 200 ???

Evansville doesnt' pay Merfeld that much..

[BearsCountry]

How about Barry Hinson, he would be a good fit for Indiana State.

[IndyTreeFan]

Two things - first, regarding "how can we get people like this when we have no money?" If Athletic Director Ron Prettyman is the fundraising genius he was made out to be during his hiring process, this should not be that big of a hurdle. He's had a year (at least) to prepare for this, and you would think that if he was planning on getting a new coach, he would have had the foresight to shake some money people down so he could buy a coach. Royce is the lowest paid coach in the MVC at about $135K, and I doubt that they would pony up much more for a new person, so we sit in the cellar and hire someone from Northeast South Dakota State - Platteville campus.

Second, regarding Larry Bird, if I were the AD, that would be my first phone call. It could certainly give LB a graceful way out of the Pacers' situation, and can you imagine the recruiting he could do? How would you like to get a phone call from Larry Bird asking you to play for him? And I doubt the money would be a serious issue. I say that because I think he would relish the opportunity to take his alma mater back to the promised land. When they retired his jersey a couple of years ago (against UNI), he actuallly cried when he talked about the loss in the Championship game being his biggest regret of his career. Now there's a guy who would entertain (if only for a moment) coaching at ISU.

Of course, that's probably a pipe dream, but it has as much chance of happening as our luring Steve Lavin away from his multi-million $$$ job at ESPN!!!

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

[FearDaTrees]

I would love to see Larry Bird a coach for ISU. I don't think he would have to be there for any longer than 3 years. Just think of the recruits they would get. He needs to do something for his alma mater. I dont even think he is a booster

[salukifan]

Since everyone thinks its not that far fetched of an idea, I'll add a few more comments.

Can you imagine what that would do for attendance anytime InSU came to town.

The Publicity that the MVC would get would be incredible, suddenly ESPN would be interested in broadcasting InSU games.

Someone mentioned the recruits they would get, I mean he could steal all americans away from Duke, UNC, UCLA, you name it; he could get almost anyone he wanted. They would probably dominate the league.

The bottom line is that this would not only be good for InSU, it would be great for the league.:valley: :sycamores:

[ISUBob]

It would be huge for our school and the conference. What about starting a campaign to get him to ISU:sycamores: :banana: :bounceblue:

[TreeHugger]

Bigcityp, Terre Haute was good enough for Larry "Legend".
E'ville HAS NEVER had anything that GREAT!!!:grin:

[salukifan]

I agree about starting a campaign and since I made the original post, when he takes the job and takes ISU and the MVC to the next level I'll take the credit.

Lets all email Larry Bird's website or something, who's with me?

:clap: for Larry Legend

[Ferocious Cat]

I'm with you.
Larry's first recruit...Michael Jordan's son. That would be worth a trip to T.H. to see Larry and Michael.

[Bigcityp]

Bigcityp, Terre Haute was good enough for Larry "Legend".
E'ville HAS NEVER had anything that GREAT!!!:grin:

Terra Haute was second choice after he couldn't handle Knight and play for Indiana. Probably would of went to UE since it's closer to French Lick, but the Aces weren't Div. I till 1977. As far as great players coming out of Evansville, Don't Diss Jerry Sloan buddy, nor Don Buse, or Gus Doerner. Probably before your time though!!!

[ISUBob]

I agree about starting a campaign and since I made the original post, when he takes the job and takes ISU and the MVC to the next level I'll take the credit.

Lets all email Larry Bird's website or something, who's with me?

:clap: for Larry Legend

I am, and if he comes, we will give you all the credit. Valley fans, start e-mailing Larry Bird!!

[dawg]

They should give Larry Legend a call. Can you imagine seeing Larry Bird coaching on the sidelines of a MVC game. I know, I know that is a riduculeous idea.
But hell, its worth a shot, what do you think??

We can dream can't we?

[IndyTreeFan]

Terra Haute was second choice after he couldn't handle Knight and play for Indiana. Probably would of went to UE since it's closer to French Lick, but the Aces weren't Div. I till 1977. As far as great players coming out of Evansville, Don't Diss Jerry Sloan buddy, nor Don Buse, or Gus Doerner. Probably before your time though!!!

You like to think you know, don't you? Indiana State was Larry's second choice after the first round of recruiting. He left IU after TWO WEEKS, not because he couldn't handle playing for Knight, because he never so much as attended a practice. He left because IU was too big. ISU was much like a second home to him, and because of the determination of Bill Hodges, Larry moved north. He really never considered anywhere else.

Evansville was never on his map, nor would it have been under any circumstances...

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

[SycEm]

I'm personally in favor of keeping Royce, but to put the possible replacement thread on a more realistic thrust, how about Brad Brownell?
http://wsuraiders.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brownell_brad00.html

All he has done is win at UNC-Wilmington (83-40 in 4 seasons, and they are absolutely awful in their first year without him now) and is currently in position to win the Horizon League at Wright State in his first year with players that had never had a season above .500 prior to this year. Add to that his Indiana ties (DePauw, U of Indianapolis, Evansville) and it seems to be a more realistic candidate.
:sycamores:

[Bigcityp]

I'm personally in favor of keeping Royce, but to put the possible replacement thread on a more realistic thrust, how about Brad Brownell?
http://wsuraiders.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brownell_brad00.html

All he has done is win at UNC-Wilmington (83-40 in 4 seasons, and they are absolutely awful in their first year without him now) and is currently in position to win the Horizon League at Wright State in his first year with players that had never had a season above .500 prior to this year. Add to that his Indiana ties (DePauw, U of Indianapolis, Evansville) and it seems to be a more realistic candidate.
:sycamores:


Shhhhhhhhhhhh... I was hoping for Brownell to come back and save Evansville (his home town) once we send Smurfeld packing after next season. Brownell's dad still goes to the games here in Evansville, and I think he'd get the fans back as well..

[IndyTreeFan]

I'm personally in favor of keeping Royce, but to put the possible replacement thread on a more realistic thrust, how about Brad Brownell?
http://wsuraiders.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brownell_brad00.html

All he has done is win at UNC-Wilmington (83-40 in 4 seasons, and they are absolutely awful in their first year without him now) and is currently in position to win the Horizon League at Wright State in his first year with players that had never had a season above .500 prior to this year. Add to that his Indiana ties (DePauw, U of Indianapolis, Evansville) and it seems to be a more realistic candidate.
:sycamores:


Interesting...one thing that could hold him back, though:

Assistant Coach: University of Indianapolis
Assistant Coach for Royce Waltman
Led Indianapolis to fifth place conference finish in 1993-94

All I ask is that we don't do something stupid, which unfortunately would be par for us.

[MSNSaluki]

Kurt Kanaskie's available.

That's some funny shiiiit!:lol:

[Dawg_tired]

Check out this guy's resume

http://www.gopsusports.com/basketballM/people/coaches/assistants.cfm?sid=2

[DUBulldog]

Check out this guy's resume

http://www.gopsusports.com/basketballM/people/coaches/assistants.cfm?sid=2

Wow....that is some unbelievable spin.....at least the outright lie that was originally on his bio are gone now.

[Dawg_tired]

They still have the biggest lie of all in the bio.

[SycEm]

Interesting...one thing that could hold him back, though:

Assistant Coach: University of Indianapolis
Assistant Coach for Royce Waltman
Led Indianapolis to fifth place conference finish in 1993-94

All I ask is that we don't do something stupid, which unfortunately would be par for us.

There are a lot of supporters of Greg Lansing that don't seem to think being an assistant for Royce is going to hold him back - at least Brownell has some head coaching experience. I think the bigger hurdle would be that he played for Royce at DePauw, so he might not want to take the job if he feels like Indiana State mistreats Royce down the stretch.

[IndyTreeFan]

There are a lot of supporters of Greg Lansing that don't seem to think being an assistant for Royce is going to hold him back - at least Brownell has some head coaching experience. I think the bigger hurdle would be that he played for Royce at DePauw, so he might not want to take the job if he feels like Indiana State mistreats Royce down the stretch.

You are quite correct. I don't get that whole "promote Lansing" thing. I doubt that you'd get Brownell for the reason you stated, plus he's only in his first season at WSU. Incidentally, I hear it was Brownell that turned us on to Trent Wurtz. Just a little side note for 'ya...

:bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue: :sycamores: :bounceblue:

[cufan]

Never mind Kanaskie, what about the coach listed below him named Hilliary. I can honestly say I have never heard of a guy named Hilliary. Reminds me of an old Johnny Cash song (my apologies to any other fellas named Hilliary).

[TreeHugger]

Terra Haute was second choice after he couldn't handle Knight and play for Indiana. Probably would of went to UE since it's closer to French Lick, but the Aces weren't Div. I till 1977. As far as great players coming out of Evansville, Don't Diss Jerry Sloan buddy, nor Don Buse, or Gus Doerner. Probably before your time though!!!

Bigcityp, once again your assumptions are totally WRONG. However, I appreciate you thinking that I'm a youngster. Try age 62. I personally watched Sloan, Buse, "Da Whale", and Humes and all the other great UE players play in the old ISU arena. Was there the night that Lenny Long knocked Buster Briley on his *** because Briley was racially insulting him. Refs didn't see this and nothing could be done. As for Buse, I have drank many beers with him and George McGinnis at a little bar in Rockville, IN when they both played for the Pacers. Buse was a great guy and alot of fun. This said, as good as many UE players were, they couldn't hold "Larry Legends" jock strap and to suggest otherwise is ignorance.:grin: