View Full Version : Drake vs SIU Thread
Keita44
03-02-2007, 11:45 AM
Does Drake even have a chance in this one?
One of my buddies simulated the game ten times on the college basketball video game (current year's version) and Drake won 7 of those 10. Could it actually happen?
Go :bulldogs:
FearDaTrees
03-02-2007, 11:56 AM
I wouldnt trust a video game but i truly do think that Drake will win this game. I just have a hunch about this one.
bcrawf
03-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Drake has a shot if they can dictate pace. If this game gets into the 70s or 80s Drake has a much much better chance than if its in the 50s or 60s. That said, I still think SIU wins, but a lot closer than everybody thinks...
SIU 68
Drake 65
Coachtrey
03-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Where can i go to listen to this game??:fear:
Well, it will be nice to at least be able to listen to the game while "working".
Prediction: SIU 64
DU 57
Where can i go to listen to this game??:fear:
http://www.valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=2865
Take your pick
Coachtrey
03-02-2007, 12:26 PM
http://www.valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=2865
Take your pick
TTY:fear:
9-3 Salukis five minutes into the game
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 12:55 PM
14-13 :salukis: All of Drakes field goals are 3 pointers...just to let you know. They are catching fire.
Drake draining 3-pointers now and SIU not hitting shots
SIU 14
DU 13
WSUbballer
03-02-2007, 12:56 PM
Why is SIU just chucking up threes? Are they trying to let Drake back in it?
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 12:57 PM
I think the 1 seed is catching up with them:grin: But really, Drake has really changed since the start of the tourney. hitting good shots. doesnt look like the usual drake...
I think the 1 seed is catching up with them:grin: But really, Drake has really changed since the start of the tourney. hitting good shots. doesnt look like the usual drake...
Not what I want to hear:fear:
SIU 16
DU 13
SalukiProf
03-02-2007, 01:02 PM
To anyone who is watching:
SIU missed 10 shots in a row. Why? Bad shot selection? Good defense? Simple bricklaying?
Jamar Howard 4 President
03-02-2007, 01:02 PM
Man I wish I was there!!! Good game so far.
Lots of Gold and Black in the stands considering the Shox don't play for another 8 hours!!
WSUbballer
03-02-2007, 01:04 PM
To anyone who is watching:
SIU missed 10 shots in a row. Why? Bad shot selection? Good defense? Simple bricklaying?
Bad shot selection.
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 01:06 PM
SIU was just running the clock down then trying to get a good shot, but couldnt. But now they are making some shots.
Salukis starting to score now
SIU 27
DU 19
SalukiProf
03-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Drake 19
SIU 30
half
Tatum tre with 4 seconds on the clock
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 01:20 PM
:bulldogs:
Sharp start to the second half for SIU
Drake 21
SIU 37
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Game being called the way SIU likes it called....
SalukiProf
03-02-2007, 01:37 PM
Welcome to the Tony Young show! :clap:
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 01:51 PM
Drake in the bonus already at the 12:59 mark.
Foul Trouble- Falker 3 fouls
SIU- 7 team fouls
SalukiProf
03-02-2007, 01:53 PM
Drake in the bonus already at the 12:59 mark.
Foul Trouble- Falker 3 fouls
SIU- 7 team fouls
Geesh Puppies - Killer Instinct means putting the game away, not Killing your opponents. :doh:
Drake 31
SIU 46
11:56 TV Timeout
SalukiProf
03-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Drake 38
SIU 52
7:55 TV Timeout
What was up with Stewart's quick foul out?
DB for POY
03-02-2007, 02:08 PM
Drake 38
SIU 52
7:55 TV Timeout
What was up with Stewart's quick foul out?
He got a T for saying something to the ref after the 4th
Keita44
03-02-2007, 02:45 PM
The refs sure did seem to realize who was wearing the SIU jerseys and who was wearing the Drake jerseys. Falker, on more than one occasion, came across the body of a Drake guy to block a shot. Then, when Al Stewart does the exact same thing, he gets the foul called. Then on top of that, Al Stewart hardly even reacts to the call and gets the technical. I'm not saying that this lost Drake the game, Drakes inability to run an offense and score when in need did that, but it definetly made an impact on the game.
On the other note, Tatum played magnificently and the SIU defense, as always, was amazing. They have one of the best defenses that I have seen ever. They could easily make a deep run in the NCAA tourney.
Congrats on the win SIU. Drake had a good season, but it is a shame to see it end in a game with horrible officiating.
Good luck to all the other MVC teams.
Go :valley:
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 02:49 PM
The refs sure did seem to realize who was wearing the SIU jerseys and who was wearing the Drake jerseys. Falker, on more than one occasion, came across the body of a Drake guy to block a shot. Then, when Al Stewart does the exact same thing, he gets the foul called. Then on top of that, Al Stewart hardly even reacts to the call and gets the technical. I'm not saying that this lost Drake the game, Drakes inability to run an offense and score when in need did that, but it definetly made an impact on the game.
On the other note, Tatum played magnificently and the SIU defense, as always, was amazing. They have one of the best defenses that I have seen ever. They could easily make a deep run in the NCAA tourney.
Congrats on the win SIU. Drake had a good season, but it is a shame to see it end in a game with horrible officiating.
Good luck to all the other MVC teams.
Go :valley:
Yes it was called to SIU favor, which their defense thrives off of.
DB for POY
03-02-2007, 02:52 PM
Another day another opponents fans bitching about the refs. :banana:
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Another day another opponents fans bitching about the refs. :banana:
Im not exactly a fan of drake, but whoever is playing SIU i like the opponent to win:grin:
MSNSaluki
03-02-2007, 03:08 PM
The refs sure did seem to realize who was wearing the SIU jerseys and who was wearing the Drake jerseys. Falker, on more than one occasion, came across the body of a Drake guy to block a shot. Then, when Al Stewart does the exact same thing, he gets the foul called. Then on top of that, Al Stewart hardly even reacts to the call and gets the technical. I'm not saying that this lost Drake the game, Drakes inability to run an offense and score when in need did that, but it definetly made an impact on the game.
On the other note, Tatum played magnificently and the SIU defense, as always, was amazing. They have one of the best defenses that I have seen ever. They could easily make a deep run in the NCAA tourney.
Congrats on the win SIU. Drake had a good season, but it is a shame to see it end in a game with horrible officiating.
Good luck to all the other MVC teams.
Go :valley:
The officials screwed the shiiiit out of Drake.
You guys ought to protest.:no:
SIUDAWG02
03-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Im not exactly a fan of drake, but whoever is playing SIU i like the opponent to win:grin:
Even in non valley games?
Keita44
03-02-2007, 03:22 PM
I still don't understand how Stewart got called for the foul and furthermore why he got the technical call. There was literally no delay between the two calls. All that Stewart did was put his hands up, and he gets hit with the technical. The MVC should send an apology to Drake, for ending the season like that.
Go :bulldogs:
DB for POY
03-02-2007, 03:39 PM
I still don't understand how Stewart got called for the foul and furthermore why he got the technical call. There was literally no delay between the two calls. All that Stewart did was put his hands up, and he gets hit with the technical. The MVC should send an apology to Drake, for ending the season like that.
Go :bulldogs:
Were you watching the game on TV? Did you have a microphone on his jersey? He obviously said something that the ref didn't like, but none of us know what that was. Maybe you should send an apology to the MVC for being an idiot.
Keita44
03-02-2007, 03:53 PM
Were you watching the game on TV? Did you have a microphone on his jersey? He obviously said something that the ref didn't like, but none of us know what that was. Maybe you should send an apology to the MVC for being an idiot.
Are you joking? How many times during that game did Falker go across a Drake player's body to swat a shot? That, by definition, is a foul. I don't care if the refs are going to call that or not, as long as they are consistent. Al Stewart went across the player's body to block the shot, they hadn't been calling the foul all game, and boom, there is the foul. If Al said something, which he probably did, the ref at most should have warned him, not given him the technical. That was a bull**** call and evidently everyone but you realizes that.
SiuCubFan8
03-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Are you joking? How many times during that game did Falker go across a Drake player's body to swat a shot? That, by definition, is a foul. I don't care if the refs are going to call that or not, as long as they are consistent. Al Stewart went across the player's body to block the shot, they hadn't been calling the foul all game, and boom, there is the foul. If Al said something, which he probably did, the ref at most should have warned him, not given him the technical. That was a bull**** call and evidently everyone but you realizes that.
Go cry on the DU board. No one wants to hear you whine like a little girl about officiating. Doesn't this get old with people?
getreal4
03-02-2007, 04:05 PM
easy here guys. SIU is a better team, Drake made a nice effort. Officiating didn't cost us the game, poor defense, bad passes, missed shots, etc cost Drake a chance at the win.
Keita44
03-02-2007, 04:09 PM
Did you watch the game? Get real (pun intended). That Al Stewart play was a major turn in momentum. I still think Drake would have lost, but the officiating was horrible.
getreal4
03-02-2007, 04:10 PM
Did you watch the game? Get real (pun intended). That Al Stewart play was a major turn in momentum. I still think Drake would have lost, but the officiating was horrible.
Dolph Jr? :grin:
Keita44
03-02-2007, 04:12 PM
Go cry on the DU board. No one wants to hear you whine like a little girl about officiating. Doesn't this get old with people?
You can't honestly say that you didn't see the difference in officiating. It was horrible. There was even a SIU fan on here that said so.
getreal4
03-02-2007, 04:12 PM
Real question now that the season is over, does Dr Tom hand off to Keno now?
SiuCubFan8
03-02-2007, 04:13 PM
You can't honestly say that you didn't see the difference in officiating. It was horrible. There was even a SIU fan on here that said so.
Over and over again it is the same thing. :banghead:
Keita44
03-02-2007, 04:16 PM
I hope not. The Dr. is just starting to turn the program around. He has been able to use his name to get some recruits, which has obviously helped out the program. I don't think he is that good of a game coach, but off the court seems to do pretty good.
I think that Keno taking over would be a big step backwards for the program. I don't know though, he didn't do too bad in the game that he was the head coach for this year. Give the Dr. at least 1, probably 2, more years and the team will be back near the top in the league.
Go :bulldogs:
Keita44
03-02-2007, 04:18 PM
Over and over again it is the same thing. :banghead:
I'm sorry, I guess that this never happens to the diamonds of the league (Carbondale) because you always get the edge in the officiating. Ask anyone else though and they will tell you how it is.
SiuCubFan8
03-02-2007, 04:31 PM
I'm sorry, I guess that this never happens to the diamonds of the league (Carbondale) because you always get the edge in the officiating. Ask anyone else though and they will tell you how it is.
Quit being a baby. Get better players and you might be able to beat the diamonds of the league.:grin:
Keita44
03-02-2007, 04:38 PM
I agree, Drake needs better players, but we are steadily getting better. I hope you got the diamond joke.
Good luck to :valley: !
MSNSaluki
03-02-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm sorry, I guess that this never happens to the diamonds of the league (Carbondale) because you always get the edge in the officiating. Ask anyone else though and they will tell you how it is.
Weak.:no:
Wait about 20 minutes and you'll have 50 Bradley and UNI people complaining about how bad the officials were in the second quarterfinals.
We get it ... the officials suck.
But that didn't cost Drake the game.
C0|db|00ded
03-02-2007, 05:05 PM
I'm sorry, I guess that this never happens to the diamonds of the league (Carbondale) because you always get the edge in the officiating. Ask anyone else though and they will tell you how it is.
I guess that this never happens to the diamonds of the league (Carbondale)
*Gag* -Pardon me! I threw up in my mouth a little bit when I read that phrase.. :sick:
T
...:cool:
Keita44
03-02-2007, 05:09 PM
What was that supposed to mean Coldblooded?
I realize that the officiating didn't cost Drake the game, and have said that several times on here, but you can't say that it didn't play a big role in the game.
SIUDAWG02
03-02-2007, 05:13 PM
Did you watch the game? Get real (pun intended). That Al Stewart play was a major turn in momentum. I still think Drake would have lost, but the officiating was horrible.
Then what are you complaining about? If it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game it is irrelevant.
DB for POY
03-02-2007, 05:13 PM
Clod has a hard time admitting where the best team in the valley resides
Keita44
03-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Then what are you complaining about? If it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game it is irrelevant.
I'm saying that in this game, it didn't make a difference. In other games, it could very well decide the outcome. The refs need to make the calls based on how they see it, not on the jersey the guy is wearing.
C0|db|00ded
03-02-2007, 05:35 PM
What was that supposed to mean Coldblooded?
I realize that the officiating didn't cost Drake the game, and have said that several times on here, but you can't say that it didn't play a big role in the game.
Describing the Carbondale program as a diamond would be the epitome of an oxymoron.
T
...:cool:
go bluejayss
03-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Even in non valley games?
I normally dont care for SIU. But in non valley, i guess ill go out on a limb and say i hope they win in the non conference part.:valley:
Mecha_Bulldog
03-02-2007, 05:52 PM
The officiating wasn't horrible, the game was just called to suit SIU's style. Nothing more to do but get stronger and give it right back to them next year. Good luck the rest of the way SIU.
getreal4
03-02-2007, 06:06 PM
The officiating wasn't horrible, the game was just called to suit SIU's style. Nothing more to do but get stronger and give it right back to them next year. Good luck the rest of the way SIU.
Dittos Mecha. And memo to SHC we have to compete on $$$ for good asst coaches. Huge priority! :original:
SIUDAWG02
03-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Bring on Bradley :salukis:
Old Spike
03-02-2007, 08:33 PM
The officiating wasn't horrible, the game was just called to suit SIU's style. Nothing more to do but get stronger and give it right back to them next year. Good luck the rest of the way SIU.
What game were you watching? SIU had 3 fouls in the first half and they were playing incredibly physical. The officiating was horrible. Would have Drake beaten the Salukis? probably not, but Southern sure doesn't need the help it gets from the stripes most nights (or days). Keita44 is right, personally I hope SIU gets their butts kicked tomorrow. BTW nice signs in your student section, nothing but the Saluki class we've all come to expect.
MVC 4 Life
03-02-2007, 08:42 PM
What game were you watching? SIU had 3 fouls in the first half and they were playing incredibly physical. The officiating was horrible. Would have Drake beaten the Salukis? probably not, but Southern sure doesn't need the help it gets from the stripes most nights (or days). Keita44 is right, personally I hope SIU gets their butts kicked tomorrow. BTW nice signs in your student section, nothing but the Saluki class we've all come to expect.
WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
dogdays
03-02-2007, 09:52 PM
The officials were crap but what game were some of you watching. DU didnt have it today. .SIU dominated for the most part and with 11 min to go SIU had 8 fouls and DU had one....talk about seeing things with rose colored glasses. SIU went 9-2 in the non con and 15-3 in the conference. They have been the best team in the league this year. The refs have nothing to do with that. Jeez get over it.
SIUDAWG02
03-02-2007, 10:14 PM
What game were you watching? SIU had 3 fouls in the first half and they were playing incredibly physical. The officiating was horrible. Would have Drake beaten the Salukis? probably not, but Southern sure doesn't need the help it gets from the stripes most nights (or days). Keita44 is right, personally I hope SIU gets their butts kicked tomorrow. BTW nice signs in your student section, nothing but the Saluki class we've all come to expect.
Jealous? Six straight Big Dance appearances what has drake done for the valley lately? You would think that if the refs are not calling the fouls on SIU other teams would step up and play physical D as well.
MSNSaluki
03-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Describing the Carbondale program as a diamond would be the epitome of an oxymoron.
T
...:cool:
Hey, quit posting on this thread and go camp out for your NIT tickets.:original:
Old Spike
03-02-2007, 10:59 PM
The officials were crap but what game were some of you watching. DU didnt have it today. .SIU dominated for the most part and with 11 min to go SIU had 8 fouls and DU had one....talk about seeing things with rose colored glasses. SIU went 9-2 in the non con and 15-3 in the conference. They have been the best team in the league this year. The refs have nothing to do with that. Jeez get over it.
This is a reasonable post and I am over it. You are right: 1) the officials were crap 2) Drake didn't have it today 3) SIU had another great season. I still hope someone else wins it to make it interesting. The Salukis are in and are a great team. Can't argue with that.
barkeep1967
03-02-2007, 11:25 PM
BTW nice signs in your student section, nothing but the Saluki class we've all come to expect.
I thought the D-2 opening sign was pretty funny actually.
You guys are going to have to give the drake fans a bit of a break. If you lost 17 straight games to any one team you would be a bit bitter also.
jelly_81
03-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Hey, quit posting on this thread and go camp out for your NIT tickets.:original:
WSU will not be playing in the NIT. They will be sitting at home hoping they can get the games on TV.
:salukis: :valley:
getreal4
03-03-2007, 07:21 AM
I thought the D-2 opening sign was pretty funny actually.
You guys are going to have to give the drake fans a bit of a break. If you lost 17 straight games to any one team you would be a bit bitter also.
Thanks for reminding us of the losing streak :no:
I wish Drake had SIU's system & coaches. I love that ugly defense.
I thought the D-2 opening sign was pretty funny actually.
You guys are going to have to give the drake fans a bit of a break. If you lost 17 straight games to any one team you would be a bit bitter also.
I didn't like the sign. If we'd been playing Witchita or something maybe, but holding that sign up against Drake is like kicking a sick puppy.
getreal4
03-03-2007, 08:31 AM
I didn't like the sign. If we'd been playing Witchita or something maybe, but holding that sign up against Drake is like kicking a sick puppy.
Bunch of us Drake fans stuck in Des Moines, liked the sign. We thought the sign could have been better designed, maybe the maker could have used a magic marker. :grin:
Some criticism is deserved after 20 years of futility.
Dawg_tired
03-03-2007, 09:53 AM
I thought the D-2 opening sign was pretty funny actually.
You guys are going to have to give the drake fans a bit of a break. If you lost 17 straight games to any one team you would be a bit bitter also.
Funny to who. Here's to SIU losing it's next game and being one and done in the tournament. Hope Lowry leaves too.
Mecha_Bulldog
03-03-2007, 09:53 AM
I thought the D-2 opening sign was pretty funny actually.
You guys are going to have to give the drake fans a bit of a break. If you lost 17 straight games to any one team you would be a bit bitter also.
The sign didn't bother me. I have better things to worry about than signs held up by fans. And don't worry about the streak; it'll end next year :grin:
MVC 4 Life
03-03-2007, 09:59 AM
The sign didn't bother me. I have better things to worry about than signs held up by fans. And don't worry about the streak; it'll end next year :grin:
you sound like a Cub fan. :grin:
SIUDAWG02
03-03-2007, 10:15 AM
Funny to who. Here's to SIU losing it's next game and being one and done in the tournament. Hope Lowry leaves too.
Thats a lot of wishful thinking.
Mecha_Bulldog
03-03-2007, 10:22 AM
you sound like a Cub fan. :grin:
There's a reason for that :grin:
SIUDAWG02
03-03-2007, 10:26 AM
There's a reason for that :grin:
You enjoy every season saying NEXT year is gonna be the year like the cubs fans have been doing for almost a century?
Keita44
03-03-2007, 11:06 AM
I think that if SIU lost tomorrow, it would help the Valley as a conference. Would be very hard for the NCAA to turn away a Bradley team plus the win over SIU.
As for all that bad stuff happening to SIU, no way. We need SIU to keep getting stronger. The more recognition they get, the more recognition the Valley gets overall.
Go :braves: , Go :bulldogs: , Go :valley:
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