Salukis vs Braves Game Thread

[go bluejayss]

Wow, i didnt see one started already, and theres only 12 minutes till tip off. I cant say i like either team, but for the sake of the bids, ill say im rooting for bradley:braves:

[WSUbballer]

:braves:

[Mikovio]

I think we're more desperate.

I'm not sure if that's good.

It's been a fine season, and let's keep it going....

:braves:

[kyyle23]

as many updates as possible would be appreciated. Work prevents me from watching or listening

Oh yeah, and I wish everyone a good game. I dont want SIU to lose because, well, I dont want SIU to lose, but if they lose and BU benefits by making the tournament, then I wont mind so much

[go bluejayss]

You can tell already that the refs are going to let them play

[Studgunners]

as many updates as possible would be appreciated. Work prevents me from watching or listening

Oh yeah, and I wish everyone a good game. I dont want SIU to lose because, well, I dont want SIU to lose, but if they lose and BU benefits by making the tournament, then I wont mind so much


Nothing against the rest of the Valley, but as a Saluki fan you (and I) should mind if we lose today. We are playing for a seed and winning the Valley Tourney should hopefully solidify a 3 seed. A loss gives them an out to make us a 4, 5 or even a 6 seed (See Gonzaga). Would love for 3 or 4 Valley teams to get in, but not at the expense of our seeding.

Please keep the updates coming as it's tough to get the Salukis on TV here in New Jersey.

[go bluejayss]

2-0 BU 17:00 and some change

[WSUbballer]

1 point in 4 minutes of play?

Thata way Salukes!

[kyyle23]

Nothing against the rest of the Valley, but as a Saluki fan you (and I) should mind if we lose today. We are playing for a seed and winning the Valley Tourney should hopefully solidify a 3 seed. A loss gives them an out to make us a 4, 5 or even a 6 seed (See Gonzaga). Would love for 3 or 4 Valley teams to get in, but not at the expense of our seeding.

Please keep the updates coming as it's tough to get the Salukis on TV here in New Jersey.

Did I say I was going to be happy about losing? No. I said I wouldnt mind so much. And before that i said I didnt want to see them lose.

I want SIU to win

[smokeitup11]

Did I say I was going to be happy about losing? No. I said I wouldnt mind so much. And before that i said I didnt want to see them lose.

I want SIU to win

agreed....i always want the salukis win, but if bradley makes it as that 4th spot that's not a bad thing for the future of the valley.

10-6 BU leads with 13:47

[smokeitup11]

anyone know what's going on with tatum? why's he been out?

[C0|db|00ded]

GOOOOOOOOOO BRADLEY! :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves: :braves:


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[Keita44]

Go :braves: Good game so far!

[go bluejayss]

back to back 3s by Bradley. They are heating up!!!!
:braves: :braves: :braves: :braves:

[MoValley John]

Bradley up 18-13
7:08

[WSUbballer]

Fat Albert looks pissed!

[go bluejayss]

Game is called pretty loose

[iSASO]

Bradley is noticeably quicker than SIU.

[azbirdfan]

I'm out in Arizona, any way I can watch these games? Fox out here isn't showing it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

[Studgunners]

Updates please.

[iSASO]

Update: Bear hugs are now acceptable defensive plays.

[kyyle23]

Update: Bear hugs are now acceptable defensive plays.

Thats not an update, WSU just doesnt know how to do it. :grin:

[WSUbballer]

Aw man! That woulda been hilarious if he got that!!

[go bluejayss]

Franklin was fouled on the arm according to the anouncers. 26-26 half

[Mikovio]

This should put to rest the conspiracy theories out there....

[kyyle23]

Players in foul trouble

SIU

Tony Young 2

Bradley

Matt Salley 2
Zach Andrews 2

[azbirdfan]

How can I watch this game from Arizona??

[kyyle23]

How can I watch this game from Arizona??

get on a plane. Right now

[azbirdfan]

It'll be over by then. What is it on back there? Could I go to a sports bar?

[txsaluki05]

It'll be over by then. What is it on back there? Could I go to a sports bar?

comcast sports net, ch 37 in chicagoland. i think it's fox sports midwest too

[WSUbballer]

How can I watch this game from Arizona??
Get some sort of satellite package now, like DirecTV.

I dunno how many sports bars in Arizona will be showing an SIU/Bradley game.

[SIUDAWG02]

Update: Bear hugs are now acceptable defensive plays.


Holding Mullins jersey at the half court is also an acceptable defensive play.

[AE Braves Fan]

an SIU fan complaining about fouls?

now i've seen it all


looks like the refs are actually gonna call half the fouls SIU commits in the 2nd half....

[Keita44]

That is hilarious and true.

Go :braves:

Go :sycamores:

Go:bulldogs:

[WSUbballer]

I crack up when I hear SIU fans screaming and booing about no-calls. Good stuff!

Fat Al looks really pissed now!

[iSASO]

Half? I don't think that's ever been done.

[MoValley John]

Bradley rolling!

[MoValley John]

an SIU fan complaining about fouls?

now i've seen it all


looks like the refs are actually gonna call half the fouls SIU commits in the 2nd half....

SIU fans have forfeited any rights to complain about officiating.

[Keita44]

All of the SIU guys were trying to tell me yesterday that the refs called it evenly against Drake. Where were all of you guys then? :sleeping: ?

[SIUDAWG02]

42-40 Bradley

[WSUbballer]

Really bad rotation by Bradley that time. My grandma could have hit that wide open of a shot.

[SIUDAWG02]

42-42

[SIUDAWG02]

Tony Young with 4 fouls

[WSUbballer]

Bradley's gonna really hafta start making their free throws..

[SIUDAWG02]

Time out Bradley 44-44 4:37 to go

[SIUDAWG02]

47-45 Bradley less than 2 to go

[fillmore]

siu is really going to have to start making layups...

[ISU87]

exciting game, geesh, HUGE 3 by Crouch gives BU the lead 47-45.

SIU announcers just said:

22,612 tickets sold for this game!! (but they say it looks like there is about 18,000 there)

SIU back on top by 1 now,48-47

[SIUDAWG02]

Tatum hits a 3 SIU by 1

[SalukiProf]

Bradley 49
SIU 50
40.4 left Bradley Ball

[ISU87]

OH MY missed FT's for BU!!

[SIUDAWG02]

SIU wins by 2!

[ISU87]

Wow, what a game! congrats SIU

So does BU have a shot at the NCAA tourney??

[WSUbballer]

OH MY missed FT's for BU!!

Yep, that killed.

[SalukiProf]

Finally managed to hit a 1-footer. . . :noexpression: :original: :yes: :lol: :clap: :Jumpy: :bounceblue: :banana:

Grats to the :braves: on a fine performance. Ultimately the result is good for the :salukis: but bad for :valley: .

[bcrawf]

BU still has a chance. If the committee watched that game, how can BU not be one of the 65 best...

[OmahaDAWG]

:salukis:

DAWG DESTINY!!!

[Keita44]

That was a great game. Too bad for Bradley though, still seem to be on the outside looking in. Hey, you guys have to become huge Winthrop, Nevada, etc. fans. I hope you guys can find a way in, you deserve it, the Valley deserves it.

Go :braves:




Go :valley:

[Mikovio]

Congrats to the Salukis....

Heckuva game. I hope our guys don't get too down on themselves, because it's been a fine season. Now let's prepare for a likely NIT bid....

:braves:

[bcrawf]

Winthrop won their tournament already today!!

[dawg]

Really bad rotation by Bradley that time. My grandma could have hit that wide open of a shot.

If she doesn't have a college degree get her on your team!

[shocker3]

BU still has a chance. If the committee watched that game, how can BU not be one of the 65 best...

Unfortunately since the game wasn't on national TV, probably no committe members saw it.

But I think BU has proved they belong. I hope they make it. Too bad they didn't make their FTs down the stretch. It also appeared to me that BU was a little tired at the end.

If the committee considers the 13 games that Jeremy Crouch missed, I think they will have a real chance (BU was only 7-6 during those games).:valley:

[SIUDAWG02]

Hell of a put back by GodShawGod

[WSUbballer]

If she doesn't have a college degree get her on your team!
She does.. too bad. SIU has some openings next year. You know they could always use a little O..

[dawg]

Unfortunately since the game wasn't on national TV, probably no committe members saw it.

But I think BU has proved they belong. I hope they make it. Too bad they didn't make their FTs down the stretch. It also appeared to me that BU was a little tired at the end.

If the committee considers the 13 games that Jeremy Crouch missed, I think they will have a real chance (BU was only 7-6 during those games).:valley:

I want BU in the Dance! Nice game Braves. I thought I was going to have a heart attack.

[smokeitup11]

excellent game guys....i hope to see bradley dancing but ya never know. i think you guys showed why you belong though.
:salukis::valley: :braves: :valley: :salukis:

[C0|db|00ded]

Finally managed to hit a 1-footer. . . :noexpression: :original: :yes: :lol: :clap: :Jumpy: :bounceblue: :banana:

Grats to the :braves: on a fine performance. Ultimately the result is good for the :salukis: but bad for :valley: .

Ultimately the result is good for the :salukis: but bad for :valley: .


I couldn't agree more! If the Valley is going to continue to grow you want Bradley in the championship game. The Valley can do without the stigma that SIU-C brings to the table.

It's a sad day...


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[AE Braves Fan]

too bad Tauai left Shaw to try to block Tatum's shot...

and too bad for those missed FTs...

I hope SIU is the 3/14 upset this year.

otherwise, GO :valley:

[dawg]

She does.. too bad. SIU has some openings next year. You know they could always use a little O..
Ooooh and I thought you were all smacked out this season.

[WSUbballer]

Ooooh and I thought you were all smacked out this season.
Hell no!

Just wait til SIU loses a game...:innocent:

[Keita44]

too bad Tauai left Shaw to try to block Tatum's shot...

and too bad for those missed FTs...

I hope SIU is the 3/14 upset this year.

otherwise, GO :valley:



Why would you want that? The Valley needs every postseason win that we can get. SIU has a chance at making a serious run in the tourney and that would really help get the Valley some looks.

[dawg]

Hell no!

Just wait til SIU loses a game...:innocent:

Well I hope you have to wait a long time. As for me, I need to go change my pants ....

:bears:

[AE Braves Fan]

Give me a day or two and maybe I won't want that

I just really hate SIU right now...:original:

[SIUDAWG02]

Hell no!

Just wait til SIU loses a game...:innocent:


The next game SIU loeses will still be after the WSU season is over and all the players are at home watching SIU dancing.

[WSUbballer]

The next game SIU loeses will still be after the WSU season is over and all the players are at home watching SIU dancing.

Kinda like last year only vice versa.. ahh, gotcha!

[DannyCooksey]

How was Tatum NOT called for a foul when he tackled Tauai trying to inbound the ball after Shaw's putback?

I'm sure there were questionable calls that went both ways and I'm not saying this was the difference in the game, but Tauai was literally tackled trying to inbound the ball. Why wasn't a foul called on that play?

I couldn't believe it.

[dawg]

Give me a day or two and maybe I won't want that

I just really hate SIU right now...:original:

I actually feel for ya man. I hated even playing you guys cause I want(ed) you in the dance. Still hoping for a miracle. I'm starting to think a lot of your coach, even though his comments (still) make this funny:

http://www.sttop.net/i/ferrari%20crash_02_06.jpg

[Keita44]

The next game SIU loeses will still be after the WSU season is over and all the players are at home watching SIU dancing.


The WSU season is already over, so that statement doesn't hold much water. SIU could very easily lose in the championship, the other team, whether it is Mo State or Creighton, will need it more, will play a little harder.

[WSUbballer]

How was Tatum NOT called for a foul when he tackled Tauai trying to inbound the ball after Shaw's putback?

I'm sure there were questionable calls that went both ways and I'm not saying this was the difference in the game, but Tauai was literally tackled trying to inbound the ball. Why wasn't a foul called on that play?

I couldn't believe it.

I was thinking the same thing.

[fillmore]

too bad Tauai left Shaw to try to block Tatum's shot...

and too bad for those missed FTs...

I hope SIU is the 3/14 upset this year.

otherwise, GO :valley:
and i hope your genital herpes rupture next week.

[dawg]

Kinda like last year only vice versa.. ahh, gotcha!

Improvement Every Year under the Turd !!! :salukis:

[WSUbballer]

Improvement Every Year under the Turd !!! :salukis:
Fat Albert looked pissed earlier today. It made me laugh. :grin: :yes:

[SIUDAWG02]

Kinda like last year only vice versa.. ahh, gotcha!


Although SIU did dance last year. WSU has danced how many times in the past 10 years?

[dawg]

How was Tatum NOT called for a foul when he tackled Tauai trying to inbound the ball after Shaw's putback?

I'm sure there were questionable calls that went both ways and I'm not saying this was the difference in the game, but Tauai was literally tackled trying to inbound the ball. Why wasn't a foul called on that play?

I couldn't believe it.

Oh please don't start that lameness. I'm half blind and I couldn't believe how many missed calls went for the Braves. Overall the officiating was fine, but if you were a conspiracy-nut you could go HMMMMM.

[fillmore]

How was Tatum NOT called for a foul when he tackled Tauai trying to inbound the ball after Shaw's putback?

I'm sure there were questionable calls that went both ways and I'm not saying this was the difference in the game, but Tauai was literally tackled trying to inbound the ball. Why wasn't a foul called on that play?

I couldn't believe it.
yes....there were questionable calls that went BOTH ways. lets not go down that road.

[WSUbballer]

Although SIU did dance last year. WSU has danced how many times in the past 10 years?
If you call that embarrassment to West Virginia "dancing", sure why not..

[XSaluki]

How was Tatum NOT called for a foul when he tackled Tauai trying to inbound the ball after Shaw's putback?

I'm sure there were questionable calls that went both ways and I'm not saying this was the difference in the game, but Tauai was literally tackled trying to inbound the ball. Why wasn't a foul called on that play?

I couldn't believe it.

Or when Tatum was tackled to the floor a couple times off the ball, Falker slapped in the eye, etc etc. They just kept playing because that is the way it goes. They missed calls, they made up calls, that is the way of the ref.

Believe it. You have to make sure you win, refs or otherwise.

[C0|db|00ded]

Why would you want that? The Valley needs every postseason win that we can get. SIU has a chance at making a serious run in the tourney and that would really help get the Valley some looks.

SIU has a chance at making a serious run in the tourney

I don't know about that. Last year they got blown out in the first round and this year their team is only marginally better. If SIU-C is going to get out of the first round they are going to have to hope for a favorable matchup. But don't worry, they won't go down without a fight (literally). They will be carrying the Valley banner into the Dance and possibly erasing all the great pub WSU and Bradley earned last year with solid, big-time basketball, and not this gimmicky stuff that the hillbillies from Carbondale subscribe to. *sigh*


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[dawg]

and i hope your genital herpes rupture next week.
Uh ... I think you won the race for the bottom.

[fillmore]

If you call that embarrassment to West Virginia "dancing", sure why not..
it happens. ask texas tech and georgia.

[XSaluki]

I don't know about that. Last year they got blown out in the first round and this year their team is only marginally better. If SIU-C is going to get out of the first round they are going to have to hope for a favorable matchup. But don't worry, they won't go down without a fight (literally). They will be carrying the Valley banner into the Dance and possibly erasing all the great pub WSU and Bradley earned last year with solid, big-time basketball, and not this gimmicky stuff that the hillbillies from Carbondale subscribe to. *sigh*


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WSU erased all the pub in 2 weeks when they went from 8 to unranked in the most historic plunge in the history of the Valley.

[WSUbballer]

SIU fans are classy. Everyone else isn't.

[SIUDAWG02]

If SIU is only marginally better this year does that mean that the rest of the valley got worse?




I don't know about that. Last year they got blown out in the first round and this year their team is only marginally better. If SIU-C is going to get out of the first round they are going to have to hope for a favorable matchup. But don't worry, they won't go down without a fight (literally). They will be carrying the Valley banner into the Dance and possibly erasing all the great pub WSU and Bradley earned last year with solid, big-time basketball, and not this gimmicky stuff that the hillbillies from Carbondale subscribe to. *sigh*


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[dawg]

WSU erased all the pub in 2 weeks when they went from 8 to unranked in the most historic plunge in the history of the Valley.

History of the game more like. History of any game? Universe?

[AE Braves Fan]

how about the phantom blocking foul on Franklin with 48 seconds left that gave Tatum two FTs..........

[dawg]

Aight gents -- nough smack. Another game is on (also without Bitchita).

Oops I did it again ...

[WSUbballer]

how about the phantom blocking foul on Franklin with 48 seconds left that gave Tatum two FTs..........
That was to appease the hypocritcal booing from the SIU faithful and the ensuing stomping that Fat Albert was doing that was literally making the arena rumble.

[WSUbballer]

Aight gents -- nough smack. Another game is on (also without Bitchita).

Oops I did it again ...

Britney Spears "smack". Funny.

[dawg]

That was to appease the hypocritcal booing from the SIU faithful and the ensuing stomping that Fat Albert was doing that was literally making the arena rumble.

I just don't think there is anything appropriate about that comment. Think about it.

[fillmore]

how about the phantom blocking foul on Franklin with 48 seconds left that gave Tatum two FTs..........
*sniffle sniffle*

[dawg]

Britney Spears "smack". Funny.

Lol ... does that make you Paris Hilton?

[C0|db|00ded]

WSU erased all the pub in 2 weeks when they went from 8 to unranked in the most historic plunge in the history of the Valley.

I don't think so. WSU and Bradley put the Valley on the map last year with concurrent Sweet Sixteens and WSU's plunge this year after beating 'Cuse and LSU has only created the perception that the Valley is stronger than it is. If you want to measure WSU's weight in the public arena just look back a couple weeks when you beat us at home and your subsequent national ranking. Why would beating a Valley cellar dweller mean so much to the pollsters?


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[XSaluki]

That was to appease the hypocritcal booing from the SIU faithful and the ensuing stomping that Fat Albert was doing that was literally making the arena rumble.

Ha, Ha. Fat Albert. That is super funny stuff. :thumbup1:

[WSUbballer]

Lol ... does that make you Paris Hilton?

Does your sarcasm meter not work or are you just plain stupid?

[txsaluki05]

how about the phantom blocking foul on Franklin with 48 seconds left that gave Tatum two FTs..........

How about Danny Noonan missing two free throws!!! BU had their chances. Now Les has to go back to his summer job at the Ferrari dealership.

On a serious note, I think BU deserves a dance card. Great game today; no whining from me on the refs. The calls went both ways.

:salukis:

[dawg]

I don't think so. WSU and Bradley put the Valley on the map last year with concurrent Sweet Sixteens and WSU's plunge this year after beating 'Cuse and LSU has only created the perception that the Valley is stronger than it is. If you want to measure WSU's weight in the public arena just look back a couple weeks when you beat us at home and your subsequent national ranking. Why would beating a Valley cellar dweller mean so much to the pollsters?


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Since you've obviously been lit up for an hour or two, pass that crack pipe around.

[WSUbballer]

Ha, Ha. Fat Albert. That is super funny stuff. :thumbup1:

You know what's even funnier?.. Turd.
HA HA HA, hillarious right?

[dawg]

Does your sarcasm meter not work or are you just plain stupid?

Chill out thre junior, I thought it was funny.

[dawg]

You know what's even funnier?.. Turd.
HA HA HA, hillarious right?
I think you know what I meant.

[fillmore]

and WSU's plunge this year after beating 'Cuse and LSU
who?

[AE Braves Fan]

How about Danny Noonan missing two free throws!!! BU had their chances. Now Les has to go back to his summer job at the Ferrari dealership.

On a serious note, I think BU deserves a dance card. Great game today; no whining from me on the refs. The calls went both ways.

:salukis:


Those misses have nothing to do with the phantom call...

you get a C for effort though

[XSaluki]

I don't think so. WSU and Bradley put the Valley on the map last year with concurrent Sweet Sixteens and WSU's plunge this year after beating 'Cuse and LSU has only created the perception that the Valley is stronger than it is. If you want to measure WSU's weight in the public arena just look back a couple weeks when you beat us at home and your subsequent national ranking. Why would beating a Valley cellar dweller mean so much to the pollsters?


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You need to recheck your history of when you lost your ranking and we got ours. Yours was gone before you set foot in the Arena. If you would have beat southern, you probably would have gotten that ranking right back... however the slide continued.

[XSaluki]

You know what's even funnier?.. Turd.
HA HA HA, hillarious right?

You are right, it is :grin:

[txsaluki05]

Those misses have nothing to do with the phantom call...

you get a C for effort though

Proved a point that refs dont decide the games; the players that can't make plays do.

http://www.sttop.net/i/ferrari%20crash_02_06.jpg

[skinny_uncle]

I don't know about that. Last year they got blown out in the first round and this year their team is only marginally better. If SIU-C is going to get out of the first round they are going to have to hope for a favorable matchup. But don't worry, they won't go down without a fight (literally). They will be carrying the Valley banner into the Dance and possibly erasing all the great pub WSU and Bradley earned last year with solid, big-time basketball, and not this gimmicky stuff that the hillbillies from Carbondale subscribe to. *sigh*


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Good luck in the NIT.

[txsaluki05]

Good luck in the NIT.

If they get invited to the NIT.

[SIUDAWG02]

Good luck in the NIT.


WSU is not an NIT lock

[WSUbballer]

We are NOT going to the NIT.

Enjoy the ride classy SIU fans. Hope you have a good one.

[C0|db|00ded]

If SIU is only marginally better this year does that mean that the rest of the valley got worse?

With the type of system that SIU-C employs and the way the majority of Valley teams are built like, SIU-C will always be successful in the Valley. They reduce the game to the lowest common denominator and beat the ***** out of everything that touches the basketball. It is a travesty to the founders of this great game but nonetheless effective. One need only look to the New Jersey Devils in the NHL to see how effective a defensive system can be in a league and also how destructive it can be to the entertainment-value of the game.. :no:

A highly talented, high-scoring, exciting star will never be able to overcome a clutching, grabbing, defensive player who is left un/under-regulated. That is what referees are for. If there were no referees in sports every game would become a physical grudge match and the stars would never, ever shine and eventually everybody would lose interest.

If SIU-C is matched up against a finesse-style NCAA team they are probably going to beat them unless they really lay an egg. However, if they are matched up against a big and tough team (who can score) then SIU-C will probably get a dose of their own medicine and go home embarrassed.

You ask what do I hope for? I hope that somebody cures the disease that is SIU-C basketball and let's get the ENTIRE Valley back to playing solid, fundamental basketball. Until this happens every single game that SIU-C plays will always have an asterisk by it in my book.


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[SIUDAWG02]

We are NOT going to the NIT.

Enjoy the ride classy SIU fans. Hope you have a good one.


Are you talking about the 6 year ride we are on?

[C0|db|00ded]

You need to recheck your history of when you lost your ranking and we got ours. Yours was gone before you set foot in the Arena. If you would have beat southern, you probably would have gotten that ranking right back... however the slide continued.

You received your ranking after you came in our building and won.


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[AE Braves Fan]

sure the missed free throws, missed layups, and terrible officiating...

...made free throws, made layups, and fair officiating and BU wins by 20


SIU is far from being the 11th best team in the nation

[dawg]

WSU is not an NIT lock
How about Hoops in the Heartland?

[C0|db|00ded]

Good luck in the NIT.

Just pray you don't one-and-done or everything I have said will be proven.


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[txsaluki05]

sure the missed free throws, missed layups, and terrible officiating...

...made free throws, made layups, and fair officiating and BU wins by 20


SIU is far from being the 11th best team in the nation

playing the "if game" is about the only game you'll be playin this offseason my friend

[WSUbballer]

Are you talking about the 6 year ride we are on?
Teams are judged on how they perform in the NCAA's, fair or not. If you call the last 6 years a "ride", sure ok.

[SIUDAWG02]

With the type of system that SIU-C employs and the way the majority of Valley teams are built like, SIU-C will always be successful in the Valley. They reduce the game to the lowest common denominator and beat the ***** out of everything that touches the basketball. It is a travesty to the founders of this great game but nonetheless effective. One need only look to the New Jersey Devils in the NHL to see how effective a defensive system can be in a league and also how destructive it can be to the entertainment-value of the game.. :no:

A highly talented, high-scoring, exciting star will never be able to overcome a clutching, grabbing, defensive player who is left un/under-regulated. That is what referees are for. If there were no referees in sports every game would become a physical grudge match and the stars would never, ever shine and eventually everybody would lose interest.

If SIU-C is matched up against a finesse-style NCAA team they are probably going to beat them unless they really lay an egg. However, if they are matched up against a big and tough team (who can score) then SIU-C will probably get a dose of their own medicine and go home embarrassed.

You ask what do I hope for? I hope that somebody cures the disease that is SIU-C basketball and let's get the ENTIRE Valley back to playing solid, fundamental basketball. Until this happens every single game that SIU-C plays will always have an asterisk by it in my book.


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You would rather look good and lose than do what it takes to win?

[WSUbballer]

How about Hoops in the Heartland?
If SIU chokes in the first or second round, I'd call that a pretty big disappointment. I predict, if that happens, your presence on this board will be like it was on here at the beginning of the year - nothing.

[AE Braves Fan]

playing the "if game" is about the only game you'll be playin this offseason my friend


uhh, yeah

[C0|db|00ded]

You would rather look good and lose than do what it takes to win?

There is a gentleman's agreement in every sport. SIU-C does not subscribe to this agreement. Referees cannot control everything. SIU-C is a dirty team with a dirty system.

With all that said it perfectly fits your regional location, tradition, and general facilities.


T


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[SIUDAWG02]

Teams are judged on how they perform in the NCAA's, fair or not. If you call the last 6 years a "ride", sure ok.


You have to start with making it into the dance... How many has WSU been to in the last 10 years? SIU is one of 16 teams to play in the last six NCAA's in a row.

[skinny_uncle]

Congrats to Bradley on a good game. Our players said that was the toughest D they had faced outside of practice.

[dawg]

If SIU chokes in the first or second round, I'd call that a pretty big disappointment. I predict, if that happens, your presence on this board will be like it was on here at the beginning of the year - nothing.

I'd be disappointed too, but hey 6 in a row is an accomplishment that you can only dream of.

[fillmore]

sure the missed free throws, missed layups, and terrible officiating...

...made free throws, made layups, and fair officiating and BU wins by 20


SIU is far from being the 11th best team in the nation
your parents are far from meeting the legally related criteria for marriage......but, wuchu gonna do?

[XSaluki]

You received your ranking after you came in our building and won.


T


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... and yours was gone before you played and lost to Southern. Facts. Mine were right and yours were wrong. I would have thought that first big win against a previously ranked WSU would have launched any team into the 10 spot. I wonder why?

[SIUDAWG02]

If SIU chokes in the first or second round, I'd call that a pretty big disappointment. I predict, if that happens, your presence on this board will be like it was on here at the beginning of the year - nothing.



WSU already choked this season sliding from number 8 into the abyss. I will still be here. Besides one and done in the big dance beats sitting home wishing you had the chance to play in it!

[XSaluki]

WSU already choked this season sliding from number 8 into the abyss. I will still be here. Besides one and done in the big dance beats sitting home wishing you had the chance to play in it!

Uh oh, here comes the NIT vs. NCAA debate. Just keep hoping for a first round loss you guys. :grin:

[fillmore]

Teams are judged on how they perform in the NCAA's, fair or not. If you call the last 6 years a "ride", sure ok.
fair enough. if the salukis legitimately arent on a ride, wichita isnt even tall enough to stand in line to get on the ride.

[OmahaDAWG]

There is a gentleman's agreement in every sport. SIU-C does not subscribe to this agreement. Referees cannot control everything. SIU-C is a dirty team with a dirty system.

With all that said it perfectly fits your regional location, tradition, and general facilities.


T


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How sad and miserable your life must be. Get over yourself and go cry on someone elses parade.

[XSaluki]

Back on track since the WSU hijack... Bradley should be in the NCAAs. :braves:

[SIUDAWG02]

Uh oh, here comes the NIT vs. NCAA debate. Just keep hoping for a first round loss you guys. :grin:


There is no debate winning the NIT means you were almost good enough to get invited to dance!

[WSUbballer]

WSU already choked this season sliding from number 8 into the abyss. I will still be here. Besides one and done in the big dance beats sitting home wishing you had the chance to play in it!
I wouldnt call that choking. I'd call it being highly overrated and playing 7 of our first 11 conference games on the road. It does a number. By that time, it was all over.

Don't be like WSU and choke!

[WSUbballer]

fair enough. if the salukis legitimately arent on a ride, wichita isnt even tall enough to stand in line to get on the ride.
Can't say I disagree. But getting to the tournament shouldn't just be your only goal. Winning in it helps as well.

[WSUbballer]

Back on track since the WSU hijack... Bradley should be in the NCAAs. :braves:
You should take a look into the MSU-WSU thread last night. I dunno how many cheap tricks good ol' lawboy threw at WSU. Sorry, just having to pay the boy back... At least you came away with the W.

[AE Braves Fan]

your parents are far from meeting the legally related criteria for marriage......but, wuchu gonna do?


well done

[C0|db|00ded]

An interesting note about the New Jersey Devils and the NHL: The NHL actually amended the rule book to stop the clutching and grabbing that had infected the league due to systems that a couple teams, namely the Devils employed. This "gimmick" was so effective that they had to change the freakin' rules of a sport that is over 100 years old. The same thing is going on with SIU-C and their "gimmicks". But how do you change the rules of basketball? How do you specify that excessive physical play is allowed under the goal but not on the perimeter where SIU-C works their "magic"? The only thing that will stop SIU-C besides an abandonment of their current philosophy is an NCAA rules change and that simply won't happen because the rest of the country is not infected like the MVC is. Big-time basketball programs know that Ugly-Ball will never sell and they can recruit the kind of athletes that can overcome SIU-C's systematic advantages. The real scary thing would be if a Duke or a Kansas with their superior athletes employed SIU-C's philosophy. Then you would have an UGLY mess on your hands (pun intended). The great thing is the top programs still play great basketball and the only people that have to suffer from this malady are Valley fans considering the Uglies haven't made much noise nationally..


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[SIUDAWG02]

I wouldnt call that choking. I'd call it being highly overrated and playing 7 of our first 11 conference games on the road. It does a number. By that time, it was all over.

Don't be like WSU and choke!


Anything can happen thats what makes march madness so fun to watch.

[bcrawf]

I have ignored this for long enough, I just have to say this...

What kind of complex do WSU fans have where they have to get the last word in on everything, whether it relates to their team or not....

Quit being a bunch of egotistical, arrogant pricks...:valley:

[C0|db|00ded]

... and yours was gone before you played and lost to Southern. Facts. Mine were right and yours were wrong. I would have thought that first big win against a previously ranked WSU would have launched any team into the 10 spot. I wonder why?

Because your resume wasn't strong enough to warrant anything at that point of the season.

P.S.

You're confused.


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[fillmore]

i havent seen duke playing any great basketball this year.

[SIUDAWG02]

An interesting note about the New Jersey Devils and the NHL: The NHL actually amended the rule book to stop the clutching and grabbing that had infected the league due to systems that a couple teams, namely the Devils employed. This "gimmick" was so effective that they had to change the freakin' rules of a sport that is over 100 years old. The same thing is going on with SIU-C and their "gimmicks". But how do you change the rules of basketball? How do you specify that excessive physical play is allowed under the goal but not on the perimeter where SIU-C works their "magic"? The only thing that will stop SIU-C besides an abandonment of their current philosophy is an NCAA rules change and that simply won't happen because the rest of the country is not infected like the MVC is. Big-time basketball programs know that Ugly-Ball will never sell and they can recruit the kind of athletes that can overcome SIU-C's systematic advantages. The real scary thing would be if a Duke or a Kansas with their superior athletes employed SIU-C's philosophy. Then you would have an UGLY mess on your hands (pun intended). The great thing is the top programs still play great basketball and the only people that have to suffer from this malady are Valley fans considering the Uglies haven't made much noise nationally..


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Yeah six straight NCAA appearances with a sweet sixteen appearance is less impressive than one trip to the NCAA's with a sweet sixteen appearance. WSU really does own the valley.

[XSaluki]

You should take a look into the MSU-WSU thread last night. I dunno how many cheap tricks good ol' lawboy threw at WSU. Sorry, just having to pay the boy back... At least you came away with the W.

I haven't seen the thread, but I probably wouldn't be surprised. :doh:

[C0|db|00ded]

Yeah six straight NCAA appearances with a sweet sixteen appearance is less impressive than one trip to the NCAA's with a sweet sixteen appearance. WSU really does own the valley.

Hey Mr. "I just joined February 2007", why don't you set the next couple plays out and find out who you should and shouldn't argue with..


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[HollywoodBrave]

Congrats to the Salukis. It was tough watching this game, as we had our chances. Tatum had every BU alum in the bar saying, "clutch." That's exactly what the guy is and has been for this team. We made them work and then decided to choke on the free throw line. Danny Adams, as a senior, really disappointed me.

Talk about having a tight sphincter when the going got tough.

[SIUDAWG02]

Hey Mr. "I just joined February 2007", why don't you set the next couple plays out and find out who you should and shouldn't argue with..


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Actually I was a member before the board was updated and you had to re-register. Arguing with you is pointless you don't make any valid points.

[XSaluki]

Because your resume wasn't strong enough to warrant anything at that point of the season.

P.S.

You're confused.


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You need to re-read the thread and tell me where I said we didn't get ranked the week after the last WSU game.

Then come back and debate with the big dawgs :grin:

[OmahaDAWG]

Hey Mr. "I just joined February 2007", why don't you set the next couple plays out and find out who you should and shouldn't argue with..


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think it's time for you to take your ball and go home.

[bcrawf]

Actually I was a member before the board was updated and you had to re-register. Arguing with you is pointless you don't make any valid points.

Its typicall WSU uneducated rhetoric. We are great because of this, and this, and that. And if you argue with me you are just an idiot...

[dawg]

You should take a look into the MSU-WSU thread last night. I dunno how many cheap tricks good ol' lawboy threw at WSU. Sorry, just having to pay the boy back... At least you came away with the W.

All in good fun, I assure you. If its too much, then you need to let me know.

[dawg]

I haven't seen the thread, but I probably wouldn't be surprised. :doh:

Funniest thing is that I was rooting for WSU.

[fillmore]

Hey Mr. "I just joined February 2007", why don't you set the next couple plays out and find out who you should and shouldn't argue with..


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everyone had to register again when the old valley talk went down...

[barkeep1967]

I would not put too much into what the shucks fans are saying. After tomorrow we won't see them again until November. Unless you go to the baseball forums. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Nice to see you recovering a bit CLod I was getting a bit worried about you.

[WSUbballer]

All in good fun, I assure you. If its too much, then you need to let me know.
Same here. It is not too much. I enjoy it. Good luck with CU and in the dance.

[WSUbballer]

I have ignored this for long enough, I just have to say this...

What kind of complex do WSU fans have where they have to get the last word in on everything, whether it relates to their team or not....

Quit being a bunch of egotistical, arrogant pricks...:valley:

DT has a point now..

[MoValley John]

Hey Mr. "I just joined February 2007", why don't you set the next couple plays out and find out who you should and shouldn't argue with..


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God I love it when Cold has his game going!

Note to Cold: You have an audience, keep it going, I'm ready to crack a cold one and watch you inflict mayhem.

[WSUbballer]

I would not put too much into what the shucks fans are saying. After tomorrow we won't see them again until November. Unless you go to the baseball forums. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Nice to see you recovering a bit CLod I was getting a bit worried about you.

And whenever SIU loses, we won't see them until November, because your baseball is..:helpsmilie: :lol:

[dawg]

And whenever SIU loses, we won't see them until November, because your baseball is..:helpsmilie: :lol:
Currently 1/2 game ahead of you :)

[WSUbballer]

Currently 1/2 game ahead of you :)
Who have you played? :doh:

[dawg]

Who have you played? :doh:


Damnit -- don't trouble me with facts :)

[WSUbballer]

Damnit -- don't trouble me with facts :)

It should actually be a fun race this year. I hope some of the Saluki fans venture into the baseball forum this year. It's always too quiet in this place once late March hits.

[dawg]

It should actually be a fun race this year. I hope some of the Saluki fans venture into the baseball forum this year. It's always too quiet in this place once late March hits.

I'm there man. Need to brush up on my baseball skills, but I think I'm addicted to this place.

[BUBraves55]

How about Danny Noonan missing two free throws!!! BU had their chances. Now Les has to go back to his summer job at the Ferrari dealership.

On a serious note, I think BU deserves a dance card. Great game today; no whining from me on the refs. The calls went both ways.

:salukis:
i hope you're right- you know its one HELL of a game when you feel like you're gonna puke in the late going
good game siu

[dawg]

i hope you're right- you know its one HELL of a game when you feel like you're gonna puke in the late going
good game siu

I hope BU is in ... it would be nice to see the 4 Class of the Valley teams in at the same time.

[Webersback]

I don't know about that. Last year they got blown out in the first round and this year their team is only marginally better. If SIU-C is going to get out of the first round they are going to have to hope for a favorable matchup. But don't worry, they won't go down without a fight (literally). They will be carrying the Valley banner into the Dance and possibly erasing all the great pub WSU and Bradley earned last year with solid, big-time basketball, and not this gimmicky stuff that the hillbillies from Carbondale subscribe to. *sigh*


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Cold..I was not aware that a 6 year run was deserving of a "Gimmick" comment. I would say that WSU's one and done in 2006 was a gimmick seeing as how your inside game this year was so stout! I don't mean 1 and done in wins...I mean one and done in the NCAA.

[C0|db|00ded]

I would not put too much into what the shucks fans are saying. After tomorrow we won't see them again until November. Unless you go to the baseball forums. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Nice to see you recovering a bit CLod I was getting a bit worried about you.

After tomorrow we won't see them again until November. Unless you go to the baseball forums.

You're kidding right? I have an investment in this fine forum. No way do I leave until next November.. :innocent: :banana:


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[DannyCooksey]

Oh please don't start that lameness. I'm half blind and I couldn't believe how many missed calls went for the Braves. Overall the officiating was fine, but if you were a conspiracy-nut you could go HMMMMM.


Not saying it was the biggest play of the game or anything like that. Just was more asking the question of whether or not a foul could or should have been called.

Not a conspiracy theory smart-a**. And I said in the original post that I'm sure there were calls that went both ways. I just thought that was an obvious questionable play at a key time.

[MinnesotaDawg]

Aight - enough lurking, time to post.

This post arguing that SIU is "marginally better and needs a favorable matchup to get out of the first round" is either hyperbole or hallucingen induced (or the product of blind envy.)

1) SIU is more than marginally better. Record wise, personnel wise, experience wise, this is a far superior team to last years version. They lost nobody and all have gained NCAA experience. You'd be a fool to think that they are no better.

2) They'll get a favorable matchup, since they will be a 5 seed at the lowest (if they beat CU tomorrow they'll prolly be a 3), but it is an earned matchup, not a gift. I think you could slot SIU in at 12 or 11 and there wouldn't be a 5 or 6 in the country that wouldn't join saluki fans in rising up against the unfairness of that darn committee.

3) Yeah, this is my first post on VT, so go ahead and tell me that I should shut up because I haven't been on it since Al Gore invented the internet.

4) Go to the baseball forums and post on a team that is still in the tournament.

[MoValley John]

Aight - enough lurking, time to post.

This post arguing that SIU is "marginally better and needs a favorable matchup to get out of the first round" is either hyperbole or hallucingen induced (or the product of blind envy.)

1) SIU is more than marginally better. Record wise, personnel wise, experience wise, this is a far superior team to last years version. They lost nobody and all have gained NCAA experience. You'd be a fool to think that they are no better.

2) They'll get a favorable matchup, since they will be a 5 seed at the lowest (if they beat CU tomorrow they'll prolly be a 3), but it is an earned matchup, not a gift. I think you could slot SIU in at 12 or 11 and there wouldn't be a 5 or 6 in the country that wouldn't join saluki fans in rising up against the unfairness of that darn committee.

3) Yeah, this is my first post on VT, so go ahead and tell me that I should shut up because I haven't been on it since Al Gore invented the internet.

4) Go to the baseball forums and post on a team that is still in the tournament.

Nice post newbie-hack-troll-flamthrower-loser. Why don't you read more and post less! By the way, I was just kidding, welcome aboard.

[MinnesotaDawg]

Yeah, and one more thing. I've been to Wichita, and let me say, it is far from a "hick free zone." If I read one more post from a WSU fan with the word "hillbilly" in it referencing SIU....

Just cause Wichita don't have hills don't mean y'all don't have hillbillies, yo.

[MoValley John]

Aight - enough lurking, time to post.

This post arguing that SIU is "marginally better and needs a favorable matchup to get out of the first round" is either hyperbole or hallucingen induced (or the product of blind envy.)

1) SIU is more than marginally better. Record wise, personnel wise, experience wise, this is a far superior team to last years version. They lost nobody and all have gained NCAA experience. You'd be a fool to think that they are no better.

2) They'll get a favorable matchup, since they will be a 5 seed at the lowest (if they beat CU tomorrow they'll prolly be a 3), but it is an earned matchup, not a gift. I think you could slot SIU in at 12 or 11 and there wouldn't be a 5 or 6 in the country that wouldn't join saluki fans in rising up against the unfairness of that darn committee.

3) Yeah, this is my first post on VT, so go ahead and tell me that I should shut up because I haven't been on it since Al Gore invented the internet.

4) Go to the baseball forums and post on a team that is still in the tournament.

I don't know where this envy thing came from. For the past three or four days, I have seen the envy thing being thrown out by Saluki fans. Prior to that, the only fans that accused any other fans of being envious, were Wichita State fans, primarilly ColdBlooded. And that was directed, almost exclusively at Creighton fans. As for people being envious of SIU, that is far from the case. If anyone is envious, it would be fans from ISU, ISU, UE and nobody else. To demonstrate, and I mean this seriously, is what are other fans envious of? You have a good basketball team- so what, so do several other Valley programs. You have a good football team, but you are 1-AA, might as well be div 2- the same as all other Valley (Gateway)programs. Other than that, your facilities suck and you are located in Carbondale. I think people would give up a few wins to (A.) have decent facilities and (B.) not live, have lived or spent time attending school in Carbondale. Get over it, yes teams would like to win more, but there is no envy of SIU.

[MoValley John]

Yeah, and one more thing. I've been to Wichita, and let me say, it is far from a "hick free zone." If I read one more post from a WSU fan with the word "hillbilly" in it referencing SIU....

Just cause Wichita don't have hills don't mean y'all don't have hillbillies, yo.

See, this is where people get in trouble making assumptions. You just slammed Wichita and the only person that has responded to you never lived closer than 300 miles from that fine Kansas community.

[MinnesotaDawg]

m'bad - was making an unfounded assumption about that poster. Purely a defensive slur, I assure you, my apologies.:innocent:

[MinnesotaDawg]

Now, that said, get off your Carbondale sucks high horse. Yeah, it is a small town, but the notion that it full of slack-jawed yokels is rather amusing. I grew up in Minneapolis and live there now, and I'd move back to C'dale if there was work there (which there isn't). Southern Illinois is a beautiful place, and there are a lot of cool folks there. I laughed out loud at the debate about whether Omaha or Des Moines was a more cosmopolitan city (based on the presence of a PF'ing Changs?), and that kinda undercuts VT credibility on the relative "hipness" of valley cities.

[MoValley John]

Now, that said, get off your Carbondale sucks high horse. Yeah, it is a small town, but the notion that it full of slack-jawed yokels is rather amusing. I grew up in Minneapolis and live there now, and I'd move back to C'dale if there was work there (which there isn't). Southern Illinois is a beautiful place, and there are a lot of cool folks there. I laughed out loud at the debate about whether Omaha or Des Moines was a more cosmopolitan city (based on the presence of a PF'ing Changs?), and that kinda undercuts VT credibility on the relative "hipness" of valley cities.

You should probably read all my posts on the Wichita/Omaha/Des Moines subject. Having lived on both coasts and growing up in Chicago, I thought the whole thing was very funny.

As for the Twin Cities, I have a sister that lives in Edina, it's nice up there, but other than the wildlife and abundant fishing, Minneapolis isn't for me. One question though, do you all have a Bonanza or Sizzler?

[MinnesotaDawg]

No, but we have a Ponderosa.

[MoValley John]

No, but we have a Ponderosa.

Then you have arrived!!!

[SIUDAWG02]

I don't know where this envy thing came from. For the past three or four days, I have seen the envy thing being thrown out by Saluki fans. Prior to that, the only fans that accused any other fans of being envious, were Wichita State fans, primarilly ColdBlooded. And that was directed, almost exclusively at Creighton fans. As for people being envious of SIU, that is far from the case. If anyone is envious, it would be fans from ISU, ISU, UE and nobody else. To demonstrate, and I mean this seriously, is what are other fans envious of? You have a good basketball team- so what, so do several other Valley programs. You have a good football team, but you are 1-AA, might as well be div 2- the same as all other Valley (Gateway)programs. Other than that, your facilities suck and you are located in Carbondale. I think people would give up a few wins to (A.) have decent facilities and (B.) not live, have lived or spent time attending school in Carbondale. Get over it, yes teams would like to win more, but there is no envy of SIU.


I would not trade our wins for a nicer facility... I live in Florida now and miss the ole arena like none other. How much time have you actually spent in Carbondale? Ever been to giant city, garden of the gods, the wine trails, or hung out with the students? SIU was an awesome college experience. Myself and I am sure most Saluki fans will agree with me after going to school there I wouldn't have traded it to go anywhere else.

[MoValley John]

I would not trade our wins for a nicer facility... I live in Florida now and miss the ole arena like none other. How much time have you actually spent in Carbondale? Ever been to giant city, garden of the gods, the wine trails, or hung out with the students? SIU was an awesome college experience. Myself and I am sure most Saluki fans will agree with me after going to school there I wouldn't have traded it to go anywhere else.

See, you back doored into my point. The same holds true for everybody else. Everybody loves where they are, home is home and it is what you make of it. Nobody is envious. Don't throw out the envy card and enjoy the winning.

[cv saluki]

Just an observation from looking at some stats because I'm really not into talking smack. But I do get a little tired of hearing all the "Ugly" dawg talk.

WSU Avg. 68.6 PPG this year and finished 17-14
"Ugly" Salukis Avg. 63.5 PPG this year and are currently 28-5
The beautiful style of pure basketball, playing it the way it was meant to be played scores 1 more point every 8 minutes than the "uglies".

Another observation:
WSU Avg. 18 Fouls per game
"Ugly" Dawgs Avg. 20 Fouls per game
Thats 1 foul per half more on the "Ugly" dawgs

And the last:
"Next game"
WSU - "No games Scheduled"
"Ugly" Dawgs - MVC Championship Game + NCAA Tournament (6 consecutive)

It must be a great day to be a Shocker! :no:

:salukis:
:valley:

[MoValley John]

Just an observation from looking at some stats because I'm really not into talking smack. But I do get a little tired of hearing all the "Ugly" dawg talk.

WSU Avg. 68.6 PPG this year and finished 17-14
"Ugly" Salukis Avg. 63.5 PPG this year and are currently 28-5
The beautiful style of pure basketball, playing it the way it was meant to be played scores 1 more point every 8 minutes than the "uglies".

Another observation:
WSU Avg. 18 Fouls per game
"Ugly" Dawgs Avg. 20 Fouls per game
Thats 1 foul per half more on the "Ugly" dawgs

And the last:
"Next game"
WSU - "No games Scheduled"
"Ugly" Dawgs - MVC Championship Game + NCAA Tournament (6 consecutive)

It must be a great day to be a Shocker! :no:

:salukis:
:valley:

What does this have to do with anything? Last time I checked, SIU won the regular season, Wichita State finished 6th. I'm confused, a league winner contrasting their style of play against a sub .500 conference team? On the other hand, I have no objections to the way SIU plays, but if you are trying to prove some kind of point, why not try and compare yourself to CU, BU or MSU, not the top team in the second tier.

[dawg]

I would not trade our wins for a nicer facility... I live in Florida now and miss the ole arena like none other. How much time have you actually spent in Carbondale? Ever been to giant city, garden of the gods, the wine trails, or hung out with the students? SIU was an awesome college experience. Myself and I am sure most Saluki fans will agree with me after going to school there I wouldn't have traded it to go anywhere else.

Yup, well said. I've lived in both California and Florida and now northern Illinois. I miss Southern Illinois. I actually bought a weekend house in Southern Illinois just so I could be closer to the place I wish to retire (in about 25 years lol). Speaking of which -- I get to fire up my 260 hp I/O deckboat in about 1 month!!!

[pbutler]

Just an observation from looking at some stats because I'm really not into talking smack. But I do get a little tired of hearing all the "Ugly" dawg talk.

WSU Avg. 68.6 PPG this year and finished 17-14
"Ugly" Salukis Avg. 63.5 PPG this year and are currently 28-5
The beautiful style of pure basketball, playing it the way it was meant to be played scores 1 more point every 8 minutes than the "uglies".

Another observation:
WSU Avg. 18 Fouls per game
"Ugly" Dawgs Avg. 20 Fouls per game
Thats 1 foul per half more on the "Ugly" dawgs

And the last:
"Next game"
WSU - "No games Scheduled"
"Ugly" Dawgs - MVC Championship Game + NCAA Tournament (6 consecutive)

It must be a great day to be a Shocker! :no:

:salukis:
:valley:


AWESOME POST!