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Ace Dad
03-14-2007, 10:47 PM
Shame On the Selection Committee

By John Feinstein
Special to washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, March 14, 2007; 6:54 PM


Here's what bothers me about the NCAA Men's Basketball Committee: Everything.

Don't get me wrong I like all of them personally. They're good men, hard-working and sincere. It's just that they have come to believe through the years that when they select the 65 team NCAA Tournament field that they are doing work only slightly more important and grueling than finding a cure for cancer.

Every year we hear about how difficult the selection process is. We hear about how tough it is to spend four days locked up in a hotel suite on the top floor of The Indianapolis Westin Hotel. Oh my God, is it hard to pick those last few teams. And the brackets. Splitting the atom was a walk in the park compared to doing the brackets.

They go through reams of computer printouts. They look at tapes of teams playing. They argue and scream at one another. They compare RPI's and strength of schedule and wins on the road versus wins at home. It is all so complicated and so exhausting it's a wonder they can even return to their homes and families -- first class of course -- with even a piece of their sanity intact.

Here's the thing. I have a friend named Bill Brill. He's a retired sportswriter. Every year on Saturday night he sits down at a table with a blank bracket and about four beers. Okay, maybe five. He has no computer printouts, no staff and no one on call to get him anything his heart might desire. He has a few friends shouting at him that he's crazy if he thinks the CAA is going to get three bids. That's about it.

Armed with his beer and his shouting friends, Brill puts together a bracket in about an hour. Maybe 90 minutes if his dinner reservation that night is a little bit later than usual. Usually he has about 63 of the same teams the committee comes up with. His seedings are virtually identical. Maybe he had Maryland as a No. 5 instead of a No. 4 this year. He might have had Gonzaga as a No. 11 instead of a No. 10. Basically though, it is the same bracket.

Except, it's better.

You see Brill isn't affected by politics. He isn't intimidated by the specter of Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney, an ex-committee chairman who is known among those who follow the sport as the Darth Vader of college basketball. No doubt Delaney and the Emperor were not pleased last year when the committee had the audacity to put George Mason, Wichita State and Bradley into the field from mid-major conferences and left out Florida State, Maryland and Indiana on the rather simple principle that they hadn't played anyone.

We all know how that worked out. George Mason became the best story in college basketball in 40 years. Wichita State and Bradley made the round of 16, and while everyone in the ACC was screaming how unfair it was that the Missouri Valley Conference -- which is where Wichita State and Bradley are from --had gotten as many bids (4) as the ACC, the fact is the Missouri Valley -- even with lower seeding positions -- got as many teams (2) to the round of 16 as the ACC did.

There's no doubt in my mind that Darth Vader and his companions from The Empire (the other power conference commissioners) went into action last spring, summer and fall. This can't happen again, they told the committee members. The NCAA tournament, in spite of rumors to the contrary, isn't about what is best for basketball and what is most fair to the players and coaches. It is about us. It is about how much money we make from the tournament (millions) and how we use making the tournament as a tool (recruiting) to ensure that we keep making more millions.

Well, the committee members certainly got the message. No Death Star for them. They went into their meetings in their Ivory Tower last weekend and came up with the following idea: Illinois and Purdue, both teams from Delaney's Big Ten, deserved bids. Forget the fact that their road victories this season came over Big Ten weaklings Northwestern and Penn State and, in the case of Illinois, a win over Minnesota which is almost as bad as Northwestern and Penn State. Forget the fact that the nine teams in the Big Ten not named Ohio State and Wisconsin won a total of 16 road games all season. They deserve to be in the tournament.

But Drexel didn't deserve a bid.

Take a guess how many road games Drexel won this season. How about 14. That's one school winning 14 games away from home versus nine winning 16. Who did the Dragons beat? Syracuse, Villanova, Creighton, St. Joseph's and several very good CAA teams. You see when you're in the CAA, no one from a power conference will play you on the road. Maryland Coach Gary Williams complained last year when The Missouri Valley got those four bids that the league had, "cracked the RPI code."

Here's what they did to crack the code: they played good teams on the road and won. Sounds pretty evil to me.

Drexel cracked the code too. Except it had the misfortune to play in a league that had three other very good teams. It finished fourth in the CAA behind Virginia Commonwealth, Old Dominion and Hofstra. The first two got into the tournament. Committee chairman Gary Walters, who was a teammate of Bill Bradley's at Princeton and should know good basketball when he sees it, explained that Drexel finishing fourth in the CAA had been the problem as if the committee could only take Old Dominion or Drexel and not both.

I mean, God forbid we should leave out Illinois and Purdue. The wrath of Darth Vader might come down upon us.

Here's the problem with Walter's remarkably specious argument (after all you would expect more from a Princeton grad): the committee also left out Syracuse. Upon further review, Syracuse finished ahead of both Marquette and Villanova in the Big East. In fact, it beat Marquette, at Marquette, and was the only team to beat Georgetown any place in the last six weeks. Last time I checked, if you beat someone on their court and all other things are pretty much equal -- or in this case unequal -- since Syracuse, let me repeat this, finished ahead of Marquette, you are considered the better team.

Nope, the committee said, Syracuse is out. Don't misunderstand. I think Marquette should have been in the field. Illinois should not have been, nor should Purdue. Throw in the fact that Arkansas, 7-9 in the Southeastern Conference, should also have been left out, and Missouri State should have been in, and you have the right field.

That was Brill's field after his fourth (okay, maybe fifth) beer. That was my field too. The difference is we don't have Darth Vader and friends looking over our shoulder. The committee can explain from here to eternity the torture it went through in picking the field. The bottom line is this: they got it wrong. They should be ashamed of what they did, especially to Drexel, a little school trying to overcome long odds to make the field. They sat there for four days with all their printouts and information and their satellite TV dishes and they flat out blew it.

Maybe they should have had a few more beers.

jaypharmalum
03-14-2007, 11:25 PM
Feinstein is awesome - I've always appreciated his work.

shocker3
03-14-2007, 11:41 PM
Thanks for posting that article. It is great!:valley:

cpacmel
03-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Yes. Thanks AceDad. Feinstein speaks the truth.

chuckywang
03-15-2007, 02:28 AM
It's stories like these that make me wish that the at-large bids to the NCAA tournament are completely determined through computer ratings.

Strike00
03-15-2007, 03:03 AM
terrific article, thanks for posting.

dawg
03-15-2007, 08:33 AM
It's stories like these that make me wish that the at-large bids to the NCAA tournament are completely determined through computer ratings.

I've kind of been thinking the same thing. Although I ***** alot about the BCS in football so I guess its pick your poison.

Brave2001
03-15-2007, 09:04 AM
Let's see a guy who obviously doesnt like the Big 10 (I honestly couldnt tell from the the Darth Vader reference :sick:), who thinks that the big 10 shouldnt have got Illinois and Purdue in the tourney.

Not news.

Don't these writers understand that their bias completely undermines their arguement? Doesnt this guy understand that if he was a truly neutral writer and had stated the actual facts of the case and came to this conclusion that his argument would've held a lot more weight?

cbjay
03-15-2007, 09:39 AM
Let's see a guy who obviously doesnt like the Big 10 (I honestly couldnt tell from the the Darth Vader reference :sick:), who thinks that the big 10 shouldnt have got Illinois and Purdue in the tourney.

Not news.

Don't these writers understand that their bias completely undermines their arguement? Doesnt this guy understand that if he was a truly neutral writer and had stated the actual facts of the case and came to this conclusion that his argument would've held a lot more weight?

First of all, his "bias" is obvious because he's a sports OPINION writer who is NOT trying to be neutral. Second, Feinstein is the author of the ultimate "midmajor" book about the Patriot League. Third, John Feinstein is considered one of if not the best sports writer in the country having authored numerous books about golf and other sports. Finally, he is with the Washington Post which, except for those of you who think the NY Times and Post are simply liberal rags, is considered one of the two or three most influential newspapers in the country. Despite your moniker, it would seem you are a Big 10 apologist.

DUBulldog
03-15-2007, 09:43 AM
First of all, his "bias" is obvious because he's a sports OPINION writer who is NOT trying to be neutral. Second, Feinstein is the author of the ultimate "midmajor" book about the Patriot League. Third, John Feinstein is considered one of if not the best sports writer in the country having authored numerous books about golf and other sports. Finally, he is with the Washington Post which, except for those of you who think the NY Times and Post are simply liberal rags, is considered one of the two or three most influential newspapers in the country. Despite your moniker, it would seem you are a Big 10 apologist.

Agree with everything you said....Feinstein is widely considered the best sports writer in the country. If you haven't read "Season on the Brink", I highly recommend it.

Mc Bulldog
03-15-2007, 09:46 AM
I'd like to see Billy Fudge Packer read this article on national TV.

DawgieStyle
03-15-2007, 10:03 AM
I don't think Brave2001 is saying he doesn't agree with Feinstein, I'm pretty sure he does.

But it still doesn't hide the fact that Feinstein is bias towards mid-majors, and yes, he is an opinion columnist, so he is entitled to do so. I think most of us agree with his opinion, as does Brave2001....at least I hope you do.

All he was doing was pointing out his bias. Which to be honest is key to the article if you mean to understand the whole story.

The fact that he is one of the best sports writers in the country also doesn't hide his bias or opinion, nor should it. Feinstein has never claimed to be neutral, that's not what makes him good. But being good doesn't make you right, especially in opinion articles. That's up to us to decide.

What Brave2001 was trying to point out is IF! Feinstein had a reputation of being a neautral, strictly factual writer, who never strayed too far left or right of center on a topic, this obvious bias article in favor of mid majors would carry much much much more weight. This article then would carry the weight of facts and non-bias from a neutral writer who sees both sides of an issue. But that isn't the case. Feinstein has always favored the mid majors, so this comes as no surprise.


I hope that doesn't confuse some of you.

Brave2001
03-15-2007, 10:18 AM
First of all, his "bias" is obvious because he's a sports OPINION writer who is NOT trying to be neutral. Second, Feinstein is the author of the ultimate "midmajor" book about the Patriot League. Third, John Feinstein is considered one of if not the best sports writer in the country having authored numerous books about golf and other sports. Finally, he is with the Washington Post which, except for those of you who think the NY Times and Post are simply liberal rags, is considered one of the two or three most influential newspapers in the country. Despite your moniker, it would seem you are a Big 10 apologist.

Yeah, because I called out the guys obvious dislike for the Big 10...I'm a Big 10 apologist. Talk about making assumptions. (Whats the saying about assume?)

So all those previous accomplishments of this guy make this article by default good? (You sound like Billy Packer saying BCS teams past performance should be a determining factor in whether teams get in the tournament). Yes its a opinion piece, I didnt miss that, his opinion doesnt carry as much weight with me when its so obvious that his critical thinking skills are skewed by his bias.

This doesnt mean I think his opinion is completely wrong, I just think he undermines his opinion by showing his predisposed distate for the BCS conferences.

And I do think he's partially wrong. The only team in the tournament who should not be there is Stanford (just like last year I thought Air Force got a gift). The team that should replace them is Drexel or Syracuse.

I also happen to think that there was no conspiracy to make up for last years "mid major" explosion. I don't call putting Stanford in over Drexel "pay back" for last year. Was the Selection committe "paying back" the BCS conferences last year by putting Air Force in...Please.

Yes I drink the Valley "Kool Aid", I just dont take a bath in it.

RoyalShock
03-15-2007, 10:55 AM
I just can't help but wonder where all the non-BCS school reps on the committee were when the BCSers slipped their teams in.

Brave2001
03-15-2007, 11:52 AM
I just can't help but wonder where all the non-BCS school reps on the committee were when the BCSers slipped their teams in.

You didn't hear? They were all slipped mickey's in their drinks by the BCS reps.

MVC Fan
03-15-2007, 05:17 PM
Agree with everything you said....Feinstein is widely considered the best sports writer in the country. If you haven't read "Season on the Brink", I highly recommend it.

Right.

And for those questioning his neutrality...Feinstein is also personal friends w/a number of big-time college basketball coaches, too, including pretty much the entire ACC. I think he's as neutral as they come, which is a good part of why he's the best sports writer in this country. He sees all angles, not just one side or the other, and understands the whole picture, not just the 'sentimental' side or the side spoon-fed to everyone through all forms of media.

That was a terrific article in every way w/the exception of including Syracuse. I feel no sympathy for a team that doesn't leave its state until 2 months of the season have elapsed. But he's exactly right about the Big 10 receiving gifts this yr.

Brave2001
03-15-2007, 05:59 PM
Right.

And for those questioning his neutrality...Feinstein is also personal friends w/a number of big-time college basketball coaches, too, including pretty much the entire ACC. I think he's as neutral as they come, which is a good part of why he's the best sports writer in this country. He sees all angles, not just one side or the other, and understands the whole picture, not just the 'sentimental' side or the side spoon-fed to everyone through all forms of media.

That was a terrific article in every way w/the exception of including Syracuse. I feel no sympathy for a team that doesn't leave its state until 2 months of the season have elapsed. But he's exactly right about the Big 10 receiving gifts this yr.

If calling the Big 10 commissioner Darth Vader and The BCS Conferences the Empire is neutral....

Well then I guess I have a funny definition of neutral.

MSNSaluki
03-15-2007, 07:56 PM
Right.

And for those questioning his neutrality...Feinstein is also personal friends w/a number of big-time college basketball coaches, too, including pretty much the entire ACC. I think he's as neutral as they come, which is a good part of why he's the best sports writer in this country. He sees all angles, not just one side or the other, and understands the whole picture, not just the 'sentimental' side or the side spoon-fed to everyone through all forms of media.

That was a terrific article in every way w/the exception of including Syracuse. I feel no sympathy for a team that doesn't leave its state until 2 months of the season have elapsed. But he's exactly right about the Big 10 receiving gifts this yr.

Slight correction ... Feinstein is also personal friends w/a number of big-time college coaches, too, including pretty much the entire ACC (he's a Gary Williams lackey) AND the entire East Coast. If it's west of I-75, Feinstein is pretty clueless.

The only reason he jumped on Wichita State's bandwagon last year was because the Shockers played in, drum roll, Washington, D.C.

That being said, it is good to see him call out the selection committee.

RiseUp
03-15-2007, 11:21 PM
Agree with everything you said....Feinstein is widely considered the best sports writer in the country. If you haven't read "Season on the Brink", I highly recommend it.

Maybe my all-time favorite sports book.

MVC Fan
03-16-2007, 12:50 AM
If calling the Big 10 commissioner Darth Vader and The BCS Conferences the Empire is neutral....

Well then I guess I have a funny definition of neutral.

No one is perfectly neutral, but one can attempt to be neutral and still use alliteration. Not like he isn't saying anything that quite a few other people don't also think. Delany is becoming well-known for his ways in college sports. In fact, Dan Wetzel (another of the best sports writers out there) wrote a very similar article about him not long ago.