Tommy Amaker fired

[barkeep1967]

Let the speculation begin

http://michigan.scout.com/2/627553.html

[Aceman96]

It was nice having Lowery while he was around. But, now we can rename the Big10 "the ex-SIU coached conference" I guess that would be xSIUcc for short.

Edit: Maybe he can even take an assistant and drop him off at Minnesota.

[DUBulldog]

I hope SIU is able to keep Lowrey around.

Every other time recently, when SIU has lost their coach, there was a logical successor already on staff.....is that the case this time? If so, who would that be? I'd hate to see SIU have to go outside the family to make hire.

[Aceman96]

Not really a logical successor. Watson is a helluva recruiter, but I hear he isn't a great coach. We'll see. There's always Brad Korn and Pac Man.

[txsaluki05]

Rodney Watson would probably be the successor. I'd be thrilled to have him step up, and I think most SIU fans would feel the same way; we wouldn't miss a beat with him. He's been here for 19 years now!

[Aceman96]

Rodney Watson would probably be the successor. I'd be thrilled to have him step up, and I think most SIU fans would feel the same way; we wouldn't miss a beat with him. He's been here for 19 years now!

Slow down... let's not talk about most SIU fans. And, just cuz he's been here 19 years doesn't even mean he WANTS to be the head.

[Studgunners]

Let the speculation begin

http://michigan.scout.com/2/627553.html


From a post on the Michigan boards:

Everyone will scream Chris Lowery from SIU, but I think he's perfectly happy at his alma mater. We'd have to throw a ton of money at him, and I don`t think even that would be enough.

Eventually though I think we`ll have to get someone from the mid major ranks. Guys like Todd Lickliter from Butler and Lowery are alma mater guys who I believe are in their dream jobs and already have built semi power programs. Which leaves us with guys like Dana Altman from Creighton, Barry Hinson from Missouri State, Mark Turgeon from Wichita State, and Gregg Marshall from Winthrop. All younger guys who have proven they can take teams to the NCAA tourney multiple times, compete with the big boys, and recruit. If we can`t get a big name to come, we should go after a young proven mid major HC IMO.


Here's hoping he's right about Lowery, but I doubt it. I bet you MoSt. Guys are getting a chuckle out of that one. :lol:

[jaypharmalum]

Winthrop's coach is going to have his choice of jobs this off-season. To take that school into the Top 25 and beat Notre Dame in the Tourney is no small feat.

[HollywoodBrave]

I think Mike Montgomery is going to get a call.

[Nyghtewynd]

From a post on the Michigan boards:

Everyone will scream Chris Lowery from SIU, but I think he's perfectly happy at his alma mater. We'd have to throw a ton of money at him, and I don`t think even that would be enough.

Eventually though I think we`ll have to get someone from the mid major ranks. Guys like Todd Lickliter from Butler and Lowery are alma mater guys who I believe are in their dream jobs and already have built semi power programs. Which leaves us with guys like Dana Altman from Creighton, Barry Hinson from Missouri State, Mark Turgeon from Wichita State, and Gregg Marshall from Winthrop. All younger guys who have proven they can take teams to the NCAA tourney multiple times, compete with the big boys, and recruit. If we can`t get a big name to come, we should go after a young proven mid major HC IMO.


Here's hoping he's right about Lowery, but I doubt it. I bet you MoSt. Guys are getting a chuckle out of that one. :lol:

I'm not surprised, honestly. Everyone who doesn't have to watch his in-game coaching moves and knows him only from his quotes thinks that he's a great guy. But anyone who takes Hinson now (and there may be someone, honestly...I always thought he'd take another job before he was fired) will be getting another Alford...a raw but unproven coach who's going to take a lot of on-the-job teaching, and I think Michigan's had just about enough of that.

[dogdays]

Anyone who says Watson isnt a good coach either hasnt been to practice or witnessed him in action.

[SubGod22]

I'm still not convinced that the Winthrop coach will leave.

[Nyghtewynd]

N/M

[Studgunners]

I'm still not convinced that the Winthrop coach will leave.


The only way he wouldn't leave is if he weren't offered a job. It's pretty much the dream and goal of nearly every mid-major coach (Lowery included I'm sure) to move up the coaching ladder. Creighton and WSU are a little bit different situations in that they have come up with a lot of scratch and their coaches have great situations. Plus the Valley and maybe 2 or 3 other mid-major conferences are the only places a mid major coach can possibly sustain some success (i.e. fairly consistent NCAA bids, an occasional tourney win or sweet 16). But the money and advantages (and of course pressure to win) are so much greater at the majority of BCS schools.

[SubGod22]

I know he turned down a couple of offers last year. I don't remember which jobs so who knows.

[bcrawf]

He accepted the College of Charleston job, had the press conference and then changed his mind while driving back home...

[Studgunners]

He accepted the College of Charleston job, had the press conference and then changed his mind while driving back home...

Are they BCS school? Are they even a "College" or is that a fancy name for a high school, like Seton Hall Prep?

[redbirdtim]

1.) I really don't consider Altman "young".
2.) I could see Turg taking the job at Mich. but only if they threw about $1.5 mil on the table. Who knows if he's even on the list though.
3.) I don't see Marshall leaving right now unless he gets a perfect offer. I think his pay at Michigan would probably be 3-4 times what he would have received from C of C. That's always hard to pass up.
4.) If Lowery doesn't leave, I expect him to see a very nice raise from SIU.
5.) Stay away from Mike Montgomery...he's on my top 5 list for the ISU job! I've decided that Michigan can't have him unless we don't want him :lol:

[Aegyptus]

As much as I am concerned over Lowrey leaving, I still think it is WAY to early to panic. Here is what Andy Katz said on ESPN.com:

"According to ESPN.com's Andy Katz, some of the names up for consideration to replace Amaker include Washington State's Tony Bennett, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, former Golden State Warriors coach Mike Montgomery, UNLV's Lon Kruger, West Virginia's John Beilein, Xavier's Sean Miller and Cal's Ben Braun, as well as ESPN analysts Rick Majerus and Steve Lavin." Plus, Tubby Smith might be interested.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2802320

Obviously Lowrey's name will be in the mix, and OBVIOUSLY he will consider it (frankly, who wouldn't). But, from Katz's list I think all but Montgomery, Kruger and Miller are ahead of him on the depth chart unless the Salukis make a deep run. Michigan is going to want a big name and they are going to have a real big pile of money. I think Bennett, Braun, Majerus, and Lavin would all take the job. I doubt Beilein would because WV would find the money. Plus, these are just the names on the table right now. Michigan is a destination school, and like Indiana last year, even established winning coaches in the Big 12, Big East or SEC might be interested.

It is going to get interesting, but Lowrey is not the first choice.

[kyyle23]

Which leaves us with guys like Dana Altman from Creighton, Barry Hinson from Missouri State, Mark Turgeon from Wichita State, and Gregg Marshall from Winthrop. All younger guys who have proven they can take teams to the NCAA tourney multiple times, compete with the big boys, and recruit.

hmmmmmmmm :lol:

[barkeep1967]

It is going to get interesting, but Lowrey is not the first choice.

Weber was not the first choice at Illinois either

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_200v.gif

[RiseUp]

Winthrop's coach is going to have his choice of jobs this off-season. To take that school into the Top 25 and beat Notre Dame in the Tourney is no small feat.

Marshall was named head coach of College of Charleston last spring, and then on his drive back to Rock Hill, he changed his mind. He held another press conference and said that he changed his mind and he's staying at Wintrhop. After that episode, I really don't see him leaving Winthrop.

[iSASO]

Here's a little more info on the subject from Gary Parrish @CBS Sportsline, with a local twist:

"It needs a high-quality coach who can go into Detroit, lure talent and win games, and so that's the type of person who will be targeted in a search that'll begin immediately, if it hasn't already.

The list of possible replacements is long, and some names circulating are Washington State's Tony Bennett, UNLV's Lon Kruger, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, Nevada's Mark Fox, Wichita State's Mark Turgeon, West Virginia's John Beilein, Memphis' John Calipari, former Stanford coach Mike Montgomery and former UCLA coach Steve Lavin."



Coaches ready to move up:

Scott Spinelli (Wichita State): Spinelli is a tireless worker who has forever recruited at a level higher than his position, luring All-American candidates Blake Schilb to Loyola-Chicago and Aleks Maric to Nebraska. Now, this former NBA scout with endless East Coast connections is doing the same thing as the associate head coach at Wichita State, and that he's spent time under two respected mentors -- Mark Turgeon and Barry Collier -- is an indication Spinelli isn't just a recruiter but also a well-versed understudy in the business of coaching.

[blueblood]

Here's a little more info on the subject from Gary Parrish @CBS Sportsline, with a local twist:

"It needs a high-quality coach who can go into Detroit, lure talent and win games, and so that's the type of person who will be targeted in a search that'll begin immediately, if it hasn't already.

The list of possible replacements is long, and some names circulating are Washington State's Tony Bennett, UNLV's Lon Kruger, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, Nevada's Mark Fox, Wichita State's Mark Turgeon, West Virginia's John Beilein, Memphis' John Calipari, former Stanford coach Mike Montgomery and former UCLA coach Steve Lavin."



Coaches ready to move up:

Scott Spinelli (Wichita State): Spinelli is a tireless worker who has forever recruited at a level higher than his position, luring All-American candidates Blake Schilb to Loyola-Chicago and Aleks Maric to Nebraska. Now, this former NBA scout with endless East Coast connections is doing the same thing as the associate head coach at Wichita State, and that he's spent time under two respected mentors -- Mark Turgeon and Barry Collier -- is an indication Spinelli isn't just a recruiter but also a well-versed understudy in the business of coaching.

Is it posible for ISASO to ever make a post without telling us how great WSU is or slamming another program? no.

[SalukiSpike]

All he did was quote an article.

[meatballs]

As much as I am concerned over Lowrey leaving, I still think it is WAY to early to panic. Here is what Andy Katz said on ESPN.com:

"According to ESPN.com's Andy Katz, some of the names up for consideration to replace Amaker include Washington State's Tony Bennett, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, former Golden State Warriors coach Mike Montgomery, UNLV's Lon Kruger, West Virginia's John Beilein, Xavier's Sean Miller and Cal's Ben Braun, as well as ESPN analysts Rick Majerus and Steve Lavin." Plus, Tubby Smith might be interested.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2802320




I think Andy Katz is contractually obligated to mention Lavin and Majerus for every job opening.

Is Michigan really that great of a job? I mean sure, they can throw a bunch of money at a coach, but they haven't been to the tourney since '98(?) and their facilities are average at best. Yes they have big conference money and name recognition, but so do the coaches for a lot of the names on that list. I think some of those names may use the Michigan as leverage to renegotiate thier contracts but I don't know if they would go there.

I think the job will go to a mid-major up and comer like Lowery or Miller, or a major conference retread. My guess, and this is totally a guess, Stan Heath. Presumably he can recruit Detroit since he's from there, he obviously doesn't fit well at Arkansas, and I think he's done a better job there than most people give him credit for.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

Is it posible for ISASO to ever make a post without telling us how great WSU is or slamming another program? no.

Did you happen to see Kyle's post a few back? Why weren't you all up in arms over the shot he took at WSU? Like someone said, all ISASO did was quote an article.

[Aegyptus]

I think the job will go to a mid-major up and comer like Lowery or Miller, or a major conference retread. My guess, and this is totally a guess, Stan Heath. Presumably he can recruit Detroit since he's from there, he obviously doesn't fit well at Arkansas, and I think he's done a better job there than most people give him credit for.

That is the point. A mid-major up and comer (Lowrey) is the obvious choice and Michigan can get whomever they want from those ranks (probably including Lowrey), so they are going to make a run at some BCS coaches first. I think Stan Heath is a good suggestion. That is the kind of coach that can make Michigan fans happy. As evidence, as before, I refer to last years Big Ten destination job, Indiana, where the facilities are also not that great and the team was not that good (thanks to the lousy Big Ten, IU still made the tourney), but they pulled another BCS coach whose program was on the downslide. I think Michigan will find someone like that. There will be those coaches that use it to get a raise from their present schools (perhaps Beilein, others), but I still think one (like Heath) will take the job before Michigan has to go their fallback position of a mid-major up and comer.

One thing, however, is that this is going to take time to play out and for Michigan to try out a couple of BCS coaches. Because Michigan is the main job on the table at the moment, it might take a while before the dominoes start to fall. So, the Valley may be in for a long wait before we know if we are going to lose one of our great young coaches.

[SubGod22]

Did you happen to see Kyle's post a few back? Why weren't you all up in arms over the shot he took at WSU? Like someone said, all ISASO did was quote an article.

Because it's quite obvious to everyone that blueblood has a sick hatred for all that is Wichita State that he can't see anything wrong with any negative comments towards said university. And he's too ignorant to see the hypocricy of what he says


And because we know blueblood is one of the biggest idiots in CU nation. His sole purpose is to try and piss off as many WSU fans as he can. Which is why I pay very little attention to anything he posts and suggest others do the same.


I'm officially back to not caring what he posts anymore