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Studgunners
03-18-2007, 05:35 PM
It just goes to show you what the Mid-Majors can do with proper seedings for a change. SIU gets a 4 seed and plays like it and on into the sweet 16, as does Butler as a 5 seed and UNLV with a 7.

For years and years, the mid-majors gaudey records were discounted as nothing more than smoke and mirrors and when they end up with an 8-12 seed and lose in round one (or two on occasion), the pundits say see, I told you so. But look what happens when they get a protected seed (less travel and lots more fans at the game), first class hotel accommodations (don't laugh, the teams get the better hotels based on their seedings at their pods and it can make a difference as those of you who travel on business can attest to) and a favorable first round matchup (i.e. a 12 or 13 seeded team). They prove they can take care of business just like a BCS school who gets the protected seed.

It'll be tough for SIU to advance past a team like Kansas, but it's not unthinkable as Bradley (another MVC team) proved last year and like George Mason proved in their run to the final 4 last year as a low seed.

But my point being that a mid-major who's ranked in the top 10-15 at the end of the year should get a 3-5 seed instead of a 7 seed like Nevada got this year or a 10 that Creighton got. Not to sound paranoid, but the deck really is stacked against the mid-majors and that's not the American way. Fairness is, or at least should be.

chuckywang
03-18-2007, 06:27 PM
This is what I've been trying to say for awhile. The argument why mid-majors were left out always has to do with their subpar record in the NCAA tournament.

But mid-majors were set up to fail from the start by always being underseeded (even UNLV this year deserved better than a 7 seed). If you took the best three mid-majors and gave them 3-4-5 seeds, then they have just as good a chance to advance to the sweet sixteen as any team.

HollywoodBrave
03-18-2007, 06:29 PM
Nevada did not have the numbers in terms of wins to deserve a higher seed. UNLV did, but Nevada did not. People needs to stop complaining about seeds. You need to win the basketball games. SIU played stifling D and didn't complain. Should they have been a 3? Probably, but you know what, they just shut down who was in front of them. Same with Butler. UNLV was the best team in their quadrant.

If you show up for 40 minutes, you have a chance to win regardless of seeds.

HollywoodBrave
03-18-2007, 06:30 PM
George Mason made it as an 11. Wisconsin under Dick Bennett made it as an 8. The seeds are not why mid-majors don't make the Final Four. They don't make it because they lose to better teams.

Studgunners
03-18-2007, 07:17 PM
Nevada did not have the numbers in terms of wins to deserve a higher seed. UNLV did, but Nevada did not. People needs to stop complaining about seeds. You need to win the basketball games. SIU played stifling D and didn't complain. Should they have been a 3? Probably, but you know what, they just shut down who was in front of them. Same with Butler. UNLV was the best team in their quadrant.

If you show up for 40 minutes, you have a chance to win regardless of seeds.


Nevada was RANKED like 10th or so in the last polls before the tourney and they get a 7 seed??? Seedings mean almost everything when it comes to the NCAA tourney. If you get the dreaded 8-9 seed game, not only do you have a tough first round game, but the death game against the #1 seed in round 2. I would rather take my chances against a 13 and a 5 seed in the first 2 rounds.

HollywoodBrave
03-19-2007, 02:47 AM
All it means is that you may lose one round later. George Mason beat #1 seed UConn and #3 UNC. I'd say they blew that theory out of the water. If you're a good team, you'll win the ball games. You seem like the kind of fan who is hoping someone else knocks out the great team before you do.

Nevada was ranked 10th, but they were not the 10th best team in America. They had one top 50 win, but a bunch of top 100 wins. The WAC was decent, but not super strong. They lost twice to Utah State in a week. If you think they were a top 10 team, well then all you needed to see was the beatdown Memphis put on them.

MSNSaluki
03-19-2007, 09:25 AM
Memphis closed the game on a 14-0 run to win by 16. That's not a beatdown.

But your point is taken ... Nevada may have been a tad overrated during the season. Their resume didn't exactly add up to their ranking.

In the NCAA tournament it's all about matchups, not seeds.