Next AD at Evansville?

[AceUE21]

The next AD for UE should be someone like an AD from a smaller school, or an associate AD from a BCS school. Brownlee and Crews have no experience whatsoever in the administration area of college athletics and should not be canidates for the position.

[AcePurpleFan]

Already posted this on a different thread, so I'll repost it here:

I think Brownlee should be considered more than Crews. He has significant fund-raising abilities. You and I both know that is what UE needs most right now. As for other candidates I have no idea who it should be specifically. One thing I do know is Evansville is a very unique town. McGillis alienated many long-time doners and the entire regime had an arrogance about them. I'm not saying that is true or not, I'm saying that was the perception.

One thing I will agree with AceDad is that a successful or "good" AD at another school might not be good for Evansville. Thus, I circle back around to Brownlee or Crews. Both men have proven - at Evansville - that they can fundraise very, very effectively. Both men have many connections. This is an absolute must for the AD spot. Remember, the AD is not a media position, so put aside any personal hate or lack of media effectivness both have. The AD is an administrative position. With that said, those are the types of people I'd be looking for.

[AceUE21]

There's more to being an AD than fundraising. Money is an issue, but the guy has to know about other sports. Brownlee and Crews are experts at their respective sports, but may not have a clue about any of the other sports. The main job of an AD is to hire the coahces. You think Crews or Brownlee could conduct a search for a coach and find the right one?

[AcePurpleFan]

You could draw names out of a hat and find better coaches than McGillis' hires. The point is, fundraising is a very big part of it. Hiring coaches is also a very big part of it. I don't think fundraising is specific to a particular expertise (i.e. sport). I think if you can fundraise in basketball or baseball individually, you can do it on a larger scale. As for hiring coaches, I have no idea if they can. But I'm sure either of them can do better than McGillis.

[AceFan]

What's the opinion of promoting John Rasmussen to the AD position? He has a Master's Degree in Sports Management and certainly knows UE after working there for a couple years.

From the UE website:

John Rasmussen, a member of the athletics department staff at the University of Missouri the past five years, has joined the University of Evansville as associate athletics director for development.

A native of Houston, Texas, Rasmussen graduated from Brigham Young University in 1997 with a degree in communication studies, and earned his master's degree in sport management from the University of Texas in 1999. He served as a faculty lecturer in sport management at Texas the following year, and then joined the staff at Missouri in 2000 as assistant director of the Tiger Scholarship Fund. He was promoted to director of the Tiger Scholarship Fund in 2002.

[AcePurpleFan]

Not sure. I heard a rumor that when he was brought in it was with the intent of filling McGillis' spot, but who knows the credibility of that. I also wonder why Boxell was promoted to interim A.D. if Rasmussen was next in line?

The fact that Rasmussen was not given a chance makes me believe Jennings is going in a new direction (possibly a historical direction with Crews or Brownlee or someone else formerly tied to UE). McGillis leaving to take an Associate AD position at one of the weaker Big East schools is a step-down; at best, it's a lateral move. I see a little Spring cleaing going on in the Athletic Department.

[AceOrangeFan]

The next AD at UE must be part of the family with strong local ties.The person should also be committed to bringing back football and keeping UE D1. We really need an updated Jim Byers. Crews would fit the bill and as I have said before he would provide a boost to the basketball program. Who else could schedule the big name schools such as IU, Texas Tech, and UK? Crews could do it through his contacts and friendships which would greatly increase season ticket sales.

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[AceFan]

Who else could schedule the big name schools such as IU, Texas Tech, and UK? Crews could do it through his contacts and friendships which would greatly increase season ticket sales.

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I think you've been drinking the purple Kool-Ade!

Fans moaned about UE scheduling Tennessee Martin, Elon, Maryland Baltimore County, etc. when Crews was coach. Why would it be different now? Those big names won't schedule anyone in the MVC regularly. I haven't seen Chris Lowery scheduling games with Illinois (Bruce Weber) or Purdue (Matt Painter). Why should we expect it to be different if Crews is AD? If we were able to schedule BCS schools, a couple losses to them each year would be OK to generate revenue, but right now we need to schedule teams that we can complete with.

[Ace Dad]

Football??

Football??

Where is UE going to get money to rebuild a football program?

[Lurking Dog]

Football??

Now we're talking about something important!

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[AcePurpleFan]

Run it like a glorified high school program. Make it non-scholarship (which would bring in 75 more tuition-paying students) and let them play out at Reitz bowl (like they used to) or Bosse high school.

[Lurking Dog]

You'll need more than a glorified high school team to beat San Diego, defending PFL champs and a top-25 team last season.

Is McCutchan Stadium no longer capable of serving its original purpose?

[AcePurpleFan]

I think you could still play football (americano), but the other football team (soccer) might throw a fit. I guess the main issue would be conflicting seasons and probably the destruction to the field. You'd also have to fit an End-Zone in there somewhere. Right now I'm not sure there is enough room with the walkway so close. Finally, tere's no locker room space left under the stadium. With that said, I think you could probably convert the surface to that new field turf and baseball could probably construct something under Braun.... I think it's possible.

[UE-BBALL#1]

Bringing back football would be dumb, even non-scholarship. Non-scholarship football will bring in 75 paying students, and drastically increase costs in the athletic department, probably overall losing money. Know how much it costs to take 50 players and put them up in San Diego? Also, no one wants to watch a bad non-scholarship football team. If the support had been there before then they wouldn't have had to lose the program. Only after its gone do people whine that we need it.

[Lurking Dog]

Just curious UEBBALL,

Do you know...

1. How much tuition revenue those 75 students would bring in (although rosters are typically closer to 100)?

2. What the football budget is at a Pioneer League school?

Go ahead, guess.

[AcePurpleFan]

Easy... don't overload him. I and my $100,000 (hint hint) UE education will help out with half the problem. Adding 100 additional students paying $25,000/year in tuition equals $2.5 MILLION dollars per year. Now I do remember Economics 101 and realize there are some variable costs associated with 100 additional students. But I also remember there are overhead or fixed costs that are not dependant upon the 100 additional students, i.e. lights, heat, etc (for those of you who didn't don't have a $100,000 college education). Thus, assuming mere $1 million profit margin that leaves plenty of money for a football squad. Also it probably would cost some money to go to San Diego... so go play Western Kentucky and the other Gateway schools instead. That would be a lot cheaper.

[UE-BBALL#1]

Great, so you want UE, non scholarship, to play a bunch of scholarship Gateway schools. That might work for a couple games, although teams like WKU have goals of making their post season and probably don't want a non-scholly team on their schedule. Assuming we went back to non-scholarship I would assume we would be in the pioneeer league. That means travel to San Diego, Jacksonville, Davidson at least every other year. Do explain why if football was making money before it was removed. There was virtually no fan support for the program. UE never had a winning conference record in the PL. What exactly makes you think football would be successful now? What makes you think it will make money for the athletic department? What makes you think that fans will support a team that doesn't win?

[UE-BBALL#1]

The university is already working now with an almost full enrollment. You assume football just adds 100 extra students. If UE just wanted to add another 100 students for the money they could do that without any of the expenses of a football program. There goes that logic.

100 spots for football players means 100 less spots for other students. Thus, no extra income from tuition.

[AcePurpleFan]

I think they should add an additional 100 students. But if they were football players, the money could be "earmarked" for athletics. Thus, any revenue generated from the tuition could be used to fund football and other athletics. In fact, I think the school should do this anyway for all non-scholarship athletes paying tuition. Since the athletic department has to actually pay the school for athletic scholarships, the school should have to pay the athletic department for tuition revenues generated by athletes. This only seems fair.

[UE-BBALL#1]

I think they should add an additional 100 students. But if they were football players, the money could be "earmarked" for athletics. Thus, any revenue generated from the tuition could be used to fund football and other athletics. In fact, I think the school should do this anyway for all non-scholarship athletes paying tuition. Since the athletic department has to actually pay the school for athletic scholarships, the school should have to pay the athletic department for tuition revenues generated by athletes. This only seems fair.

I won't disagree with you on that. However I'm pretty skeptical that would ever happen, thus one must ask would bringing back football be worth the trouble? There are too many people here who whine that too much money goes to athletics already, I doubt they would stand for letting tuition money of additional students go straight to athletics.

[AcePurpleFan]

I'm skeptical the other side of Walnut will do anything to help improve athletics.

[Lurking Dog]

You assume football just adds 100 extra students. If UE just wanted to add another 100 students for the money they could do that without any of the expenses of a football program. There goes that logic.

100 spots for football players means 100 less spots for other students. Thus, no extra income from tuition.


No. If you adhere to your academic standards, you'll find 100 qualified student-athletes who would have otherwise attended a school with football. And collectively they'll pay UE 4x the football budget every year.

Maybe this time you could find a coach who will produce a winning team. Or don't you think winning is possible at your school?

[Lurking Dog]

The university is already working now with an almost full enrollment.

Not exactly. From the Chronicle of Higher Education (explaining UE's de-valued bonds):

"University of Evansville, by Moody's, from Baa2 to Baa3. Applies to $15-million in outstanding bonds. Reasons cited include an enrollment decline at the Indiana institution from more than 3,000 students in 1997 to just over 2,400 in the fall of 2002, increasing debt, and an operating deficit of $1.5-million in the 2002 fiscal year."

1997 was the last year UE had football.

Current enrollment is 2,813.

[AcePurpleFan]

Wow nice stats... we need football back!

[AcePurpleFan]

Here's what I was talking about with the side walk. McCutchen is off to the left. Obviously Baseball and Softball are off to the right. They could bust up the sidewalk to build an end-zone if they wanted. It would cut into part of the soccer practice field though.

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[UE-BBALL#1]

Not exactly. From the Chronicle of Higher Education (explaining UE's de-valued bonds):

"University of Evansville, by Moody's, from Baa2 to Baa3. Applies to $15-million in outstanding bonds. Reasons cited include an enrollment decline at the Indiana institution from more than 3,000 students in 1997 to just over 2,400 in the fall of 2002, increasing debt, and an operating deficit of $1.5-million in the 2002 fiscal year."

1997 was the last year UE had football.

Current enrollment is 2,813.

I don't know how with a decline in students, but I know that certain parts of the school have had to put enrollment increases on hold because of lack of faculty and classroom space. That's one of the reasons they are building the new school of business, so that they can increase enrollment in that school. Also there are plans to increase residence hall capacities to handle more students.

[scottpt99UE]

When talking about football and 100 non-scholarships bringing in 1 million+ income, it would not be that much, because the majority of these players would more than likely qualify for an academic scholarship. I don't see football coming back for quite a few year...if ever.

[GoPurpleAces]

Michael R. Moore has served as Director of Athletics since July 1, 1996. During his tenure the Athletics Program has been reclassified NCAA Division I, been accepted as a member of the Mid-Continent Conference and fully certified under the NCAA Athletics Certification Program.

Jaguars Athletics has also expanded from nine to 14 varsity programs (six men and eight women). Under Moore’s direction the IUPUI Intercollegiate Athletics Program has experienced both athletics and academic success. The 2000 Men’s Soccer Team made the first NCAA Tournament in IUPUI’s history. Since then Women’s Tennis (2003, 2004), Men’s Golf (2002,2005) and Men’s Basketball (2003) have all participated in NCAA Championships. The Men’s Soccer (1999), Volleyball (2000) and Men’s Tennis (2004) teams have won regular season Mid-Con Championships. IUPUI has also captured USA Today/NCAA Academic Achievement Awards in 2002 and 2003.

Moore has served as Chair of the Mid-Continent Conference Director’s Council and as President of the NCAA Division I-AAA Athletics Director Association. He is currently Mid-Continent Conference representative to the NCAA Division I Management Council.

Prior to assuming his present position, the Lancaster, Ohio native was the Senior Associate Director of Athletics and Development at the University of Evansville from 1988 to 1996. In that position, he supervised the Purple Aces Club, began the in house production of the Aces Radio Network, instituted the university licensing program and coordinated many special events on campus. He was the university’s assistant athletic director for budgetary affairs from 1983-88.

Moore received both his undergraduate and Masters Degrees from Ohio University. He has also worked at Davidson College and Vanderbilt University.

Michael and his wife, Suzann reside in Indianapolis. He has two daughters -- Maggie (21) and Molly (19).


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[AceFan]

Michael R. Moore has served as Director of Athletics since July 1, 1996. During his tenure the Athletics Program has been reclassified NCAA Division I, been accepted as a member of the Mid-Continent Conference and fully certified under the NCAA Athletics Certification Program.

Jaguars Athletics has also expanded from nine to 14 varsity programs (six men and eight women). Under Moore’s direction the IUPUI Intercollegiate Athletics Program has experienced both athletics and academic success. The 2000 Men’s Soccer Team made the first NCAA Tournament in IUPUI’s history. Since then Women’s Tennis (2003, 2004), Men’s Golf (2002,2005) and Men’s Basketball (2003) have all participated in NCAA Championships. The Men’s Soccer (1999), Volleyball (2000) and Men’s Tennis (2004) teams have won regular season Mid-Con Championships. IUPUI has also captured USA Today/NCAA Academic Achievement Awards in 2002 and 2003.

Moore has served as Chair of the Mid-Continent Conference Director’s Council and as President of the NCAA Division I-AAA Athletics Director Association. He is currently Mid-Continent Conference representative to the NCAA Division I Management Council.

Prior to assuming his present position, the Lancaster, Ohio native was the Senior Associate Director of Athletics and Development at the University of Evansville from 1988 to 1996. In that position, he supervised the Purple Aces Club, began the in house production of the Aces Radio Network, instituted the university licensing program and coordinated many special events on campus. He was the university’s assistant athletic director for budgetary affairs from 1983-88.

Moore received both his undergraduate and Masters Degrees from Ohio University. He has also worked at Davidson College and Vanderbilt University.

Michael and his wife, Suzann reside in Indianapolis. He has two daughters -- Maggie (21) and Molly (19).


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Moore has better qualifications for the AD position than anyone else previously mentioned on VT.

A few questions (the obvious!):
1. Would he be willing to leave Indianapolis to move to Evansville?
2. Would he be willing to leave IUPUI with an enrollment of nearly 30,000 students to UE with an enrollment of less than 3000?
3. Would UE be able to offer a financial package for this lateral move that would make the answers to the first two questions......"yes".

[AcePurpleFan]

That's the type of person we need to be looking for; someone familiar with UE. I also like that he worked in the Athletic Department when we had some success.

[Snapshot9]

Sheesh, this one is so glaringly obvious - PaPa Cousinard!!!
See that was easy .... :aces:

[AcePurpleFan]

Any good rumors on the next AD...? It's too quite. :fear: