Prediction: Your school's record in 07-08

[jaypharmalum]

We've tried to guess the order of finish for the MVC next year, but I'm interested in what everyone thinks will realistically happen with their own team.

Overall regular season record, conference record, postseason (NCAA / NIT).


Creighton - 18-12, 10-8, NIT

The Jays will struggle early on with a difficult OOC schedule. Playing with inexperienced guys (as Creighton will be) is potentially fatal when the MVC season begins. I look for the Jays to lose some games they should win, win some they should lose, and have a most interesting season with every game within 10 points.

The Jays will get a win or two in St. Louis and a home NIT date which allows for 20 wins.

[SubGod22]

22-8, 13-5, NCAA

I can't help it. I like what's been going on and some pieces are falling into place to help us in the post. The new style looks to use the talent of those returning better than the old system. More defensive pressure with the personnel we have and I can't help but feel pretty positive.

[shockerfan13]

I like what's happening in Wichita and think by the end of the year we could be a force. Cupboards not bare in Wichita and it's a "down" year for majority of the Valley.

19-11, 11-7(4th), NIT

[Nyghtewynd]

Barry goes out with a colossal flame-out.

14-17, 7-11.

[shockerfan13]

Barry goes out with a colossal flame-out.

14-17, 7-11.

Is that your prediction or wishful thinking? Maybe he'll do JUST enough to keep his job again this year...:P

[bcrawf]

UNI is going to be pretty strong, led by Eric Coleman and the young players that will be a year older. It will also help to have Jake a year more experienced and the experience of being Team USA in the World University Games-

24-7 (14-4)- At least one win in the Dance

[Nyghtewynd]

I *never* wish for MSU to do poorly. I just don't see the talent on this roster to keep up. Sometimes I just don't pound the Kool-ade on my own team.

[MSNSaluki]

SIU: 0-31, 0-18.

Our streak will come to an end.

[TrueBlueJay]

UNI is going to be pretty strong, led by Eric Coleman and the young players that will be a year older. It will also help to have Jake a year more experienced and the experience of being Team USA in the World University Games-

24-7 (14-4)- At least one win in the Dance

How much did you pay for these?

http://www.solarmagic.com/sm_images/purple_sunglass_sm.jpg

[MoValley John]

"My" team is the Harlem Globetrotters. 162-0. Enough said.

[Aegyptus]

How much did you pay for these?

http://www.solarmagic.com/sm_images/purple_sunglass_sm.jpg

Are those supposed to be "rose colored glasses?"

I think these are a little more appropriate.

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/20125.jpg?is=90,90,0xffffff

What do you think people are going to say on a thread like this? It is the time of year to be optimistic, well, I guess unless you are a Missouri State fan.

[smsandmsuson]

I told this to my father. MSU will see every major sport head coach be let go in a span of 4 years; starting with the third and Barry after next year. Hopefully Guttin follows the year after that.

I cant see more then 15 wins next year. If we do, I dont think we will see my thoughts from above come true:cursing:

[BeeLine]

While I'm not quite ready to give a prediction on the win total and conference finish for the Bears yet[ need to see Knapp and Cooks along with Austin and Weems alittle this summer] I see things differently that Nyght. First off we return both our starting center and point guard and I have to feel both will be at least a little improved in their second full year as starters, especially Spencer who had not played in almost 2 full seasons.Secondly , Deven Mitchell [ best 6th man award] also returns after a season in which he proved his knee could hold up after sitting a full year as well, and there was no doubt who our best player was down the stretch and his name wasn't Blake, no offense meant. So right there we stand to be improved in at least 3 of 5 starting positions by the most conservative of estimates. One would assume we also get a little more from Shane Laurie and Dale Lamberth;Dale especially is capable of stepping up his scoring with increased court time. So then the issue turns to what does one think that Knapp/Cooks/ Jehle/ Austin/ Weems and others give us compared to what Ahearn/Bilyeu/ Chaney did. On paper they gave us about 34 ppg and 12 rbs, but of course experience is a hard intangible to place a direct value on. In my eyes we appear a bigger stronger more athletic team than we've been; we don't have a single shooter the reputation of Ahearn, but we have a couple guys who stroke the trey well , a couple with great midrange games, and project a much better post offense with Knapp/Richards/ Jehle. And if Austin is good enough to not rs and split the time at the point, then I think things could be very interesting.I'll give a record prediction after seeing the newbies a bit this summer.

[tBU]

Before the start of the season I don't see BU losing a game.:braves:

Now once the season starts.......


We have a tough non-con with Izzo coming to Peoria on my birthday....McDermott bringing his version of ISU and BU hates anything named ISU. VCU also comes to town.

Too bad the big east is waking up with DePauls annual beatdown at the hands of BU no longer an option for us since they opted out of a nice growing rivalry...calling Gary Williams...anyone...anyone.

With so many new faces alot of pressure will be on Ruffin and a hopefully well healed Crouch early.

What was the question...oh yeah. 24-8 Dance....dreaded 8-9 seed, hoping for a 7 or 10.:valley:

[AcePurpleFan]

I told this to my father. MSU will see every major sport head coach be let go in a span of 4 years; starting with the third and Barry after next year. Hopefully Guttin follows the year after that.

I cant see more then 15 wins next year. If we do, I dont think we will see my thoughts from above come true:cursing:


I'm glad you brought up Guttin. I have a question for MSU fans... check in the Baseball Forum, I won't take up space here.

Evansville be around .500 and finish 5th in the Valley.

[Clawinball]

I don't like Barry either but we've got in a bunch of talent, and maybe the talent will overshadow the coaching deficeit by a little. I'll go ahead and say my bears next year will have 20 wins. I don't know how many games we have exactly so just predicted the wins! :bears: :helpsmilie:

[salukibob]

Southern's schedule is incomplete so this is difficult to do. I believe we are awaiting confirmation of a tournament in Anaheim that will include USC. Don't know who else is in it yet and don't know the format, meaning I don't know if you get 3 games out of it guaranteed. Also needing one more non-conference game. The rumor on that is restarting a series with Northern Illinois which will undoubtedly go over well with all of the Chicago area Saluki alums if it happens.

[blueness]

2-1, in the NCAA Tournament.

Dana's youngest team in years gets hot down the stretch and takes him to the elusive Sweet16. :lol:

(This will be after they finish 4th in the reg. season and win STL, again).

NCAA Bids:
SIU
BU
CU

:jays:

[tennis08tarheels]

28-2 in the regular season
31-2 going into the NCAA
34-3 finish to the season

[TrueBlueJay]

Are those supposed to be "rose colored glasses?"

I think these are a little more appropriate.

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/20125.jpg?is=90,90,0xffffff

What do you think people are going to say on a thread like this? It is the time of year to be optimistic, well, I guess unless you are a Missouri State fan.

Ummmmm....no - they are purple glasses for the purple kitties to see the world through.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

28-2 in the regular season
31-2 going into the NCAA
34-3 finish to the season

Wow, Elite 8 huh? Interesting.

[RedbirdWarrior]

:redbirds:

19-11 Regular season
20-12 After MVC Tment
22-13 After NIT

Best season in a decade coming up for the Redbirds of Normal IL.

:redbirds:

[troutangler]

While I'm not quite ready to give a prediction on the win total and conference finish for the Bears yet[ need to see Knapp and Cooks along with Austin and Weems alittle this summer] I see things differently that Nyght.

I don't think the title of this thread asked for spin and cheerleading. It just asked for a prediction on wins/losses and postseason.

First off we return both our starting center and point guard and I have to feel both will be at least a little improved in their second full year as starters, especially Spencer who had not played in almost 2 full seasons.

Richards and Spencer are about the 4th or 5th best players at their position in the conference.

Secondly , Deven Mitchell [ best 6th man award] also returns after a season in which he proved his knee could hold up after sitting a full year as well, and there was no doubt who our best player was down the stretch and his name wasn't Blake, no offense meant. So right there we stand to be improved in at least 3 of 5 starting positions by the most conservative of estimates.

You're right about the Deven part. He is the one proven guy on the team that I trust when the ball is in his hands.

One would assume we also get a little more from Shane Laurie and Dale Lamberth;Dale especially is capable of stepping up his scoring with increased court time.

Shane is never going to be a scorer on this team. He just isn't quick enough to get his own shot and he struggles from three point range even when he gets a set shot and is open. Lamberth can score, but can't play defense, so Barry won't play him enough for him to score much. I like him, but he won't get any more time than he has the last two years.

So then the issue turns to what does one think that Knapp/Cooks/ Jehle/ Austin/ Weems and others give us compared to what Ahearn/Bilyeu/ Chaney did. On paper they gave us about 34 ppg and 12 rbs, but of course experience is a hard intangible to place a direct value on. In my eyes we appear a bigger stronger more athletic team than we've been; we don't have a single shooter the reputation of Ahearn, but we have a couple guys who stroke the trey well , a couple with great midrange games, and project a much better post offense with Knapp/Richards/ Jehle. And if Austin is good enough to not rs and split the time at the point, then I think things could be very interesting.I'll give a record prediction after seeing the newbies a bit this summer.

Jehle is not going to be better as a redshirt freshman than Bilyeu was as a senior. Knapp could possible pick up Bilyeu's slack, but most of the MSU fans are betting that Knapp will back Richards up at the 5, not play the 4.

All of the stuff about the Bears being more athletic, bigger, etc. doesn't matter. You know why? BECAUSE BARRY IS STILL COACHING THE TEAM! MSU fans say the same things every year in the spring/summer. "I like the guys we have coming back", "We're really talented", "We're pretty athletic", "We can shoot". Yeah, a lot of those things are true, but it won't matter in January and February.

Fellow ValleyTalkers: It doesn't matter what players MSU has, they will never see their full potential with Barry Hinson running the show.

15-16, 8-10 in MVC. No post season.

Barry should be fired once again but who knows what the dumba**es running things in Springfield will do.

[Ricky Del Rio]

I don't think the title of this thread asked for spin and cheerleading. It just asked for a prediction on wins/losses and postseason.



Richards and Spencer are about the 4th or 5th best players at their position in the conference.



You're right about the Deven part. He is the one proven guy on the team that I trust when the ball is in his hands.



Shane is never going to be a scorer on this team. He just isn't quick enough to get his own shot and he struggles from three point range even when he gets a set shot and is open. Lamberth can score, but can't play defense, so Barry won't play him enough for him to score much. I like him, but he won't get any more time than he has the last two years.



Jehle is not going to be better as a redshirt freshman than Bilyeu was as a senior. Knapp could possible pick up Bilyeu's slack, but most of the MSU fans are betting that Knapp will back Richards up at the 5, not play the 4.

All of the stuff about the Bears being more athletic, bigger, etc. doesn't matter. You know why? BECAUSE BARRY IS STILL COACHING THE TEAM! MSU fans say the same things every year in the spring/summer. "I like the guys we have coming back", "We're really talented", "We're pretty athletic", "We can shoot". Yeah, a lot of those things are true, but it won't matter in January and February.

Fellow ValleyTalkers: It doesn't matter what players MSU has, they will never see their full potential with Barry Hinson running the show.

15-16, 8-10 in MVC. No post season.

Barry should be fired once again but who knows what the dumba**es running things in Springfield will do.

Trout, I must admit, you literary style is uplifting.

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

MSU's university president and athletic director couldn't make a decision on Barry this year, so they decided to keep him around with no extension. Presumably, they're hoping that he'll make their decision easy next March. My prediction is that he won't.

Barry's won 60% of his games at MSU (conference and non-con winning percentages are equal). Over a 29-game schedule, that equates to a 17-12 record (11-7 in conference). Call it a 4th-place conference finish, zero chance of an NCAA at-large berth, and a slim-to-decent chance at the NIT.

Barry's backers and bashers will have the same fight in 2008 that they had in 2007, and the wishy-washy non-decision-makers on campus will face the same dilemma they avoided this year.

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

Going off what other posters (who know little of UNI's recruits or talent) if I expect a winning season I am looking through my purple kitty glasses. Therefore, I will leave it at, I expect to finish in the top half of the MVC yet again. :panthers:

[creightonfever]

Ive learned one thing, being ranked #13 in the preseason poll means SQUAT. Anything can happen, bad or good.

Next year will be fun, like every year. I see us shakin out third. Bradley, SIU, and even IllSt are going to be pretty talented next year. Im interested to see Illst next year. Very talented recruits, with new coach. Our OOC will be shaky, but typical DA team we'll be tough come conference play.

1. SIU
2. BU
3. CU
4. ILL state
5. MSU
6. WSU
7. UNI
8. Drake
9. EU
10. Ind state

[TNMSUFAN]

Bilyeu averaged 9pts and 5rbs per game while shooting 45% from the floor so I don't really see that as extremely hard to make up. I really like Nate but with all the distractions in his personal life he just wasn't the same player his senior year. I don't see any problem with Jehle and Knapp being able to make up those numbers. Blake's points, and ability to stretch the defense, are going to be the biggest hurdles to overcome but I fully expect Spencer, Shane, and Dale to have much better seasons this year. I think we are going to be better than most think (especially those that are picking us 8th or 9th in the conference on the prediction thread) and we still return 6 of our top 9 players plus added 2 very good jucos and add Jehle to the mix who is a very well rounded player. Also, even with Barry as coach we have only fished lower than 5th 1 time in his 8 seasons as coach and that was also the only year we had a losing record in conference play. I expect us to be in the top half of the Valley like we usually are but it is too early to predict any records.

[BUBraves55]

21-10
14 seed

[TrueBlueJay]

Going off what other posters (who know little of UNI's recruits or talent) if I expect a winning season I am looking through my purple kitty glasses. Therefore, I will leave it at, I expect to finish in the top half of the MVC yet again. :panthers:


Are you willing to predict what Bcrawf did? I believe he is the one wearing the purple glasses.

24-7 (14-4)- At least one win in the Dance

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[Woodbox Gang]

SIU gets 23 regular season wins, makes it to the championship game of the MVC tournament. Randal Falker, Matt Shaw, and Bryan Mullins all foul out 10 minutes into the second half, and whatever team they are playing wins by 1 point on a last second free throw attempt after a lane violation against Tony Boyle.

[MoValley John]

SIU gets 23 regular season wins, makes it to the championship game of the MVC tournament. Randal Falker, Matt Shaw, and Bryan Mullins all foul out 10 minutes into the second half, and whatever team they are playing wins by 1 point on a last second free throw attempt after a lane violation against Tony Boyle.

That sounds like you are predicting SIU to win the regular season, beat Creighton twice and lose to them in the finals.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Woodbox Gang]

Creighton could go winless in the regular season and still find a way to win in Saint Louis. I found a dirty SUV from Nebraska at the MVC tournament this year so I drew the words "GO DAWGS!" onto one of the windows. After Creighton beat my Dawgs I went looking for that same SUV to erase my comments only to find it had already left. Apparently these fans didn't storm the court.

I don't know if SIU will win the regular season championship, although I feel it's safe to assume they have a good chance at it, but this is a team that has the potential to get back to the NCAA tournament for the 7th straight season. The MVC is always tough, but a 13-5 or 14-4 record will probably guarantee SIU is back in the big dance.

[Dawgbit]

I predict that SIU wins more games than they lose.

[tennis08tarheels]

I predict that SIU wins more games than they lose.

I predict that SIU wins every game in which they outscore their opponent.

[MSNSaluki]

I predict that SIU wins more games than they lose.

Wichita's signing 7-footers.
Bradley's getting a bunch of top JUCO players.
Missouri State has Hinson at the helm.
Altman came back to Creighton.
Illinois State has the best player in the conference.
UNI has a new arena.
Indiana State hired the X and O genius from Creighton.
Evansville stole Marty Simmons from SIU-E.
Everybody's playing Keno at Drake.

SIU doesn't have a chance this year.:noexpression:

[Dawgbit]

I also predict that if one does not get their weight fully transferred (versus the dreaded reverse pivot), during the backswing, you lose power, control, and accuracy in the golf swing. If you duckhook the ball a lot:bash: , this is your problem.