What Is The Difference Between .........................

[Ace Dad]

the Miss America Pageant, American Idol, College Application process, job interview, or NCAA selection results:

None.

No matter who is selected, the ones who are not selected will feel slighted and will point to the criteria to prove that other decisions should have made.

A panel of judges selects Miss California to be Miss America. The other 49 women think they should have won.

Three judges selectively search for talent for American Idol. You ought to see some of the venom spewed from the losers as they walk out of the auditorium.

How did you feel when you were rejected by your favorite college? Did you feel biased? They cannot let everyone in.

Have you ever had to hire one person from 12 who had experience, a masters degree, glowing recommendations, and "liked to work with people." I bet the other 11 thought you were biased.

Imagine being on the NCAA Selection Committee and trying to select the best 35 at large teams by using several criteria. If you use only numbers (quantitative) you may subjectively (qualitative) leave out a deserving team. If you select too many from the power conferences, the mid majors whine. If you select too many from the mid major, the power conference cry foul. If you only take the automatic qualifier from a conference, the nine other teams in that conference wonder why one of them were not good enough for an at large. Criteria is used to make the process fairer. Nothing makes the process fair because there will alway be more qualified entrants than spots.

So, I am LMAO as people die on their sword over a subjective process.

Life a'int fair and neither is basketball.

[redbirdtim]

I think one thing a lot of fans have a beef with is how the NCAA tries to keep "mid majors" out saying that the RPI wasn't high enough or they don't have enough "quality" wins against top RPI teams. Then, they slight a team with a top 25 RPI, something that has only been done once before in the history of using the RPI.

[WuGameClan]

AceDad its over, we understand your point yet the vast majority of us still think Missouri st. got screwed. i dont hink anything will change how they feel. its ok, the valley is having the best year ever. i am happy about that.

[Lurking Dog]

the valley is having the best year ever.

I'm sure you meant most bids ever.

In the small tournament days, this conference had some years when it might have been the best in college basketball.

[shocker3]

Lurking Dog- I agree with you. The Valley of Death in the sixties was much better than we are today.

In fact, the Valley in the early 1980s was also better. We had top 10 teams back them.

But we certainily are on our way back up.

It is certainly our best season since we became a so-called "mid-major".:valley:

[WuGameClan]

I'm sure you meant most bids ever.

In the small tournament days, this conference had some years when it might have been the best in college basketball.
ever = last ten years :doh: you know what i am saying.

[WSUfan]

the Miss America Pageant, American Idol, College Application process, job interview, or NCAA selection results:

None.

No matter who is selected, the ones who are not selected will feel slighted and will point to the criteria to prove that other decisions should have made.

A panel of judges selects Miss California to be Miss America. The other 49 women think they should have won.

Three judges selectively search for talent for American Idol. You ought to see some of the venom spewed from the losers as they walk out of the auditorium.

How did you feel when you were rejected by your favorite college? Did you feel biased? They cannot let everyone in.

Have you ever had to hire one person from 12 who had experience, a masters degree, glowing recommendations, and "liked to work with people." I bet the other 11 thought you were biased.

Imagine being on the NCAA Selection Committee and trying to select the best 35 at large teams by using several criteria. If you use only numbers (quantitative) you may subjectively (qualitative) leave out a deserving team. If you select too many from the power conferences, the mid majors whine. If you select too many from the mid major, the power conference cry foul. If you only take the automatic qualifier from a conference, the nine other teams in that conference wonder why one of them were not good enough for an at large. Criteria is used to make the process fairer. Nothing makes the process fair because there will alway be more qualified entrants than spots.

So, I am LMAO as people die on their sword over a subjective process.

Life a'int fair and neither is basketball.
Ace Dad: I would respect the NCAA more if they quit pretending that the selection process was "objective" and admit that selection committee need not follow the established guidelines. For example, why introduce a RPI rating system if it only matters when it agrees with predetermined opinions? The RPI is displayed prominently on the NCAA web page in order IMHO to give an impression of objectivity to the selection process.

[shockersup]

What is the difference between all those competitions and the sport of basketball? You have W-L's and RPI's to make a judgement it's not built on complete human decision. The fact that you use the RPI in years past to hold out teams (see WSU last year) or you use wins vs the top 50 RPI in some years to hold people out while letting others in (see Air Force = 0). It's a record year for the MVC and even though we have 4 in 5 were deserving and 2 left out had a better resume then Air Force. That's not bias it's looking at the RPI, SOS, wins vs top 50 RPI/top 100 RPI and bad losses and finish to the year. MSU vs. AF in this comparison is no contest. It's just the facts.

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