Where would you like to see the Tournament?

[Headless Bobcat]

According to the ESPN Shoot Around posted Sept 4th...

"Certainly nothing has been decided, but the Missouri Valley in considering moving its conference tourney from St. Louis after this season. The league is accepting requests for proposals from St. Louis, Kansas City, Omaha, Des Moines and Chicago."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2976102

Where would you like to see the conference tournament?

[Svoboda]

Chicago or remain in St. Louis. The other destinations are a bit too far of a drive for me.

[Headless Bobcat]

I live in Chicago and voted for Chicago. But I'm afraid that Chicago just isn't a good college sports town. Too many professional sports cluttering up the landscape.

I actually think St. Louis might be the best option.

But if we're talking about a town that the most people would want to visit...Chicago wins hands-down.

[Nyghtewynd]

I voted for St. Louis, but Chicago would be okay, especially with the Big 10 tourney leaving.

[C0|db|00ded]

I voted for KC because it's only natural that the tournament be closest to the largest fan-base. If the tournament was held in KC I can guarantee you that all single-school attendance records would be forever broken. There would be around 10,000 gold/yellow-cladden folk in attendance. That would leave about 10-12k for the rest of the Valley. Perfect!


T


...:cool:

[WSUbballer]

Chicago has the "happening" atmosphere and big city vibes. However, it's no where near the area that involves the Valley.

A rotation between KC and St. Louis makes the most sense and is the most fair.

[blueness]

St. Louis or Chicago

St. Louis for the tradition.

Chicago...because it's Chicago. (Also the area thing wouldn't matter too much, as Chicago is one of the easiest cities to get to by plane, especially from various Valley cities).

And it'll keep St. Louis on their toes that this tournament isn't a given for them.

[SycamoreFanatic]

Leave it in St. Louie Louie...........unless another city wants to BUY IT and I mean REALLY REALLY BUY IT!


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[VromanFan]

I'm here in Chicago, it would be fun. You can't beat the town. There are TONS of stuff to do. And there's a lot more around the area near the United Center than there were 10-15 years ago.

That being said I've never been a fan of the UC. Its capacity is about the same as the Kiel but the UC has a much more cavernous feel. I never felt close to a basketball game sitting in the upper deck there.

St. Louis has served the Valley very well. Nothing is really broke about the situation. So I guess its just my personal selfish preference saying I'd rather have it in Chicago or KC...at least in some kind of rotation with STL.

I've been down there something like 8 of the last 10 tournaments and I'm bored with St. Louis. I'm not a huge gambler and otherwise I don't think there's a ton of other fun stuff to do there. The downtown area is pretty dead. Can't say the same for Chicago or KC (I think)
:braves:.

[dogdays]

Dont think its goin anywhere boys.

[WSUbballer]

Dont think its goin anywhere boys.

I don't think that's what the question's asking.. :original:

[Aegyptus]

Is this just the primary? Are we going to have a general election with just the top 2 candidates, because I would be interested to see where all the people that voted for Chicago would prefer if it was limited to only StL and KC. My guess is that they would prefer StL.

Wonder why there are not more votes for KC compared to the eastern choices of StL and Chicago. With all the "fans" out in Wichita, these numbers must be rigged!!!

[VromanFan]

Is this just the primary? Are we going to have a general election with just the top 2 candidates, because I would be interested to see where all the people that voted for Chicago would prefer if it was limited to only StL and KC. My guess is that they would prefer StL.

Wonder why there are not more votes for KC compared to the eastern choices of StL and Chicago. With all the "fans" out in Wichita, these numbers must be rigged!!!

If this vote is actually binding I'd watch out for Chicago fellas. We have a bit of a history in um, unique voting practices.

Seriously though I think Chicago would be great but I'd take KC over STL...at least for a year to see how it goes. STL is boring and I'm ready for a change. I'm ready to get a really good steak and some BBQ during the Valley tourney. Downtown St. Louis is a mourge.

[txsaluki05]

Keep it in St. Louis! If anything, move it to a bigger venue to sell more tickets, although I'm not sure if there is one.

[iSASO]

Chicago or remain in St. Louis. The other destinations are a bit too far of a drive for me.

I'm glad most people don't think this way. Otherwise, we'd be back to having it on campus sites and rented facilities for those who don't have the resources to have their own facility.

:naughty:

[RoyalShock]

I wonder if there is a recruiting angle to this.

I'm sure St. Louis-area players are more aware of the Valley due to the tournament. And at least SIU (I think) has had some success recruiting those players.

It would be nice to give KC-area players that same exposure to MVC basketball.

I think a 2-year rotation (2 in KC, 2 in STL) would be nice.

[Shox21]

I think a 2-year rotation (2 in KC, 2 in STL) would be nice.


Actually Royal, that's not a bad plan. And I'm not saying that just because you are a Shocker. Why not have it a little more fair as to distance from the various schools. Sure, SIU wants it to remain in their backyard. I would too.

But, why not the two-year rotation, at least as a trial? For two years, some of the other schools can make that 6-7 hour drive. Even in KC, the Shoxs still have further to go that SIU does when it is in St. Louis. And KC benefits the Jays as well.

[WSUbballer]

Wonder why there are not more votes for KC compared to the eastern choices of StL and Chicago. With all the "fans" out in Wichita, these numbers must be rigged!!!

Why single out Wichita?

I'm sure Omaha and Des Moines fans have voted too..

[ISUBob]

I like the city of St. Louis. It has nothing to do with a $89.00 round trip fare from Dallas. :naughty:

[Clawinball]

I like St. Louis, but KC is closer! Really does'nt make a big deal to me. Go Bears! :bears::valley:

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

If this vote is actually binding I'd watch out for Chicago fellas. We have a bit of a history in um, unique voting practices.


When should a civic-minded Chicagoan vote?

1) Early
2) Often
3) After death
4) Depends on how many votes Mayor Daley needs
5) All of the above

:innocent:

I think that the "cavernous" impression of the UC comes from the fact that the UC has a level of club seating between its lower and upper bowls -- the Kiel doesn't have that. I'm guessing that the average upper-deck seat in the UC is 30-40 feet higher than the equivalent upper-deck seat in the Kiel.

In my one trip to the UC, I thought the place was more "cadaverous" than "cavernous"... although the fact that I was there for a Blackhawks game may have had something to do with that impression. :lol:

[Aegyptus]

Is Chicago thinking of building a new arena any time soon? There is really nothing I like about the United Center. I don't like the location, I don't like the seating...I have only been there a couple of times, but it has not impressed me whatsoever.

I know the building is only 15 years old, but it is time to start thinking about a new one. And I would like to see it located downtown somehow. I know real estate is very expensive downtown, but when you go to Chicago, I don't go for the "near west side." I go for the lake and river front and the tall buildings and everything else that happens downtown. I understand the Cub's location in Wrigleyville because that has become iconic, but the Sox Stadium (whatever it is called now) and the UC are just out of the way. If they could build something on the lakefront like Solider Field, that would be ideal.

Has anyone heard anything about replacing the United Center? If Chicago had a brand new downtown arena it would really help their chances with the Valley (of course, I guess it would help with the Big 10 too).

[VromanFan]

Is Chicago thinking of building a new arena any time soon? There is really nothing I like about the United Center. I don't like the location, I don't like the seating...I have only been there a couple of times, but it has not impressed me whatsoever.

I know the building is only 15 years old, but it is time to start thinking about a new one. And I would like to see it located downtown somehow. I know real estate is very expensive downtown, but when you go to Chicago, I don't go for the "near west side." I go for the lake and river front and the tall buildings and everything else that happens downtown. I understand the Cub's location in Wrigleyville because that has become iconic, but the Sox Stadium (whatever it is called now) and the UC are just out of the way. If they could build something on the lakefront like Solider Field, that would be ideal.

Has anyone heard anything about replacing the United Center? If Chicago had a brand new downtown arena it would really help their chances with the Valley (of course, I guess it would help with the Big 10 too).

No. There has been no talk of replacing the UC. The UC is co-owned by the ownership of the Bulls and Blackhawks. The arena is still profitable (at least for the Bulls) and I'm not sure that its out of date in any way...at least to the areas that really matter sadly...producing revenue through suites and stuff.

Realistically I can't see how a major stadium can be placed any closer to the loop. You mentioned a big factor which is the price of real estate. Another factor is the need for parking. The UC is about 1.5 miles away from the downtown district, Sox and Cubs park are each four miles or so away. Its about as close as they can get practically. At least for the near future major new stadiums are going to require land for parking. There's just none available as you get within a mile or so of the Loop.

Soldier Field is a unique situation in that it has been in the same location for something like 80 years. It is also owned by the Chicago Park District which partly explains its Lakefront location. A private owner cannot build along the Lake, as essentially, with very limited exception, there is no privately owned land or privately built structures along the Chicago lakefront per city law.

I guess Sox park is out of the way for some people. But the franchise has been in the same neighborhood and the same location for over 100 years. So taking them out of Bridgeport would certainly make it "out of the way" for many of their traditional fanbase. It was a discussion held at length in the mid-1980s when new stadium deals were being discussed. Essentially the city and state government conditioned the granting of tax dollars to the building of the new park to the White Sox staying in the city (out of the suburbs). At the time staying "in the city" meant staying in Bridgeport, there was no meaningful talk of a downtown stadium. Hindsight being what it is I bet Sox leadership wished they would have looked at the south and west loop areas which significantly developed in the following two decades.

I dislike the UC as well. I feel a mile away from the court when I'm there. But distance wise you're pretty darn close to downtown man. Hop a cab out in the West Loop and its a quick ride to Michigan Ave. or whereever. There's also way more bars and restaurants in the W. Loop than there were just 5-10 years ago.

[goaces]

Like a previous post, I'd keep it in St. Louis unless there are huge $$$$ waiting elsewhere.

[wushockduke]

I'm surprised Omaha is not getting more votes.

[shockball]

I voted for Des Moines. There would be no lines for any of the restaurants or entertainment venues. Hotels are inexpensive. You can probably get a good deal on Amana appliances on your way up.

[Ricky Del Rio]

Chicago makes a lot of sense. I wonder, why no one thought of it before?

[tgcshock]

I'm surprised Omaha is not getting more votes.

I would guess that the reason for that is that many of the people voting have actually seen Omaha. :grin:

[MoValley John]

I would guess that the reason for that is that many of the people voting have actually seen Omaha. :grin:

That's also exactly why Wichita isn't even in the discussion.

And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[tgcshock]

That's also exactly why Wichita isn't even in the discussion.

And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well you have to admit that if Wichita had been on that poll from the beginning, it would have garnered a lot more support from Shocker fans than Omaha is getting from Creighton fans (or anyone else!).

[MoValley John]

Well you have to admit that if Wichita had been on that poll from the beginning, it would have garnered a lot more support from Shocker fans than Omaha is getting from Creighton fans (or anyone else!).

Why would Wichita receive more votes? Is it because Shocker fans don't like to road trip? A few hundred miles is too far to journey to see a different city, mingle with other travelers, kick up your heels and have fun? Are you guys that lame that you want to stay home? The Creighton fans I know love the aspect of an out of town weekend party, they are just sick of St. Louis. Traveling is all part of the fun! Sure, by staying in Wichita, you would get a home court advantage, but you loose so much in terms of a huge party. I don't think many people in Omaha want to stay home, and I don't think many Wichitans want to either, they just want an even footing on how far they have to travel and KC fits that bill.

[shockball]

Shocker fans travel well. There are several hundred that will make mid week road trips to Springfield and Omaha. A few thousand make road trips to KC and St. Louis.

MVJ has a little dingy.

[MoValley John]

Shocker fans travel well. There are several hundred that will make mid week road trips to Springfield and Omaha. A few thousand make road trips to KC and St. Louis.

MVJ has a little dingy.

This wasn't a slam at Wichita, in fact, I said Wichitans would probably agree that a weekend roadtrip for the tournament would be more fun, so why would you vote for your home city?

As for my dingy, I told your wife to keep it a secret.:naughty:

[jaypharmalum]

Well you have to admit that if Wichita had been on that poll from the beginning, it would have garnered a lot more support from Shocker fans than Omaha is getting from Creighton fans (or anyone else!).


I voted for KC for a couple of reasons:

1) proximity to Omaha
2) we own SIU on neutral courts, but can't beat them in Omaha

Only small-mindedness would allow for one to think the MVC would be best served by hosting the tourney at a conference school. Plus, Koch is just a barn compared to a facility required for an elite event such as this.

[shockball]

Wichita's new downtown arena could be rented, same as Omaha's, to get the attendance up if attendance was all that mattered. Some people recognize that there are inherent qualities in special purpose arenas.

"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this."

CU rents the Qwest for $25,000 per game plus a percentage of sales for attendance in excess of 11,000. Does anyone know if there are multiple games is the rent $25,000 per game or per day? Does the percentage of gross receipts apply on all sales over 11,000 per day or per game?

If this is the final year of the original 5 year term, is CU going to renew? What are the escalator clauses in the options? Would the MVC be required to start games at midnight to accomodate the previously scheduled 4-H events? Who pays to clean the floor? Thanks.

I prefer the neutral site road trip for the tournament too.

[squirrel]

I'm not opposed to Kansas City, but my reasons are selfish: I've never been there, and I want to check out the blues and bbq scene and several sites. Plus a train would be really easy and cheap for me to take there.

[MoValley John]

Wichita's new downtown arena could be rented, same as Omaha's, to get the attendance up if attendance was all that mattered. Some people recognize that there are inherent qualities in special purpose arenas.

"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this."

CU rents the Qwest for $25,000 per game plus a percentage of sales for attendance in excess of 11,000. Does anyone know if there are multiple games is the rent $25,000 per game or per day? Does the percentage of gross receipts apply on all sales over 11,000 per day or per game?

If this is the final year of the original 5 year term, is CU going to renew? What are the escalator clauses in the options? Would the MVC be required to start games at midnight to accomodate the previously scheduled 4-H events? Who pays to clean the floor? Thanks.

I prefer the neutral site road trip for the tournament too.

Glad to see that your with me on road trips and neutral site tourneys. I stress neutral site because Des Moines, Omaha and Wichita should not be considered, just my $.02.

As far as your arena talk, you kind of lost me. Koch would not be large enough if the tourney was in Wichita and the new arena is not built. Without a site already operating, it is very hard to bid such an event. The operators of the Qwest Center found out that even with the building going up, it was tough to book anything.

As for your Creighton numbers, you also need to look deeper. Creighton was offered the 10,000 seat Civic for a mere $1. It could have been theirs, nobody elses. It was too small, it needed- and still needs millions in repairs and upkeep. The Qwest was perfect.

Creighton could have built their own facility, but even a basketball only facility with the seating and the ammenities that the Qwest already had, would cost $80-$100 million. Using the low number of $80 million to build, and an inflated rent of $40,000/game, you are looking at a break even of 200 games. That comes to 12 years at 17 games a season. At 80 mil and the current 25,000 per game, its 320 games or 18 years; you broke even at just the point where you need to sink another $50 mil into updates! In the mean time, you don't sweep the floor, you don't change a light bulb, fix a drain, unclog a toilet- you spend zero on maintenance and upkeep. If you look at Koch, you will find maintenance costs incurred every single day, not just on gameday.

So, I don't know which is better, rented or owned, but from a simple financial situation, it's better to rent. From the point of pride in ownership and not having to schedule around other activities, owning is better. In the end, who really, I mean really cares?

By the way, 4-H is not active in Douglas County. All residents who participate in 4-H do it with the Sarpy County 4-H. And since the Bluejays don't play at the Sarpy County Fairgrounds, there are no 4-H events to schedule around. Moreover, 4-H activities are in August and September, not during basketball season. My FFA tip of the day.

[jaypharmalum]

Wichita's new downtown arena could be rented, same as Omaha's, to get the attendance up if attendance was all that mattered. Some people recognize that there are inherent qualities in special purpose arenas.

"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this."

CU rents the Qwest for $25,000 per game plus a percentage of sales for attendance in excess of 11,000. Does anyone know if there are multiple games is the rent $25,000 per game or per day? Does the percentage of gross receipts apply on all sales over 11,000 per day or per game?

If this is the final year of the original 5 year term, is CU going to renew? What are the escalator clauses in the options? Would the MVC be required to start games at midnight to accomodate the previously scheduled 4-H events? Who pays to clean the floor? Thanks.

I prefer the neutral site road trip for the tournament too.


Please note, attendance is what matters for the MVC tourney. The number of seats is probably #1 on the list of attributes a city must offer, if not #1a.

Also, I have wondered before about your Rasmussen quote. Please provide a link to the actual quote. I find it impossible that any ahtletic director would prefer a 10k seat arena that might be a little louder versus having 17k seats to sell. I think every coach and AD in the Valley would take the Qwest over any other facility in the MVC without a second thought.

[SubGod22]

And I think you're wrong

[shockball]

Please note, attendance is what matters for the MVC tourney. The number of seats is probably #1 on the list of attributes a city must offer, if not #1a.

Also, I have wondered before about your Rasmussen quote. Please provide a link to the actual quote. I find it impossible that any ahtletic director would prefer a 10k seat arena that might be a little louder versus having 17k seats to sell. I think every coach and AD in the Valley would take the Qwest over any other facility in the MVC without a second thought.


JayFarm

The Rasmussen quote was from an article Valley of Decibels. It was it's own separate topic on Valleytalk and comprised several pages earlier this year. I could believe Rasmussen was thinking it, but I couldn't believe he said it.

If admission to 1 is $10 and admission to 1a is $20, and 1a sells 75% as many tickets as 1,....
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MVJ

I visit 3 or 4 MVC cities for Shocker games every year. Then it's on to STL. It is great. Let me know if you need a ticket to a game at Koch Arena. It's the real thing.

You could put a discount rate, renewal options, and a reversion for the asset value when you compare A & B. You could add in the percentage rents in your analogy. No advertising, concessions, parking, etc. You need to dig a little deeper.

I don't think Wichita or Omaha is the place to have the MVC tourney.

[DUBulldog]

I visit 3 or 4 MVC cities for Shocker games every year.

Have you ever left the West End Lounge during your Des Moines visits? :lol:

[MoValley John]

JayFarm

The Rasmussen quote was from an article Valley of Decibels. It was it's own separate topic on Valleytalk and comprised several pages earlier this year. I could believe Rasmussen was thinking it, but I couldn't believe he said it.

If admission to 1 is $10 and admission to 1a is $20, and 1a sells 75% as many tickets as 1,....
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MVJ

I visit 3 or 4 MVC cities for Shocker games every year. Then it's on to STL. It is great. Let me know if you need a ticket to a game at Koch Arena. It's the real thing.

You could put a discount rate, renewal options, and a reversion for the asset value when you compare A & B. You could add in the percatage rents in your analogy. No advertising, concessions, parking, etc. You need to dig a little deeper.

I don't think Wichita or Omaha is the place to have the MVC tourney.



Nobody has dug deep enough, you me or anyone. I can guarantee you that the Jesuits in charge have broken this down pretty deep and made a decision based on that. My point is nobody on this board has all of the information needed to judge which option is better.

I would ad that Creighton does get advertising revenue from the Qwest. The ribbon boards and dasher boards are Creighton ads. I know, I tried to steer a clients money to the buy.

Qwest Center has some permanent sign placement for advertising revenue, Budweiser, Mutual of Omaha to name a couple; they also own some of the ribbon board ads, but the Werner, TnT and others appearing on the dashers and ribbons during games are Creighton's. It is one of the benefits of ribbon boards, the arena can sell ads, and also keep an advertising revenue stream open for it's tennants.

My point is, you and I will never have enough information to really know which option is the best route.

[shockball]

Have you ever left the West End Lounge during your Des Moines visits? :lol:

The West End is my favorite stop. Last year I should have stayed there instead of going to the game.

[MoValley John]

I flippin' got shot at the West End! Dangerous part of town.

Oh wait, I got a shot at the West End. Nevermind.

[cpacmel]

Also, I have wondered before about your Rasmussen quote. Please provide a link to the actual quote. I find it impossible that any ahtletic director would prefer a 10k seat arena that might be a little louder versus having 17k seats to sell. I think every coach and AD in the Valley would take the Qwest over any other facility in the MVC without a second thought.

Here is the link to the thread:

http://www.valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=3869&page=2

And here is the quote as it appears in that thread;


For all its grandeur, the Qwest Center is just one of several tough places to play in the Valley. Southern Illinois is impossible to beat at home, even though SIU Arena is in dire need of updating. WSU's Koch Arena, renovated in 2003, is regarded as the Valley's loudest venue.

"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this."

[MoValley John]

Here is the link to the thread:

http://www.valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=3869&page=2

And here is the quote as it appears in that thread;

So he's really not saying he would trade venues, just that there are many qualities to many arenas that shouldn't be discounted. He would desire Koch's noise over the Qwest. Actually, that's a quite reasonable comment,taken out of context by Shocker fans to make it sound as if he would trade venues, which he wouldn't.

[shockball]

MVJ your little dingy is weighing heavily on your mind. The quote is inside the quotation marks.

For all its grandeur, the Qwest Center is just one of several tough places to play in the Valley. Southern Illinois is impossible to beat at home, even though SIU Arena is in dire need of updating. WSU's Koch Arena, renovated in 2003, is regarded as the Valley's loudest venue.

"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this."

[shockball]

Nobody has dug deep enough, you me or anyone. I can guarantee you that the Jesuits in charge have broken this down pretty deep and made a decision based on that. My point is nobody on this board has all of the information needed to judge which option is better.



How can you do this? "I can guarantee you that the Jesuits in charge have broken this down pretty deep and made a decision based on that." (Note the quotation marks).

[MoValley John]

How can you do this? "I can guarantee you that the Jesuits in charge have broken this down pretty deep and made a decision based on that." (Note the quotation marks).

You are kidding, aren't you?

Did you study all of the numbers when you bought your house? I did and I would hope you studied the figures before you bought yours. Nobody knows all those details but the buyers, sellers and mortgage brokers. I have had people tell me both that I got a great deal and a few others that said I got screwed. None of them know all the details but my wife and I, so how can anyone else form any opinion?

The same goes with this debate, but knowing a few Jesuits and knowing their tendancies, they would have studied all of the issues. They know, you and I don't. Remember, they could have had the Civic for a buck, it holds the same as the Roundhouse, they turned it down.

[shockball]

You compare the Qwest lease transaction to you buying a house? One transaction is easy for a Jesuit to understand. The other is not. What huge assumptions you make and then guarantee.

Time will tell whether it is a house of cards. Aren't the expenses for CU's basketball program more than $3,000,000?


My four years of a Jesuit education taught me that they can let ego's and emotions get in their way.

[MoValley John]

You compare the Qwest lease transaction to you buying a house? One transaction is easy for a Jesuit to understand. The other is not. What huge assumptions you make and then guarantee.

Time will tell whether it is a house of cards. Aren't the expenses for CU's basketball program more than $3,000,000?


My four years of a Jesuit education taught me that they can let ego's and emotions get in their way.

I would agree with the ego thing, but I think they are doing the same thing with regards to a possible baseball stadium that they did with the Qwest. They are considering several options, including building their own, but are waiting to see what happens downtown and will wait to make that decision until they have all of the facts. As they have said, they are in no hurry. What is happening with a possible baseball stadium mirrors their decisions regarding the Qwest Center. They probably have a better handle on everything than you or I.

Than again, if renting became a bad deal, they would build, they do have the money.

[WSUbballer]

I hate to carry this thread more off-topic than it already is, but if Creighton left the Quest Center, what is their anchor tenant? Nebraska-Omaha hockey? What do they average a night for those games? Are there any other sports/events that use the Quest Center for weeks/months at a time?

[MoValley John]

I hate to carry this thread more off-topic than it already is, but if Creighton left the Quest Center, what is their anchor tenant? Nebraska-Omaha hockey? What do they average a night for those games? Are there any other sports/events that use the Quest Center for weeks/months at a time?

Nothing. It's CU basketball and UNO hockey. It books most of the winter. UNO only draws about 7-8,000- I do occasionally go. However, from people I've spoken to, the numbers will be up this year. Creighton sells 15,000 + seats a game, I go 3-4 times per year. Indoor football is played at the Civic- I never go. Most arenas are empty in the summer, but I guess Omaha could try to land a WNBA team- I wouldn't go.

They do fill tons of dates with concerts and other events, so the Qwest has been a huge success.

[jaypharmalum]

JayFarm

The Rasmussen quote was from an article Valley of Decibels. It was it's own separate topic on Valleytalk and comprised several pages earlier this year. I could believe Rasmussen was thinking it, but I couldn't believe he said it.



Shockdull, the link to the article is no longer valid, but again I would like to see where Bruce made the comment. The quote says,
"Every facility has its pluses and minuses," Rasmussen said. "I would take the noise and atmosphere of Wichita State over this." . In all seriousness, what is the "this" that Bruce is referring to? It can't be the Qwest center - hell the entire article was essentially paying homage to Omaha and the Qwest Center as I recall. We had the noise and atmosphere of Koch at our own dump (the Civic Auditorium) and left it for something significantly better.

[Cdizzle]

We had the noise and atmosphere of Koch at our own dump (the Civic Auditorium) and left it for something significantly better.


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