Toure Murry 6'3" G 2008 Newest Shocker Commit

[TNMSUFAN]

Didn't notice this posted anywhere but I read on Rivals where Murray committed on Monday during an in-home visit by the Shocker Coaches. Murray is a 6'3" 160lb combo guard from Klein Forest High School in Houston, TX. Mentioned he liked the Shockers offense, their fan base, and how much he likes the coaches.

Here is a link for anyone with Rivals subscription
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=910&CID=712835

[iSASO]

He has grown about 4 inches in the last 6 months or so and it is hoped that he will maintain that pace for another few months.

His high school has produced more than its share of D1 talent recently, which has held down his stat sheet.

[Majik45]

I think this is the same High School that incoming BU Freshman Anthony Thompson came from. I believe I read that he choose WSU over Bradley amoung others.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Somebody's been lying to this kid....

“What put them over the top was that they have a great fan base, good academics and I felt the coaching staff showed me love,” Murray said. “I respected them and trusted them. They have a great winning tradition. They go to the tournament almost every year and it’s a great conference.”

Ummmm.....since WSU has only made the NCAA tourney one time in this kids entire life,

1. Either someone flat out lied to the kid :doh:

- or -

2. When he used the word "tournament", he was referencing the Not Invited Tournament (NIT).

Either way, its pretty funny. :grin::clap::banana:

[jaypharmalum]

He has grown about 4 inches in the last 6 months or so and it is hoped that he will maintain that pace for another few months.

His high school has produced more than its share of D1 talent recently, which has held down his stat sheet.


I would bet that he's 7'3" by the time he enters college this time next year. What a weapon a seven foot point guard will be for the Shox.

BTW, how many scholarship players does WSU have right now?

[SubGod22]

All 13 are being used for this year. 3 will be available for '08 with the losses of Cooz, Braeuer and Thomasson.

[outpost]

.......When he used the word "tournament", he was indicating that the Shockers make the most of their opportunities.

Fixed.....with enthusiasm.

BTW - Thanks to one of our kind moderators for posting this news.

[txsaluki05]

Congrats on the pickup shockers, even tho he sounds a little bit confused on the history ;)

6'3", 160? Get that kid some food!!

[WSUfan]

I didn't post anything about this verbal because of the reactions (and snide remarks) on, for example, SalukiTalk:
Bigdawg68: Thought this was too good to pass up. WSU got a 2008 verbal Monday night. 6-3 shooting Guard Toure Murray out of Texas committed to the Shockers over Bradley, Fresno State and SMU.
The interesting part was that he listed as one of his reasons for going there was great academics. Then he was quoted as saying
“They have a great winning tradition. They go to the tournament almost every year . . . .”
Either someone as WSU is feeding him a line of huey and he isn't smart enough to figure it out; or he just isn't that smart. One year out of 20 they have made it to the tourney? He might want to look at that again. LOL.
I am sure WSU did not mislead him. What they probably told him was we go to the tourney every year. They just forgot to mention it was the MVC tourney.
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SalukiRD: Sounds like a bright kid... not.
If he's that ignorant he probably won't qualify academically anyway.

I am not certain what Toure Murry meant by his comments but SIU fans and DoubleJayAlum decided to make fun of this recruit and of WSU. Very classy of them; they are so smart they could coach CU or SIU by themselves. Of course, maybe they didn't understand Toure's meaning? Impossible, geniuses like DoubleJayAlum, SalukiRD and Bigdawg68 could not be wrong. Of course, I can make several guesses about the meaning of Toure's comments.
1. Gregg Marshall has taken teams to seven NCAA tourney appearances in the last nine years. That's a pretty good record and a player might wish to play for such a coach. If "they" means Gregg Marshall and his coaching staffs, then his statement is true.
2. WSU has been in postseason play (NIT or NCAA) for four of the last five years.
3. He might be predicting the future. As Xelpho said on SalukiTalk: Absolutely hilarious! Let's just hope this kid isn't Nostradomus though.

[jaypharmalum]

1. Gregg Marshall has taken teams to seven NCAA tourney appearances in the last nine years. That's a pretty good record and a player might wish to play for such a coach. If "they" means Gregg Marshall and his coaching staffs, then his statement is true.


So the kid thinks he committed to Winthrop then? I guess that does make more sense.

I remember sitting at the bar watching Withrop on one of the big screens as they were playing at the same time Creighton was on in the NCAA tournament last year. Winthrop has a nice program - hopefully Marshall can get the Shox playing at Winthrop's level and they can make the NCAA tournament someday.

[outpost]

As Xelpho said on SalukiTalk: Absolutely hilarious! Let's just hope this kid isn't Nostradomus though.

I'd like to question Xelpho (if he's man enough to come over to VT) why he hopes this kid isn't a good predictor of the future....

Is it because he just couldn't live with his own jealousy (assuming that Toure's "prediction" were to come true)?

Is it because he couldn't stand to see another conference member experience success (as WSU and Bradley both did in '05-'06) and help bring this conference the visibility it has today?

Is it because he couldn't stand one or two Shocker fans going over the top out here on VT?

Does he fear a repeat of what happened in the first 33% of the '06-'07 season (when a few of us Shocker fans got a little full of ourselves to varying degrees)?

Xelpho....come out and explain this to us.....if you're man enough.

[DoubleJayAlum]

I am not certain what Toure Murry meant by his comments but SIU fans and DoubleJayAlum decided to make fun of this recruit and of WSU. Very classy of them; they are so smart they could coach CU or SIU by themselves. Of course, maybe they didn't understand Toure's meaning? Impossible, geniuses like DoubleJayAlum, SalukiRD and Bigdawg68 could not be wrong.
Reread my post. I never made fun of the kid at all. In fact, I actually feel a little bit sorry for him because what he believes to be true about WSU simply isn't. Its no fun to be fooled.

2. WSU has been in postseason play (NIT or NCAA) for four of the last five years.

Once again, reread my post. I suggested that perhaps the NIT was what the recruit meant when he used the word "tournament." I guess its also possible that bigdawg68 was correct and the recruit meant the MVC tourney, which, by the way, every team gets to participate in nowadays.

Spin it any way you want, but Murry's statement is just plain funny to everyone (well, except for WSU fans).

[outpost]

Maybe you were the one who was fooled, DJA.

I'm not trying to post smack, because I know you weren't there.......and I know that I wasn't there.

You may spin your own interpretation and call this funny, or hilarious, or whatever. I can laugh along with you for that, knowing that you're just looking for an opportunity to have some fun at the expense of our program and VT / WSU fans.

But if his decision to commit was as much (or more) due to the coaching staff than the school itself, then he heard the truth. Coach Marshall and his staff have a good record of getting teams to the tourney.

It's all how you choose to interpret his comments. Fair enough?

[Divergence]

Somebody's been lying to this kid....


Maybe the kids a Baseball Fan... Or a G. Marshall fan.

[DUBulldog]

Xelpho....come out and explain this to us.....if you're man enough.

How 'bout you go over to Salukitalk and call him out there.......if you're man enough. :innocent:

You're probably wasting your breath calling out a poster from another board on this one.....unlikely he'll ever see it.

[SiuCubFan8]

I'd like to question Xelpho (if he's man enough to come over to VT)

What are you going to do beat him up over the computer?

It was a bunch of posters on a message board poking fun at a conference rival. What is the problem with that? The statement he said was funny considering the facts. Chill out.

[outpost]

It was a bunch of posters on a message board poking fun at a conference rival.

Fair enough, I like the way you put it here.....and I am chilled out, thank you.

[WSUfan]

Winthrop has a nice program - hopefully Marshall can get the Shox playing at Winthrop's level and they can make the NCAA tournament someday.

Your comment reminded me that Creighton has never in its history won two games in a row in the NCAA tourney while WSU has done this three times. Thanks for the memories.

[C0|db|00ded]

The young man was obviously referencing the NCAA appearances in regards to coach Marshall who, by the way, has a better NCAA tournament appearance record over the last 9 years than any current coach in the MVC. Adding the fact that coach Marshall is now in charge of a program which is by all intents and purposes the "Class of its Conference" by way of tradition, fanbase, money, and overall community support; and realizing that his impressive record was achieved while heading up a program that was more like the "Drake" of its conference, backs up this young man's enthusiasm.

On a side note: it appears that the behavior displayed in this thread by representatives of our "little brother" up north and a few from our "illegitimate step-cousin" in Carbondale, that a vacuum, caused by my diminished participation is attempting to be filled. Let me assure those fine folks that the "machine" can be started back up at any moment giving them much more to worry about than the semantics of a new Shocker signee. :original:

It's a great day to be a Shocker!


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[WSUbballer]

hopefully Marshall can get the Shox playing at Winthrop's level and they can make the NCAA tournament someday.

"someday"? Someday as in 2006? The same year the mighty Bluejays failed to make it?

Get back to me when the Bluejays win a game in the tournament someday.

[jaypharmalum]

"someday"? Someday as in 2006? The same year the mighty Bluejays failed to make it?

Get back to me when the Bluejays win a game in the tournament someday.

No question, your past 20 years have been very impressive... and your future is equally as bright. Have a nice time on Thursday night in St. Loo.

[Chairman of the Boards]

No question, your past 20 years have been very impressive... and your future is equally as bright. Have a nice time on Thursday night in St. Loo.

:no: :shutup:

[WSUbballer]

No question, your past 20 years have been very impressive... and your future is equally as bright. Have a nice time on Thursday night in St. Loo.

Wow. That line of smack may leave me rattled for months, maybe years.

:sleeping:

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[MikeKennedyRulz]

Anyway you slice it, WSU still has as many wins in the NCAA tourney as BJU in the last decade plus some in fewer appearances. I guess you could say WSU is just more efficient. :clap::clap::grin::grin:

[jaypharmalum]

Anyway you slice it, WSU still has as many wins in the NCAA tourney as BJU in the last decade plus some in fewer appearances. I guess you could say WSU is just more efficient. :clap::clap::grin::grin:

MKR, Creighton owns wins over Louisville and Florida in the NCAA tournament in the last decade... losses to Maryland, Illinois, Auburn, Iowa, Central Michigan, West Virginia, and Nevada (maybe forgot someone).

I won't argue with WSU's one miracuolous run of efficiency, but long term consistency is heavily slanted one direction.

[MikeKennedyRulz]

MKR, Creighton owns wins over Louisville and Florida in the NCAA tournament in the last decade... losses to Maryland, Illinois, Auburn, Iowa, Central Michigan, West Virginia, and Nevada (maybe forgot someone).

I won't argue with WSU's one miracuolous run of efficiency, but long term consistency is heavily slanted one direction.

Consistently losing and underperforming on the big stage? Oh, ok, well then you are right. My bad.

[jaypharmalum]

Consistently losing and underperforming on the big stage? Oh, ok, well then you are right. My bad.


I think most MVC fans would take Creighton's underperforming on the big stage if they could reverse roles. It's much better than being on no stage at all.

I suspect if we did a "Team A vs Team B" like they do before selection Sunday, and asked basketball fans which has the better program, Creighton would be chosen over WSU every single time.

[WSUbballer]

I think most MVC fans would take Creighton's underperforming on the big stage if they could reverse roles. It's much better than being on no stage at all.

I suspect if we did a "Team A vs Team B" like they do before selection Sunday, and asked basketball fans which has the better program, Creighton would be chosen over WSU every single time.

The Buffalo Bills of the early 1990's weren't known for their good football teams led by Kelly and Thomas. They were known as the losers who couldn't get the job done.

That's kinda the same thing I think about here.

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[Aargh]

It's obvious Murry was either misinformed or is uninformed. We all know that journalists always get their quotes exactly right and never report sound bites out of context.

Give the kid a break. We have no idea what he actually said or the context in which he said it.

[DoubleJayAlum]

We all know that journalists always get their quotes exactly right and never report sound bites out of context.

A WSU kid makes a dumb quote and its the media's fault. :no: If a kid from Creighton, SIU, MSU, or Bradley makes a similar quote the source is treated as gospel by WSU fans. If there are positive quotes about WSU made by anybody, those quotes are always assumed to be accurate and in proper context by WSU posters. Don't you and other WSU posters have quotes appearing in your signatures? How can we be sure those people weren't misquoted or their statements taken out of context?

According to Coldblooded, WSU is the media darling of the MVC. If that's the case, why would any media source publish any quote that might make WSU appear in a bad light? :innocent:

[jaypharmalum]

The Buffalo Bills of the early 1990's weren't known for their good football teams led by Kelly and Thomas. They were known as the losers who couldn't get the job done.

That's kinda the same thing I think about here.



This actually sounds more like Kansas basketball over the past 20 years if we want to compare a Super Bowl caliber team to a college basketball team of a similar level.

[MoValley John]

The Buffalo Bills of the early 1990's weren't known for their good football teams led by Kelly and Thomas. They were known as the losers who couldn't get the job done.


Strong words, Tarkenton.

[Saluki762]

I really get a kick out of the arguing back and forth between CU and WSU fans. Two teams who have combined for less NCAA tournament wins over the last 10 years than Miami-Ohio and Kent State. You guys are powerhouses for sure.

[WSUbballer]

A WSU kid makes a dumb quote and its the media's fault. :no: If a kid from Creighton, SIU, MSU, or Bradley makes a similar quote the source is treated as gospel by WSU fans. If there are positive quotes about WSU made by anybody, those quotes are always assumed to be accurate and in proper context by WSU posters. Don't you and other WSU posters have quotes appearing in your signatures? How can we be sure those people weren't misquoted or their statements taken out of context?

According to Coldblooded, WSU is the media darling of the MVC. If that's the case, why would any media source publish any quote that might make WSU appear in a bad light? :innocent:

Maybe he was talking about Coach Marshall instead of WSU and was referring how his teams are almost always in the tournament? Ever thought about it that way?

With all the assumptions made by you about WSU fans in general, you probably like to assume a lot, don't ya?

[WSUbballer]

This actually sounds more like Kansas basketball over the past 20 years if we want to compare a Super Bowl caliber team to a college basketball team of a similar level.

You can compare things without being on the same level.

The whole point was that neither team could win when it mattered most - for an NFL team that being the Super Bowl, for a mid-major college basketball team that being an NCAA Tournament win or two.

[WSUbballer]

Strong words, Tarkenton.

Don't call me Tarkenton; call me Altman.. :naughty:

[WSUbballer]

I really get a kick out of the arguing back and forth between CU and WSU fans. Two teams who have combined for less NCAA tournament wins over the last 10 years than Miami-Ohio and Kent State. You guys are powerhouses for sure.

And watching SIU play is like seeing poetry in motion.

That is what basketball is all about.

[outpost]

Just wanted to post another big "Thank you" to one of our fine moderators for posting the link.

And to he!! with the rest of this thread.......

[rjl]

Go figure. Another thread about WSU soon swarmed with blue gnats.

How sad.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Go figure. Another thread about WSU soon swarmed with blue gnats.

How sad.


This from a guy who is so obsessed with CU, he has the Qwest Center as has avatar....

How sad.

[rjl]

This from a guy who is so obsessed with CU, he has the Qwest Center as has avatar....

How sad.

My avatar is funny. Funny because it's true.

The Blue Gnat Brigade devolving every WSU thread into another chance to display their insecurities is just embarrassing, and only funny because you don't realize how sad and pathetic it is.

[Saluki762]

And watching SIU play is like seeing poetry in motion.

That is what basketball is all about.
It wins.

[outpost]

This from a guy who is so obsessed with CU, he has the Qwest Center as has avatar....

How sad.

CU has no ownership of the Qwest Center......they just happen to play there. So how can your assertion about my good friend rjl be true?

BTW - thinking about catching the 2-2-08 WSU-CU game up there. But not because I have an obsession over CU.

The Qwest is admittedly, from all the discussion I've heard, read, and otherwise, a nice venue. I hope Wichita has one like it within a few years.

[iSASO]

Outpost, when you're there snap a photo of the Creighton Final Four banner hanging from the rafters of the Qwest Center.

[MoValley John]

Outpost, when you're there snap a photo of the Creighton Final Four banner hanging from the rafters of the Qwest Center.

Rafters? You can't see the rafters beecause they have this enormous, I mean just incredibly huge scoreboard that covers the entire rafters. It's gigantic! It's an 8-sided job with all the bells and whistles. Not one of those cheap, undersized 4-sided jobs. Oh wait, it was Indiana State fans that were bragging about getting a new scoreboard. Nevermind.

[iSASO]

OK, then the lack of rafters works out pretty well for Creighton. Don't need any open space if you've really got nothing to go there.

[DoubleJayAlum]

OK, then the lack of rafters works out pretty well for Creighton. Don't need any open space if you've really got nothing to go there.

We generally leave the NIT banners for WSU. They take such pride in them.

[iSASO]

And you purposely hide your Final Four banner? Did you leave participation in that to WSU as well? Certainly it's not because you were never good enough to get there.

[WSUbballer]

We generally leave the NIT banners for WSU. They take such pride in them.

You made me think of a classic memory. 2006. Omaha. The WSU-Creighton game was on FSN and they zoomed in on the student section. A student waved around a sign that said, "WSU: Official Sponsor of the NIT". Pretty good stuff. That was funny, but even funnier was later that year CU was NIT-ing, while WSU was in the Sweet 16. Classic.

Bring back the NIT signs again this year please! :clap::grin:

[MoValley John]

Baller, what's with the new avatar? Looks a bit like you are calling SIU a bunch of British cigarettes. Anyway, whatever your intent, get it back to Photoshop and clean it up a bit. Other than that, it could become a classic.

[MoValley John]

Those guys are fags!

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[WSUbballer]

Baller, what's with the new avatar? Looks a bit like you are calling SIU a bunch of British cigarettes. Anyway, whatever your intent, get it back to Photoshop and clean it up a bit. Other than that, it could become a classic.

I can assure you John it's merely a sign of respect I've put forth to SIU. It's a prism with an SIU logo on it. That's it. Nothing more.

And even if it was "British cigaretteish", is there anything wrong with that?