College Game Day { Live From SIU}

[Clawinball]

They sure are bashing the Valley today, I hate Digger Phelps! :ranting: :shutup: :valley:

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Watching college game day from Cdale is like watching Jack Parkman doing his little shimmy


Oh whole hopefully the game tonight turns out like ever other Cu SIU matchup which are typically really good.

[jb399]

I like seeing some CU fans at Carbondale. Gives the SIU students a dose of their own medicine from what they did at Evansville.

[barkeep1967]

I thought the arena looked great and I thought the fans were pretty good also. It's publicity for SIU and it's publicity for the Valley. I know they ripped the conference a bit but they didn't say anything that was not true.

[salukis2112]

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[salukis2112]

<hr> Gameday clips from the stands.
Shakers
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Hey GO Dawgs!
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[WSUbballer]

Drake took a beating on the show.

Summing up what was said, basically #23 Drake has to win the Valley Tournament to get into the NCAA's..

[WuDrWu]

It just goes to show you that as much as you hope that someday common sense will overcome the money spewed at these idiots, they will never change.


Drake is currently 9 in the RPI. Only a titanic collapse down the strech keeps them out of the dance.

[Clawinball]

It just goes to show you that as much as you hope that someday common sense will overcome the money spewed at these idiots, they will never change.


Drake is currently 9 in the RPI. Only a titanic collapse down the strech keeps them out of the dance. If it's not BCS they act like it's something on the bottom of their shoe! :bash: :shutup: :valley:

[jb399]

They only say what the majority of the audience wants them to say. I think they said Digger has picked the home team in the gameday games all year. Why? It makes him popular. The big conferences have more fans. Therefor, they get less hate email if the build up the bigger conferences while tearing down the smaller.

[Hein72]

There comments were a joke. Can you honestly say that you think Kentucky and UConn are better buys to make the NCAA tourney then Drake. Give me a F'ing break.

[Mecha_Bulldog]

Drake took a beating on the show.

Summing up what was said, basically #23 Drake has to win the Valley Tournament to get into the NCAA's..

I thought it was more the Valley took a beating. One bid league. Didn't get it done in non-conference. Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, they singled out Drake for some reason. They haven't beaten anybody, and backed that up by saying Drake is 0-1 against the rpi top 25. They didn't mention that Drake's sos is 79 (not great, but better than some "lock" teams), they're 2-1 against the rpi top 50, and 6-1 against the rpi top 100. They also said Illinois State is a better team, but didn't mention that Drake is 2 games up on ISU in league play. Apparently if Drake wins every game until the MVC tourney final, they're NIT bound.

[Aegyptus]

I thought it was more the Valley took a beating. One bid league. Didn't get it done in non-conference. Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, they singled out Drake for some reason. They haven't beaten anybody, and backed that up by saying Drake is 0-1 against the rpi top 25. They didn't mention that Drake's sos is 79 (not great, but better than some "lock" teams), they're 2-1 against the rpi top 50, and 6-1 against the rpi top 100. They also said Illinois State is a better team, but didn't mention that Drake is 2 games up on ISU in league play. Apparently if Drake wins every game until the MVC tourney final, they're NIT bound.

Don't worry Drake. They couldn't pick three bigger idiots to put on that show. That is the reason they are on it. If they said the right thing all the time, they would be boring. That is why they don't ask Lunardi to do it. Or heck, even Gottlieb is pretty knowledgeable, thus, he is not allowed to do Gameday. Face it. If you are a capable broadcaster, you broadcast games, you don't host studio shows. Except for Bilas, the other 2 are broadcast rejects. So, they say controversial or just pain dumb things because it makes people pay attention.

They are just ticked they have to be in Carbondale. Digger and Bilas think they should always be broadcasting from Madison Square Garden. Forget about it. Drake, take care of business and you are a dead lock. I don't care what they say. In your current position, you are a 100% lock to make the Dance probably as a 6 or 7 seed.

And, for all their comments about the Valley, it sure is odd that we are still the 8th best conference. How the hell does that happen? Let them say what they want about the Valley, Lunardi and the other bracketologists know that we are a 2 bid league.

[MoValley John]

Are those upper level wooden bleachers held up on stilts? That is one unimpressive arena.

[MoValley John]

I wonder how long it took to airboat the set into Carbondale.

[XSaluki]

Are those upper level wooden bleachers held up on stilts? That is one unimpressive arena.

This is where you should reply to yourself and put a funny picture of a guy holding a rock, with a quote about Mr. Obvious. That is your shtick right? :innocent:

[Dawgbit]

I wonder how long it took to airboat the set into Carbondale.

Are those upper level wooden bleachers held up on stilts? That is one unimpressive arena.


And 55/1 in the conference at home is one impressive record.

You need to get over yourself.

[DawgFan]

I thought the show came off as well as can be expected. SIU is 9-10. Creighton is no great unit this year either. Neither are at the top of the MVC at gametime, neither have overly impressive resumes, nor does the league in general.

The league is down. They'll talk about the game a bit more tonight. They gave the MVC about as much respect as it deserves, other then not crediting Drake for its record and current RPI.

SIU fans and the small patch of blue did a nice job of atmosphere. Should be rocking tonight.

Hopefully they talk about the 40 some million SIU is putting into the ole arena in the next two years, with portions completed in time for 2010-11.

SIU received a $1,000,000 private gift toward SalukiWay on Thursday. A $20,000,000 committment from the city of Carbondale this past fall and SIU is going to have a pretty nice joint in a couple years. Its already a loud, historic place to watch a basketball game.

Hope the Dawgs and Jays put on a good show tonight and hope the Dawgs get a win so I can drink on Thursday in STL and not focus on the Dawgs until Friday.

I still think a draw that goes thru Drake on semifinal Saturday is good for the team that gets it.

[MoValley John]

Were they having a sale on cheap, high school wooden bleachers when they built that barn? Seriously.

[MoValley John]

Maybe that is what Dawgie meant when he was discussing interesting architecture.
I think the architects were all looking at the plans and one of them said, "You know, if we stuck cheap wooden bleachers in here, ya know, just hodgepodged 'em in here, it would be interesting."

[Keita44]

Were they having a sale on cheap, high school wooden bleachers when they built that barn? Seriously.

I thought one of the surrounding schools were going to throw them away, so SIU picked them up. :lol:

Really though, why is College Game Day there?

[XSaluki]

Seriously, really, I have no idea. Crappy team, crappy bleachers, crappy arena, crappy fans and there is gameday. Right there. Seriously.

[fillmore]

There comments were a joke. Can you honestly say that you think Kentucky and UConn are better buys to make the NCAA tourney then Drake. Give me a F'ing break.
i dont know, connecticut just beat indiana and drake has beaten....well....no one.

[underdawg2]

Were they having a sale on cheap, high school wooden bleachers when they built that barn? Seriously.

Seriously, I need another picture---you're MUCH better with pictures

[MoValley John]

Seriously, I need another picture---you're MUCH better with pictures

What kind of picture do you want? I'll get it!

[Fraydog]

Maybe that is what Dawgie meant when he was discussing interesting architecture.
I think the architects were all looking at the plans and one of them said, "You know, if we stuck cheap wooden bleachers in here, ya know, just hodgepodged 'em in here, it would be interesting."

On the bright side, the crap bleachers are on their way out. I only get to "enjoy" them for one more year. Then modernization hits. Don't worry, it will still be as hard as hell to win here. :salukis:

[MoValley John]

On the bright side, the crap bleachers are on their way out. I only get to "enjoy" them for one more year. Then modernization hits. Don't worry, it will still be as hard as hell to win here. :salukis:

That will be nice. Every time I see those bleachers I cringe. It's got to be a little unnerving to be at the top corner of the bleachers and wondering if you are going to fall to your death.

[Dawgbit]

Hubert Davis was interviewed by local TV station yesterday, he commended the SIU Gameday crowd, said it was triple the size of the Florida crowd last week. Even Digger commented that the intensity level was as good as anywhere they have ever been for Gameday.

If you want to experiment with that leaning over the bleachers thing MVJ, I will happily supply a ticket.

[DawgFan]

It really came off well on tv, the entire day, despite SIU's play this season. SIU fans really stepped up and put on a good show. Heard from folks who are not diehards of SIU or the MVC in general and the reactions were good.

Hopefully gameday comes back to the MVC and puts on a good show in your town. I think it will be 5 to 10 years, but I guess we'll see if the league steps it up and makes ESPN come back with urgency.

[Aegyptus]

It really came off well on tv, the entire day, despite SIU's play this season. SIU fans really stepped up and put on a good show. Heard from folks who are not diehards of SIU or the MVC in general and the reactions were good.

Hopefully gameday comes back to the MVC and puts on a good show in your town. I think it will be 5 to 10 years, but I guess we'll see if the league steps it up and makes ESPN come back with urgency.

I would love for them to give Creighton/Omaha a shot at gameday sometime in the future. I also think Bradley/Peoria would make for a good gameday location - maybe if ISU stays good that will be a rivalry to highlight in the future. That's not to say that no one else would be good, all the Valley locations would be good, but I think Omaha and Peoria would be particularly good location and they are the locations that sort of deserve it after SIU.

[gosalukie]

Were they having a sale on cheap, high school wooden bleachers when they built that barn? Seriously.

What's the point of posting on the thread just to make insults? Seriously.

[Nyghtewynd]

What's the point of posting on the thread just to make insults? Seriously.

I think you just proved his point.

[shocker3]

I would love for them to give Creighton/Omaha a shot at gameday sometime in the future. I also think Bradley/Peoria would make for a good gameday location - maybe if ISU stays good that will be a rivalry to highlight in the future. That's not to say that no one else would be good, all the Valley locations would be good, but I think Omaha and Peoria would be particularly good location and they are the locations that sort of deserve it after SIU.



Don't forget about Wichita. I think our crowd was pretty amazing last night considering our team is now 1-8 in conference play.:valley::shockers:

[XSaluki]

Don't forget about Wichita. I think our crowd was pretty amazing last night considering our team is now 1-8 in conference play.:valley::shockers:

I agree, the roundhouse is a nice venue for something like that. There are quite a few venues in the Valley that should have more televised games.

[Aegyptus]

Don't forget about Wichita. I think our crowd was pretty amazing last night considering our team is now 1-8 in conference play.:valley::shockers:

No doubt, Wichita would also be good, but I wouldn't mind showing off the 17,000 at Qwest (maybe against Wichita) or Carver full of Red in the rivalry between them and ISU Red. But, I could certainly see a Wichita - Missouri State game being the setting for Gameday as well, although I don't think that rivalry is as heated as some others.

It would be nice if we could get a non-con gameday broadcast. Qwest as the setting for Creighton v. Xavier for instance. That would be a great non-conference matchup to highlight nationally.

[Keita44]

I agree, the roundhouse is a nice venue for something like that. There are quite a few venues in the Valley that should have more televised games.

While the roundhouse is a great place to watch a game and it is always packed with screeming fans, Game Day usually only goes to where two good to great teams are playing.


Also, the Knapp Center needs to have a game televised on something other than Mediacom so more people can see just how hard this team plays!

[jaypharmalum]

While the roundhouse is a great place to watch a game and it is always packed with screeming fans, Game Day usually only goes to where two good to great teams are playing.


Also, the Knapp Center needs to have a game televised on something other than Mediacom so more people can see just how hard this team plays!

The sightlines for TV games in Wichita are atrocious for the viewer. If there's ever an MVC game on gameday again, it had better be from the Qwest. That would shatter the impression ESPN gave about our league's teams playing in relics that hold under 10k fans.

[Dawgbit]

The sightlines for TV games in Wichita are atrocious for the viewer. If there's ever an MVC game on gameday again, it had better be from the Qwest. That would shatter the impression ESPN gave about our league's teams playing in relics that hold under 10k fans.

Jaypharm- I'm fellin' ya bro, but how many does Cameron seat?

Bigger does not not always mean better.

[Keita44]

Jaypharm- I'm fellin' ya bro, but how many does Cameron seat?

Bigger does not not always mean better.

Cameron Indoor Stadium only seats 9314 according to GoDuke.com. Very good point Dawgbit....I think the Knapp Center before a Drake-Creighton game would be a great venue.

[jaypharmalum]

Cameron Indoor Stadium only seats 9314 according to GoDuke.com. Very good point Dawgbit....I think the Knapp Center before a Drake-Creighton game would be a great venue.

Whoa, Knapp would make Gonzaga's home court look "big time". It's been a couple of years since I've made the trip for CU-DU, but Knapp reminded of the CU student Kiewit fitness center, but with bleachers.

[Keita44]

Whoa, Knapp would make Gonzaga's home court look "big time". It's been a couple of years since I've made the trip for CU-DU, but Knapp reminded of the CU student Kiewit fitness center, but with bleachers.

While the Knapp Center may not be very impressive empty, when it is full (as it has been almost all of this year) it is as loud as any other court. About 1000 students come to each home game, and all of them and some would be at the Knapp for College Gameday, guaranteed.

By the way, I hope you have tickets to the game Wednesday, if you are coming, because they are sold out (even student tickets are gone).

[jaypharmalum]

By the way, I hope you have tickets to the game Wednesday, if you are coming, because they are sold out (even student tickets are gone).

About a week ago, there were a number of us who posted on TBC that there were lots of tickets left. I could have bought hundreds of tickets off the Drake website... a couple of the entire sections behind the backboards were entirely available. I'm sure CU will represent, but wish it would have been a weekend game to allow CU to take over Knapp again.

[DUBulldog]

About a week ago, there were a number of us who posted on TBC that there were lots of tickets left. I could have bought hundreds of tickets off the Drake website... a couple of the entire sections behind the backboards were entirely available.

Must have been the upper sections....the lower section behind both baskets are the student sections.

[Keita44]

Must have been the upper sections....the lower section behind both baskets are the student sections.

Are they doing assigned seating for behind the baskets in the upper sections? Usually, whoever gets there with their general admission ticket first gets to sit where they wish, but could be different for today.

And there is no way that Creighton fans will "own the Knapp Center" this year.
Obviously, they haven't been paying attention to the Drake attendance this year!

[MSNSaluki]

Really though, why is College Game Day there?

Tell me you're joking.
If not, read my sig.:yes:

[WSUbballer]

While the roundhouse is a great place to watch a game and it is always packed with screeming fans, Game Day usually only goes to where two good to great teams are playing.


Also, the Knapp Center needs to have a game televised on something other than Mediacom so more people can see just how hard this team plays!

Like WSU, Drake has to prove that they're consistently good to be even deemed worthy of being remotely considered as to being a GameDay host. One nice year outta 30 doesn't bring GameDay to your school.

[H8cr8n]

I like seeing some CU fans at Carbondale. Gives the SIU students a dose of their own medicine from what they did at Evansville.

um, dude, i've been to evansville. you should just be thankful that we brought people to buy tickets! your fan support is terrible.

BTW....there were about 20 CU fans in the Arena so don't get all excited. But I do love seeing an Evansville fan passionate about their cause! You don't see that every day!

[H8cr8n]

The sightlines for TV games in Wichita are atrocious for the viewer. If there's ever an MVC game on gameday again, it had better be from the Qwest. That would shatter the impression ESPN gave about our league's teams playing in relics that hold under 10k fans.

The impression of the "relic" I got is that you can't win there. works for me.

[DawgieStyle]

um, dude, i've been to evansville. you should just be thankful that we brought people to buy tickets! your fan support is terrible.

BTW....there were about 20 CU fans in the Arena so don't get all excited. But I do love seeing an Evansville fan passionate about their cause! You don't see that every day!

rookies.

[Saluki762]

The impression of the "relic" I got is that you can't win there. works for me.

Welcome to Valleytalk "Captain bump old threads and contribute nothing". I am looking forward to many an intelectual conversation with you over the next couple of years. Go Dawgs.:salukis::valley:

[WSUfan]

rookies.

Come on DS; you're not that far from being a rookie. The number of posts is not necessarily an indication of quality. I do enjoy some of your posts and flame wars but don't put other people down when you never used punch cards to program and don't know UNIX/LINUX/BSD.

[DawgieStyle]

Come on DS; you're not that far from being a rookie. The number of posts is not necessarily an indication of quality. I do enjoy some of your posts and flame wars but don't put other people down when you never used punch cards to program and don't know UNIX/LINUX/BSD.


apprently you missed his following post, which got deleted.....it had 2 letters, I'll go discreet as to not get deleted. The first was a version of eff as in Frank. The second was a version of you, as in Usual.

You make the call.

[Saluki762]

What's with the dissappearing posts?

[WSUbballer]

apprently you missed his following post, which got deleted.....it had 2 letters, I'll go discreet as to not get deleted. The first was a version of eff as in Frank. The second was a version of you, as in Usual.

You make the call.

I think he just meant that even though you've been here for a while and accumulated a lot of posts, that your posts don't make a lot of sense and are, at times, meaningless, much like a rookie's.

[Keita44]

Tell me you're joking.
If not, read my sig.:yes:

I understand that Southern has been a very good team in the past and was projected to be the same this year, but they aren't. This was a middle-of-the-road Valley team playing at home against a quality Bluejay squad. This matchup almost always brings a good game, but College Gameday is almost always at the site of one of the better schools of the year, not one that has been good in the past.

If Gameday was going to go to a MoValley game this year, the match-up wasn't the SIU Creighton matchup. A better choice is the Drake-Ill SU or Drake-Creighton. ESPN wouldn't have seen that early in the year (heck, no one would have), but there are better MoValley matchups this year.

[WSUbballer]

I understand that Southern has been a very good team in the past and was projected to be the same this year, but they aren't. This was a middle-of-the-road Valley team playing at home against a quality Bluejay squad. This matchup almost always brings a good game, but College Gameday is almost always at the site of one of the better schools of the year, not one that has been good in the past.

If Gameday was going to go to a MoValley game this year, the match-up wasn't the SIU Creighton matchup. A better choice is the Drake-Ill SU or Drake-Creighton. ESPN wouldn't have seen that early in the year (heck, no one would have), but there are better MoValley matchups this year.

And that's the point. I hate defending SIU in any way possible, but they had to pick a site for Gameday well in advance.. I think as early as September.. They just don't pick the sites on a week by week basis. No sane person at ESPN would ever have put a Gameday involving Drake in the month of September. Hell, it was hard enough to even get SIU-CU.. and I'm guessing the national audience was low and not impressed.

[Saluki762]

And that's the point. I hate defending SIU in any way possible, but they had to pick a site for Gameday well in advance.. I think as early as September.. They just don't pick the sites on a week by week basis. No sane person at ESPN would ever have put a Gameday involving Drake in the month of September. Hell, it was hard enough to even get SIU-CU.. and I'm guessing the national audience was low and not impressed.

It could have been Drake vs. ISU and could have been a final score of 103-99 and played flawlessly and most of the country would not have been impressed.

During Bracketbuster weekend last year I was hanging out with around 20 friends (none are Valley fans, almost all went to BCS schools from Vandy to U of I) for a bachelor party and forced them all to watch SIU-Butler. That was probably one of the best games I have seen in a long time. The overwellming opinion of everyone there was that it was a boring game with a bunch of athlete's that couldn't have competed on their respective schools level.

These are all casual college basketball fans and my guess this is the opinion of most fans nationally as well. Nothing the Valley does impresses them because of the names of the schools on the jersey. Maybe we should just be happy that the Valley did get Gameday rather than pissing and moaning about where it was.

I think the crying that goes on here about the Valley getting respect happens way too much. I know that SIU has a good program, same with Creighton, UNI, Bradley, WSU and other Valley schools. I don't really care that some a-hole from South Carolina thinks that the Gamecocks are a better basketball program. We all know the truth and it shows almost every year come tournament time. We can compete with anyone.

[dawg]

apprently you missed his following post, which got deleted.....it had 2 letters, I'll go discreet as to not get deleted. The first was a version of eff as in Frank. The second was a version of you, as in Usual.

You make the call.

I own property in "Effingham, Illinois."

That one just never gets old. When I tell people I can see that "for real?" look on their faces about 75 percent of the time.

[WSUfan]

apprently you missed his following post, which got deleted.....it had 2 letters, I'll go discreet as to not get deleted. The first was a version of eff as in Frank. The second was a version of you, as in Usual.

You make the call.

My call is that your reaction to the deleted post was to laugh.

Am I right?

[Saluki762]

My call is that your reaction to the deleted post was to laugh.

Am I right?

My reaction was a laugh and a picture but it got deleted as well. I don't know why.