MVC Tourney Projections

[MetDrakeFan]

Game 1: :shockers: over :sycamores:
2: :bears: over :aces:
3: :bulldogs: over :shockers:
4: :braves: over :jays:
5: :redbirds: over :bears:
6: :salukis: over :panthers:
7: :bulldogs: over :braves:
8: :salukis: over :redbirds:
9: :bulldogs: over :salukis:
:valley: champs: :bulldogs:. Ugly dogs at title game should get them in, illinois state making it to semi's should get them in. Bulldogs get the best seed they can in NCAA's by winning the Valley tourney and regular season title. Two things that scare me: 1 - betting against Altman, and 2 - betting on the 1 seed.

All your guyss thoughts?

[NewEra]

Game 1: :shockers: over :sycamores:


maybe you shouldn't have made this the first line in your post. I stopped reading after I saw this. I'm a shox but can't see how they get a win. Sure you can argue they played a lot of tough close games problem is a large majority of the time they lost those tough close games.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Illinois State and Creighton in the Finals.


Ill State by 5

[DawgieStyle]

Game 1: :shockers: over :sycamores:
2: :bears: over :aces:
3: :bulldogs: over :shockers:
4: :braves: over :jays:
5: :redbirds: over :bears:
6: :salukis: over :panthers:
7: :bulldogs: over :braves:
8: :salukis: over :redbirds:
9: :bulldogs: over :salukis:
:valley: champs: :bulldogs:. Ugly dogs at title game should get them in, illinois state making it to semi's should get them in. Bulldogs get the best seed they can in NCAA's by winning the Valley tourney and regular season title. Two things that scare me: 1 - betting against Altman, and 2 - betting on the 1 seed.

All your guyss thoughts?

I think that's the biggest homer pick i've seen in a long time, considering the #1 seed hasn't won it in over 10 years.

[WSUbballer]

I think that's the biggest homer pick i've seen in a long time, considering the #1 seed hasn't won it in over 10 years.

Who do you have winning Dawgie?

[MoValley John]

The hell with the pairings, I'm taking Missouri State all the way!

Most likely winner is Illinois State, but Go Bears!!!!

[DawgieStyle]

Who do you have winning Dawgie?

Since it's basically been the Creighton Invitational, and they have the deepest team, which is a huge advantage in 3 games in 3 day tournament.

I go with Creighton.

[WSUbballer]

The hell with the pairings, I'm taking Missouri State all the way!

Most likely winner is Illinois State, but Go Bears!!!!

You pick Drake as your team at the beginning of the year.

They become the No.1 seed in the Valley Tournament for the first time in over 30 years and you now abandon them?

WTF??

[MetDrakeFan]

Based on past stats, the Redbirds are favorites...however, this year is different. That's my gut feeling. I wouldn't say it's a big homer pick though.

As far as Shocks over Sycs, I think the Shocks are starting to get better, and on a neutral site, they just might beat the Sycs. Granted, this is the MVC, and it seems anything can happen, even a DU loss in their first game of the tourney. This conference is as tough from top to bottom as it has recently been.

[MetDrakeFan]

Since it's basically been the Creighton Invitational, and they have the deepest team, which is a huge advantage in 3 games in 3 day tournament.

I go with Creighton.

True, Creighton's depth would be a great factor, but I have a feeling they won't get by Bradley. It will be a close fought game, but I think the Braves will prevail.

[WSUbballer]

WSU over IndySt
MSU over UE

DU over WSU
CU over BU
SIU over UNI
MSU over IllSU

DU over CU
MSU over SIU

MSU over DU

[MoValley John]

You pick Drake as your team at the beginning of the year.

They become the No.1 seed in the Valley Tournament for the first time in over 30 years and you now abandon them?

WTF??

I'm not aboandoning anybody. Drake is in, they seem to be a little tired. They can lose and be just fine. Illinois State has the most to play for, I think they'll win.

I'm pulling for MSU just to see what happens to the town, school and fans if Barry makes a run. That alone would be priceless!

[Awesome]

I'm going with the field and history, no way Drake wins.

[outpost]

Apologies........I thought the title of the thread was Ejections.......

WSU players (and fans) leave the arena after it's first round defeat.

:wheelchair::wheelchair::wheelchair::wheelchair: :wheelchair:

Nothing left at that point but

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

[Awesome]

I'm pulling for MSU just to see what happens to the town, school and fans if Barry makes a run. That alone would be priceless!

That's the worst case scenario. Remember when St. Louis won the World Series? Yeah, the couldn't fire Walt Jockity after that, but they had to wait a year. The damage has already been done to that team for a few years.

[WSUbballer]

I'm not aboandoning anybody. Drake is in, they seem to be a little tired. They can lose and be just fine. Illinois State has the most to play for, I think they'll win.

I'm pulling for MSU just to see what happens to the town, school and fans if Barry makes a run. That alone would be priceless!

Ya, they're in the NCAA's.. but you don't wanna see 'your' team win it all in St. Louis???

I do agree about the MSU run scenario. That would be fun to watch. I also think it's gonna happen.

[MoValley John]

Apologies........I thought the title of the thread was Ejections.......

WSU players (and fans) leave the arena after it's first round defeat.

:wheelchair::wheelchair::wheelchair::wheelchair: :wheelchair:

Nothing left at that point but

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
Ejacu... Oh, wait, you wrote ejections. Nevermind.

[DawgieStyle]

I'm not aboandoning anybody. Drake is in, they seem to be a little tired. They can lose and be just fine. Illinois State has the most to play for, I think they'll win.

I'm pulling for MSU just to see what happens to the town, school and fans if Barry makes a run. That alone would be priceless!

I disagree that ISU has the most to play for. They are more firmly on the plus side of the NCAA bubble, than SIU is. I think SIU has as much to play for as ISU, if not more, with their NCAA streak on the line.

That said, I still think Creighton wins it with their depth.

[WSUfan]

Game 1: :shockers: over :sycamores:
Game 2: :bears: over :aces:
Game 3: :shockers: over :bulldogs:
Game 4: :braves: over :jays:
Game 5: :bears: over :redbirds:
Game 6: :salukis: over :panthers:
Game 7: :shockers: over :braves:
Game 8: :bears: over :salukis:
Game 9: :bears: over :shockers:

Drake and MSU play for the national championship and Drake wins. Barry gets a five year extension. :innocent: :lol:

[Hein72]

:braves: over :redbirds:

:bulldogs: 6 seed
:redbirds: 11 seed
:braves: 13 seed

Of course I am hoping for my :shockers: who will get a 16 if they win.

[jaypharmalum]

Drake over In St
Bradley over CU
SIU over UNI
Il St over MSU

Bradley over Drake
Il St over SIU

Bradley over Ill St


Drake- 8 seed
Ill State - 12 seed
Bradley - 14 seed

[DUBulldog]

I think that's the biggest homer pick i've seen in a long time, considering the #1 seed hasn't won it in over 10 years.

Dawgie....past results in no way influence the outcome of this year's tourney. In any given year, the #1 seed has to be considered one of the favorites. So, you don't think Drake will win....great. But, it doesn't mean his pick is a homer pick. And, if Drake doesn't win, it won't be because the previous 10 #1 seeds haven't won.

Tell us why you think Drake won't win....but come up with something more solid than "because the #1 seed hasn't won it in over 10 years." That's as weak as you think the karma stuff is.

[Creightonjoey]

Winner of Jays v. Braves takes it

[jayfan04]

I disagree that ISU has the most to play for. They are more firmly on the plus side of the NCAA bubble, than SIU is. I think SIU has as much to play for as ISU, if not more, with their NCAA streak on the line.

That said, I still think Creighton wins it with their depth.

Depth only matters if the Jays can beat Bradley, which is going to be very difficult. However, I see whoever wins that game beating Drake and playing Illinois State in the finals. ISU wins the whole thing and gets about an 11-12 seed. Drake gets a 6-8 seed

Jays get 3-4 seed in the NIT
SIU gets a 5-6 seed in the NIT

[blueness]

Semis:
Creighton over Drake
Illinois State over Southern Illinois

Final:
Creighton over Illinois State in the finals.

Drake 6 seed
Illinois State 11 seed
Creighton 12 seed

NIT: SIU, BU

[Creightonjoey]

Depth only matters if the Jays can beat Bradley, which is going to be very difficult. However, I see whoever wins that game beating Drake and playing Illinois State in the finals. ISU wins the whole thing and gets about an 11-12 seed. Drake gets a 6-8 seed

Jays get 3-4 seed in the NIT
SIU gets a 5-6 seed in the NIT

siu will get a higher seed in the NIT unless the Jays make it to the tourney finals. no doubt

[DawgieStyle]

Dawgie....past results in no way influence the outcome of this year's tourney. In any given year, the #1 seed has to be considered one of the favorites. So, you don't think Drake will win....great. But, it doesn't mean his pick is a homer pick. And, if Drake doesn't win, it won't be because the previous 10 #1 seeds haven't won.

Tell us why you think Drake won't win....but come up with something more solid than "because the #1 seed hasn't won it in over 10 years." That's as weak as you think the karma stuff is.

Drake has looked tired in its last several games, and they have very little depth, which really hurts a team in a tournament in which you must play 3 games in 3 days. I don't think they have enough gas in the tank to do it.

[DUBulldog]

Drake has looked tired in its last several games, and they have very little depth, which really hurts a team in a tournament in which you must play 3 games in 3 days. I don't think they have enough gas in the tank to do it.

Thank you. For the record, I agree with you.

[MSU Bleeds Maroon]

I disagree that ISU has the most to play for. They are more firmly on the plus side of the NCAA bubble, than SIU is. I think SIU has as much to play for as ISU, if not more, with their NCAA streak on the line.

That said, I still think Creighton wins it with their depth.

If Illinois State yaks their first tournament game, they'll slip back to the dangerous side of the bubble. I think they absolutely must win on Friday to be confident of a bid.

If ISU and SIU meet on Saturday, then I think the Ugly Dogs would have more to play for at that point. But they've both got to get through Friday first.

[Nyghtewynd]

Boys, you can root for Short Round all you want. He can win the whole thing. He's still gone and nothing at the tournament's going to make any difference. If MSU wins it, that just means that they'll get an even better coach than they would before.

No time for love, Dr. Jones.

That being said,

InSU over WSU
UE over MSU

DU over InSU
CU over BU
IlSU over UE
SIU over UNI

CU over DU
IlSU over SIU

CU over IlSU

NCAA: DU, CU, IlSU
NIT: SIU, BU

[Awesome]

Of course I am hoping for my :shockers: who will get a 16 if they win.

How embarassing would it be if our conference champ has to play in the play-in game?

[Dawg_tired]

I love the fact that Dawgie Stool has picked Drake to lose. That's the best karma we can get.:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Keita44]

Drake has looked tired in its last several games, and they have very little depth, which really hurts a team in a tournament in which you must play 3 games in 3 days. I don't think they have enough gas in the tank to do it.

I agree that the good Dawgs were a little tired, but we did have 6 days to rest up before having to play again.

Thursday
InSU will beat WSU
SMS will beat Evansville

Friday
InSU will beat Drake (by about 100)
Creighton will beat Bradley (P'Allen will go off for about 23)
Illinois State will beat SMS (SMS will take an early lead of 9-8, then all ISU)
SIU will beat UNI going away

Saturday
Creighton will beat InSU
Southern Illinois will beat IlSU

Sunday
Creighton will beat SIU

[DawgFan]

I predict scalpers will take a bath. The weather doesn't look all that good for Friday and if SIU and/or Bradley go out early, the walk ups needin tix for the weekend will be few and nil.

[bcrawf]

Thursday-
Indiana State over Wichita State
Missouri State over Evansville

Friday-
Drake over Indiana State
Creighton over Bradley
Missouri State over Illinois State
Northern Iowa over Southern Illinois

Saturday-
Drake over Creighton
Northern Iowa over Missouri State

Sunday-
Northern Iowa over Drake

UNI becomes the first 6th seed ever to win Arch Madness and heads for the tournament on a roll- :clap::panthers::clap::panthers::clap:

[MSNSaluki]

Southern Illinois is going to win the 2008 Missouri Valley tournament.:salukis:

Trust me ... I'm no homer.

Just a gut feeling.

[creightonfever]

Southern Illinois is going to win the 2008 Missouri Valley tournament.:salukis:

Trust me ... I'm no homer.

Just a gut feeling.


I think just about everyone has "gut feelings" that their team is going to win.:doh:

[getreal4]

Thursday-
Sunday-
Northern Iowa over Drake

UNI becomes the first 6th seed ever to win Arch Madness and heads for the tournament on a roll- :clap::panthers::clap::panthers::clap:


If this happens, I'll come to Cedar Falls Tuesday and take you, kaboom & KB all to Dinner, my treat. :grin:

Would be money well spent, Drake would be a 5 seed. :innocent:

[upsaluki]

Southern Illinois is going to win the 2008 Missouri Valley tournament.:salukis:

Trust me ... I'm no homer.

Just a gut feeling.
I'm a little surprised by this. Don't worry, I won't blow your cover on ST. :original:

[tpguy1]

I can't believe Drake isn't getting more love. They've been the best of the MVC this year. As a Redbird fan, I hope we can win it all, but don't forget what a great team Drake has.

I predict Creighton will beat BU 39-38 in two overtimes.

I predict SIU is one and out.

Go Redbirds

[Dawg_tired]

Southern Illinois is going to win the 2008 Missouri Valley tournament.:salukis:

Trust me ... I'm no homer.

Just a gut feeling.

Pepcid always works for me.

[doinit salukistyle]

My homerism does weigh in a lot.

Drake won't win it, number 1 seed never does

Southern Illinois...I have the feeling...everytime they lost this year...I had that bad feeling..."yeah they'll lose"

I don't have it...Illinois state I think we'll beat because it's hard to beat a rival3 times a year...falker will have a pissed off way to him, losing at home during senior night might be a good thing for this team...

SIU will beat drake in finals the because the refs will have the "mo valley needs more than one bid" way officiating to them

[DoubleJayAlum]

I predict Creighton will beat BU 39-38 in two overtimes.

There certainly is precedent for 2 OTs. However since neither team plays defense especially well, if it goes 2 OTS again, the score is more likely to be 139-138 than 39-38. :grin:

[SydCamore]

I predict Southern Illinois to win the tourney.

This would be the best thing for the league. Drake is in no matter what.

I would like to see Missouri State win the tournament and sign Barry Henson to a 10-year deal. :bears::banana:

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

How embarassing would it be if our conference champ has to play in the play-in game?


Evansville could win this tourney and they wouldnt be a 16 seed much less the Shockers

[Aces101]

I have a "gut feeling" about my Aces. They are going to ........ nah, I won't go there.

Our time will come ..... wait until the 2009-2010 season. I am a Cubs fan too. Can anyone tell?

:aces:

[Khan4Cats]

I said earlier in the year that I think UNI has the talent, if they put it together, to win three games in three days in St. Louis. We managed to get ourselves into Friday (thank you Bears), so I will still go with that as my homer pick.


But this field is so wide open, depending on how some things shake out so I also did this analysis on PantherNation:

Drake: Great run in the regular season and won a lot of close games. Looked a little tired at the end of the season, not a great sign for a team that relies on the outside shot. I just don't see them keeping fresh enough legs over the course of three days to keep hitting outside shots.

Illinois State: Most athletic team in the field and probably the "safe-money" bet to win the whole thing. Problem facing them is they occasionally seem to lose focus and may get a Missouri State team that is playing care-free with a coach that has nothing to lose anymore.

Southern Illinois: Will grind out 3 games in three days as well as anyone in the field and have the stamina/fitness to do it, but can they consistently score enough? Their best strength is pounding it inside and forcing teams to double the inside to get outside open looks. Unfortunately, they get UNI, the one team in the Valley that can match their inside game one on one, could come down to which teams guards shoot it best.

Creighton: May be the best team to stay fresh all three days because of their deep rotation of players. Altman has owned this tournament and I would not be surprised to see him make another run, can't see Drake (or anyone) beating Altman three times in a season, but they have to get past Bradley first.

Bradley: Does any one player key a team more than Ruffin does the Braves? They have some very good players and can beat anyone without Ruffin, with him they are real scary. A third game out of their last 6 against Creighton in round 1 should be an epic battle and they battled Drake to a pair of one-point games. Will their outside shooting legs hold up over three days?

UNI: It all depends on which team shows up on the defensive end in terms of communication and rotation and the big guy inside's fire on the offensive end. IF EC plays as he has the last three games for each game in St. Louis, he will collect three more double-doubles and be the Tourney MVP in leading us to the Dance, if he plays like he did at Creighton, Illinois State, ... we'll be gone quick. I see him facing Falker one last time as the kick start for motivation. As long as we pound it inside for three days we'll be fine as we have never been able to consistently rely on the outside shot this year.

Missouri State: Could have been my pick if they had slipped into the Friday games. The extra day I think will wear them down but I could see them riding emotion to the semi-finals. Of course, they could completely fold in the first round as well.

Indiana State: Not sure what the impact of falling from a possible 5 seed all the way to 8 will have on a young team. Will have a battle against a Wichita team that has played hard through adversity all year, but I think that would be as far as they go. A fresh Drake will be waiting on Friday.

Wichita State: A team that has battled injury all year but still competed every night as illustrated by three straight OT losses (two on the road). Will give Indiana State a battle and I wouldn't be surprised by a win. Two would be a real Shocker with Drake being the next game.

Evansville: I think Marty will start putting a real competitive team together in Evansville real soon, but not this year. I see Missouri State putting a hurt on Evansville unless the Aces can really create a stall game, still don't think they can pull it off.


In all, my (head not heart) guesses in order of likelihood of winning it all: Illinois State, Creighton, SIU, Bradley, UNI, Drake, MSU, InSU, Wichita, Evansville

[DawgieStyle]

UNI fans, is the tall man Edsleger (sp?) going to play?

[Khan4Cats]

UNI fans, is the tall man Edsleger (sp?) going to play?

All indications are yes. I haven't heard anything different as of yet. They were really pleased to have the extra day to continue therapy for him.

Hopefully he holds up for all three days, though if we make the finals against Drake or Bradley, he doesn't really match up well with either of them.

[DawgieStyle]

All indications are yes. I haven't heard anything different as of yet. They were really pleased to have the extra day to continue therapy for him.

Hopefully he holds up for all three days, though if we make the finals against Drake or Bradley, he doesn't really match up well with either of them.

damn, I'd rather not play him. He was the reason we lost in Cedar Falls, not Eric Coleman. If you get both coleman and him Doubling Falker, its almost impossible for us to win unless we can actually make our open shots from the perimeter.

If the good 3 point shooting SIU shows up, this game is gonna be a blow out. If they don't, UNI will grind us down and win.

[WuDrWu]

I will be very surprised if the winner is not SIU (most physical and toughest team for 3 in 3) or CU (by far the deepest team for 3 in 3).


Anyone else will be a big upset to me although I think I will pull for ISU Red.

[valleyclimber]

Looks my take on Arch Madness is different then most...here goes:

Thursday:

:sycamores: over :shockers:
:bears: over :aces:

Friday:

:bulldogs: over :sycamores:
:jays: over :braves:
:redbirds: over :bears:
:panthers: over :salukis:

Now some explaining....DU over ISU-Blue...Sycs are AWFUL away from Terre Haute and the Bulldogs are Valley regular season champs by a full 2 games.

CU over BU....This is such a toss-up game. Give the edge to the Jays because of depth and if BU is not "on" with their treys, then CU wins this one.

ISU-Red over MSU... Basically the Redbirds need to get this opening win to assure themselves of an NCAA bid. Should be a good game, and personally I will be sorry to see Barry Hinson go because he's been a fantastic spokesman for the strength of the Valley throughout his tenure in Springfield.

UNI over SIU...Another one of those games where SIU has been just this side of horrific on the road. IF the good Panthers show up, then I think ALOT of people will be suprised to the Salukis sent packing after their first game.

Saturday:

:jays: over :bulldogs:
:redbirds: over :panthers:

CU over DU...Bluejays get their legs after taking out the Braves and upset the Bulldogs giving the Valley at least 2 teams in the Big Dance.

ISU-Red over UNI...The Redbirds win their second Arch Madness game thereby getting to 24 wins, ensuring an excellent RPI and putting themselves safely in the NCAA tourney.

Sunday:

CU over ISU-Red...It's a do-or-die game for the Jays. WIn it and CU goes dancing or lose and go to the NIT. Think the Bluejays depth pays off here, and they go dancing which means the Drake Bulldogs, the ISU Redbirds and the CU Bluejays will all represent the Valley in the NCAA tourney.


IMHO, think the Valley gets a minimum of 2 teams in, but ISU-Red needs to get that opening game win, and if the Bulldogs or Redbirds DON'T win Arch Madness, then indeed there could be 3 MVC that will be putting on their dancing shoes. Also have a feeling that the Valley teams might just do MORE than alright for themselves once they hit the floor in the NCAA tourney...ooooo YEAH!!

GO VALLEY!:valley:
:braves::jays::bulldogs::aces::redbirds::sycamores ::bears::panthers::salukis::shockers:

:clap:

[getreal4]

Has UNI found a pt guard yet? :innocent:

[shockball]

Stat man Pomeroy says DU has a 40% chance of winning. Also, he shows MSU with a better chance of winning 4 games than UNI does 3. Having never seen a game he discounts AE as MVP.

March 6, 2008
Conference Tournament Previews
The MVC, NEC, CAA, and SoCon


by Ken Pomeroy


Two tournaments tip off tonight, and I’m throwing in two more that start early Friday. All figures listed are the chances of a team getting to a particular round, based on the log5 formula and my adjusted Pythagorean winning percentages, with the rightmost column indicating its chances of winning the tournament.

Missouri Valley

Qtrs Semis Final Champ
1 Drake 100 86.6 61.7 40.2
2 Illinois St. 100 70.3 41.2 19.9
3 Southern Illinois 100 75.3 39.7 18.3
4 Creighton 100 57.9 21.6 10.1
5 Bradley 100 42.1 13.0 5.1
7 Missouri St. 85.6 28.6 12.1 4.0
6 Northern Iowa 100 24.7 6.8 1.6
8 Indiana St. 56.6 8.3 2.5 0.6
9 Wichita St. 43.4 5.1 1.3 0.3
10 Evansville 14.4 1.1 0.1 0.01

Format: All games at the Scottrade Center, St. Louis, March 6-9.
Most likely championship matchup: Drake vs. Illinois St. (25%)

There will be talk of curses if Drake cannot win as the top seed, but it’s merely the reality of playing in a league that never has a dominant team. Despite the Bulldogs' clinching the top seed weeks ago, there are three other teams with legitimate title hopes, which is to say that outsiders hoping for a one-bid Valley will probably be disappointed.

One other note on the Valley: are there any skeptics out there as to whether Drake point guard Adam Emmenecker was anywhere close to the MVP in the conference? I know he did the little things that don’t show up in the box score and he has a "high basketball IQ," but he better be in the hoops version of Mensa because his stats don’t indicate an MVP-type player. To review, Emmenecker averaged fewer than eight points per game while not making a three-pointer all season. While he was very good at setting up his teammates, he also had the most turnovers per minute played of any starting point guard in the conference while playing on a very slow paced team. I know stats aren’t everything, but I can’t help but think that if Emmenecker was the same player, yet from Chicago with a 40-inch vertical, folks wouldn’t be obsessed with the little things he does and would instead be rightly focusing on the production of Josh Young and Leonard Houston, Drake’s real MVP’s.

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/

[JasonAtBradley]

Boys, you can root for Short Round all you want. He can win the whole thing. He's still gone and nothing at the tournament's going to make any difference. If MSU wins it, that just means that they'll get an even better coach than they would before.

No time for love, Dr. Jones.

That being said,

InSU over WSU
UE over MSU

DU over InSU
CU over BU
IlSU over UE
SIU over UNI

CU over DU
IlSU over SIU

CU over IlSU

NCAA: DU, CU, IlSU
NIT: SIU, BU

There's no chance on earth Bradley is going to get into the NIT if they lose their first game against Creighton. They could reasonably get an away game in the CBI, but they definitely won't get into the NIT without winning against Creighton.

[valleyclimber]

Looks like I'm 6-0 on my Arch Madness projections so far. Three games left, and I have...

Saturday:

:jays: over :bulldogs:
:redbirds: over :panthers:

then for the auto on Sunday:

:jays:over:redbirds:

That would be 3...count 'em 3 bids for the Valley. And, like I said in an earlier post, those 3 teams (:jays::bulldogs::redbirds:) will be battle-tested and could REALLY suprise alot of fans across the country once they put on those dancin' shoes and hit the NCAA tourney floor...LOVE IT!!!!

GO VALLEY!! :valley: :clap:

:jays::bulldogs::redbirds::panthers:

[MoValley John]

Looks my take on Arch Madness is different then most...here goes:

Thursday:

:sycamores: over :shockers:
:bears: over :aces:

Friday:

:bulldogs: over :sycamores:
:jays: over :braves:
:redbirds: over :bears:
:panthers: over :salukis:

Now some explaining....DU over ISU-Blue...Sycs are AWFUL away from Terre Haute and the Bulldogs are Valley regular season champs by a full 2 games.

CU over BU....This is such a toss-up game. Give the edge to the Jays because of depth and if BU is not "on" with their treys, then CU wins this one.

ISU-Red over MSU... Basically the Redbirds need to get this opening win to assure themselves of an NCAA bid. Should be a good game, and personally I will be sorry to see Barry Hinson go because he's been a fantastic spokesman for the strength of the Valley throughout his tenure in Springfield.

UNI over SIU...Another one of those games where SIU has been just this side of horrific on the road. IF the good Panthers show up, then I think ALOT of people will be suprised to the Salukis sent packing after their first game.

Saturday:

:jays: over :bulldogs:
:redbirds: over :panthers:

CU over DU...Bluejays get their legs after taking out the Braves and upset the Bulldogs giving the Valley at least 2 teams in the Big Dance.

ISU-Red over UNI...The Redbirds win their second Arch Madness game thereby getting to 24 wins, ensuring an excellent RPI and putting themselves safely in the NCAA tourney.

Sunday:

CU over ISU-Red...It's a do-or-die game for the Jays. WIn it and CU goes dancing or lose and go to the NIT. Think the Bluejays depth pays off here, and they go dancing which means the Drake Bulldogs, the ISU Redbirds and the CU Bluejays will all represent the Valley in the NCAA tourney.


IMHO, think the Valley gets a minimum of 2 teams in, but ISU-Red needs to get that opening game win, and if the Bulldogs or Redbirds DON'T win Arch Madness, then indeed there could be 3 MVC that will be putting on their dancing shoes. Also have a feeling that the Valley teams might just do MORE than alright for themselves once they hit the floor in the NCAA tourney...ooooo YEAH!!

GO VALLEY!:valley:
:braves::jays::bulldogs::aces::redbirds::sycamores ::bears::panthers::salukis::shockers:

:clap:

These are just some sick picks so far! You should have been in Vegas!

[Keita44]

Has UNI found a pt guard yet? :innocent:

Evidently they don't need one to beat SIU....what does that say about SIU?


Hey Dawgie...you impressed with your NIT-bound team?

[Keita44]

Looks like I'm 6-0 on my Arch Madness projections so far. Three games left, and I have...

Saturday:

:jays: over :bulldogs:
:redbirds: over :panthers:

then for the auto on Sunday:

:jays:over:redbirds:

That would be 3...count 'em 3 bids for the Valley. And, like I said in an earlier post, those 3 teams (:jays::bulldogs::redbirds:) will be battle-tested and could REALLY suprise alot of fans across the country once they put on those dancin' shoes and hit the NCAA tourney floor...LOVE IT!!!!

GO VALLEY!! :valley: :clap:

:jays::bulldogs::redbirds::panthers:

Nice work.....

By the way, I agree with CU over Drake today.

Creighton just has too much depth and talent to lose to a worn down Bulldog team.

Creighton 129
Drake 23

[WSUbballer]

Evidently they don't need one to beat SIU....what does that say about SIU?


Hey Dawgie...you impressed with your NIT-bound team?

Dawgie won't be on for a while to answer your question. He's in Kleenexville.

[Dawg_tired]

Looks my take on Arch Madness is different then most...here goes:

Thursday:

:sycamores: over :shockers:
:bears: over :aces:

Friday:

:bulldogs: over :sycamores:
:jays: over :braves:
:redbirds: over :bears:
:panthers: over :salukis:

Now some explaining....DU over ISU-Blue...Sycs are AWFUL away from Terre Haute and the Bulldogs are Valley regular season champs by a full 2 games.

CU over BU....This is such a toss-up game. Give the edge to the Jays because of depth and if BU is not "on" with their treys, then CU wins this one.

ISU-Red over MSU... Basically the Redbirds need to get this opening win to assure themselves of an NCAA bid. Should be a good game, and personally I will be sorry to see Barry Hinson go because he's been a fantastic spokesman for the strength of the Valley throughout his tenure in Springfield.

UNI over SIU...Another one of those games where SIU has been just this side of horrific on the road. IF the good Panthers show up, then I think ALOT of people will be suprised to the Salukis sent packing after their first game.

Saturday:

:jays: over :bulldogs:
:redbirds: over :panthers:

CU over DU...Bluejays get their legs after taking out the Braves and upset the Bulldogs giving the Valley at least 2 teams in the Big Dance.

ISU-Red over UNI...The Redbirds win their second Arch Madness game thereby getting to 24 wins, ensuring an excellent RPI and putting themselves safely in the NCAA tourney.

Sunday:

CU over ISU-Red...It's a do-or-die game for the Jays. WIn it and CU goes dancing or lose and go to the NIT. Think the Bluejays depth pays off here, and they go dancing which means the Drake Bulldogs, the ISU Redbirds and the CU Bluejays will all represent the Valley in the NCAA tourney.


IMHO, think the Valley gets a minimum of 2 teams in, but ISU-Red needs to get that opening game win, and if the Bulldogs or Redbirds DON'T win Arch Madness, then indeed there could be 3 MVC that will be putting on their dancing shoes. Also have a feeling that the Valley teams might just do MORE than alright for themselves once they hit the floor in the NCAA tourney...ooooo YEAH!!

GO VALLEY!:valley:
:braves::jays::bulldogs::aces::redbirds::sycamores ::bears::panthers::salukis::shockers:

:clap:


Drake beats CU. What say you now wise one?

[valleyclimber]

I say....good for the Bulldogs. That's sets a great championship game between 2 MVC teams that will be fun to watch in the Big Dance...ooo yeah!!

I've got :redbirds: over :bulldogs: which means that both teams will get a nice seed for the tourney.

Drake has been an amazing story this year, and I'll be rooting for them when they hit the floor in the NCAA tourney. :yeah:

GO VALLEY!! :valley::banana:

[WuDrWu]

I will be very surprised if the winner is not SIU (most physical and toughest team for 3 in 3) or CU (by far the deepest team for 3 in 3).


Anyone else will be a big upset to me although I think I will pull for ISU Red.

Well, happy to point out how wrong I was. I will still be pulling for ISU red but more importantly, a really good game on national tv tomorrow.


I think the Valley clinched 2 teams in the tourney today and I think CU and SIU were closer to getting in than most people will ever know.