OT: Stanford @ UCLA

[Mecha_Bulldog]

Anybody else watching this game on Fox Sports? Stanford was up double-digits most of the first half as UCLA struggled to score. UCLA fights back in the second half, and ties it with two free throws with 2 seconds left. Replays showed Stanford was called for a foul despite making a clean block. It's now in overtime, and UCLA is up 2 with 2:30+ left.

[WSUbballer]

Stanford absolutely got hosed on that foul call at the end of regulation. It's gonna end up costing them the game..

Wow, surprise, surprise.

Another idiotic call made by a referee. For as much as these tools get paid and how bad they are, it's really a sick joke.

[Mecha_Bulldog]

UCLA wins 77-67, but it was a close game until the final minute. I don't think Stanford scored until the final seconds of overtime, which is fitting considering how badly the offenses struggled at times. Yeah, the call at the end of regulation was bad, but the refs didn't make Stanford lose a double-digit second half lead like Stanford did. The refs also didn't miss a free throw right before that call like Stanford did.

[WSUbballer]

UCLA wins 77-67, but it was a close game until the final minute. I don't think Stanford scored until the final seconds of overtime, which is fitting considering how badly the offenses struggled at times. Yeah, the call at the end of regulation was bad, but the refs didn't make Stanford lose a double-digit second half lead like Stanford did. The refs also didn't miss a free throw right before that call like Stanford did.

I can agree with the fact that the refs didn't cost Stanford the double-digit lead, etc, etc.

I just think in that situation, at that time, with less than 2 seconds left, Stanford was, in fact, winning. It was a clean block and if a non-blind referee would have realized this, he would've swallowed his whistle and the game would have went Stanford's way.

Usually, in those situations, with the time under 10 seconds, the refs let the players decide the game, if nothing blatant is seen.

Well, they went 0 for 2 there. Not only was there nothing blatant, but there wasn't even a foul committed.

It's so lame how these nutjobs can truly influence the outcomes of these games.

I'm growing to hate em all. I hate the NCAA even more for letting it continually happen.

[MoValley John]

For a second there I thought you all were talking about Standford. Stanford can lose all they want, I'm a big Standford fan.

[WSUbballer]

For a second there I thought you all were talking about Standford. Stanford can lose all they want, I'm a big Standford fan.

:lol::lol:

I was waiting for it..!!

:lol::lol:

[outpost]

Fun game to watch, I stayed up for it all.

I was happy with the outcome, but UCLA had to come from 11 down in the final 6 minutes of regulation.

Yeah, I think another bad call was made.....even worse than the one made in the 'Nova-Georgetown game earlier this year. But at least it happened to Stanford this time.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

As it happened, a game with two 7-footers belonged to Collison, who at 6-foot and 160 pounds was the smallest guy on the floor. At 9:50 of the second half, he converted a four-point play — a 3-pointer from the corner, despite a foul that knocked him out of bounds. Then the foul shot. With 2.5 seconds, he hit two more free throws to send the game into overtime. Truth be told, Collison thought the call — a foul on the shot — was a gift.

"That was a complete block," he said. "We were fortunate to get that call.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7884298/Bruins-slug-it-out-vs.-Cardinal-with-defense,-little-luck

[Aegyptus]

Fran Fraschilla was on Mike and Mike this morning filling in for Golic and said that the Pac-10 refs are the worst in the country. He said they use the same guys over and over and they ref the game to get expected outcomes. UCLA is expected to win ... so they win. If they are seeing a team for the last time, they call the game against them. That kind of stuff. The way he described them kind of reminded me of NBA refs. I just thought it was interesting coming from Fraschilla who is normally a pretty reserved guy.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

What a bunch of (expletive) that is!

[Nyghtewynd]

What a bunch of (expletive) that is!

Who knew that the WSU coach posted on VT?

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

I must have a brain cramp because im not following

[outpost]

Fran Fraschilla was on Mike and Mike this morning filling in for Golic and said that the Pac-10 refs are the worst in the country. He said they use the same guys over and over and they ref the game to get expected outcomes. UCLA is expected to win ... so they win. If they are seeing a team for the last time, they call the game against them. That kind of stuff. The way he described them kind of reminded me of NBA refs. I just thought it was interesting coming from Fraschilla who is normally a pretty reserved guy.

Bump!

I wonder what he would say about the UCLA-Cal game yesterday.....Anyone watch highlights of the last 24 seconds? Again, UCLA escapes what looked to be a sure loss.....and with the help of some questionable officiating.

Setting the stage......down 4 (80-76) with about :31 left....Freshman Kevin Love hits a 3-pointer to cut the Bruins deficit to 1. Shortly after the Bears inbound the ball, Cal's Ryan Anderson gets trapped (tackled?) in the deep corner on UCLA's end...the ball is stripped by a couple of UCLA defenders and appears to go off of one of the Bruin players.

Nevertheless, officials awarded the ball to the Bruins with :18 left. Bruins work the ball around, ball is in Josh Shipp's hands......he drives the baseline and tosses up what appears to be a shot from behind the backboard (which is, of course, illegal at just about any level of basketball). Ball sails over the backboard......swish with :07 left.

Cal races down the court, and after getting the ball knocked out with :0.7 left, inbounds the ball and misses a potential game winning shot.

Final, irreversible result..........UCLA 81, Cal 80.

Twice in 3 days the Bruins have benefitted from highly suspect (at best) officiating. That is sad, because I have a lot of respect and admiration for what UCLA has accomplished on its own over the years.

[Hail Red & White]

Stanford and California were probably victims of "home cookin'" in the waning stages of their games against the Bruins. As the days in the interlude leading up to the Pac-10 tourney unfold, I wonder what the league's position on the video evidence and commentary from around the country will bring. Except for Oregon State, I expect some pretty competitive games at the Staples Center, and despite what the college hoops experts are saying now, the only solid teams to make the tournament from this league are UCLA, Stanford, and Washington State. After that, you can make a case for four other teams that all sport some solid wins and questionable losses this year. There might not be much to distinguish Oregon from Arizona or Arizona State from USC. Will the Selection Committee adopt the "might as well take all 4 of them" attitude, or "if you leave one off, you have to leave all of them off" policy? Could Arizona be this year's version of Missouri State 2006?

[outpost]

Stanford and California were probably victims of "home cookin'" in the waning stages of their games against the Bruins. As the days in the interlude leading up to the Pac-10 tourney unfold, I wonder what the league's position on the video evidence and commentary from around the country will bring. Except for Oregon State, I expect some pretty competitive games at the Staples Center, and despite what the college hoops experts are saying now, the only solid teams to make the tournament from this league are UCLA, Stanford, and Washington State. After that, you can make a case for four other teams that all sport some solid wins and questionable losses this year. There might not be much to distinguish Oregon from Arizona or Arizona State from USC. Will the Selection Committee adopt the "might as well take all 4 of them" attitude, or "if you leave one off, you have to leave all of them off" policy? Could Arizona be this year's version of Missouri State 2006?

But doesn't this violate the Selection Committee's philosophy of "teams are selected, not conferences".......?

[Hail Red & White]

But doesn't this violate the Selection Committee's philosophy of "teams are selected, not conferences".......?

Philosophy, basketball, common sense...a triad of disaster when confronted with human beings! Actually, I think for many schools it will come down to their non-conference schedules and how they fared against it compared to other teams under consideration. At this time of year, it's comical and frustrating to hear basketball gurus saying "this team is a lock to get in" or "they've still got work to do", based on their conference affiliation. Admittedly, this year, the analysts seem to be getting away from that trend and looking moreso at the team itself, rather than where they play the majority of their games.