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Keita44
03-08-2008, 08:33 AM
Creighton fans sure are excited here in St. Louis this morning. They don't think Drake will be able to beat them for the third time in a year today.

I agree with them. Drake doesn't have the depth that Creighton has, and if Creighton gets hot early, it could be over quickly.

Creighton 89
Drake 78

shaun white
03-08-2008, 09:49 AM
"...don't think Drake will be able to beat them for the third time in a year..."

thats what i thought yesterday:cursing:

this wont be a cake walk, drake seems relentless on O
CU has to keep up the scoring pace (read 'dont be streaky')
keep up the D pressure and not allow m&mecker the open 3ball... or the lane for that matter...or just dont let him get the ball period.:fear:

good luck jays

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 10:55 AM
:bulldogs::bulldogs::bulldogs:

Please win today. Please win.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 11:39 AM
The officials are Gerry Pollard, Mike Sanzere, and Paul Janssen.

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 11:41 AM
The officials are Gerry Pollard, Mike Sanzere, and Paul Janssen.

LMAO :lol:

Have fun with that poo crew.

shockball
03-08-2008, 11:49 AM
The officials are Gerry Pollard, Mike Sanzere, and Paul Janssen.


Don't do anything suspiciously. :doh:

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 11:51 AM
Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else find it weird seeing so many Drake fans in St. Louis? Just kinda funny..

Especially since the ones they just showed were all under the age of 50.. :lol:

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 11:59 AM
Drake leads 5-4, 15:00+ left in the 1st.

Drake is 2-8 shooting, 1-5 on 3's.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:07 PM
Creighton leads 16-13, 11:11 left in the 1st.

CU outrebounding DU 10-4.

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 12:08 PM
The commercial on FSN still says Barry is the head coach at MSU..

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:16 PM
CU leads 19-17, 7:40 left in the 1st.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:16 PM
The commercial on FSN still says Barry is the head coach at MSU..

:lol:

I was wondering if they'd pull that commercial if Barry got fired. Guess not.

shockball
03-08-2008, 12:19 PM
20-19 Bulldogs

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:24 PM
DU leads 22-19, 3:59 left.

CU has gone 6+ minutes since their last field goal.

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Hahahaha..

What a crybaby thug.

P'God gets T'ed up..

Surprise, surprise..

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Stinnett with a technical with 2:46 left. He now has 3 fouls. And Drake can't hit a free throw.

JSMBulldog
03-08-2008, 12:30 PM
What a sandy vagina that P'Allen Stinnett is. I'm going to enjoy watching him melt down for the next four years. This kid is the antithesis of an Adam Emmenecker or Josh Young.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:31 PM
Stinnett is a dual threat: Basketball punter/Mouthpiece chucker :grin:

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Stinnett is a dual threat: Basketball punter/Mouthpiece chucker :grin:

Haha.. and bench warmer.. :clap:

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 12:32 PM
30-21 DU. Under 40 ticks left in the 1st..

Nice goin Bulldogs. Keep it up.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:34 PM
Drake leads 30-21 at halftime. DU closes the half on a 16-2 run.

shockball
03-08-2008, 12:47 PM
Halftime stats.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=280682181

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 12:59 PM
Drake leads 36-31, 14:00+ left.

CU came out with 7 points in the first 90 seconds. Both offenses have been pretty dormant since then.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 01:10 PM
Drake leads 45-41, 11:32 left.

DU is rebounding better, and CU is shooting better.

shockball
03-08-2008, 01:10 PM
45-41 DU. 11:32 left. Mitch does a great job announcing these games.

shockball
03-08-2008, 01:16 PM
They call the charge on Houston but not the moving screens on Watts.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 01:20 PM
Drake leads 54-46, 7:38 left.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Young and Dotzler collide. Time out to search for Dotzler's tooth.:sick:

Dotzler and Young are off to the locker rooms.

Creighton fans are booing Josh Young? :confused1:

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Young comes right back in the game.

Chairman of the Boards
03-08-2008, 01:33 PM
Fun game to watch. Drake has the pieces to make a nice run in March. Watching P'Allen on the line... he has first-team ears... the left ear is All Valley. Oops, now P'Allen takes one to the grapes!
:jays::bulldogs:

shockball
03-08-2008, 01:43 PM
AE drops in 2 free throws. 2:34 left. 68-58 Bulldogs.

iSASO
03-08-2008, 01:46 PM
If the officiating was equal in this Tournament, Altman would have 12 technicals in this game alone.

shockball
03-08-2008, 01:52 PM
Congrats Bullodgs.:bulldogs:

MetDrakeFan
03-08-2008, 01:53 PM
Drake wins! First championship appearance in SCHOOL HISTORY!

Chairman of the Boards
03-08-2008, 01:58 PM
Congratulations Drake... good performance today. It's easy to cheer for you... classy bunch of players that deserve a chance to play for a ring tomorrow. I just hope the committee doesn't shut the rest of us out of the big dance.

:bulldogs:
:valley:

JerryBearSeinfeld
03-08-2008, 02:40 PM
does CU have a chance at the NCAA tourny?

i dont think they do.

gutwrencher
03-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Just got back from Boston's in Clive. GREAT and loud crowd once again. Tomorrow should be awesome too. Mecha, you should come down.

Bring on the winner.....I don't even care who it is, although I'd like to see the Redbirds dispatched by the cats and have an all Iowa Championship battle.

The Bulldogs, God, are we freakin' awesome as hell or what?

Not impressed yet? Fine by me.:bulldogs::bulldogs::bulldogs:

shockball
03-08-2008, 02:51 PM
The doctor said, "Joe, the good news is, I can cure your headaches. The bad news is that it will require castration. You have a very rare condition, which causes your testicles to press on your spine, and the pressure creates one hell of a headache. The only way to relieve the pressure is to remove the testicles."

Joe was shocked and depressed. He wondered if he had anything left to live for but he had no choice but to go under the knife.

When he left the hospital, he was without a headache for the first time in 20 years, but he felt like he was missing an important part of himself. As he walked down the street, he realized that he felt like a different person. He could make a new beginning and live a new life. He saw a men's clothing store and thought, ”That's what I need... a new suit."

He entered the shop and told the salesman, ”I'd like a new suit." The elderly tailor eyed him briefly and said, "Let's see, size 44 long." Joe laughed, "That's right, how did you know?"

"Been in the business 60 years!" the tailor said.

Joe tried on the suit, it fit perfectly. As Joe admired himself in the mirror, the salesman asked, "How about a new shirt?" Joe thought for a moment and then said, "Sure."

The salesman eyed Joe and said, "Let's see, 34 sleeves and 16-1/2 neck."
Joe was surprised, "That's right, how did you know?"

"Been in the business 60 years."

Joe tried on the shirt, and it fit perfectly. Joe walked comfortably around the shop, and the salesman asked, "How about some new underwear?"

Joe thought for a moment and said, "Sure." The salesman said, "Let's see... size 36."

Joe laughed, "Ah ha! I got you; I've worn a size 34 since I was 18 years old."

The salesman shook his head, "You can't wear a size 34. A size 34 would press your testicles up against the base of your spine, and give you one hell of a headache."

New suit - $400
New shirt - $36
New underwear - $6
Second Opinion - PRICELESS

goaces
03-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Great game by both teams. Drake is just a totally unselfish team which makes them so fun for me to watch. Would not at all be surprised if they make it to the sweet sixteen. Go Bulldogs. :valley::bulldogs::aces:

blueblood
03-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Young comes right back in the game.

and thus the booing. 3 Drake players with acting like career ending injuries. Games stops for all 3 . And all 3 reenter the game at the first opportunity. None were out 1 minute. Looked staged.


Good Luck Drake.

MetDrakeFan
03-08-2008, 03:41 PM
and thus the booing. 3 Drake players with acting like career ending injuries. Games stops for all 3 . And all 3 reenter the game at the first opportunity. None were out 1 minute. Looked staged.

Good Luck Drake.

No excuse AT ALL for the booing. If they get in a serious collision, what do you expect them to act like? These guys are all playing really hard, and a collision like that hurts. They probably wanted to check on him to make sure he was ok. And they booed him as he was going off the court, not coming back.

shockball
03-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Another double double for AE.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=280682181
:bulldogs:

JSMBulldog
03-08-2008, 04:07 PM
Nah, they just must be tougher than their blue counterparts they played today. I highly doubt Josh Young or Adam Emmenecker "PRETENDED" to get hurt. They aren't clowns or cheaters. They're some of the classiest young men in Division 1 basketball. No basketball kicking or mouthguard chucking from either of them. Just good grades and W's.

I believe Stinnett had a similar "hip" injury where he stopped the game. If you watched, he just reached in and fell on the ground. The diva must've known his TV time for the year was almost over.

gutwrencher
03-08-2008, 05:18 PM
Looked staged.

That's the dumbest thing I've read on this board in oh, one day.

Damn cheaters.

:valley: = :bulldogs:

drakeguy
03-08-2008, 05:59 PM
and thus the booing. 3 Drake players with acting like career ending injuries. Games stops for all 3 . And all 3 reenter the game at the first opportunity. None were out 1 minute. Looked staged.


Good Luck Drake.

Would you like some cheese with that wine. Really??? You think a hard hit on the floor, that could have probably be called a flargrant foul was an act??? Really???

Gotta love the P'Allen comment on his acting about an injured hip to get an extra timeout. As much as AE and the other two players you supposedly say "acting injured" were season ending, hell with P'Allens acting job probably meant his career was over. He probably should go throw his mouth piece one more time. Hopefully this time he hits you and knocks some sense in you.

In honesty, minus you comment, it was a hard fought game by two good solid teams. They both came to play, but Drake showed up at the end.

Go Bulldogs!

tmmroy
03-08-2008, 06:28 PM
and thus the booing. 3 Drake players with acting like career ending injuries. Games stops for all 3 . And all 3 reenter the game at the first opportunity. None were out 1 minute. Looked staged.


Good Luck Drake.

You did notice the tape all over Young's arm? The tape that wasn't there before he went out of the game? It's not that they wanted him out, he was bleeding, and not allowed to play.

P.S. Get glasses if you have trouble seeing white tape on a black guy's arm.

jaypharmalum
03-08-2008, 06:56 PM
Hahahaha..
What a crybaby thug.
P'God gets T'ed up..
Surprise, surprise..

I think he took his mouthpiece out to yell "FOUL".

Seriously, congrats to Drake on three hard fought wins against CU this year. But someone please tell me Drake fans weren't chanting "NIT" at the end?

tmmroy
03-08-2008, 06:58 PM
I think that was probably one of the times we were chanting MVP, showing our idea of what the POY award is about.

jaypharmalum
03-08-2008, 07:00 PM
I think that was probably one of the time we were chanting MVP, showing our idea of what the POY award is about.

Is there a list yet published for possible Keno replacements? Is there any way Drake can afford to keep him?

go bluejayss
03-08-2008, 07:32 PM
Anyways, back to the game. The part that ruined us was when the refs made 2 horrible calls in a row. The no foul when kenton was going to dunk it, and then when it looked like a goaltend on the other end. He may not have touched the ball, but seriously it looked like he altered the shot. Well whatever Good game drake :jays::bulldogs:

shockball
03-08-2008, 07:54 PM
The announcers said the chant was MVP.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 09:04 PM
and thus the booing. 3 Drake players with acting like career ending injuries. Games stops for all 3 . And all 3 reenter the game at the first opportunity. None were out 1 minute. Looked staged.


Good Luck Drake.

Creighton fans were booing Young as he went to the locker room. So unless the CU fans had collective ESP to know he was coming right back out...

Mecha_Bulldog
03-08-2008, 09:05 PM
Just got back from Boston's in Clive. GREAT and loud crowd once again. Tomorrow should be awesome too. Mecha, you should come down.

I'll be watching the final from a slightly closer location :grin:

I'll probably be the Drake fan running laps with my small children on the concourse at the Scottrade Center.

blueblood
03-08-2008, 09:28 PM
Creighton fans were booing Young as he went to the locker room. So unless the CU fans had collective ESP to know he was coming right back out...

He was back on the court trying to check back in as Korver was shooting the foul shot for him.

drakeguy
03-08-2008, 10:21 PM
Is there a list yet published for possible Keno replacements? Is there any way Drake can afford to keep him?

Yeah, it is called loyalty. Keno has it, Drake has it, and thats all that really matters. 5 years from now we will see, but now I am not worried.

drakeguy
03-08-2008, 10:24 PM
Anyways, back to the game. The part that ruined us was when the refs made 2 horrible calls in a row. The no foul when kenton was going to dunk it, and then when it looked like a goaltend on the other end. He may not have touched the ball, but seriously it looked like he altered the shot. Well whatever Good game drake :jays::bulldogs:

Until you see that block in replay, I probably wouldn't complain. It looked like a clean block from the tv. Also on the "so called goaltend", again replay before compalin. If we disagree after that so be it, but until then it is what it is. :bulldogs:

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 11:34 PM
But someone please tell me Drake fans weren't chanting "NIT" at the end?

I wish that would've been true. Poetic justice at its finest.

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 11:36 PM
:bulldogs::bulldogs:

Way ta go Drake!!!

Congrats on the beating of the BJ's!! You deserve it!

Looks like no 'BJ Invitational' this year.. :banana:

BTW.. P'God continues to prove each and every game how much of a class act he is.. :clap::clap::clap::banana::banana::bounceblue: :naughty:

outpost
03-08-2008, 11:45 PM
Anyways, back to the game. The part that ruined us was when the refs made 2 horrible calls in a row. The no foul when kenton was going to dunk it, and then when it looked like a goaltend on the other end. He may not have touched the ball, but seriously it looked like he altered the shot. Well whatever Good game drake :jays::bulldogs:

Sounds vaguely familiar....oh, wait.....at least you got to keep your coach on the sidelines....

Congrats Drake. :bulldogs:

CU fans, will you get a home NIT game?

WSUbballer
03-08-2008, 11:55 PM
CU fans, will you get a home NIT game?

If they do, what are the odds Dana throws a tantrum at the end of the game amidst flying cups of beer on the Quiet Center floor?

Nyghtewynd
03-09-2008, 08:41 AM
Word out of Kiel this morning...

Marshall just got another technical while eating breakfast. Mental note: don't put too much salt on his eggs.

outpost
03-09-2008, 09:15 AM
Word out of Kiel this morning...

Marshall just got another technical while eating breakfast. Mental note: don't put too much salt on his eggs.

I can scoop you on that one.....stepping off of the plane at Mid-Continent Airport, I will predict tat he gets T'ed up by an FAA official.....something about too many ounces of shampoo in his carry-on.......

jaypharmalum
03-09-2008, 09:51 AM
If they do, what are the odds Dana throws a tantrum at the end of the game amidst flying cups of beer on the Quiet Center floor?

I'll bet you a dollar Dana never gets kicked out of a game.

blueness
03-09-2008, 09:52 AM
If they do, what are the odds Dana throws a tantrum at the end of the game amidst flying cups of beer on the Quiet Center floor?


Yes, they will most likely have a NIT home game at the Qwest on that Tuesday...probably against Nebraska (unless they eat one against Colorado today or lose the first game in the Big12Tourney)

For clarification, the CU-Miami game from a few years back was the most "sober" crowd in Qwest Center history...there were no beer cups thrown on the floor because, well, no alcohol was served during that game.
:grin:

WSUbballer
03-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Word out of Kiel this morning...

Marshall just got another technical while eating breakfast. Mental note: don't put too much salt on his eggs.

What's this 'Kiel' you're referring to, old timer?

WSUbballer
03-09-2008, 11:32 AM
I'll bet you a dollar Dana never gets kicked out of a game.

Ya, no kidding there. Dana owns the referee crews.

WSUbballer
03-09-2008, 11:33 AM
For clarification, the CU-Miami game from a few years back was the most "sober" crowd in Qwest Center history...there were no beer cups thrown on the floor because, well, no alcohol was served during that game.
:grin:

Must've been Pepsi cups then.. :original:

creightonfever
03-09-2008, 05:51 PM
:bulldogs::bulldogs::bulldogs:

Please win today. Please win.

You are the epitome of a hypocrite and if you ever try and whine about CU fans always gunning for WSU to lose I think I will throw up in my mouth. Why is it you hijack CU threads again? Oh yeah, its because your team was the 9th seed and couldnt make it past the first round. Oh yeah, and im really sorry that our "human vibrator" got a T. He is a tremendously talented freshman and his emotions get the best of him. Id take him over any freshmen in this league hands down.

AS FOR THE GAME, Drake is good. Damn good. We just cannot finish games, that was a recurring theme for this season. Get a lead and choke. Pretty weird to see so many bulldog fans at the tourney. Refreshing, no doubt. (Even though I was gonna throw up at the sight of so much Duke gear? What was with that?)

And as pissed as I was after the game, I just cant hate you guys. You all are the classiest team in the valley in my opinion and so are your players. They hit the books and they just gel as a team. I have to agree though... I was sitting right behind the DU student section and they were clearly yelling "NIT" ...Never in my life would I expect to hear Drake fans telling me that. :innocent:

3ontheway
03-09-2008, 06:14 PM
just got back from st. lou. 2 things stood out:

Marshall getting thrown out was hilarious

and

Drake is a very good TEAM,

oh, and that alley oop to Slack was probably the best dunk I have ever seen.

Congrats Drake.

outpost
03-09-2008, 08:11 PM
You are the epitome of a hypocrite and if you ever try and whine about CU fans always gunning for WSU to lose I think I will throw up in my mouth. Why is it you hijack CU threads again? Oh yeah, its because your team was the 9th seed and couldnt make it past the first round. Oh yeah, and im really sorry that our "human vibrator" got a T. He is a tremendously talented freshman and his emotions get the best of him. Id take him over any freshmen in this league hands down.

AS FOR THE GAME, Drake is good. Damn good. We just cannot finish games, that was a recurring theme for this season. Get a lead and choke. Pretty weird to see so many bulldog fans at the tourney. Refreshing, no doubt. (Even though I was gonna throw up at the sight of so much Duke gear? What was with that?)

And as pissed as I was after the game, I just cant hate you guys. You all are the classiest team in the valley in my opinion and so are your players. They hit the books and they just gel as a team. I have to agree though... I was sitting right behind the DU student section and they were clearly yelling "NIT" ...Never in my life would I expect to hear Drake fans telling me that. :innocent:

It's comments like this that make me so reluctant to go up to CU's version of "Joe Fan" and shake his /her hand and tell him / her "good game." They're either pissed off and ready to knock someone's block off for looking at them wrong, booing injured opponents who need to be checked out and then back in, or they've thrown up a couple of times during a game....anyone who goes up to the average Bluebird fan during or after a game does so at the risk of his life.

Dawg_tired
03-09-2008, 08:23 PM
Couple things from the DU/CU game.

The reason Young went to the locker room was that the trainer was concerned that he might have a piece of tooth under his skin and that can cause a really nasty infection.

Creighton will be a better team if P Allen transfers....which I heard a rumor that he's thinking about it. He does not represent the Jays well. Well unless it's a mouth piece throwing contest.

Keita44
03-09-2008, 09:03 PM
Couple things from the DU/CU game.

The reason Young went to the locker room was that the trainer was concerned that he might have a piece of tooth under his skin and that can cause a really nasty infection.

Creighton will be a better team if P Allen transfers....which I heard a rumor that he's thinking about it. He does not represent the Jays well. Well unless it's a mouth piece throwing contest.

The sign in the Drake student section was right.....P'Allen is a P'tool.

He has a lot of talent, but is a "me" player, not a team player. He talks so much trash during the game, both to the other team and to the refs.

To add to DT's list, he is also very good as a punter.

WSUbballer
03-10-2008, 01:11 AM
You are the epitome of a hypocrite and if you ever try and whine about CU fans always gunning for WSU to lose I think I will throw up in my mouth. Why is it you hijack CU threads again? Oh yeah, its because your team was the 9th seed and couldnt make it past the first round. Oh yeah, and im really sorry that our "human vibrator" got a T. He is a tremendously talented freshman and his emotions get the best of him. Id take him over any freshmen in this league hands down.

Gee, I didn't realize cheering for the other team was considered 'hijacking'..

This is a CU thread? Sorry, but you can't take all the credit. It's a DU thread too and I enjoy DU's success.. Don't come crying to me just because your BJ Invitational was ruined by a better team.. :shutup:

I think someone is a bit pissy about the season and the big fat L.

Good name for P'God.. the 'human vibrator'. Fits him well. I don't think I'd take P'God. Too much excess baggage that cancels out the talent. He'd make a good living on the And 1 Tour though.. I don't think the college game is much to his liking.

Enjoy the NIT. Make sure Dana doesn't go ape on us.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 08:31 AM
Young and Dotzler collide. Time out to search for Dotzler's tooth.:sick:

Dotzler and Young are off to the locker rooms.

Creighton fans are booing Josh Young? :confused1:

Young comes right back in the game.

and thus the booing.

I call bullshat here...the Creighton fans were booing Young as he headed for the locker room.

His elbow was bleeding, and they wanted to check to make sure that none of Dotzler's tooth was still embedded in his elbow....and possibly to get a stitch or two

Even if he hadn't gone to the locker room, he probably couldn't have shot the free throws due to blood.

And.....Young is a 75%+ free throw shooter...it's not like he was some bricklayer and Drake was trying to pull a fast one.

Bird
03-10-2008, 08:41 AM
I was right in front of the play and I think we (at least me) were booing the call, not Josh Young.

ShockRef
03-10-2008, 08:49 AM
DUBulldog is 110% correct in the CU fans were actually booing Young. I turned around and and stared in disbelief. Some of CU's fans are true morons.
P'Boy does run his mouth for much of the game and portrayed himself as an idiot for the mouthpiece deal. We were sitting right behind the CU bench and Dana ripped him a good one during the TO. However, his own team mates aren't too thrilled with him either. During one TO he got in Lawson's face to which Lawson told him to "Shut up and get the f*@# out of my face!" It was one time that he followed instructions to the letter. :original:

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 08:49 AM
I was right in front of the play and I think we (at least me) were booing the call, not Josh Young.

I can buy that...up to a point....but, the booing seemed to intensify as Young was heading to the locker room and Keno was trying to figure out who to put in to shoot the free throws.

Creighton is going to be a very, very good team the next couple of years.

SouthLoop
03-10-2008, 09:10 AM
I was in the CU section and, yes, there appeared to be be some Jays fans booing Young as he walked off. It was disgusting but not reflective of the section as a whole who seemed to be directing their displeasure at the officials. Nevertheless, they should have waited until Young had left the court. Sunday's CU crowd around the Drake locker room entrance seemed to be squarely behind DU, however.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 09:15 AM
I was in the CU section and, yes, there appeared to be be some Jays fans booing Young as he walked off. It was disgusting but not reflective of the section as a whole who seemed to be directing their displeasure at the officials. Nevertheless, they should have waited until Young had left the court. Sunday's CU crowd around the Drake locker room entrance seemed to be squarely behind DU, however.

I was sitting very close to the Creighton section on Sunday, and could definitely tell they were pulling for the 'dogs....they were even wearing the right colors. :original:

And....SouthLoop....wow, you've been registered on this board since March of 2006, and you just made your first post today.

creightonfever
03-10-2008, 09:34 AM
Josh getting his tooth out was accidental... ( I feel bad for the kid however, Ive heard on the radio that one fell out and the other was lodged in the roof of his mouth)

But because he was hurt so bad and looked to me like he had a concussion or something, I was booing the call. I was absolutely not booing Josh Young and neither were the people around me, so I dont know who made that up. I thought the play was a charge, and one of those refs in particular seems to hate CU I was P-OED!

creightonfever
03-10-2008, 09:49 AM
Creighton will be a better team if P Allen transfers....which I heard a rumor that he's thinking about it. He does not represent the Jays well. Well unless it's a mouth piece throwing contest.

That is the funniest rumor I have ever heard. Just because the kid has some tattoos, plays a different style of basketball, and has been T'd up, he is transferring...

This was brought up in the middle of the season and it seems like other fans only look at P'Allen when he throws a fit. He has made such tremendous progress with his attitude. And hell, on Saturday he was pissed because he wanted to win badly. Who didnt? He is the best talent to come to this league in a very long time, and you think it would help us if he transferred? He is very close with Dana.. and Dana will go off on him when he needs to, and he has. He has also been quoted in the paper saying "Team not me" that was the mantra of this season. And I cannot tell you how nice he was to my kids in St Louis.. he stuck around for hours just making these kids day. He even gave a pair of his shoes to some random kid... all Im saying is people need to stop with the comments about P'Allen. No one hates it more than CU fans because we know hes been working on it, and then he lets himself go. Hes workin on it.

cufan
03-10-2008, 10:22 AM
First, no one boo'ed Josh Young anywhere near where I was at. We were pissed at the call. Most thought it was a charge, and most also thought he was passing the ball instead of shooting so they also boo'ed the two free throws awarded. Comments were directed squarely at Jensen. My seats were right on the entrance where the Drake players came out, and no one booed him as he left the floor. Period. Most were too busy cheering for Dotzler as he was escorted down the tunnel. I never even saw Young leave the court. I thought he checked right back in while Korver was shooting his free throws for him. You may have also noticed that a large number of the CU fans surrounding the Drake entrance stood and clapped as the Drake players came off the court. My two kids even stood along the rail and slapped hands as the players left the court.

Second, P may play the game with a lot of emotion, but off the court he is as polite and respectful as anyone. He is a nice young man. I am flat going to enjoy watching the guy perform over the next several years. Your next three years are going to be pure torture. :lol: And the rumor of transfer was nothing more than the musings of a lame-a** local radio host trying to drum up interest in his show.

Third, Drake's student section was about as lame as I have seen in many, many years at the tourney. Maybe when they get out of the quarter finals again in about another 20 years they will have another chance to represent.

I would also note that the vast majority of Creighton fans (who by the way outnumbered Drake fans at the championship game by about 2 to 1) were cheering for Drake - although I think most would have liked to see Ill. State play better.

Forgot to mention: Hands down best deal in the house is the chicken strips and fries basket. With 5 or six good sized chicken strips and a good portion of fries for $8 or so. Good enough to feed a family of four.

Mecha_Bulldog
03-10-2008, 10:29 AM
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Bird
03-10-2008, 10:45 AM
Although the outcomde stunk, the highlight of the CU/DU game was when Kyle Korver was a trivia answer on the scoreboard and the DU students started chanting "Klayton's Better". Hilarious stuff.

tmmroy
03-10-2008, 10:50 AM
I was at the game and have to say that it sort of seemed like CU fans were booing Young as he walked off the court. But they could have been booing the refs or some of both, since nothing in "boo" tells you exactly what people are booing at. I'll just say that at the time I thought it was directed at Josh, but that I wasn't sure, if only because I generally expect more of CU fans then that.

shockball
03-10-2008, 10:57 AM
This could be the same guy.

OMAHA, NE–Creighton University sophomore Adam Wilmut is under the mistaken impression that he managed to masturbate Tuesday without waking roommate and top-bunk occupant Scott Engram. "For about 10 minutes, I could feel the loft frame vibrating slightly," the 19-year-old Engram said. "Then, the vibrating escalated just a tiny bit for about 30 seconds before stopping altogether." The incident marked the fifth time in as many days that Wilmut's stealth masturbation was detected.

DoubleJayAlum
03-10-2008, 11:54 AM
The booing was directed at the offiicial. We were incensed that Dotzler got run over, knocked unconscious and had his teeth knocked out, yet was still called for the foul.

I can't beleive Shocker fans are on here talking about Stinnett's technical. You do realize your coach got two techs called on him and is the only coach to have been thrown out of a tournament game right? I hope the same analysis you use toward a player called with a technical is used when evaluating the actions of a coach. By the way, the same ref called P's and one of Marshall's techicals (Sanzere).

P' was pissed because he got shoved under the chairs where the Bulldog players were sitting, yet no foul was called. No excuse to throw the mouth piece, but a pretty bad bit of officiating nonetheless.

Cdizzle
03-10-2008, 12:02 PM
This was brought up in the middle of the season and it seems like other fans only look at P'Allen when he throws a fit.


Really? I guess I haven't taken my class on double-standards yet, so I'll leave it to the resident expert.

Hunter
03-10-2008, 01:21 PM
Third, Drake's student section was about as lame as I have seen in many, many years at the tourney. Maybe when they get out of the quarter finals again in about another 20 years they will have another chance to represent.

Agreed. I understand that they just recently started attending basketball games, but I thought their collective IQ would be higher than that. CU fans were booing the call, not Josh Young. Give us some credit. LJ pointed it out perfectly in another thread. With the way I was treated by some Drake students in Des Moines and St. Louis, you would think they have been perennial MVC contenders and NCAA regulars for the past 50 years. I realize it could just be a minority, but it is a real turn off. I never thought I would see the day when I could despise a Drake fan as much as a Wichita fan.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 01:42 PM
With the way I was treated by some Drake students in Des Moines

Sorry to hear that, although I saw none of it. There are a few bad eggs in every fanbase and if it shows itself here at the Knapp, most of us long time rabid fans do not approve. In fact, we have been on our own students just for using the word bull****. We love our students.....but even WE say something about it IF it's ever a problem.

At the Knappster CU game, I had a hard time focusing on the students, as we were pretty much glued to the upstairs Jay pair who were screaming **** the Drake and blow it out yer *** to Drake fans as they passed by. Students(young punks) are one thing....but middle aged men with tons of facial hair? Blow it out yer ***? *** is with that? I remember what they look like. Pull that **** next year, and I'll draw the line....personally.

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D Fast
03-10-2008, 01:53 PM
but a pretty bad bit of officiating nonetheless.

El oh el! I love all these "the refs blew it" comments. The Refs BLEW the UCLA game for not understanding the rules. There were no was "blown" rule violations in the CU DU game.

Everyone needs a scape goat I suppose...........

Ricky Del Rio
03-10-2008, 02:04 PM
He has a lot of talent, but is a "me" player, not a team player. He talks so much trash during the game, both to the other team and to the refs.



I concur.

Ricky Del Rio
03-10-2008, 02:06 PM
I call bullshat here...the Creighton fans were booing Young as he headed for the locker room.

His elbow was bleeding, and they wanted to check to make sure that none of Dotzler's tooth was still embedded in his elbow....and possibly to get a stitch or two

Even if he hadn't gone to the locker room, he probably couldn't have shot the free throws due to blood.

And.....Young is a 75%+ free throw shooter...it's not like he was some bricklayer and Drake was trying to pull a fast one.

Please discontinue speaking with facts. It messes up some of the arcane arguments.

Ricky Del Rio
03-10-2008, 02:52 PM
1. I enjoyed the Blue Bird v. Bull Dog game most of all.

2. When the Dawgs started taking the air out of the ball with about 6:30 to go, I told Miz Rio that there will be trouble for the Dawgs in the last minute or so. Gawd, I wuz so right on.

The Blue Birds were down one and forced a turnover with less than a minute to go. But damn! The Birds turned it over without getting off a shot.

I call this moment the Rio Turning Point of the Game.

The Dawgs got themselves into a playing not to lose situation and panic set in. The Dawgs were befuddled by the Blue Bird scramble press. It was very admirable play by the Birds. I actually found myself pulling for the Jays because they did not quit and I admired their grit.

Prior to the '09 tournament, I will take an antedote for the misguided Jay support moment.

3. Coach Altman is by far the most courageous coach in the tournament. He actually puts #3, #10 and #14 in the game at the same time, when the rules will not allow more than one ball to be used at a time for play.

#3 is Woodfox, I think. #10 is P'God. #14 is the guy with the clown stockings.

4. P'God single handedly ran the Blue Birds out of the game in the first ten minutes of play. He did so with his selfish, self aggrandizing, foul and turnover plagued play. He was on a mission to make Sports Center's top ten, but failed miserably.

He is talented, but like Jamar, you have a head case on your hands.

5. I remember well the crap that the Blue Birds shoved up the Shockers in 2003-2005 over playing in the NIT. I wonder, if the Blue Birds will shove the same crap up their own @sses. Just wondering.

6. As I have said many times, Dane Watts is the man. While #10 thinks he is the man, he is nothing without Dane Watts. Watts is just damn solid. I saw both CU games and I followed his play a lot. He just plays smart, hard and effective. I only saw one dumb thing out of him and I think it was a frustration foul. He really clobbered a Drake big man.

7. My favorite St. Louis Post-Dispatch headline was "No Fake Drake." This headline appeared the morning after the Blue Bird game.

8. Whenever I see the Blue Bird cheerleaders/dance team, I always think of Vogue Magazine. (Yes, this is a compliment.)

9. The Drake scheme is perfect for one of my most unfavorite players - Clayton Korver. (I spell Clayton with a C.) Other than making wide open three balls, he has no talent. He could not guard a statue. Fortunately, he can stand around in the Drake zone defense and guard an area and get a lot of help.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 02:52 PM
The booing was directed at the offiicial. We were incensed that Dotzler got run over, knocked unconscious and had his teeth knocked out, yet was still called for the foul.

I just finished watching tape of the game. Yes, Dotzler definitely got the worst of the collision, but it certainly didn't look like he was in defensive position when Young left his feet, so I think it was a good call by the official.

Maybe it was just coincidence, but the volume of the booing definitely increased as Young was being taken to the locker room. It's funny how we see things differently from our different perspectives. I was so focused on Young that I didn't even realize that Dotzler had also been taken to the locker room. And I'm guessing a lot of CU fans were so focused on Dotzler that they didn't realize that Young had gone to the locker room.

What was strange is that the announcers never explained to the audience why it was Korver shooting free throws, not Young.

blueblood
03-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Yes there was booing. Let me make another attempt at why.

At an earlier point of the game a Drake player (I think 31) went up for a shot and CU came away with the ball, no call, and CU was off on a fast break. 31 went down. As CU was off on the fast break he was 20 steps behind. Ref Jenson stopped the game with his whistle because he thought 31 was injured. When he saw that 31 was fine, play resumed. The CU fast break was lost. 31 stayed in the game.

Emmacker went down later. Play was stopped to make sure he was OK. He stayed in the game.

Throw on top of that the Dozler Young collision. CU fans think its a bad call. CU fans see Young leave and then soon after try to reenter to shoot his own free throws. Obvious the injury to Young can't be too bad. CU fans see Dotzler still holding his face trying to hold his teeth in. Its Jenson that makes all 3 calls.

You get boos. Not game deciding. No influence on the game. CU booed the bulldogs and the refs. Thats it. Thats basketball.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 03:25 PM
P Allen doesnot represent CU well. Anyway you look at it he was a punk on national television. Is that really how you want your program represented. He's selfish and you will not be a great team with him on the team. Punks don't make good team mates.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 03:27 PM
1. I enjoyed the Blue Bird v. Bull Dog game most of all.

2. When the Dawgs started taking the air out of the ball with about 6:30 to go, I told Miz Rio that there will be trouble for the Dawgs in the last minute or so. Gawd, I wuz so right on.

The Blue Birds were down one and forced a turnover with less than a minute to go. But damn! The Birds turned it over without getting off a shot.

I call this moment the Rio Turning Point of the Game.

The Dawgs got themselves into a playing not to lose situation and panic set in. The Dawgs were befuddled by the Blue Bird scramble press. It was very admirable play by the Birds. I actually found myself pulling for the Jays because they did not quit and I admired their grit.

Prior to the '09 tournament, I will take an antedote for the misguided Jay support moment.

3. Coach Altman is by far the most courageous coach in the tournament. He actually puts #3, #10 and #14 in the game at the same time, when the rules will not allow more than one ball to be used at a time for play.

#3 is Woodfox, I think. #10 is P'God. #14 is the guy with the clown stockings.

4. P'God single handedly ran the Blue Birds out of the game in the first ten minutes of play. He did so with his selfish, self aggrandizing, foul and turnover plagued play. He was on a mission to make Sports Center's top ten, but failed miserably.

He is talented, but like Jamar, you have a head case on your hands.

5. I remember well the crap that the Blue Birds shoved up the Shockers in 2003-2005 over playing in the NIT. I wonder, if the Blue Birds will shove the same crap up their own @sses. Just wondering.

6. As I have said many times, Dane Watts is the man. While #10 thinks he is the man, he is nothing without Dane Watts. Watts is just damn solid. I saw both CU games and I followed his play a lot. He just plays smart, hard and effective. I only saw one dumb thing out of him and I think it was a frustration foul. He really clobbered a Drake big man.

7. My favorite St. Louis Post-Dispatch headline was "No Fake Drake." This headline appeared the morning after the Blue Bird game.

8. Whenever I see the Blue Bird cheerleaders/dance team, I always think of Vogue Magazine. (Yes, this is a compliment.)

9. The Drake scheme is perfect for one of my most unfavorite players - Clayton Korver. (I spell Clayton with a C.) Other than making wide open three balls, he has no talent. He could not guard a statue. Fortunately, he can stand around in the Drake zone defense and guard an area and get a lot of help.


Your least favorite player is a starter on an NCAA team. Have fun watching.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 03:32 PM
At an earlier point of the game a Drake player (I think 31) went up for a shot and CU came away with the ball, no call, and CU was off on a fast break. 31 went down. As CU was off on the fast break he was 20 steps behind. Ref Jenson stopped the game with his whistle because he thought 31 was injured. When he saw that 31 was fine, play resumed. The CU fast break was lost. 31 stayed in the game.

That was a very strange call by Jansen...definitely didn't think play should have been stopped once Creighton had the ball. But............I definitely think a foul should have been called on the play that sent Cox to the floor. And, is it too hard to know the names of the players on the other team? Especially when they're an all-conference player.

Emmacker went down later. Play was stopped to make sure he was OK. He stayed in the game.

Is it too hard to know the name of the POY in the conference? It's Emmenecker. And yes, play was stopped....because a foul was called on the play. They usually stop play when a foul is called. When the player who is fouled is a little woozy, they sometimes even give him a few seconds to get the cobwebs out. I don't think there was more than 20-30 seconds from when the foul was called until the free throws were shot.

Throw on top of that the Dozler Young collision. CU fans think its a bad call. CU fans see Young leave and then soon after try to reenter to shoot his own free throws. Obvious the injury to Young can't be too bad. CU fans see Dotzler still holding his face trying to hold his teeth in. Its Jenson that makes all 3 calls.

FWIW, Drake fans weren't real happy with Jansen throughout the game either....let's just agree he's not one of our favorite officials.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 03:41 PM
Bluebood....forgot to ask....did you have a chance to spend any quality time with Da Shox? :original:

blueblood
03-10-2008, 03:42 PM
So now i'm supposed to know your payers names? BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO.


They are woosies and i'm not learning their names or how to spell them.

outpost
03-10-2008, 03:57 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but since this tournament was exactly that.......a tournament involving ten teams, not just all about CU v. DU.......I would think that the fan bases could hold themselves to slightly higher standards.

CU fans......you lost, get over it.

I agree with many of you who are bitching about the refs.....WSU got its own dose of BADREF.....but we didn't expect to hang around in the tourney long anyway. We accepted it, although many of us are still scratching our collective heads over Coach Marshall's ejection.

Many of you are laughing your A$Ses off about that one, but at the same time you b!tch and moan and gripe because you get the same dose of BADREF. Talk about double-standards.

After our semi loss vs. Bradley and Paul O'Bryant two years, I looked for the nearest group of Bradley fans, and went up and shook at least a ½-dozen hands.....it sure made me feel better afterwards. Why carry a grudge over something out of your control?

Would it be too much for those of you who haven't done it yet to drop your gloves, count to 10, and throw out a "good game" and :bulldogs: to Drake and it's fans, and move on? It's been two flippin' days already!!!!!!!!!!!!

You aren't going to go undefeated for the rest of your lives!! For the love of Mother Mary......Deal with it!!

Jon 4 the jays
03-10-2008, 05:12 PM
I wish that would've been true. Poetic justice at its finest.

Your team would have to have made it out of Thursday to see such a thing.

ShockRef
03-10-2008, 05:44 PM
The booing was directed at the offiicial. We were incensed that Dotzler got run over, knocked unconscious and had his teeth knocked out, yet was still called for the foul.

I can't beleive Shocker fans are on here talking about Stinnett's technical. You do realize your coach got two techs called on him and is the only coach to have been thrown out of a tournament game right? I hope the same analysis you use toward a player called with a technical is used when evaluating the actions of a coach. By the way, the same ref called P's and one of Marshall's techicals (Sanzere).

P' was pissed because he got shoved under the chairs where the Bulldog players were sitting, yet no foul was called. No excuse to throw the mouth piece, but a pretty bad bit of officiating nonetheless.
Facts, facts, facts.
Here are the facts - sitting 6 feet behind the CU bench.
1) Sanzere did not call the technical on PS. It was Paul Janssen.
2) PS does run is yapper the whole game and needs to zip it. It annoys the officials (not a good idea), the opposing players (not a good idea) and even his team mates.
3) The call against Dotzler was a good one despite the appearance. He did not have legal guarding position and it was clear on the replay.
4) CU fans did boo Young because I turned around and witnessed several pointing at Young at he walked off the floor while voicing their displeasure. I am not saying all or most CU fans were doing it. Just a select few morons.
Those are the facts. :yes:

Hunter
03-10-2008, 05:47 PM
P Allen doesnot represent CU well. Anyway you look at it he was a punk on national television. Is that really how you want your program represented. He's selfish and you will not be a great team with him on the team. Punks don't make good team mates.

Why don't you let Creighton fans make that determination?

Enjoy the NCAAs.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 05:50 PM
Why don't you let Creighton fans make that determination?

Enjoy the NCAAs.


I'm glad he doesn't play for Drake. He's an embarrassment to the Valley. He's a punk. Punk Allen Stinnet.

cbjay
03-10-2008, 07:13 PM
I'm glad he doesn't play for Drake. He's an embarrassment to the Valley. He's a punk. Punk Allen Stinnet.

We appreciate your opinion. He's made a couple of stupid mistakes. He goes to class, is the first one off the bench to congratulate his teammates, is very nice to all the young kids who huddle around him before/after games. As far as I know he has no criminal record, he doesn't violate team rules and Dana (who's not afraid to publicly call out star players, e.g. Buford, Terrell Taylor) appears to like him. Granted, I doubt he'll sit on the bench for the next three years earning four different degrees but I digress. Does he need to mature? Yes. Does he need to understand that the refs are looking for things to call on him? Yes. I'm glad Drake fans, WSU fans and others are looking to throw him off the team. We appreciate your concern. As far as being an embarrassment to the Valley, other than this year that is what we've called Drake for the past decade. Funny how you can make me start to despise my second favorite Valley team.

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 07:37 PM
I'm glad he doesn't play for Drake. He's an embarrassment to the Valley. He's a punk. Punk Allen Stinnet.

Bandwaggoner DT chimes in. Hey DT, how did you like the Lou? Did you go to the train station and watch them make fudge? Will you come back next year when Drake is a 5 or 6 seed? Doubt it.

Ictjay
03-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Facts, facts, facts.
Here are the facts - sitting 6 feet behind the CU bench.
1) Sanzere did not call the technical on PS. It was Paul Janssen.
2) PS does run is yapper the whole game and needs to zip it. It annoys the officials (not a good idea), the opposing players (not a good idea) and even his team mates.
3) The call against Dotzler was a good one despite the appearance. He did not have legal guarding position and it was clear on the replay.
4) CU fans did boo Young because I turned around and witnessed several pointing at Young at he walked off the floor while voicing their displeasure. I am not saying all or most CU fans were doing it. Just a select few morons.
Those are the facts. :yes:


Well put SR. Too bad Dotzler got his chiclets rearranged, but it was a blocking foul. Actually P'Allen was mad because he got undercut on his shot that led up to the loose ball. Check out the tape. Actually happened to him right before that on a pullup in the lane. Part of growing up. He's a enthusiastic kid that can ball. He's not the devil folks.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 08:25 PM
Bandwaggoner DT chimes in. Hey DT, how did you like the Lou? Did you go to the train station and watch them make fudge? Will you come back next year when Drake is a 5 or 6 seed? Doubt it.


Bandwagonner? I've been a season ticket holder since 1979 and a contributor for that long as well. I respond only to poor losers and punks on your team. Go get a tattoo.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 08:26 PM
Well put SR. Too bad Dotzler got his chiclets rearranged, but it was a blocking foul. Actually P'Allen was mad because he got undercut on his shot that led up to the loose ball. Check out the tape. Actually happened to him right before that on a pullup in the lane. Part of growing up. He's a enthusiastic kid that can ball. He's not the devil folks.

So every enthusiastic player should throw something at the scorers table on national TV.

cantbeatthejays
03-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Facts, facts, facts.
Here are the facts - sitting 6 feet behind the CU bench.
1) Sanzere did not call the technical on PS. It was Paul Janssen.
2) PS does run is yapper the whole game and needs to zip it. It annoys the officials (not a good idea), the opposing players (not a good idea) and even his team mates.
3) The call against Dotzler was a good one despite the appearance. He did not have legal guarding position and it was clear on the replay.
4) CU fans did boo Young because I turned around and witnessed several pointing at Young at he walked off the floor while voicing their displeasure. I am not saying all or most CU fans were doing it. Just a select few morons.
Those are the facts. :yes:

How the heck do you know what I was booing about? I was booing at two things-


1) From my vantage point (any my biased opinion), I thought that Young was clearly outta control and ran over Dotzler.
2) I was booing at the same time that Young was coming back in... I wasn't booing at JY- I was booing the fact that the one year wonder was shooting free throws (JY was clearly looking to pass before the collision)

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 08:39 PM
Bandwagonner? I've been a season ticket holder since 1979 and a contributor for that long as well. I respond only to poor losers and punks on your team. Go get a tattoo.

Soooo, how many trips have you made to the Lou for the tourney? Anyone can buy season tickets. How many trips have you made to the Lou for Archmadness? That is the true determinate for a true fan.

I totally respect McBull, I totally respect DUB {and Mrs. DUB who has been there MANY years} and I totally respect the other 10 or 20 DU fans who have followed DU through thick and thin.

I don't respect DU fans who showed up for Archmadness for the first time this year.

Have some fudge.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 08:47 PM
Soooo, how many trips have you made to the Lou for the tourney? Anyone can buy season tickets. How many trips have you made to the Lou for Archmadness? That is the true determinate for a true fan.

I totally respect McBull, I totally respect DUB {and Mrs. DUB who has been there MANY years} and I totally respect the other 10 or 20 DU fans who have followed DU through thick and thin.

I don't respect DU fans who showed up for Archmadness for the first time this year.

Have some fudge.

Screw you loser. You think going to Archmadness is the mark of a true fan. Next time I see you don't even look my way dung hole. I was just on your blowjay cafe. What a bunch of punk losers and you fit right in. I don't respect fans who support a punk on their team. I don't respect fans who tolerate a rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach. I don't respect fans who shake your hand wish you luck and then pull this shat. Kiss my arse.

BTW...ask those fans you respect about what they think of Punk Stinnet.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 08:53 PM
That is the true determinate for a true fan.

Oh my God...that is total horse ****. A big, fat pile of smelly mess.

I don't respect DU fans who showed up for Archmadness for the first time this year

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I thought I had heard it all. Nice.....real nice.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/blowingup.gif

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 08:59 PM
Screw you loser. You think going to Archmadness is the mark of a true fan. Next time I see you don't even look my way dung hole. I was just on your blowjay cafe. What a bunch of punk losers and you fit right in. I don't respect fans who support a punk on their team. I don't respect fans who tolerate a rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach. I don't respect fans who shake your hand wish you luck and then pull this shat. Kiss my arse.

BTW...ask those fans you respect about what they think of Punk Stinnet.

If you think your diatribe will change my mind, you're wrong. I will cheer for the Bulldogs but the truth is, you Keita44, gutwrencher and others have been a-holes who don't know how to act with your whiff of success. You throw shat out about CU players and can't take the jack that comes back at you in return. You have thrown out the same crap that you throw out above for months and when confronted, you act all indignant as if you are some sort of martyr. Holy crap, what a pile.

As a Valley fan, I wish your team success===I think you are a first time in St Louis bandwaggoner who dishes it out consistently FOR YEARS and has paper thin skin in return.

Nyghtewynd
03-10-2008, 08:59 PM
None of Drake's fans care. Go sell some BCI tickets or whatever that third-rate tournament is called.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Quotes from the sore losers on the Blowjay Cafe:

Drake is NOT that good! Keep Emmenecker from getting deep on the drive(force him baseline), and guard the 3 point line to 3 feet beyond. This is where Kenny has to step up and eliminate the drives by putting AE on his butt early(or better yet, reject his a**). We win this game with defense boys!


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I agree with you, BillyBlue. Drake is 23-4 (or whatever) but could easily be 20-7. I think they won a lot of games that could have easily gone either way - like two against the Jays. Keep Emmanecker from the lane and stay home on 3-point shooters and I like our chances. The only problem is that Indiana State didn't make them work hard enough. With 5-6 guys playing extended minutes all season, our depth could have come in very handy. As it is, they will be fairly well rested, but we are due.

Even though this loss shouldn't make me particularly angry, it does... Houston, Korver, and Emmenecker are graduating. I will take joy in the beat downs we will put on them next season.

I have no problem with Creighton fans who win and lose with dignity. Thank you for your kind words. I do have a problem with a coach who allows behavior like Punk Stinnet displays and who renigs on deals. I do have a problem with back stabbing glad handers.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:03 PM
If you think your diatribe will change my mind, you're wrong. I will cheer for the Bulldogs but the truth is, you Keita44, gutwrencher and others have been a-holes who don't know how to act with your whiff of success. You throw shat out about CU players and can't take the jack that comes back at you in return. You have thrown out the same crap that you throw out above for months and when confronted, you act all indignant as if you are some sort of martyr. Holy crap, what a pile.

As a Valley fan, I wish your team success===I think you are a first time in St Louis bandwaggoner who dishes it out consistently FOR YEARS and has paper thin skin in return.

Why didn't you have the testicles to say that to my face?

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Oh my God...that is total horse ****. A big, fat pile of smelly mess.



http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

I thought I had heard it all. Nice.....real nice.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/blowingup.gif

Where have you been before you joined this forum a couple months ago?

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:05 PM
I have no respect for a pimply faced, 20 year old student who has probably never had a date in his life which is how I envision you. I also are quite sure you have never been to Archmadness before this year. Bandwaggoner.

I have no respect for a coward.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
I will cheer for the Bulldogs but the truth is, you Keita44, gutwrencher and others have been a-holes who don't know how to act with your whiff of success.

Hold on there, dungslinger. Point out the "a-hole" comments I have made. Find where I tear up opposing players. Find one, and I'll comment if needed.

For the record, at the expense of pissing off some of my own Bulldog fans, I like watching P play.(except when he plays us...but that's normal).

:bulldogs:

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 09:09 PM
Why didn't you have the testicles to say that to my face?

You weren't dissing my team to my face so I had no need. If you go back to my posts from St Louis, you will note that I was giving you shat about popping your St Louis cherry.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Where have you been before you joined this forum a couple months ago?

What has that got to do with anything. Really? Tell me what you really want to know? What does this forum have to do with anything? I was a fan and going to games at the Barn long before the internet had a heartbeat.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:14 PM
You weren't dissing my team to my face so I had no need. If you go back to my posts from St Louis, you will note that I was giving you shat about popping your St Louis cherry.

I'm not dissing your team. I think Stinnet is a punk. So does everybody else who doesn't drink your kool aid. I never disrespected you in person or on this board until you just went off. I suspect you can't take being beaten 3 times in one year by Drake. I suspect you're not feeling so confident about next year either. I suspect you're embarrassed by the actions of your star freshman. And I suspect, that that's what's brought out your venom. So cheer for who you want. But don't act all good two shoes in person with me and post this shat. Tell me you can defend the punk's behavior. Better yet. Defend it.

DUBulldog
03-10-2008, 09:19 PM
I'm not dissing your team. I think Stinnet is a punk. So does everybody else who doesn't drink your kool aid. I never disrespected you in person or on this board until you just went off. I suspect you can't take being beaten 3 times in one year by Drake. I suspect you're not feeling so confident about next year either. I suspect you're embarrassed by the actions of your star freshman. And I suspect, that that's what's brought out your venom. So cheer for who you want. But don't act all good two shoes in person with me and post this shat. Tell me you can defend the punk's behavior. Better yet. Defend it.

Stinnett is a very talented player who hasn't learned to completely reign in his emotions. I have no idea whether he's a good kid or not, but I've known plenty of guys who were a-holes on the playing field who were great guys in real life. I have fun yelling at P'Allen when Drake plays Creighton, and he seems to enjoy talking back at the crowd. I'm not against trying to distract an opposing player.

I'm guessing that most Creighton fans are feeling real confident about the next couple of years. I think they're the early favorite for 2008-09.

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 09:21 PM
Stinnett is a punk.

He's an embarrassment to the Valley. He's a punk. Punk Allen Stinnet.

Rubber vagina.

Deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach.

I do have a problem with a coach who allows behavior like Punk Stinnet displays and who renigs on deals.

Your crap has been flying for months {years}. If you want me to find more, it will be pretty easy to accomplish.

Don't dish it if you can't take it.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:22 PM
Stinnett is a very talented player who hasn't learned to completely reign in his emotions. I have no idea whether he's a good kid or not, but I've known plenty of guys who were a-holes on the playing field who were great guys in real life. I have fun yelling at P'Allen when Drake plays Creighton, and he seems to enjoy talking back at the crowd. I'm not against trying to distract an opposing player.

I'm guessing that most Creighton fans are feeling real confident about the next couple of years. I think they're the early favorite for 2008-09.

What do you think of him? What do you yell?

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Your crap has been flying for months {years}. If you want me to find more, it will be pretty easy to accomplish.

Don't dish it if you can't take it.

And I would have the balls to tell you that in person. Obviously you know who I am. And what I've posted. I stand by both of those statements.

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 09:30 PM
And I stand by my statement that McBull, DUB and the other 20 DU fans who show up in St Louis every year are the true fans and those who showed up this year for the first time are bandwaggoners.

Again, we'll see which fans show up again next year.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 09:30 PM
I'm guessing that most Creighton fans are feeling real confident about the next couple of years. I think they're the early favorite for 2008-09.

Just the way I like it. Next year will be a re-grouping year for the Dogs of Drake, but I expect a winning season and some upset wins. It's the NEXT season that others will have to worry about. Oh my.....the Dogs will roll again.:bulldogs::bulldogs::bulldogs:

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:34 PM
And I stand by my statement that McBull, DUB and the other 20 DU fans who show up in St Louis every year are the true fans and those who showed up this year for the first time are bandwaggoners.

Again, we'll see which fans show up again next year.

What you think about my attendence at the Tourney doesn't matter to me one bit. I'll tell you this much. If I see you there next year, there will be no need to say hello.

gutwrencher
03-10-2008, 09:36 PM
And I stand by my statement that McBull, DUB and the other 20 DU fans who show up in St Louis every year are the true fans and those who showed up this year for the first time are bandwaggoners.


:no:

Just because some fans are able to make the trip every year does NOT mean the OTHER fans that CAN'T make it every year are not true blue fans. I stand by my statement that that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's an insult. And you don't know ANYONE well enough to insult them with that garbage. You say that to a long time Drake fan in person, you'll lose teeth.

Keita44
03-10-2008, 09:36 PM
If you think your diatribe will change my mind, you're wrong. I will cheer for the Bulldogs but the truth is, you Keita44, gutwrencher and others have been a-holes who don't know how to act with your whiff of success. You throw shat out about CU players and can't take the jack that comes back at you in return. You have thrown out the same crap that you throw out above for months and when confronted, you act all indignant as if you are some sort of martyr. Holy crap, what a pile.

As a Valley fan, I wish your team success===I think you are a first time in St Louis bandwaggoner who dishes it out consistently FOR YEARS and has paper thin skin in return.

You are dissing on us because we correctly identified P'Allen as a P'Tool? If you haven't noticed, about everyone except for you agrees with that statement....

What other "shat" have we thrown out about Creighton players?

All I have said is that Creighton has a lot of talent, but that P'Allen has a bad attitude and needs to shut his mouth.

LincolnJay
03-10-2008, 09:41 PM
What you think about my attendence at the Tourney doesn't matter to me one bit. I'll tell you this much. If I see you there next year, there will be no need to say hello.

What the hell are you talking about? This whole thing has been about me calling you a bandwaggoner and you wanting to bust me in the chops for saying so.:doh: From there, you have called me a dunghole or whatever.

I did add that you and others are acting like WSU fans with their little run - I certainly stand by that.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:43 PM
Bandwaggoner DT chimes in. Hey DT, how did you like the Lou? Did you go to the train station and watch them make fudge? Will you come back next year when Drake is a 5 or 6 seed? Doubt it.

NM

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:44 PM
Soooo, how many trips have you made to the Lou for the tourney? Anyone can buy season tickets. How many trips have you made to the Lou for Archmadness? That is the true determinate for a true fan.

I totally respect McBull, I totally respect DUB {and Mrs. DUB who has been there MANY years} and I totally respect the other 10 or 20 DU fans who have followed DU through thick and thin.

I don't respect DU fans who showed up for Archmadness for the first time this year.

Have some fudge.

You have some fudge.

Dawg_tired
03-10-2008, 09:44 PM
If you think your diatribe will change my mind, you're wrong. I will cheer for the Bulldogs but the truth is, you Keita44, gutwrencher and others have been a-holes who don't know how to act with your whiff of success. You throw shat out about CU players and can't take the jack that comes back at you in return. You have thrown out the same crap that you throw out above for months and when confronted, you act all indignant as if you are some sort of martyr. Holy crap, what a pile.

As a Valley fan, I wish your team success===I think you are a first time in St Louis bandwaggoner who dishes it out consistently FOR YEARS and has paper thin skin in return.

A-holes are abundant in Gomerha.

JSMBulldog
03-10-2008, 10:08 PM
What a dumb argument. Get over the game. Both sides. :no:

creightonfever
03-10-2008, 10:30 PM
WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW! This is all I have to say. Speechless at Drake fans. Not just on this thread, but going to St Louis and then reading all of this.

I don't respect fans who tolerate a rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach. I don't respect fans who shake your hand wish you luck and then pull this shat. Kiss my arse.

BTW...ask those fans you respect about what they think of Punk Stinnet.


Did you just call Dana.. the DEAN of the valley.. a "rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach" as you put it?


Honestly Drake.. act like you have freaking BEEN THERE. Your first NCAA trip.. FIRST tournament title and just hearing you all blow this smoke. Please do not try and tell me that all Drake fans in attendance were true fans and SO DEEPLY care about the dawgs. Its just not true. There was a wide gap of more drake fans this year and you all know why. Its because they knew you'd win some games. In past years you'd be lucky to get past Thursday.

And please dont tell me if P'Allen was on your team that you would rather just have him transfer? The jealousy over this kid drives me up the wall. He is a good thing for the valley.. hes all announcers talk about and he adds flare. ENOUGH.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 12:54 AM
LOL at the CU fans defending P'God.

LOL at the CU fans trying to rain on Drake's parade.

LOL at the CU fans' jealousy of Drake in the NCAA's.

LOL at the CU fans and their hypocritical nature.

LOL at the CU fans. Period. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

outpost
03-11-2008, 05:25 AM
Honestly Drake.. act like you have freaking BEEN THERE. Your first NCAA trip.

Long time ago, but.......
Final Four, 1971. :innocent:

Dawg_tired
03-11-2008, 07:10 AM
WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW! This is all I have to say. Speechless at Drake fans. Not just on this thread, but going to St Louis and then reading all of this.




Did you just call Dana.. the DEAN of the valley.. a "rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach" as you put it?



Honestly Drake.. act like you have freaking BEEN THERE. Your first NCAA trip.. FIRST tournament title and just hearing you all blow this smoke. Please do not try and tell me that all Drake fans in attendance were true fans and SO DEEPLY care about the dawgs. Its just not true. There was a wide gap of more drake fans this year and you all know why. Its because they knew you'd win some games. In past years you'd be lucky to get past Thursday.

And please dont tell me if P'Allen was on your team that you would rather just have him transfer? The jealousy over this kid drives me up the wall. He is a good thing for the valley.. hes all announcers talk about and he adds flare. ENOUGH.

Please tell me you're proud of a coach that renigs on a deal. Please tell me your proud of a player that throws his mouth guard at the scorers table on national TV. Please tell me you're proud of a player who is all about himself and puts his team in bad situations during critical games. Please tell me how long I have been a Drake fan. Please tell me what it's like to make a deep run in the NCAA's. SOOOOOOOOEEEEEY!!!!

JJClamdip
03-11-2008, 07:18 AM
Did you just call Dana.. the DEAN of the valley.. a "rubber vagina, deal breaking backsliding snake as a coach" as you put it?

Now that is funny!

3ontheway
03-11-2008, 07:23 AM
LOL at the CU fans defending P'God.

LOL at the CU fans trying to rain on Drake's parade.

LOL at the CU fans' jealousy of Drake in the NCAA's.

LOL at the CU fans and their hypocritical nature.

LOL at the CU fans. Period. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

All of which is trumped by Gregg Marshall carrying on the Peacock in Heat tradition of WSU and managing to get tossed during a play in game.:lol:

DoubleJayAlum
03-11-2008, 07:34 AM
One of the reason Creighton fans are a little troubled with Drake has to do with being seated next to the Drake student section at the game. We were literally across the aisle from one another. Whenever Drake made a good play, SEVERAL Drake students literally walked across the aisle and shook fingers, yelled, etc. right in CU fans' faces. Security came down on several ocassions and told the DU students to stay in their seats. I honestly thought that punches were going to fly at times.

For those DU supporters calling Stinnett a punk, what say you about the actions of your students? Personally, I have no problem with running smack, etc., but getting up to cross the aisle to yell in the opponents' fans' faces seems completely over the top.

And please don't tell us why we booed. I was there and I booed because I thought it was a bad call on the Dotler/Young crash.

[On a related note, I was a little surprised that the MVC decided to place the Drake students right next to the CU fans. Seems to be a recipe for potential problems. It would have been pretty simple to swap the student sections (and even the side of the sideline that each team sat on so that the families of the Drake players didn't have to sit in the middle of the CU setion. It would have been a very easy fix to make.)]

Ricky Del Rio
03-11-2008, 07:40 AM
Bandwaggoner DT chimes in. Hey DT, how did you like the Lou? Did you go to the train station and watch them make fudge? Will you come back next year when Drake is a 5 or 6 seed? Doubt it.

Don't belittle the fudge.

Miz Rio bought $24 worth of it. I made the mistake of leaving her unsupervised, while I went to the restroom.

Bird
03-11-2008, 07:54 AM
So if I understand correctly, the only reason there were so many more Drake fans this year than previously is because they just couldn't get away to make the trip in previous years? :doh:

This whole thread is pretty ridiculous. Yeah, there were alot of Drake bandwaggoners. Guess what, CU drew about 4,000 fans when Dana showed up on campus. It sounds like WSU had empty seats in the arena this year (I realize you sold-out again, but sounds like had some no-show issues). It happens. Guess what, P'Allen had the 3rd most assists and 2nd most steals on the team this year. Hardly sounds like a selfish player. Although he does try to do too much sometimes and needs to control his emotions a little, there's not a coach in the Valley who wouldn't take him with open arms. Guess what, DU's students have NEVER been there before so they probably don't really know how to take success. They were probably a little over-zealous, but good for them. None of them were alive last time DU made the NCAA tourney.

Good year Drake - you definately had a dream season. Its good for the Valley for the doormats to have good years once in a while. We need more teams to be better on a consistent basis. Thirty years between NCAA trips shouldn't be acceptable to any Valley team. That's Drake's next challenge - can you sustain the success? Will your boosters and athletic department pony up the $$ to keep Keno around? I have no idea about your recruiting class, is it pretty good? For the Valley's sake, I sure hope all of these things continue at DU. Also, CU could use a real rival - and Drake is the closest thing we have given location and being private schools of similar size.

blueblood
03-11-2008, 08:18 AM
A vet told me that Bulldogs can't reproduce on their own. It is very difficult for them anatomically to pull it off. Most of their reproduction is via artificial
insemination. Interesting.

blueness
03-11-2008, 08:26 AM
Please tell me you're proud of a coach that renigs on a deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the proper spelling "reneges?" :fear:

Most of the DU fans in STL were cool, even sat in front of a couple of old players (from the early 1970s) during the Creighton-Drake game who were in town. Most of the younger bar-going fans were curious as to the various places to go to that were "cool."

My friends and I were happy to share the knowledge of STL. I think DU slips a bit next season (for obvious reasons), but I think they'll be around for a while...and it has always been tough to get a W in Des Moines.

I hope DU gets sent to Omaha.

3ontheway
03-11-2008, 08:32 AM
I personally don't blame ANY Drake fan for acting like a moron and being obnoxious, both of which I personally saw very little of in St. Louis, they have pretty much sucked forever, and now they are good. I would probably do the same thing, its called human nature. We witnessed the same thing over the last 2-3 years with WSU. It is not a new phenomenon.

After being subject to that level of crappiness for decades, I wish nothing but good things upon the Drake Bulldogs. I hope they make a nice run in the tourney.

:bulldogs:

outpost
03-11-2008, 08:49 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the proper spelling "reneges?" :fear:

Most of the DU fans in STL were cool, even sat in front of a couple of old players (from the early 1970s) during the Creighton-Drake game who were in town. Most of the younger bar-going fans were curious as to the various places to go to that were "cool."

My friends and I were happy to share the knowledge of STL. I think DU slips a bit next season (for obvious reasons), but I think they'll be around for a while...and it has always been tough to get a W in Des Moines.

I hope DU gets sent to Omaha.

Let's ask Brid........(s) he knows!! Brid, what say you? (I'm very happy to relinquish this alleged spelling police post that you associate with lameness and inability to deliver the smack-goods.)

Bird
03-11-2008, 09:02 AM
Actually Outhouse, go ahead and find one post where I say anything about people's spelling - that's your lame-*** role on this board. Thanks for the obsession though. You're like a little schoolgirl who can't get their heartthrob out of their mind. I've never had a stalker before - its kind of flattering.

Ricky Del Rio
03-11-2008, 09:17 AM
Actually Outhouse, go ahead and find one post where I say anything about people's spelling - that's your lame-*** role on this board. Thanks for the obsession though. You're like a little schoolgirl who can't get their heartthrob out of their mind. I've never had a stalker before - its kind of flattering.

You might want to add to your signature.

"Finished in the top ten for the last X years."

cantbeatthejays
03-11-2008, 09:26 AM
One of the reason Creighton fans are a little troubled with Drake has to do with being seated next to the Drake student section at the game. We were literally across the aisle from one another. Whenever Drake made a good play, SEVERAL Drake students literally walked across the aisle and shook fingers, yelled, etc. right in CU fans' faces. Security came down on several ocassions and told the DU students to stay in their seats. I honestly thought that punches were going to fly at times.

For those DU supporters calling Stinnett a punk, what say you about the actions of your students? Personally, I have no problem with running smack, etc., but getting up to cross the aisle to yell in the opponents' fans' faces seems completely over the top.

And please don't tell us why we booed. I was there and I booed because I thought it was a bad call on the Dotler/Young crash.

[On a related note, I was a little surprised that the MVC decided to place the Drake students right next to the CU fans. Seems to be a recipe for potential problems. It would have been pretty simple to swap the student sections (and even the side of the sideline that each team sat on so that the families of the Drake players didn't have to sit in the middle of the CU setion. It would have been a very easy fix to make.)]

The Drake student section was terrible. For a second, I thought we were in Carbondale by the amount of middle fingers, thrown trash, yelled obscenties (sp?), etc. At several times during the game, students were told by security to remain in their seat before they would be escorted out.

I've always found DU fans to be a classy bunch- but after this weekend, my thinking now is that they had no other choice to be classy considering this is their first postseason trip in 39 years.

DUBulldog
03-11-2008, 09:29 AM
It's always the few obnoxious fans that we notice. Don't judge a fan base by the actions of a few. I've ran into plenty of a-hole fans from other MVC schools....but, I've run into a lot more classy fans from those same schools.

Nyghtewynd
03-11-2008, 09:38 AM
That's funny. I was at the tourney the whole time, and I didn't see any such thing from DU fans...the only anger I saw was when the stormtrooper ushers/security prevented many DU fans from running on the court at the end of the championship game.

BearsFan25
03-11-2008, 09:41 AM
Long time ago, but.......
Final Four, 1971. :innocent:

Just a quick correction. Drake's Final Four appearance was in 1969. Their last tournament appearance was 1971.

Most of the Drake fans I ran in to were great. It always hurts me to see the few unruly fans ruin it for everyone else.

DoubleJayAlum
03-11-2008, 10:53 AM
It's always the few obnoxious fans that we notice. Don't judge a fan base by the actions of a few. I've ran into plenty of a-hole fans from other MVC schools....but, I've run into a lot more classy fans from those same schools.

Having seen some pretty nasty exchanges with SIU in the Kyle Korver/Weber days, I can honestly say I never saw anything like what the Drake students were doing. I've got no problem with yelling, taunting, making signs, etc. from your seating area, but repeatedly getting up and walking across the aisle to wag you finger, shake your sign, yell, etc. in someone's face was pretty over the top. Not to mention the fact that the Drake students were not doing it to other students, but instead to 40 & 50 somethings (who often had small children in tow). There were several moments when I thought that blows were going to be exchanged. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this because security was dispatched to keep the Drake students in the seating area.

Nyghte - the whole situation took place behind the basket, where the top of the Drake student section abutted a Creighton section, and directly below one of the Bradley sections. In addition to the upset Creighton fans, there were several gasps that came out of the Bradley section upon seeing what the Drake students were doing.

DUBulldog
03-11-2008, 10:58 AM
Having seen some pretty nasty exchanges with SIU in the Kyle Korver/Weber days, I can honestly say I never saw anything like what the Drake students were doing. I've got no problem with yelling, taunting, making signs, etc. from your seating area, but repeatedly getting up and walking across the aisle to wag you finger, shake your sign, yell, etc. in someone's face was pretty over the top. Not to mention the fact that the Drake students were not doing it to other students, but instead to 40 & 50 somethings (who often had small children in tow). There were several moments when I thought that blows were going to be exchanged. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this because security was dispatched to keep the Drake students in the seating area.

Nyghte - the whole situation took place behind the basket, where the top of the Drake student section abutted a Creighton section, and directly below one of the Bradley sections. In addition to the upset Creighton fans, there were several gasps that came out of the Bradley section upon seeing what the Drake students were doing.

I'm not disputing you, but I sat 10-15 feet from the top of the Drake student section during that game, and I didn't see any of that. Of course, I was on the opposite side of the student section from where you were.

drakeguy
03-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Students are going to be students, regardless of what school you go too. To say Drake students are the worst ones just means they are the ones you got sat by. It does suck that they had you seated right next to the student section, just a really bad placement for an opposing teams fan base to be seated. At the end of the day you put alcohol, students, and sporting events in the same sentence, you also get a bad representation of the group as a whole.

In the past several years I could say the same thing for CU fan students at the Knapp center. Some were rude, obnoxious, in your face (literally), etc. etc. But if the students aren't pumped up and overly excited, who is going to be?:bulldogs:

Little Eddie
03-11-2008, 11:08 AM
When I went to Des Moines to watch ISU vs Drake there was one student fan I wanted to "say hi" to after he yelled "McKenna, you suck!" Other than that one fan though the people were fine...students were into it and I met some of the regulars on this board...Dawg Tired, DUBull and McBullshat...good people just having a fun year w/ a team that has been down for many years.

This game is over...so should this thread. More important things to worry about like who your coach is recruiting or where certain teams will play in the post season tourneys.

There's always gonna be a few deuchebags...we've been over this ad nauseum. Time to move on.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 11:30 AM
For those DU supporters calling Stinnett a punk, what say you about the actions of your students? Personally, I have no problem with running smack, etc., but getting up to cross the aisle to yell in the opponents' fans' faces seems completely over the top.

Oh please.

There's a difference than what a student athlete is doing on the floor in a basketball game and what pumped up student fans are doing.. That was pretty lame. P'God is a punk/thug/disgrace/embarrassment/loudmouth/arrogant/mouthpiece-thrower [insert one]. As a representative of Creighton and on the basketball floor, there's no excuse for it. Fans are stupid and crazy at times.. but they ARE FANS. That's there excuse.

Man, quit with the whining DJA. You sound like a big, fat baby. You act like nothing bad ever happens with the CU student section or general fanbase. If you don't like sitting next to students of a team who's wiping your team's *****, then don't come to the tournament anymore.

DUBulldog
03-11-2008, 11:47 AM
When I went to Des Moines to watch ISU vs Drake there was one student fan I wanted to "say hi" to after he yelled "McKenna, you suck!" Other than that one fan though the people were fine...students were into it and I met some of the regulars on this board...Dawg Tired, DUBull and McBullshat...good people just having a fun year w/ a team that has been down for many years.

This game is over...so should this thread. More important things to worry about like who your coach is recruiting or where certain teams will play in the post season tourneys.

There's always gonna be a few deuchebags...we've been over this ad nauseum. Time to move on.


Best post on this thread.

cantbeatthejays
03-11-2008, 11:53 AM
Oh please.

There's a difference than what a student athlete is doing on the floor in a basketball game and what pumped up student fans are doing.. That was pretty lame. P'God is a punk/thug/disgrace/embarrassment/loudmouth/arrogant/mouthpiece-thrower [insert one]. As a representative of Creighton and on the basketball floor, there's no excuse for it. Fans are stupid and crazy at times.. but they ARE FANS. That's there excuse.

Man, quit with the whining DJA. You sound like a big, fat baby. You act like nothing bad ever happens with the CU student section or general fanbase. If you don't like sitting next to students of a team who's wiping your team's *****, then don't come to the tournament anymore.

You truly jealous of CU and SIU- it's disgusting.


I remember we used to give Howard a hard time.... Having said that, no one really cared, because neither him or WSU were much of a threat- can you say the same about PA and CU?

The future is so bright I need to wear shades.:jays:

cantbeatthejays
03-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Having seen some pretty nasty exchanges with SIU in the Kyle Korver/Weber days, I can honestly say I never saw anything like what the Drake students were doing. I've got no problem with yelling, taunting, making signs, etc. from your seating area, but repeatedly getting up and walking across the aisle to wag you finger, shake your sign, yell, etc. in someone's face was pretty over the top. Not to mention the fact that the Drake students were not doing it to other students, but instead to 40 & 50 somethings (who often had small children in tow). There were several moments when I thought that blows were going to be exchanged. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this because security was dispatched to keep the Drake students in the seating area.

Nyghte - the whole situation took place behind the basket, where the top of the Drake student section abutted a Creighton section, and directly below one of the Bradley sections. In addition to the upset Creighton fans, there were several gasps that came out of the Bradley section upon seeing what the Drake students were doing.



Same experience. I don't care about the "students will be students." We never pulled that crap when I was at CU (all of two years ago). I do attribute to a fanbase that has no idea what to do when they have a whiff of success.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 12:12 PM
You truly jealous of CU and SIU- it's disgusting.


I remember we used to give Howard a hard time.... Having said that, no one really cared, because neither him or WSU were much of a threat- can you say the same about PA and CU?

The future is so bright I need to wear shades.:jays:

Your obsession over me is what I'd call disgusting, but I've always wanted a stalker.

Why would you give Howard a hard time? Did he threaten you?

CU's looking awfully threatening right now.. especially after Saturday.

And the only threatening thing I see from P'God is his mouthpiece throwing abilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7p4mioawIA

drakeguy
03-11-2008, 12:20 PM
Same experience. I don't care about the "students will be students." We never pulled that crap when I was at CU (all of two years ago). I do attribute to a fanbase that has no idea what to do when they have a whiff of success.

Maybe you never pulled that as a student two years ago, but that doesn't mean your fellow students didn't. They did and do and always will, its just what students do regardless of school.

DoubleJayAlum
03-11-2008, 12:22 PM
Maybe you never pulled that as a student two years ago, but that doesn't mean your fellow students didn't. They did and do and always will, its just what students do regardless of school.

How many years has arena security had to patrol the CU student section?

Have you ever even been to the MVC tourney before this year?

Don't make stuff up.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 12:24 PM
How many years has arena security had to patrol the CU student section?

How many years has the CU student section been placed away from the comfortable surroundings of the gentle CU fan base and right next to an opposing team's fan base?

DoubleJayAlum
03-11-2008, 12:27 PM
How many years has the CU student section been placed away from the comfortable surroundings of the gentle CU fan base and right next to an opposing team's fan base?

Well genius, the CU fan base didn't sit next to CU students at the Drake game this year...

Last year our student section was right next to an SIU fan section in the championship. No security called.

Do you even go to the tourney? Have you looked where the CU students are sitting with respect to the rest of the fanbase? Don't make stuff up.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 12:38 PM
Well genius, the CU fan base didn't sit next to CU students at the Drake game this year...

Last year our student section was right next to an SIU fan section in the championship. No security called.

Do you even go to the tourney? Have you looked where the CU students are sitting with respect to the rest of the fanbase? Don't make stuff up.

No, I didn't attend this year.

Yes, I've attended in the past.

Were CU students sitting next to the Drake fanbase this year? Thought so..

CU fans are perfect angels, so perfect in fact, that they've taken in the security officials as their own personal slaves.

Do you think security is called whenever a ridiculously bad incident with fans happens? You just happened to see it this time and so did they.

CU fans were just pissy because they got beat in their own invitational. Plain and simple.

The only time during the game when I felt security should have been called is when P'God yelled like a baby and started chucking his mouthwear across the floor.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 12:39 PM
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DoubleJayAlum
03-11-2008, 12:43 PM
No, I didn't attend this year.

Yes, I've attended in the past.

Were CU students sitting next to the Drake fanbase this year? Thought so..

CU fans are perfect angels, so perfect in fact, that they've taken in the security officials as their own personal slaves.

Do you think security is called whenever a ridiculously bad incident with fans happens? You just happened to see it this time and so did they.

CU fans were just pissy because they got beat in their own invitational. Plain and simple.

The only time during the game when I felt security should have been called is when P'God yelled like a baby and started chucking his mouthwear across the floor.

I'll take this as an admission that you were just making things up.

If you want to say the actions between the fanbases are similar you need examples, not just feelings of what you want to believe. That's called fiction no matter how much you want to believe it.

Go back to arguing with DS. You're more successful there.

Little Eddie
03-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Big surprise that my post fell on deaf ears...

:banghead:

shockball
03-11-2008, 12:48 PM
Having seen some pretty nasty exchanges with SIU in the Kyle Korver/Weber days, I can honestly say I never saw anything like what the Drake students were doing. I've got no problem with yelling, taunting, making signs, etc. from your seating area, but repeatedly getting up and walking across the aisle to wag you finger, shake your sign, yell, etc. in someone's face was pretty over the top. Not to mention the fact that the Drake students were not doing it to other students, but instead to 40 & 50 somethings (who often had small children in tow). There were several moments when I thought that blows were going to be exchanged. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this because security was dispatched to keep the Drake students in the seating area.

Nyghte - the whole situation took place behind the basket, where the top of the Drake student section abutted a Creighton section, and directly below one of the Bradley sections. In addition to the upset Creighton fans, there were several gasps that came out of the Bradley section upon seeing what the Drake students were doing.

Is this written like a cheap romance novel?

outpost
03-11-2008, 01:10 PM
How many years has arena security had to patrol the CU student section?

Have you ever even been to the MVC tourney before this year?

Don't make stuff up.

I've been there 11 out of 13 years, young-un. Security doesn't patrol just the CU section, it patrols all sections, and during the entire tourney......I've actually chuckled at how overly safety conscious they get there sometimes......but then again, there have been times when I'm glad to have them around.

I wasn't there this year, so I will try not to pass judgment. But from extensive experience and observations on my part, security personnel do tend to patrol potential hot spots and try to defuse events from escalating. One year, they told a CU fan to put away his "Rolan is a Felon" poster. I laughed along with your fans until it had to go........

And please consider telling your over-caffeinated (girl) friend politely Brid to go to he!l.....I have no feelings for him (her), (s) he doesn't rattle me and could care less what (s) he thinks about me and my knack for trying to spell properly. (S) he sounds very similar to Rasputin, who apparently ignored all discretion and got booted from VT.

I'm sure we've all had enough of this thread. The appeal won't be overturned, the results are in the books forever, and Drake's magical season continues for at least a couple of additional weeks. Good for them, good effort by Creighton, and good luck to both in their respective post-season appearances.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 01:13 PM
I'll take this as an admission that you were just making things up.

If you want to say the actions between the fanbases are similar you need examples, not just feelings of what you want to believe. That's called fiction no matter how much you want to believe it.

Go back to arguing with DS. You're more successful there.

Were you in the CU student section to counter my 'feelings'?

I've had experience with CU fans at the tournament before. I've seen the jawing CU students in action.

Is it fiction because you don't believe anything negative can be instilled by a CU fan?

While you're preparing us all for Morality class, maybe you should bring some of that advice to P'God. He sure could use a lesson. Or am I just fictionalizing again?

drakeguy
03-11-2008, 01:22 PM
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Will someone please call security.

WSUbballer
03-11-2008, 01:24 PM