08/09 MVC Coach of the year?

[Coachtrey]

I am going to have to go with Mckenna at Indiana state as they have the best chance to pull off a "Drake" like year.:fear:

[WuDrWu]

I am going to have to go with Mckenna at Indiana state as they have the best chance to pull off a "Drake" like year.:fear:



If by "best chance" you mean because ISU routinely finishes at or near the bottom of the league (a la Drake) then I would agree with you.


Frankly, I can't see anyone but Altman winning this year. Perhaps Martin has a chance to pull one out of a hat in Springfield.

My guess is that unless MSU, EU, ISUb, WSU, UNI, or BU finish in the top 2, then Altman is going win because DU, ISUr and SIU should be decent and I can't see any of them beating CU (in the standings).

[TreeHugger]

Kevin McKenna..........write it on your wall with BLUE crayon.

[IndyTreeFan]

Kevin McKenna..........write it on your wall with BLUE crayon.

I like the sentiment, but with all the newcomers, we're still a year away. Keep your eye on 09-10...

:bounceblue::sycamores::bounceblue:

[BeeLine]

I think if not this year, in the near future it will be Marty Simmons at Evansville. Obviously the Purple Aces can improve greatly making his chances better, but I thought his team played harder and with a different mindset than past years. The Aces were tougher defensively, had more athleticism and I like some of the young talent he's bringing in. Often you see a change in attitude before you see on the court success, and that's what I saw in the Aces last year. While justifiably Keno got most of the attention at Drake, and the success of Jank at ISUr was more tangible; I really thought Simmons , other than Keno, showed the most to me of the new coaches last year, and Keno's situation was tough to equate to a new coach given his history there.
I think those automatically relegating the Aces to 10th in the Valley might be surprised this year, although it might still be a year early for a real turnaround. Long range, I also like our guy, ZO; he's a tough minded dude who's got good young coaches around him. He is attracting a differnt type and level of recruit to Springfiled , so now it becomes an issue of his preparation and in game coaching. By 09 we will be a significantly bigger, quicker and more athletic team than any I can remember. You know in any job you don't really realize what you're not doing till someone comes in and shows you what you could've been doing.

[iSASO]

Let's try a fill-in-the-blank exercise here:

I also like our guy, Marshall; he's a tough minded dude who's got good coaches around him. He is attracting a different type and level of recruit to Wichita, so now it becomes an issue of his preparation and in game coaching. But we know Marshall is a proven D1 coach based on his 7 NCAA Tournament appearances and multiple conference titles. By September '08 WSU will be a significantly bigger, quicker and more athletic team than any I can remember(since the days when WSU was ranked #1 in the nation and advanced to the Elite 8). You know in any job you don't really realize what you're not doing until someone comes in and shows you what you could've been doing.

(Granted, what we were doing before was good enough to win a conference title, advance to the Sweet 16 and be ranked #8 in the nation, but I'm just sayin'.)

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[WSUbballer]

Marshall has one bad flaw.

He coaches Wichita State. The Valley can't stand that.

[skinny_uncle]

If by "best chance" you mean because ISU routinely finishes at or near the bottom of the league (a la Drake) then I would agree with you.


Frankly, I can't see anyone but Altman winning this year. Perhaps Martin has a chance to pull one out of a hat in Springfield.

My guess is that unless MSU, EU, ISUb, WSU, UNI, or BU finish in the top 2, then Altman is going win because DU, ISUr and SIU should be decent and I can't see any of them beating CU (in the standings).
As long as Dana has been around, he probably has to win the league to get the COY award. If someone else wins the league, their coach will be the top candidate.

[WSUfan]

Gordon Vadakin? (or Chris Lamb?) :grin:

[bberilam]

Let's try a fill-in-the-blank exercise here:

I also like our guy, Marshall; he's a tough minded dude who's got good coaches around him. He is attracting a different type and level of recruit to Wichita, so now it becomes an issue of his preparation and in game coaching. But we know Marshall is a proven D1 coach based on his 7 NCAA Tournament appearances and multiple conference titles. By September '08 WSU will be a significantly bigger, quicker and more athletic team than any I can remember(since the days when WSU was ranked #1 in the nation and advanced to the Elite 8). You know in any job you don't really realize what you're not doing until someone comes in and shows you what you could've been doing.

(Granted, what we were doing before was good enough to win a conference title, advance to the Sweet 16 and be ranked #8 in the nation, but I'm just sayin'.)

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And you wonder why fewer and fewer people read/post valleytalk everyday.

On topic: Altman because he's the best coach, and he'll have the best team.

[MoValley John]

And you wonder why fewer and fewer people read/post valleytalk everyday.



It also might have something to do with today being the 23rd of June and absolutely nothing is happening in the Valley. That, or we could start a thread about shoe sizes in the Valley. Better yet, we could discuss which player has the largest feet, nose and hands.

[jays11]

Dana has already got it locked up.

[iSASO]

So why, with his big whatever, is Altman never able to get beyond 2nd base? In fact, he's only briefly visited 2nd base once in his entire career. Little 'ol Markie Turgeon nailed 1st base and 2nd base and slid into third on his first at-bat.

And bberilam - No, I don't wonder why fewer people read or post on VT every day. I'm concerned that you actually track that count though. Seriously, get a life. There's more to human life than being a hit-counter. Al Gore invented electricity and silicon for that reason.

[MoValley John]

So why, with his big whatever, is Altman never able to get beyond 2nd base? In fact, he's only briefly visited 2nd base once in his entire career. Little 'ol Markie Turgeon nailed 1st base and 2nd base and slid into third on his first at-bat.

God I love Meatloaf!!!
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[WSUbballer]

Dana has already got it locked up.

Then why even play the season? Let's just fedex the thing to him now.

Here's one of your perfect CU fans in action, DJA. Now defend him.

[iSASO]

God I love Meatloaf!!!

Especially with strips of bacon on it!!!

[Little Eddie]

Then why even play the season? Let's just fedex the thing to him now.

Here's one of your perfect CU fans in action, DJA. Now defend him.

Why are you getting so worked up? The kid (I'm guessing) has 10 posts to his name...jays11 may actually be referring to his age in his name. We don't know these things.

It's obvious to anyone who knows hoops that the Jays will be very good next season. Will that translate into a Coach of the Year win for Altman? Depends on how far the team goes I'd say. I wouldn't call him a lock but w/ the talent he has he should have high expectations...if those expectations aren't met then someone else could and should slide in to win coach of the year. After what happened at Drake last season, you just never know who might win it.

I'll agree w/ a previous poster regarding Coach McKenna...probably won't be this coming season but the season after he could be there in the end. Barring injuries, defections, etc...the Syc's only lose Jay Tunnell to graduation next season. RJ Mahurin takes his place...RJ will be a solid replace for Jay.

[jays11]

some of you guys get so worked up its hilarious, and im not 11 years old.

[MoValley John]

some of you guys get so worked up its hilarious, and im not 11 years old.

Could you list the ones that get worked up? Please?

[jays11]

Could you list the ones that get worked up? Please?

all WSU fans

[SubGod22]

...and im not 11 years old.


That's too bad. What's your excuse then?

[MoValley John]

all WSU fans

:lol::lol::lol:

Five bucks and a bag of Fritos says this troll is from Wichita and just trying to stir the pot.

Not that there's anything wrong with pot-stirring, I do it all the time. But come on, have a little history on the board first. At least enough history where you don't confuse Saluki posters with Bulldog posters.

[MoValley John]

I WANT NAMES!!! HAVE THE BALLS TO CALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT!!!

[MoValley John]

Where do I fit on the list of worked up WSU fans?

[jays11]

I WANT NAMES!!! HAVE THE BALLS TO CALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT!!!

you are one of them, and theres also wsu baller and outpost.

and im not a schocker fan



P Allen= POY
:jays:

[MoValley John]

you are one of them, and theres also wsu baller and outpost.



P Allen= POY
:jays:

But lets say I don't live in Wichita, maybe I live in Derby or Hutch. Maybe I went to K-State. Does that still make me a worked up Shocker fan?

[MoValley John]

jays11, have you ever been to Wichita? Maybe you'd like it.

[MoValley John]

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2471048-Downtown_Wichita-Kansas.gif

[outpost]

This is my first post on this thread. What would cause me to get "worked up" over anything? Right now, the only thing I'm worked up about that it isn't VB season, and I'm not in Spandex Heaven.

[MoValley John]

This is my first post on this thread. What would cause me to get "worked up" over anything? Right now, the only thing I'm worked up about that it isn't VB season, and I'm not in Spandex Heaven.

I can tell by your change of font that you are worked up. You're worked up, I'm worked up and WSU Baller is worked up. So why don't the three of us meet at our favorite Wichita area bar, you know the bar in Wichita that we always go to. We'll throw a few back and cool off.

[Ricky Del Rio]

some of you guys get so worked up its hilarious, and im not 11 years old.

You may not be, but your rhetoric implies as much.

[WuDrWu]

This is my first post on this thread. What would cause me to get "worked up" over anything? Right now, the only thing I'm worked up about that it isn't VB season, and I'm not in Spandex Heaven.


That is outstanding! Spandex Heaven has allowed me the freedom to sell my college football season tickets for most of the past 3 years and I couldn't be happier.

:valley::shockers:

[WSUbballer]

you are one of them, and theres also wsu baller and outpost.

and im not a schocker fan



P Allen= POY
:jays:

Hahahahaaa. Outpost didn't even post in here and he gets called out. :lol::lol:

I do feel special that I made the little tyke's list.

If this kid is lying and has, in fact, already hit puberty, that is the day DawgieStyle spells an entire post flawlessly.

Keep posting jays11. You represent CU well. :jays::clap::banana:


:lol:

[WSUbballer]

I can tell by your change of font that you are worked up. You're worked up, I'm worked up and WSU Baller is worked up. So why don't the three of us meet at our favorite Wichita area bar, you know the bar in Wichita that we always go to. We'll throw a few back and cool off.

I'm too effing worked up to throw back a few.

I'd prefer to relax in a hot tub, latching onto my chick, just like my hero, eomaha.

[WSUfan]

MoValley John: The Meatloaf video is great. :grin:

[MoValley John]

Okay, here's the rub, I'm like the most prolific poster on the board. I haven't kept too many secrets about where I live or whom I support. If anyone READS Valley Talk before posting, and moreover, feeling the need to start flaming threads, they would know that I DO NOT live in Wichita. Furthermore, they would know that I don't even live in Kansas and am NOT a Wichita State fan. And who on this board thinks I'm uptight? There are people that don't like me, but I'd be hard pressed to find many, if any, that think I'm uptight. I do some fishing and occasionally catch a few people, but I'm not uptight. What's even more funny, is the fact that Mr. Know It All jays11 has already called out Dawg_Tired as a Saluki. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

So I do a little fishing and I land jays11 for not knowing with whom he is debating and even the fanbase of the people in which he's arguing!!! :lol::lol::lol:
I hardly got my hook in the water! :lol::lol::lol:

At this point, any Shocker fan can feel free to tell mr jays11 the city and state in which I reside.

Talk about losing any and all credibility before you even have a chance to earn any! :lol::clap::lol::clap::lol:

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[MoValley John]

MoValley John: The Meatloaf video is great. :grin:

Thanks, I thought that the video fit the post perfectly. I'm just a little disappointed that nobody else seemed to appreciate it. :banghead: I guess I'm just too uptight. :chair:

[MoValley John]

I suppose I should quit posing for pictures and just toss jays11 into the livewell. He's a keeper.

[MSNSaluki]

I suppose I should quit posing for pictures and just toss jays11 into the livewell. He's a keeper.

:lol:

[iSASO]

Mo, there's always plenty of crappie in this fishin' hole. It's well stocked and they're always hungry.

[MoValley John]

I just spent the day playing with some chuklehead Husker fan on the Bluejay Cafe. God, I hope Valley Talk doesn't go down again.

[DawgieStyle]

damn it, I don't check VT for a couple days, and I miss the special Olympics of circuses, with jays11 as the main attraction.

A clue on MVJ's residence....the town has a school there...one of it's colors is BLUE.

[DoubleJayAlum]

damn it, I don't check VT for a couple days, and I miss the special Olympics of circuses, with jays11 as the main attraction.

A clue on MVJ's residence....the town has a school there...one of it's colors is BLUE.

Actually, that's wrong. MVJ does not live in Omaha....

[jays11]

jays11, have you ever been to Wichita? Maybe you'd like it.

Why would i want to go to Witchita?

[Sir_ShoxAlot]

Why would i want to go to Witchita?

Maybe to learn how to spell the name of the city.

[Sir_ShoxAlot]

you are one of them, and theres also wsu baller and outpost.

and im not a schocker fan



P Allen= POY
:jays:

Mo Valley John, WSU Baller and outpost happen to be my favorite posters on all of ValleyTalk, along with DawgieStyle and Phantom. And not to forget jays11.

Keep 'em comin', buddy!:grin:

[jays11]

Mo Valley John, WSU Baller and outpost happen to be my favorite posters on all of ValleyTalk, along with DawgieStyle and Phantom. And not to forget jays11.

Keep 'em comin', buddy!:grin:


I forgot your name on the list as well

:jays:
P Allen=POY

[Sir_ShoxAlot]

I forgot your name on the list as well

:jays:
P Allen=POY

I made the list?

CHYEAH!

[MoValley John]

Actually, that's wrong. MVJ does not live in Omaha....
You are so wise! :lol::lol::lol:

[MoValley John]

I made the list?

CHYEAH!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Sir_ShoxAlot has just replaced Cold on the official list!!!!! :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Sir_ShoxAlot]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Sir_ShoxAlot has just replaced Cold on the official list!!!!! :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

And I was as old as jays11 when I started. :grin:
I was known as SeanTheShocker.

[MoValley John]

And I was as old as jays11 when I started. :grin:
I was known as SeanTheShocker.

:lol::lol::lol:

The beauty of this whole thing is, he doesn't know how to get this to stop, he doesn't know how to make it all go away! He's stuck in a thread that he has no way of getting out of and no idea of how to try. There is a way, but he's clueless, so the best thing he could do would be to PM Dawgie and ask, "How do you make those bad boys quit picking on me?" :lol::lol::lol:

[Sir_ShoxAlot]

:lol::lol::lol:

The beauty of this whole thing is, he doesn't know how to get this to stop, he doesn't know how to make it all go away! He's stuck in a thread that he has no way of getting out of and no idea of how to try. There is a way, but he's clueless, so the best thing he could do would be to PM Dawgie and ask, "How do you make those bad boys quit picking on me?" :lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

I think you should know that you're my favorite poster on ValleyTalk.

But seriously... don't let him know that there's a way out. Don't even let him know that we're having fun. Let him think we're too up tight. I want my name on that list, and I don't want that list to die. :grin:

[DawgieStyle]

Actually, that's wrong. MVJ does not live in Omaha....

i didn't say which blue.

[DoubleJayAlum]

i didn't say which blue.

:lol::lol::lol:

Okay, this I gotta hear......

[DawgieStyle]

:lol::lol::lol:

Okay, this I gotta hear......

check your PM's

[MoValley John]

Some of you guys are thinking way, way too big, I'm a small town guy. I would never live in a megalopolis like Omaha, Des Moines or Wichita. Too big and crime ridden. Shucks, where I live, we have a big arse parade coming up, gonna be firetrucks, fireworks and watermelon feeds. They can't do that in the big cities, the gangs would take over.

[DawgieStyle]

Some of you guys are thinking way, way too big, I'm a small town guy. I would never live in a megalopolis like Omaha, Des Moines or Wichita. Too big and crime ridden. Shucks, where I live, we have a big arse parade coming up, gonna be firetrucks, fireworks and watermelon feeds. They can't do that in the big cities, the gangs would take over.

do you live with your mom.

[DUBulldog]

do you live with your mom.

Now I'm confused. I thought he lived with your mom.

[DawgieStyle]

Now I'm confused. I thought he lived with your mom.

no, he just sleeps on her couch, on his way to bang your mom.

[MoValley John]

Now I'm confused. I thought he lived with your mom.

No. I SLEEP with his mom. Big difference.

Did I mention I SLEEP with with jays11's mom on weekends. What a tramp!

[DawgieStyle]

for the record, I sent a PM to DJA where I told him I though you lived near DSM, but now that I think abou it, that's wrong.

I know you don't live in Omaha....but I'm pretty sure you live fairly close to there, considering it only takes you 15 minutes to get home after we tag team jays11's mom.

[DUBulldog]

no, he just sleeps on her couch, on his way to bang your mom.

So, your mom isn't even worth banging?

[DawgieStyle]

So, your mom isn't even worth banging?

only with the light off.

[DUBulldog]

only with the light off.

:lol::lol::lol:

[MoValley John]

Dawgie, you're all messed up! I don't live near Des Moines. Furthermore, I bang your mom and DU's wife. Then again, everybody bangs DU's wife, just ask McBulldog, he wouldn't lie.

By the way DU, it's raining lie crazy here, so tell your wife I'll probably meet up with her via raft or canoe.

[DawgieStyle]

Dawgie, you're all messed up! I don't live near Des Moines. Furthermore, I bang your mom and DU's wife. Then again, everybody bangs DU's wife, just ask McBulldog, he wouldn't lie.

By the way DU, it's raining lie crazy here, so tell your wife I'll probably meet up with her via raft or canoe.

why not try a jet ski.......

[WSUbballer]

we tag team jays11's mom.

Tag teaming?

I always thought you putted from the rough.