The Abyss

[Aargh]

Time to talk about who ends up in the unending, bottomless pit this year.

As best I recall this has been a summertime tradition started by Ricky Del Rio when he predicted SIU was on their way to the abyss in year 2 of SIU's run of 6 consecutive NCAA appearances.

Karma bites. Since Ricky started the abyss idea, WSU has had a fall from NCAA lock to NIT loss on a length of the court pass and shot with under a second left in the game, a fall from a #8 national ranking to finishing #6 in the Valley, and a 2-year plummet from S16 to #9 in the Valley.

With that track record I've got to go with MSU seeking The Abyss this year. They fired one of the most successful coaches in the history of the Valley after setting him up for failure for 2 consecutive years. Hinson's future at MSU was so messed up he had no chance to recruit, which left MSU no choice but to fire Hinson.

Karma bites. MSU into The Abyss!

Sorry, you can't nominate WSU. We're already there.

[LincolnJay]

My nomination goes to my retirement portfolio. :crybaby:

[shockball]

Retirement portfolio's are at 2006 levels. Sweet 16.

[iSASO]

According to the consensus opinion of every fanbase, every team in the conference will finish in the top half of the standings. Through some oddity of probabilities math, about half of them are wrong every year.

It is very difficult to get anyone to say "We will finish last."

[Canevision]

According to the consensus opinion of every fanbase, every team in the conference will finish in the top half of the standings. Through some oddity of probabilities math, about half of them are wrong every year.

It is very difficult to get anyone to say "We will finish last."

I don't know, Evansville fans seem to know it most years.

[outpost]

Could be wrong, but after a year in the sun, I see Drake taking a dive back down to familiar territory.

[Ace Happy]

I don't know, Evansville fans seem to know it most years.


True That!

[Chairman of the Boards]

My nomination goes to my retirement portfolio. :crybaby:

Same here... my 401 K has turned into a 200.50 K.

:banghead::ranting::bash::chair::horse::down::cryb aby::bangin::sweat::confused::crazy::boxed::tv_hor ror::wacko::puke::thumbdown::furious::mad3::cry::s adwalk::stretcher::dontgetit::shock::blowup::cryin g::sweatingbullets::confused1::mad2::twisted::blin k::turned::censored::shock1::sick::jawdrop::sad::e ek::shocking::unsure::argue::devil::wassat::nuke:: surrender::box::alien::bag::disguise2::whip::oops: :wounded2::shocked::yucky::crutch::angry::surprise ::helpsmilie:

[WSUfan]

My nomination goes to my retirement portfolio. :crybaby:

What's that? :innocent:

[Coachtrey]

Perhaps the Valley as a whole is headed for the abyss. From 4 bids to 2 to 1.:fear:

[WSUfan]

Perhaps the Valley as a whole is headed for the abyss. From 4 bids to 2 to 1.:fear:

So half of a bid in 2009?
A quarter of a bid in 2010?
:grin:

[iSASO]

One thing is true, according to some on this board. Anyone in the conference can help raise the conference to new heights at any time. It certainly doesn't have to be WSU and Bradley, like in 2006 with the four bid season. Pure coincidence there. It most certainly can be Drake and...um...um...you know, the other three teams which made the NCAA Tournament in 2008. And those two in 2008 who beat BCS teams to advance to the Sweet 16. Yes, 2008, those were the days.

[BeeLine]

Got three teams in in 99 and had a team reach the sweet 16 by beating two BCS schools [Big 10/SEC] and then played #1 Duke tough before losing as opposed to getting beat by the Colonial conference; don't recall WSU being in that mix in 99.

Could it be that WSU is just 1 of 10 schools in the Valley and that the world doesn't revolve around them; that despite the fact they are 1 of only 2 schools in the present Valley structure that hasn't made multiple NCAA Tourney appearences in the last 20 years , that the Valley rose to the number 7 conference not because of them, but in spite of them and the drag they've applied from the bottom of the heap most years.

Ah yes, the last 20 years, the WSU era in MVC basketball. Those really were the days.

[ coming attraction: some historical ramblings about a time when WSU was relevant in MBB]

[DoubleJayAlum]

Got three teams in in 99 and had a team reach the sweet 16 by beating two BCS schools [Big 10/SEC] and then played #1 Duke tough before losing as opposed to getting beat by the Colonial conference; don't recall WSU being in that mix in 99.

Could it be that WSU is just 1 of 10 schools in the Valley and that the world doesn't revolve around them; that despite the fact they are 1 of only 2 schools in the present Valley structure that hasn't made multiple NCAA Tourney appearences in the last 20 years , that the Valley rose to the number 7 conference not because of them, but in spite of them and the drag they've applied from the bottom of the heap most years.

Ah yes, the last 20 years, the WSU era in MVC basketball. Those really were the days.

[ coming attraction: some historical ramblings about a time when WSU was relevant in MBB]

The new WSU AD calls that "excelling."

[outpost]

[ coming attraction: some historical ramblings about a time when WSU was relevant in MBB]

Tourney appearances in this millenium:

WSU 1
MSU 0

Tourney wins in this millenium:

WSU 2
MSU 0

Apologies if I'm not going far enough back in history for everyone.

[BeeLine]

Sad attempt, but I understand; what can you do when your own sets you up. Have a nice 4th.

[outpost]

The new WSU AD calls that "excelling."

Yeah, IMHO he's new to Valley standards, just like Marshall was last year. I'll give him a pass, just as I did Marshall.

DJA, just because the AD said it doesn't mean he speaks for the entire Shocker nation.

There are quicker and easier ways to gratify yourself, without trying to bring it out to VT. Take some advice from Venditte, I have heard that he's an expert with either hand.

[outpost]

Sad attempt, but I understand; what can you do when your own sets you up. Have a nice 4th.

Sad in what way? Are you looking for short-term? long-term?

Or is it just that you want to spin your version of history to fit your own needs?

Help me out here......while WSU was 0-for-the-'90's, how many appearances in the Dance did MSU make? We're all aware of 1999, but what year (s)besides that?

[BeeLine]

Outpost please , you're smarter than that. Who started this garbage by suggesting that WSU's sweet 16 appearence was more meaningful than what other programs had accomplished including very similar sweet 16 runs, and playing much more consistent basketball over a two decade period. Then honestly answer this , since Missouri State entered the Valley, which is the only level playing field comparison that would seem relevant, which of the two programs has consistently been the better. I'll remind you that in that 18 year period:

MSU has made 2 NCAA appearences[ 92/99 ] in that time, WSU 1[06]
MSU leads the head to head series and has won 4 of the last 5
MSU has finished ahead of WSU in MVC standings in something like 13 or 14 of the 18 years.
MSU has a sweet 16 appearence , WSU has one as well.
WSU has 1 MVC title, no MVC tourney titles; MSU has no MVC titles, 1 MVC tourney title.

MSU actually made 3 appearences in the NCAA in the 90's, but 1[ 90] was from another conference and not relevant to the MVC only comparison.That 90 season was the 4th straight appearence and part of a 5 for 6 run in NCAA tourneys and 8 straight years run in post season . But again, not relevant to the comparison above. Out of fairness WSU had 4 NCAA appearences in the 80's, part of a 7 out of 10 years post season run themsleves. Anything before 82 and we weren't a D-1 program so comparisons are pointless. I've stuck to what is a fair comaparison, the entire length of time the 2 programs have been in the same league competing on equal footing. You can claim anything you want prior to that, but since then, you have been a lower level Valley program for the most part, while we have been an upper division one most years.

[outpost]

Keep your powder dry. There's nothing I dislike worse than fireworks in broad daylight.

It was an innocent question. I actually went out and researched your media guide.

I'm certainly not going to mock your tourney run from the late '80's through the early '90's.......JUST AS I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU OR ANY OTHER MSU FANS TO DISRESPECT OUR BASEBALL CWS RUN DURING THAT SAME TIME FRAME.

[Dawg_tired]

Drake will most certainly dive into the abyss next season. Its two returning all conference players will choke, it's transfer from UC Irvine will suddenly be unable to shoot threes or rebound and the new coach will be thrown out of a record number of MVC games at home an away. Drake is will definitely fall back into the cellar.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Drake will most certainly dive into the abyss next season. Its two returning all conference players will choke, it's transfer from UC Irvine will suddenly be unable to shoot threes or rebound and the new coach will be thrown out of a record number of MVC games at home an away.

When did Drake hire Gregg Marshal?

[numbr_9]

Drake will most certainly dive into the abyss next season. Its two returning all conference players will choke, it's transfer from UC Irvine will suddenly be unable to shoot threes or rebound and the new coach will be thrown out of a record number of MVC games at home an away. Drake is will definitely fall back into the cellar.

Really? A whole 'nother season of 'karma talk'?

*sigh*

[DawgieStyle]

Really? A whole 'nother season of 'karma talk'?

*sigh*

no crap. That whole Karma thing has about worn itself out. As if it has any bearing what so ever on whether you team wins or loses.

It was cute for a couple of games, but after a while, it simply begins to take away from what your team actually accomplishes. Yet you are the ones who claim disrespect from us.

Enough is enough already. Your team wins or loses solely on what they do. Not one thing anyone else says or post has any bearing on that. I know you know that, and I know you do it just to be cute and ha ha funny. But it's not funny anymore, it's annoying.

Do the team you support a favor. Stop. Respect them and quit with the Karma crap.

[Saluki762]

no crap. That whole Karma thing has about worn itself out. As if it has any bearing what so ever on whether you team wins or loses.

It was cute for a couple of games, but after a while, it simply begins to take away from what your team actually accomplishes. Yet you are the ones who claim disrespect from us.

Enough is enough already. Your team wins or loses solely on what they do. Not one thing anyone else says or post has any bearing on that. I know you know that, and I know you do it just to be cute and ha ha funny. But it's not funny anymore, it's annoying.

Do the team you support a favor. Stop. Respect them and quit with the Karma crap.


Is it now time for a joke about your Mom or sister?

[scrove]

I thought people were complainging that mom/sister jokes were overused on here now, so instead:


http://www.truffleshuffle.co.uk/store/images/Monty_Python_Fart_in_your_General_Direction-T-link.jpg

[Dawg_tired]

no crap. That whole Karma thing has about worn itself out. As if it has any bearing what so ever on whether you team wins or loses.

It was cute for a couple of games, but after a while, it simply begins to take away from what your team actually accomplishes. Yet you are the ones who claim disrespect from us.

Enough is enough already. Your team wins or loses solely on what they do. Not one thing anyone else says or post has any bearing on that. I know you know that, and I know you do it just to be cute and ha ha funny. But it's not funny anymore, it's annoying.

Do the team you support a favor. Stop. Respect them and quit with the Karma crap.

You dance with the women that brought you to the dance. I know you can't relate to that DS. Nor can you relate to ever being cute or funny.

[scrove]

no crap. That whole Karma thing has about worn itself out. As if it has any bearing what so ever on whether you team wins or loses.

It was cute for a couple of games, but after a while, it simply begins to take away from what your team actually accomplishes. Yet you are the ones who claim disrespect from us.

Enough is enough already. Your team wins or loses solely on what they do. Not one thing anyone else says or post has any bearing on that. I know you know that, and I know you do it just to be cute and ha ha funny. But it's not funny anymore, it's annoying.

Do the team you support a favor. Stop. Respect them and quit with the Karma crap.

Kind of like how touching a sign, ala Notre Dame football, before a game, or not washing your jock strap or wearing your high school shorts under your uniform, or performing the same routine on gamedays/before freethrows, at bats, etc.
It worked once, so why change?

[DawgieStyle]

You dance with the women that brought you to the dance. I know you can't relate to that DS. Nor can you relate to ever being cute or funny.

how could SIU fans not relate to making the NCAA tourney? We actually won some games in it too...OMG! Yah, and it's been a long enough mourning period, I think it's safe to pile on Drake for getting beat by a 12 seed. Way to represent the valley! I assume that finally ended the talk about Drake being as good as SIU was the season before. Thank god, that was asinine.

Karma didn't take you to the dance. Your team's effort did. Your pathetic karma posturing had zero to do with it. If you think it did, I've got some prime real estate to sell you....."real cheap." First you might want to consult cleo, but she'll predict the same thing.

Show your team some respect. Your school. The whole Karma talk, even if done jokingly, cheapens anything they did. The only thing accountable was them and their effort, screw karma.

[DawgieStyle]

Kind of like how touching a sign, ala Notre Dame football, before a game, or not washing your jock strap or wearing your high school shorts under your uniform, or performing the same routine on gamedays/before freethrows, at bats, etc.
It worked once, so why change?

all meaningless crap. You're either good or your not. no touching of a sign, washing of a jock strp, etc. etc. is going to change that.

[Dawg_tired]

how could SIU fans not relate to making the NCAA tourney? We actually won some games in it too...OMG! Yah, and it's been a long enough mourning period, I think it's safe to pile on Drake for getting beat by a 12 seed. Way to represent the valley! I assume that finally ended the talk about Drake being as good as SIU was the season before. Thank god, that was asinine.

Karma didn't take you to the dance. Your team's effort did. Your pathetic karma posturing had zero to do with it. If you think it did, I've got some prime real estate to sell you....."real cheap." First you might want to consult cleo, but she'll predict the same thing.

Show your team some respect. Your school. The whole Karma talk, even if done jokingly, cheapens anything they did. The only thing accountable was them and their effort, screw karma.

Did everybody else get that I meant that you couldn't relate to going to a dance with women?

[DawgieStyle]

Did everybody else get that I meant that you couldn't relate to going to a dance with women?

I got it, but felt the underlying message was better to address.

[Dawg_tired]

Most posters would realize that I haven 't posted on Valleytalk for quite sometime and that my coming back on post might refer to the tradition that I created last season. Most people would understand the humor in that. Some might smile. You on the other hand are severely constipated, but you do have the scooters when it comes to posting. I would suggest a more fibrous diet, excercise and a stiff drink to kill that bug up your (_o_).

[DawgieStyle]

Most posters would realize that I haven 't posted on Valleytalk for quite sometime and that my coming back on post might refer to the tradition that I created last season. Most people would understand the humor in that. Some might smile. You on the other hand are severely constipated, but you do have the scooters when it comes to posting. I would suggest a more fibrous diet, excercise and a stiff drink to kill that bug up your (_o_).

awww..how cute, you can make pictures while typing......

why the karma thing? I don't get it. It demeans the team you are supposed to be rooting for. Why do you see this as a good thing? It's diminishes what they actually accomplished. I know you mean it as a joke, but even then, it really is an insult rather than a showing of respect.

I guess I fail to see the humor in it. If I was the team, and saw that people were attributing their hard work and success to karma, I'd be pretty upset and disappointed in my fans, even if it is a joke.

[Dawg_tired]

So I take it life hasn't gotten any better for you since the season ended?

[DawgieStyle]

So I take it life hasn't gotten any better for you since the season ended?

sad that you think people's lives on here are tied directly to those in real life. It's a message board. What I say and do here, have no bearing on my life outside of this.

That would be sad indeed.

[Aargh]

It sure didn't take long for this thread to wander into the abyss.

[WSUfan]

It sure didn't take long for this thread to wander into the abyss.

Well, that's the pits!! :wink3: :grin:

[outpost]

I move that the mods delete the hole thread and let us start the discussion over again.

[Coachtrey]

Your team wins or loses solely on what they do. Not one thing anyone else says or post has any bearing on that.

Link?

[Dawg_tired]

Link?

www.dawgiestyle.com/iamthelastword

[WSUbballer]

I'm unimpressed with Dawgie's lame attempt to try to slam Drake 4 months after the season ended even though they proved him wrong in every facet of the game.

Congrats for being the Stool you are.

[WSUbballer]

When did Drake hire Gregg Marshal?

The next time you go for your typical daily Shocker slam, make sure you at least spell the name correctly. It doesn't take long to at least look it up instead of looking like a dilweed.

[DoubleJayAlum]

The next time you go for your typical daily Shocker slam, make sure you at least spell the name correctly. It doesn't take long to at least look it up instead of looking like a dilweed.

It was done on purpose as additional joke. If you've heard the stories about how your coach loses his temper and throws temper tantrums when people misspell his name you'd understand...

[WSUbballer]

It was done on purpose as additional joke. If you've heard the stories about how your coach loses his temper and throws temper tantrums when people misspell his name you'd understand...

Jokes are funnier when they don't have to be explained.

Ease up a touch.

[Ricky Del Rio]

My nominee for the abyss is the Shockers. Dead last.

I predict the Jays will win the Valley and go on to stomp the NCAA field like they always do.

[iSASO]

I have to agree with Ricky. The Shockers in their traditional 11th place and Creighton in their traditional spot as Regular Season MVC Champion, a 7-seed in the NCAA Tournament and two wins over BCS conference teams to reach the Sweet Sixteen.

[Aargh]

I have to agree with Ricky. The Shockers in their traditional 11th place and Creighton in their traditional spot as Regular Season MVC Champion, a 7-seed in the NCAA Tournament and two wins over BCS conference teams to reach the Sweet Sixteen.
I know my memory isn't as good as it once was, but I don't remember that. Glad you reminded me. In fact, I don't remember CU ever winning a game in the NCAA's.

I was hoping I wasn't that far gone. I'll go check out the NCAA records and find the year when CU made the S16. Can't believe I missed that.

Help me out here. I'm pretty certain it didn't happen this century. Should I check the 1900's or the 1800's?

[DoubleJayAlum]

Jokes are funnier when they don't have to be explained.

I accept full responsibilty; I overestimated the intelligence of the reader. I'll try not to do it again.

[WSUbballer]

I accept full responsibilty; I overestimated the intelligence of the reader. I'll try not to do it again.

You also overestimated the spelling of the word responsibility.

[doinit salukistyle]

You also overestimated the spelling of the word responsibility.

really? seriously?

you degrade my posting tactics, and the next thread i open you fall back once again on the grammar police as a comeback?

I can only imagine how you argue in real life. Random Guy "Quit being a douche" WSU Baller "No you're a douche" I totally see you as the type that does that retarded echo comeback.

[outpost]

really? seriously?

you degrade my posting tactics, and the next thread i open you fall back once again on the grammar police as a comeback?

I can only imagine how you argue in real life. Random Guy "Quit being a douche" WSU Baller "No you're a douche" I totally see you as the type that does that retarded echo comeback.

Hey man......you spelled your screen name wrong. Let me help you out.....it's D-O-N-U-T S-A-L-I-V-A-T-O-R.

Just trying to help. Now..........back to the argument.

[MoValley John]

I love the argument over who is the biggest douche! Cassic! :clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Ricky Del Rio]

I love the argument over who is the biggest douche! Cassic! :clap::clap::clap::clap:


It looks like a National Guard Armory.

What is it?

[outpost]

I wonder what Brid thinks about The Abyss......I haven't seen any of his puny Boob-Jay scribbling out here for awhile.

C'mon Brid, come on out here and tell us all what you think.

:horse:

Brid

[iSASO]

Ricky, it's "The House that Barry Built".

[upsaluki]

Jokes are funnier when they don't have to be explained.

Ease up a touch.
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchon.

PS I spelled kitchen wrong so you'd have a comeback.:lol:

[WSUbballer]

really? seriously?

you degrade my posting tactics, and the next thread i open you fall back once again on the grammar police as a comeback?

I can only imagine how you argue in real life. Random Guy "Quit being a douche" WSU Baller "No you're a douche" I totally see you as the type that does that retarded echo comeback.

It's not a comeback. It's a fact of life. People who think they're witty and intelligent on here do deserve to be informed that they can't do some of the basics in life - spelling. It's not hard, but only retards defend it. Not surprisingly, that's been your niche the week you finally returned back to VT.

Do you totally see it? Do ya, dude? I totally see you as a repositioned Californian who, in an argument in reality, uses movie quotes in every comeback you do. Random guy - "Quit being a d-bag" doinit salukistyle "Stupid is as stupid does, by the way best movie quote everrrrrrrrrrr, like totally"

Go back to the off-topic forums. That's where you excelled at for years. You just have no game here.

[WSUbballer]

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchon.

PS I spelled kitchen wrong so you'd have a comeback.:lol:

Ohh, I can take the heat. The thing is, I'm only feeling cool ocean breezes. You missed the point (Saluki fan - makes sense). He overcomplicated what could have been a simple 'joke'. That's what made it less funny, and thus, had less zing.

[upsaluki]

Ohh, I can take the heat. The thing is, I'm only feeling cool ocean breezes. You missed the point (Saluki fan - makes sense). He overcomplicated what could have been a simple 'joke'. That's what made it less funny, and thus, had less zing.

Seemed to get a rise out of you, perhaps you missed the point. :lol: I guess this is the point where you ask me how your nuts taste. :lol: Stick to going toe to toe with DS. I think that's your comfort zone.

[doinit salukistyle]

So let me get this straight...the big boys in mens basketball forum argue by proper spelling. If that is the case, then I don't want to be a big boy like wsuballer. In reality, grammar police is the refuge of idgets who aren't as funny as they think they are.

btw, i see you were still too dumb to figure out how to post the link there...which my 4 month old could have figured out by now. but hey, you have the spelling, right? congrats for having firefox that does the spell checking for you...we're all much better now for your spelling prowess.

another btw why are you obsessing over dawgiestyle? you even have him in your signature?

[outpost]

...which my 4 month old could have figured out by now.

SPR is one thing, but I'm Calling BS on this one.

[WSUbballer]

So let me get this straight...the big boys in mens basketball forum argue by proper spelling. If that is the case, then I don't want to be a big boy like wsuballer. In reality, grammar police is the refuge of idgets who aren't as funny as they think they are.

btw, i see you were still too dumb to figure out how to post the link there...which my 4 month old could have figured out by now. but hey, you have the spelling, right? congrats for having firefox that does the spell checking for you...we're all much better now for your spelling prowess.

another btw why are you obsessing over dawgiestyle? you even have him in your signature?

Wow, that was a lightning quick response. Why don't you watch your kid, instead of patrolling my posts on an internet forum? Don't tell me your one of those loser parents who spends the whole day online surfing, while neglecting your kid and letting them fend for themselves, and asking them to make you a sandwich and grab you a beer from the fridge.. :no:

Honestly, I bet you couldn't name a player on the SIU roster. You're one of those 'eomaha' type posters, who only comes here to argue, quote movie lines, or advertise other forums. You fit under the first two. It would be nice for you to actually discuss something sports related for the first time in over a year or two, but that would seem to be mission impossible-ish..

It's not hard to see my link has been deemed inactive. I'm pretty sure I know how to post a link, but thanks for the interest in my signature. I admire your linking prowess. Teach me, nutsucker, teach meeee.

[doinit salukistyle]

Wow, that was a lightning quick response. Why don't you watch your kid, instead of patrolling my posts on an internet forum? Don't tell me your one of those loser parents who spends the whole day online surfing, while neglecting your kid and letting them fend for themselves, and asking them to make you a sandwich and grab you a beer from the fridge.. :no:

Honestly, I bet you couldn't name a player on the SIU roster. You're one of those 'eomaha' type posters, who only comes here to argue, quote movie lines, or advertise other forums. You fit under the first two. It would be nice for you to actually discuss something sports related for the first time in over a year or two, but that would seem to be mission impossible-ish..

It's not hard to see my link has been deemed inactive. I'm pretty sure I know how to post a link, but thanks for the interest in my signature. I admire your linking prowess. Teach me, nutsucker, teach meeee.

well, the ole google found...well what do you know...nice try

"My name is wsuballer, and i'm a complete dip*****. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3453853)

"doinit, you're a nutsucker"

there i typed your comeback for you...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3453853

hey look I was able to put it in again, i bet i could put it in my signature, and it'll work. But you win...I'll leave you alone to your spats with dawgiestyle and dja.

btw, the raising the kids comment...crossed the line...enjoy valleytalk and its 5 members, you're a big part of its membership dwindling

[GarH]

Gotta love a thread like this!!!! Out of 64 posts there are about a six that are on topic.There was a certain prophetic quality to it's title that you gotta love though.

[Aargh]

Gotta love a thread like this!!!! Out of 64 posts there are about a six that are on topic.There was a certain prophetic quality to it's title that you gotta love though.

That was too funny. ROFL does no justice to that post.

[DUShock]

I can't believe I've wasted four minutes of my time reading this now typical thread. I'm even more puzzled as to why I'm posting a reply about, well, nothing :helpsmilie:

Basketball season cannot arrive too soon!

[dawg]

Same here... my 401 K has turned into a 200.50 K.

:banghead::ranting::bash::chair::horse::down::cryb aby::bangin::sweat::confused::crazy::boxed::tv_hor ror::wacko::puke::thumbdown::furious::mad3::cry::s adwalk::stretcher::dontgetit::shock::blowup::cryin g::sweatingbullets::confused1::mad2::twisted::blin k::turned::censored::shock1::sick::jawdrop::sad::e ek::shocking::unsure::argue::devil::wassat::nuke:: surrender::box::alien::bag::disguise2::whip::oops: :wounded2::shocked::yucky::crutch::angry::surprise ::helpsmilie:



LOL. That was hilarious. I know your pain. All we can do is laugh about it.

This thread is also hilarious. I haven't been around for awhile, but its strangely comforting to know that you tools are always here arguing about spelling, nutt sacks, coaches etc ... all is right with the world.

[DawgieStyle]

everyone keeps telling baller to go back to arguing with me.....guys, he can't. I put him on ignore months ago. That's why he's fighting with you, because I'm not.

I got tired of his stalker ways. It was sad and pathetic. I would post in a thread, and no more than 5 minutes later, there he was to post in it, not about the topic being discussed, but something about me. It go so distracting to the other posters on the board, I felt it was my obligation to put him on ignore.

I thought by doing that, the board had been a lot more tolerable lately, with us not going back and forth, at least I had hoped it was. However, I see he has found other SIU fans to try and engage. I'm sorry guys.

I wish I understood his hate for SIU, and it's fans, but I don't. The best thing you can do is place him on ignore. Eventually he will run out of people who will read his post, and that will be the end of it.

[WSUfan]

DawgieStyle: I read your posts in part because I'm waiting for you to slip up and admit you like NCAA baseball. And volleyball: http://www.wellingtondailynews.com/news/x1470906002/Lungren-to-play-volleyball-in-Spain Like dawg: http://valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=7064&page=3
We do care about baseball. Many of us wish for the return of the Itchy Jones days. I don't understand the politics involved with the current Coach, but the consensus seems to be that were stuck in a rut until he's gone.

[DawgieStyle]

DawgieStyle: I read your posts in part because I'm waiting for you to slip up and admit you like NCAA baseball. And volleyball: http://www.wellingtondailynews.com/news/x1470906002/Lungren-to-play-volleyball-in-Spain Like dawg: http://valleytalk.net/showthread.php?t=7064&page=3

let me reassure you on something. I don't like either.

I have never been to a college baseball game, never will. I've never been to a college volley ball match, and never will until the girls start wearing bikinis or nothing at all.

I don't even watch professional baseball until september when the games count, and even then, it better be a damn good game to trump football season.

[WSUfan]

let me reassure you on something. I don't like either.

I have never been to a college baseball game, never will. I've never been to a college volley ball match, and never will until the girls start wearing bikinis or nothing at all.

I don't even watch professional baseball until september when the games count, and even then, it better be a damn good game to trump football season.

So if SIU make it to the CWS championship, you wouldn't watch? Right?

[upsaluki]

So if SIU make it to the CWS championship, you wouldn't watch? Right?
I would watch, but I don't follow college baseball at all. I'm pretty sure Cal State Fullerton is good. Other than that, I couldn't tell you who else. Aluminum bats are for little leaguers.

[DawgieStyle]

So if SIU make it to the CWS championship, you wouldn't watch? Right?

probably not. Just like I don't watch our softball team when they've been good, or our world record women's hammer thrower, or any other sport SIU has excelled in.

the only sporting events I have ever watched regarding SIU athletics since 1997 (year I was a freshman) are basketball and football. That's it.

I've never even been inside the baseball stadium. I don't even know what it looks like.

[iSASO]

So, don't ever wonder why your University President left SIU to come to WSU.

[dogdays]

There is nothing to wonder about...he was acting chancellor at SIU and they chose not to make him the permanent .

[WSUbballer]

everyone keeps telling baller to go back to arguing with me.....guys, he can't. I put him on ignore months ago. That's why he's fighting with you, because I'm not.

I got tired of his stalker ways. It was sad and pathetic. I would post in a thread, and no more than 5 minutes later, there he was to post in it, not about the topic being discussed, but something about me. It go so distracting to the other posters on the board, I felt it was my obligation to put him on ignore.

I thought by doing that, the board had been a lot more tolerable lately, with us not going back and forth, at least I had hoped it was. However, I see he has found other SIU fans to try and engage. I'm sorry guys.

I wish I understood his hate for SIU, and it's fans, but I don't. The best thing you can do is place him on ignore. Eventually he will run out of people who will read his post, and that will be the end of it.

I knew this would happen. I proved my point. I continually posted responses after you 'claimed' to ignore me just to see if you would. But looky here, I get 6 paragraphs about me, me, me, from you, you, you. You claim to ignore me but you don't. You still read what I have to say. It's obvious. You just don't wanna admit it. And this proves it. Keep 'ignoring' me and then bringing me up every other time you post. I love it.

Oh, and I still love you.

[MoValley John]

From WSUbballer:
I knew this would happen. I proved my point. I continually posted responses after you 'claimed' to ignore me just to see if you would. But looky here, I get 6 paragraphs about me, me, me, from you, you, you. You claim to ignore me but you don't. You still read what I have to say. It's obvious. You just don't wanna admit it. And this proves it. Keep 'ignoring' me and then bringing me up every other time you post. I love it.

Oh, and I still love you.

Dawgie has you on ignore. I just wanted to make sure he read it.

[WSUbballer]

From WSUbballer:
I knew this would happen. I proved my point. I continually posted responses after you 'claimed' to ignore me just to see if you would. But looky here, I get 6 paragraphs about me, me, me, from you, you, you. You claim to ignore me but you don't. You still read what I have to say. It's obvious. You just don't wanna admit it. And this proves it. Keep 'ignoring' me and then bringing me up every other time you post. I love it.

Oh, and I still love you.

Dawgie has you on ignore. I just wanted to make sure he read it.

I appreciate it MVJ, I really do. But every time Dawgie sees that I've posted, he logs off his name and reads it as a guest. But this will make things a little easier for him I guess.

[MoValley John]

I appreciate it MVJ, I really do. But every time Dawgie sees that I've posted, he logs off his name and reads it as a guest. But this will make things a little easier for him I guess.

You can do that? Really? I better not try, I can't ever remember my password and everytime I clean out my history and cookies (so my wife can't see the porn I've surfed) I have to do the stupid forgot your password thing. Its a pain in the arse. I would quit surfing the porn but JJClamdip's wife is hot!

[DawgieStyle]

You can do that? Really? I better not try, I can't ever remember my password and everytime I clean out my history and cookies (so my wife can't see the porn I've surfed) I have to do the stupid forgot your password thing. Its a pain in the arse. I would quit surfing the porn but JJClamdip's wife is hot!

he does realize even though i don't want to, i can see his post when some one quotes him.

Also, my reference to him in my other post was in response to other SIU fans who brought him up in discussion. It had nothing to do with purposely reading his post.

[DoubleJayAlum]

From WSUbballer:
I knew this would happen. I proved my point. I continually posted responses after you 'claimed' to ignore me just to see if you would. But looky here, I get 6 paragraphs about me, me, me, from you, you, you. You claim to ignore me but you don't. You still read what I have to say. It's obvious. You just don't wanna admit it. And this proves it. Keep 'ignoring' me and then bringing me up every other time you post. I love it.

Oh, and I still love you.

Dawgie has you on ignore. I just wanted to make sure he read it.

FYI- All you have to do is hit the quote key and everything that you've quoted is available to anyone who has the poster on ignore...

[MoValley John]

Dawgie can't ignore baller, the board needs it!!! If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week. You all say you don't want this stuff, but the proof is in the pudding. Prior to today, my last post was on Tuesday, I was on several short trips and didn't have any time. Dawgie and baller didn't post much, if any, either. What happened to the board? We three were gone, yet with the break in smack, IT WENT COMPLETELY DEAD! It was the opportunity for all you "I hate this childish stuff" people to get on, post, relay ideas and avoid any smack! What happened? You had nothing to post about! Zero! My God, MVCtalk.com almost had as many posts as Valleytalk! I just checked, yep, mvctalk had ZERO!

Speaking of mvctalk.com, how come all you "I hate Valleytalk guys aren't owning that site? You should be filling it up with all your nicey nice stuff. Here is the answer to why the low post count on mvctalk: without banter, it sucks! It will always suck. The fact of the matter is this, you guys all love what you say you hate and continue to post on a site you say has no merit. Anyone who claims to hate Valleytalk, yet is still reading and or posting here is full of shat!

[upsaluki]

he does realize even though i don't want to, i can see his post when some one quotes him.

Also, my reference to him in my other post was in response to other SIU fans who brought him up in discussion. It had nothing to do with purposely reading his post.

It's a little sad. At this point, you'd hope the guy would get a hobby.

[MoValley John]

FYI- All you have to do is hit the quote key and everything that you've quoted is available to anyone who has the poster on ignore...

I try to be consistent in the way I present baller's posts to Dawgie. I'm all about consistency.

[WSUbballer]

It's a little sad. At this point, you'd hope the guy would get a hobby.

A defender of the Dawgie? Are you Dawgie's wifey? That's a little sad.

This is a hobby. It's a fun one at it and it seems I'm quite good at it as the guy still thinks enough about me to mention me from time to time.

So if this isn't a hobby for you, then what is it? I'd really like to know. But thanks for your continual input. It shows that you care about 'us'.. :yes:

[WSUbballer]

Dawgie can't ignore baller, the board needs it!!! If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week. You all say you don't want this stuff, but the proof is in the pudding. Prior to today, my last post was on Tuesday, I was on several short trips and didn't have any time. Dawgie and baller didn't post much, if any, either. What happened to the board? We three were gone, yet with the break in smack, IT WENT COMPLETELY DEAD! It was the opportunity for all you "I hate this childish stuff" people to get on, post, relay ideas and avoid any smack! What happened? You had nothing to post about! Zero! My God, MVCtalk.com almost had as many posts as Valleytalk! I just checked, yep, mvctalk had ZERO!

Speaking of mvctalk.com, how come all you "I hate Valleytalk guys aren't owning that site? You should be filling it up with all your nicey nice stuff. Here is the answer to why the low post count on mvctalk: without banter, it sucks! It will always suck. The fact of the matter is this, you guys all love what you say you hate and continue to post on a site you say has no merit. Anyone who claims to hate Valleytalk, yet is still reading and or posting here is full of shat!

:clap: Dawgie thinks he's a god now. He's too good for me. I could never ask a god to undo his ignoring of me.

With that said, I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially in the second paragraph. All those "VT haters", especially of the Carbondale side who love to complain about VT, but then check in probably on a daily basis and give regular scouting reports back at Salukitalk headquarters. It's a fun game of who can be more hypocritical.

And my God MVJ, I haven't seen a picture post in quite a while from you. Step it up.

[iSASO]

Dawgie can't ignore baller, the board needs it!!! If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week. You all say you don't want this stuff, but the proof is in the pudding. Prior to today, my last post was on Tuesday, I was on several short trips and didn't have any time. Dawgie and baller didn't post much, if any, either. What happened to the board? We three were gone, yet with the break in smack, IT WENT COMPLETELY DEAD! It was the opportunity for all you "I hate this childish stuff" people to get on, post, relay ideas and avoid any smack! What happened? You had nothing to post about! Zero! My God, MVCtalk.com almost had as many posts as Valleytalk! I just checked, yep, mvctalk had ZERO!

Speaking of mvctalk.com, how come all you "I hate Valleytalk guys aren't owning that site? You should be filling it up with all your nicey nice stuff. Here is the answer to why the low post count on mvctalk: without banter, it sucks! It will always suck. The fact of the matter is this, you guys all love what you say you hate and continue to post on a site you say has no merit. Anyone who claims to hate Valleytalk, yet is still reading and or posting here is full of shat!

Yes, MoJohn, they want it , they gotta have it but then they complain about it when they get it. I too have been slammed at work and at home so it's been wide open for the Mensa Crew to rule the chicken house. But they choked on it.

[MoValley John]

Yes, MoJohn, they want it , they gotta have it but then they complain about it when they get it. I too have been slammed at work and at home so it's been wide open for the Mensa Crew to rule the chicken house. But they choked on it.

I can't believe that since most of the recent "banter" has been isolated to this thread, that the other threads aren't teeming with original thoughts of the coming season, bold predictions of the future and "insider" scoops about what is happening at each Valley basketball program. This is what they wanted, so they got it. Instead of taking the ball and running, all we have gotten is is very light discussion regarding a poorly devised ESPN breakdown of "prestige" basketball programs. Is that original, copying and pasting a story from ESPN? What am I thinking, that is great stuff! :no:

Yep, the "troublemakers" go away and this place turns into a ghost town. The fact of the matter is these people want the smack, they just don't want to be in the middle of it. Missouri State fans think it's great when I bust on Wichita State, but if I point my finger their way, oh my God! It's killing the board! The same can go with the posters from all the other schools. Well, except Evansville, they pretty much just take it.

The fact of the matter is this, the "troublemakers" trash talk each other, but at the same time, also bring fresh ideas to the board. And whether or not the do gooders want to admit it, they all read it. You can watch a thread that contains a recent post from iSASO, Dawgie, me or any of the other "problems" and shortly after it is posted, there is a spike in views to that thread, I've watched the statistics. So they can say they hate it all they want, but it's just like the Jim Rome Show, lots of people say they can't stand him and don't listen, but ratings prove otherwise.

[WSUbballer]

I can't believe that since most of the recent "banter" has been isolated to this thread, that the other threads aren't teeming with original thoughts of the coming season, bold predictions of the future and "insider" scoops about what is happening at each Valley basketball program. This is what they wanted, so they got it. Instead of taking the ball and running, all we have gotten is is very light discussion regarding a poorly devised ESPN breakdown of "prestige" basketball programs. Is that original, copying and pasting a story from ESPN? What am I thinking, that is great stuff! :no:

Yep, the "troublemakers" go away and this place turns into a ghost town. The fact of the matter is these people want the smack, they just don't want to be in the middle of it. Missouri State fans think it's great when I bust on Wichita State, but if I point my finger their way, oh my God! It's killing the board! The same can go with the posters from all the other schools. Well, except Evansville, they pretty much just take it.

The fact of the matter is this, the "troublemakers" trash talk each other, but at the same time, also bring fresh ideas to the board. And whether or not the do gooders want to admit it, they all read it. You can watch a thread that contains a recent post from iSASO, Dawgie, me or any of the other "problems" and shortly after it is posted, there is a spike in views to that thread, I've watched the statistics. So they can say they hate it all they want, but it's just like the Jim Rome Show, lots of people say they can't stand him and don't listen, but ratings prove otherwise.

A non-fiction post. A good one at that.

Too bad Dawgie can't take the heat. He plays ball like a freakin' girl.

[DawgieStyle]

I can't believe that since most of the recent "banter" has been isolated to this thread, that the other threads aren't teeming with original thoughts of the coming season, bold predictions of the future and "insider" scoops about what is happening at each Valley basketball program. This is what they wanted, so they got it. Instead of taking the ball and running, all we have gotten is is very light discussion regarding a poorly devised ESPN breakdown of "prestige" basketball programs. Is that original, copying and pasting a story from ESPN? What am I thinking, that is great stuff! :no:

Yep, the "troublemakers" go away and this place turns into a ghost town. The fact of the matter is these people want the smack, they just don't want to be in the middle of it. Missouri State fans think it's great when I bust on Wichita State, but if I point my finger their way, oh my God! It's killing the board! The same can go with the posters from all the other schools. Well, except Evansville, they pretty much just take it.

The fact of the matter is this, the "troublemakers" trash talk each other, but at the same time, also bring fresh ideas to the board. And whether or not the do gooders want to admit it, they all read it. You can watch a thread that contains a recent post from iSASO, Dawgie, me or any of the other "problems" and shortly after it is posted, there is a spike in views to that thread, I've watched the statistics. So they can say they hate it all they want, but it's just like the Jim Rome Show, lots of people say they can't stand him and don't listen, but ratings prove otherwise.


I don't have a problem with you, or the way you and I post or DJA, or a few others.

but you have to admit that what baller does borders on crazy stalker.

He isn't having fun, he seriously dislikes me and frankly the way he goes about it from thread to thread, post to post, etc. etc. is a little disturbing.

I don't mind having fun, talking smack, banter, that's what we do best. But there is a line you can cross in my opinion. Baller crossed it a long time ago, which is why I have him on ignore.

If I didn't like smack, or banter, or having a good time, I'd put you on ignore MVJ. I haven't and don't want to. Baller isn't posting like you tho, he has made it personal, and that is why I choose to ignore him.

[MoValley John]

I don't have a problem with you, or the way you and I post or DJA, or a few others.

but you have to admit that what baller does borders on crazy stalker.

He isn't having fun, he seriously dislikes me and frankly the way he goes about it from thread to thread, post to post, etc. etc. is a little disturbing.

I don't mind having fun, talking smack, banter, that's what we do best. But there is a line you can cross in my opinion. Baller crossed it a long time ago, which is why I have him on ignore.

If I didn't like smack, or banter, or having a good time, I'd put you on ignore MVJ. I haven't and don't want to. Baller isn't posting like you tho, he has made it personal, and that is why I choose to ignore him.

The two of you need to meet up in Springfield, fist fight for a few minutes, then buy each other a beer and get over it. That, or simply leg wrestle to see who wins. that's all I got to say about that.

[MoValley John]

Where is gosmsgo when you need him?

[MoValley John]

There he is!

[Brave2001]

There he is!

Is that a cell phone hes trying to pass?

What the hell?

[CousinMose]

Did he finish the race?

[outpost]

If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week.

Post #1

[outpost]

If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week.

Post #2

[WSUbballer]

I don't have a problem with you, or the way you and I post or DJA, or a few others.

but you have to admit that what baller does borders on crazy stalker.

He isn't having fun, he seriously dislikes me and frankly the way he goes about it from thread to thread, post to post, etc. etc. is a little disturbing.

I don't mind having fun, talking smack, banter, that's what we do best. But there is a line you can cross in my opinion. Baller crossed it a long time ago, which is why I have him on ignore.

If I didn't like smack, or banter, or having a good time, I'd put you on ignore MVJ. I haven't and don't want to. Baller isn't posting like you tho, he has made it personal, and that is why I choose to ignore him.

You still can't keep my name off your keyboard.. You're defeating your whole purpose to your little 'strategy'. I personally think it's funny as hell how contradicting you can be and not even know it.

You're such an easy target. You claim that no things get to you and that at one time ignoring posts was for pu$$ies.. but I broke through. I'm making you eat your own words.

LOL.. I made it 'personal'. Aw.. are you scared Dawgie? Are you scared I might jump through the computer and ring your little architect neck? Don't worry. I'm not stupid enough to jump through a computer where there's a guy waiting to strike me with a light saber on the other end.

Once a tool, always a tool..

[outpost]

If you think I'm wrong, just look at the drop in posts over the last week.

Post #3......outpost just doing outpost's part. outpost has been a little busy lately.....but along the lines of posting, outpost would like to declare - in this very original post of outpost - that outpost believes that WSU is now emerging from any so-called abyss that many non-outpost posters have posted lately.

Short and Sweet.......WSU is now post-abyss, per outpost.

outpost is sure that many non-outpost posters will try to shout down outpost over outpost's beliefs.......but outpost has thought about this at length.......and although outpost respects the views and posts of many non-outpost posters out here on VT, outpost will stick by outpost's beliefs.

Put that on your bikes and ride them around for awhile.

[Brave2001]

You still can't keep my name off your keyboard.. You're defeating your whole purpose to your little 'strategy'. I personally think it's funny as hell how contradicting you can be and not even know it.

You're such an easy target. You claim that no things get to you and that at one time ignoring posts was for pu$$ies.. but I broke through. I'm making you eat your own words.

LOL.. I made it 'personal'. Aw.. are you scared Dawgie? Are you scared I might jump through the computer and ring your little architect neck? Don't worry. I'm not stupid enough to jump through a computer where there's a guy waiting to strike me with a light saber on the other end.

Once a tool, always a tool..

Such hatered. Does balller need a hug?

[WSUbballer]

Such hatered. Does balller need a hug?

Ya.. lots of 'hatered'.

Ya.. I need a hug. Not from you though. I prefer my crush Dawgie to give it to me.

[WSUfan]

I can't believe that since most of the recent "banter" has been isolated to this thread, that the other threads aren't teeming with original thoughts of the coming season, bold predictions of the future and "insider" scoops about what is happening at each Valley basketball program.

How about this "insider" scoop?
The July 21, 2008 Daily Show was awesome. http://www.thedailyshow.com/ Wyatt Cenac has resolved all of the racial issues in America and John McCain has taught us geography http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16270.html (also http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/22/1213832.aspx). :lol:

[DUBulldog]

Ya.. lots of 'hatered'.

If you're going to throw out the spelling cop thing, I should point out that in your post it should be "wring your neck", not "ring your neck".

But, you are a wise man....never jump through a computer when there might be a light saber waiting for you at the other end. :lol: That was good stuff.

[MoValley John]

Post #3......outpost just doing outpost's part. outpost has been a little busy lately.....but along the lines of posting, outpost would like to declare - in this very original post of outpost - that outpost believes that WSU is now emerging from any so-called abyss that many non-outpost posters have posted lately.

Short and Sweet.......WSU is now post-abyss, per outpost.

outpost is sure that many non-outpost posters will try to shout down outpost over outpost's beliefs.......but outpost has thought about this at length.......and although outpost respects the views and posts of many non-outpost posters out here on VT, outpost will stick by outpost's beliefs.

Put that on your bikes and ride them around for awhile.

Weak.

[MoValley John]

If you're going to throw out the spelling cop thing, I should point out that in your post it should be "wring your neck", not "ring your neck".

But, you are a wise man....never jump through a computer when there might be a light saber waiting for you at the other end. :lol: That was good stuff.

It all depends on the context, monkey man.

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[outpost]

Weak.

So's your mom.....according to Dawgie. DS said that she was an easy pin on the mat.

SPR rules, baby...!!

(This thread was reviewed by outpost for spelling and grammatical edits, and outpost has approved it for release)