End Of CU Game Video

[CMTWU]

http://www.wowt.com/sports/headlines/2496481.html

[barkeep1967]

Holy Crap.

No wonder DA popped a blood vessle.

[Nyghtewynd]

Both of the calls were really, REALLY close. The CU defender was off of his feet a bit on the block/charge, so I think they got that one right, even though a no-call would have probably been better. You can't tell on the second one. The U defender has his hands up in the air like he didn't touch him, but the contact would have come on the side closest to the CU bench.

[CMTWU]

If there was no contact on Johnnie's shot, the ball would have probably not ended up on Creighton's bench.

[Chet33]

Wow!!! CU got the bad end of both plays at the end of the game. IMO, Watts clearly had position for the charge. Matheis got hit on the arm by a defender approaching from behind, then got hit with the body. The only way that's not a foul is if time expired before he let go of the ball. Given the contact, I'm not sure that should have mattered. Too bad. Great season, Bluejays.

[BearMANIAC]

I don't know about the shot...didn't look like the defender touched him, but that was NOT a blocking foul...charge all the way. I've never seen Dana freak out like that.

[barkeep1967]

On the charge he lifted his foot right at contact. That was a player controll foul period.

On the last play he ran into his shoulder. There is no doubt there was solid contact.

[CURx]

What I find the most interesting is watch the slow motion of the blocking foul and see when the referee in front of the Miami bench, who called the foul raised his arm to signal a foul. The video literally cut away before he raised his arm. The foul on Johnnie is the right call...........A NO CALL JUST LIKE THE BLOCK SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!!! Referees just cannot take games into their own hands like they did on the blocking call.

[cubluejay]

i think that both calls were very questionable...i just don't think a game should be decided in that manner...send it to overtime and give them 5 minutes to battle. why couldn't they review the plays? it's just really sad to see a season end this way...

[Fraydog]

When you watch it in slow mo, it's clear to me the refs blew both calls. Watts was set and that should have been a charge and there was clearly contact on Mathies' shot.

Terrible performance by the officials, and I think Altman had every right to flip out in that manner. He's normally a mild guy, and it takes something really outrageous to irritate him. Well, the outrageous happened tonight.

[shootingbear]

The defender "body" checked the shot at the end and threw him self into the shooter - clearly.

the blocking foul was clearly a charge.

CU and the valley jobbed - again.

[Panthera Pardus]

Wow. So I see it's come to the Big Bad Power conferences resorting to cheating to keep the Valley down. What a horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE series of calls.:ranting:

[CreightonRx]

what's worse is they actually blew the wistle on that block on watts after the shot missed and we rebounded. The wistle blew, and we all knew a foul was called and then the ref signaled a blcok about 5 seconds later. What a joke, I feel horrible for the seniors.

[redbirdtim]

Sorry Jays fans if you lost, but I hate to say it, I slowed down the footage and played it several times. I do agree that the CU player was getting off his feet and you can see him kinda bump forward into the shooter. To call him set is a tough call, but he clearly shuffled his feet a little bit forward and bumped his body into him. That you can't dispute happened. Sorry, but it's a block in that situation. Maybe a no-call by some refs, but certainly not a charge.

Now the Matthies thing is a different story. It is very tough to tell on that. Could be part Matthies throwing his body into the defender hoping for the foul and part blocking foul. They should have let him have the shot. The defender shouldn't even have tried to get in front of him. Altman went psycho though. That happens in the first half, he's t'd up for sure.

Tough loss Jays...

[JayPak]

Ummm.. do you really think DA would have reacted that way in the first half, when it would not be costing his players their season? Have any of you ever seen Dana T'd up? Cmon, there's a reason he and 10,000 other people were going ballistic.

[WuGameClan]

Did you see the assistant coaches behind Altman? LMAO!! its like they were feeding off of Altman, they were mad too, but when Altman went after the refs, it looked like they felt obligated to follow suit. Then Altman hesitates for a second, and they suddenly stop. He then continues his advance and they follow, like grade school children behind their big brother. Of course the refs, like little girls, ran for their lives.

2 horrible calls

I wouldn’t feel bad; next year looks very promising for the jays.

[Panthera Pardus]

Nate Funk comes back...

I just felt a chill in the air. SOOOO COLD.:fear:

[Ricky Del Rio]

http://www.wowt.com/sports/headlines/2496481.html

Wow! A damn tough break.

[DUShock]

Okay. who's the Einstein who invited the Valley ref's? :doh:

Con gratulations to CU for a fine season.

Go Valley!!

Go Shocks!!!!

[Miami Redbird Fan]

I watched the whole game. Those two were definitely tough calls. Personally, I thought they both should have been no-calls. That said, Miami outplayed Creighton and probably deserved to win. When you let it come down to one last play you certainly leave it in the officials' hands. You don't want to do that.

Remember, if Mathies makes his free throw they would have at least forced overtime. Bottom line: if Creighton is completely healthy they probably win this game. They weren't and Miami outplayed them in this particular game.

Given all of the injuries this year, Altman has likely had his greatest coaching year to date. The guy never ceases to amaze me. :jays: :valley:

[Tasmanian Devil]

I must've been looking at a different video than the people on here saying the blocking foul was a good call. That's one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I thought it was closer to a charge than a block but at worst it should've at least been a no call.

[engrshock]

I must've been looking at a different video than the people on here saying the blocking foul was a good call. That's one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I thought it was closer to a charge than a block but at worst it should've at least been a no call.

I agree the Miami player jumped into the CU player who appeared to have set his position. Using the same criteria i.e. player jumping into contact the last play should have been a foul. Still had the CU player made his free throw after the last basket the game would have been tied. That was a great comeback by CU only to be slammed at the end.

[jdoolsiu]

I've said if before, and I'll say it again.

The greatest and most forgotten call of all-time is the 'no-call'. You just don't see it anymore.

An offensive player just can't run into a player like that and expect to not get a foul called on him. But under 20 seconds, any incidental contact should be left away.

It's a shame. Fans complain about everything when it comes to calls, but the truth is there needs to be less fouls, more jump balls, and more freeplay. No one understands that THIS will be what helps scoring in the game.

Both of those calls should've been no calls.
dools

[LincolnJay]

Both of those calls should've been no calls.
dools

Exactly, you can't call one and not the other. It should have been a no call and on to overtime since CU grabbed the rebound on that miss.

[torear]

The block on Watts is horrible. There's no way to defend that.

With about 3 seconds left, unless a team is gaining a clear unfair advantage, you don't call that. Especially considering the game is tied. If it's that close (and considering how we're all watching it in slow mo to try and find any justification for calling a block), you let it stand and there's 5 more minutes to duke it out.

The call on Mathies is generally the sort of call I would agree you don't call... but considering what you did on the other end, you have to call that. Simply have to.

Miami was distinctly more talented at every position and they out played us for most of the game. However, you can't take it away from the kids like that after they put together that furious run to come all the way back. That's chicken*****.

You can't change what happened, but there's no excuse for that crap.

[CUJaysFan]

Sorry Jays fans if you lost, but I hate to say it, I slowed down the footage and played it several times. I do agree that the CU player was getting off his feet and you can see him kinda bump forward into the shooter. To call him set is a tough call, but he clearly shuffled his feet a little bit forward and bumped his body into him. That you can't dispute happened. Sorry, but it's a block in that situation. Maybe a no-call by some refs, but certainly not a charge.

Now the Matthies thing is a different story. It is very tough to tell on that. Could be part Matthies throwing his body into the defender hoping for the foul and part blocking foul. They should have let him have the shot. The defender shouldn't even have tried to get in front of him. Altman went psycho though. That happens in the first half, he's t'd up for sure.

Tough loss Jays...

i don't think you understand the rule - it is not about setting your feet - but about "establishing position" which watts clearly did - the fact that it also came late - and from an official who was not in position to even blow his whistle makes it worse.

there is no defending the call - period.

i would be interested in shocker ref's opinion as he is generally a level headed sort - and understands how to apply the rule.