Up 15, with five seconds to go...

[kabullseye]

....and you just gotta bust the threeball.

Excuse the shot if you must, but the group hug and celebration at mid-court?

[WuGameClan]

are you talking about Cameron Ledfords 3..cuz if you are you know nothing

[DCShockerFan]

Ah, ValleyTalk, how we've missed thee....

[WuGameClan]

yeah, that post was a little cold. the thing is cam ledford is a pre-med major with 4.0 gpa and has been a walk on for 4 years, thats tough...in this time he as played only a couple of minutes. he is devoted to this team even tho he knows he will never play a meaningful minute. the shot clock was winding down and it was an extreamly low percentage shot from that far out. his team huged him because they were happy that a player and person such as him got a piece of the pie, however small it might have been. he is our teams Rudy and our players were happy for him. so just cry about it.

[kabullseye]

Like I said, excuse the shot if you will.

The celebration of the made shot was typical, and tactless.

[dawg_tired nemesis]

SHHHHH!!!! Grownups talking......

[kabullseye]

It smacked of...something that Shocker fans would agree is no fun to watch...something nauseating....what is it....what did it resemble....ahhhhh....yes.....watching University of Miami football.

Act like you have been in the endzone before.

[WuGameClan]

you just dont get it...he hadnt been in the endzone before. why cant players celebrate, they werent happy that they beat ISU by three more points than they would have, and had sean O hit that they woundnt have cared. emotions...players have them and express them.

[kabullseye]

Celebrate all night long if you need to! Looked bad on TV. Period.

[WuGameClan]

i can live with that. W. period.

[shockinphi]

How bad is going to look tonight when you get hammered by Missouri State. You are going to be looking at this season as "what could have been".

[topher79]

Looked bad on TV. Period.

What looks bad on TV is purple. Period.

[kabullseye]

Bradley was up by 7, with 7 seconds to go. Dribbled the clock out, and acted like they had been in the end zone before.

[NoPlaceLikeDome]

What looks bad on TV is purple. Period.

You felt the need to stoop so low as to make fun of a school's colors.

Comebacks have sure dropped off these days...

[Aargh]

Sr. walkon with 22 minutes all season has the ball in the MVC tourney in probably the last time he'll touch the ball for WSU. Ledford was 0-4 all season on 3-balls. No WSU players make moves to get the ball. Shot clock is down.

Are you going to deny a 4-year walk-on a shot in that situation? That wasn't trying to rub it in - that was giving a 4-year walk-on a chance to get a stat in the MVC tourney.

Ledford is considered the off-court leader and is a motivational student-athlete for the team. Celebrating Ledford scoring in the tourney is fitting, deserved by Ledford and shows the respect WSU players have for a player who has practiced with them for 4 years, but rarely gets a chance to see the court.

[NayshunSycamore]

I agree with all the WSU posters on here. At first I was kinda pissed myself that he shot that 3, but then Turgeon said he was a walk on in the post game press conference and then I understood why.

[RoundhouseSteve]

Sr. walkon with 22 minutes all season has the ball in the MVC tourney in probably the last time he'll touch the ball for WSU. Ledford was 0-4 all season on 3-balls. No WSU players make moves to get the ball. Shot clock is down.

Are you going to deny a 4-year walk-on a shot in that situation? That wasn't trying to rub it in - that was giving a 4-year walk-on a chance to get a stat in the MVC tourney.

Ledford is considered the off-court leader and is a motivational student-athlete for the team. Celebrating Ledford scoring in the tourney is fitting, deserved by Ledford and shows the respect WSU players have for a player who has practiced with them for 4 years, but rarely gets a chance to see the court.


Exactly, it's the last time he will probably take the court in stl in his life, give me a break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Ahhh, it's a great day to be a ....................................

[ShockerEngr]

We were at fox and hound and the place erupted when he hit the shot.

Why? The same reason the student section cheers "we want cameron" in the end of blowouts. We just want to see him rewarded for his hard work and dedication

[kabullseye]

Strike three...you're out.

[iSASO]

"Celebrate all night long if you need to! Looked bad on TV. Period."

OK, we will celebrate. Nobody cares about your opinion.

[WSUbballer]

Bradley was up by 7, with 7 seconds to go. Dribbled the clock out, and acted like they had been in the end zone before.
You're a moron. The shot clock was gonna expire before time ran out so the senior walk-on took a three. It wasn't a run-up on ISU, that's for sure. By the way, good call on DU over WSU?? Now, just for your idiocy, I hope MSU pounds UNI and you can show the Valley proud in the N-I-T.

[landmark]

Opps one of our walkons hit a three with us up big late i guess we are just as guilty as WSU...so to Kyle" the kiss of death" smithpeters good shot way to go thanks for working your butt off and never playing much...let teh celebration begin

[Anthroshock]

Looks like UNI found their own Coldblooded.

BTW, Landmark your signature about made me nasally expell my beer!

[landmark]

the best part about it is he actually said it during the postgame press confrence..not in the hallway or the locker room but in the media room..i didn't believe it till i saw it in the paper the next day

[kabullseye]

You're a moron. The shot clock was gonna expire before time ran out so the senior walk-on took a three. It wasn't a run-up on ISU, that's for sure. By the way, good call on DU over WSU?? Now, just for your idiocy, I hope MSU pounds UNI and you can show the Valley proud in the N-I-T.


"Hope" is not a cure.

[kabullseye]

How bad is going to look tonight when you get hammered by Missouri State. You are going to be looking at this season as "what could have been".

"Hammered" must be a word used down south to indicate when someone can't tell the difference between s*** and peanut butter.

[Urbandale Panther]

How bad is going to look tonight when you get hammered by Missouri State. You are going to be looking at this season as "what could have been".


:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

[redbirdtim]

To weigh in on this issue, I think it was just a UNI fan who is frustrated that his favored team finished 6th in the conference (to a team that was predicted 5th that won it). As someone who has friends that are walk-ons, they bust their butt in practice to keep their spot, they pay their own way to go to school. If they have a chance, with the clock winding down to get a shot off in a tournament, that experience means much more than if the final score would read 75-60 instead of 72-60 (or something like that). If you have nothing better to do than whine about something like that, you have problems.

[WSUbballer]

To weigh in on this issue, I think it was just a UNI fan who is frustrated that his favored team finished 6th in the conference (to a team that was predicted 5th that won it). As someone who has friends that are walk-ons, they bust their butt in practice to keep their spot, they pay their own way to go to school. If they have a chance, with the clock winding down to get a shot off in a tournament, that experience means much more than if the final score would read 75-60 instead of 72-60 (or something like that). If you have nothing better to do than whine about something like that, you have problems.
I totally agree. Great post.

[kabullseye]

redbird, you might...and I am just spitballing here...want to get into the habit of actually reading the original post...before you weigh in.

NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT. NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT GOING IN. THE SOPHOMORIC REACTION TO IT BY THE PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WAS BUSH LEAGUE. PURE UNADULTERATED BUSH LEAGUE.

[Divergence]

Get a life.

What is wrong with kids who are playing basketball showing some emotion after watching one of their own who doesn't play much hit his first trey in a tournament game.

Let me remind you, its just a game and its suppose to be fun.

Who are you the Anti-Fun Girl

[kabullseye]

It be, what it be.

Act like you have been in the end zone before.

[topher79]

NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT. NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT GOING IN. THE SOPHOMORIC REACTION TO IT BY THE PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WAS BUSH LEAGUE. PURE UNADULTERATED BUSH LEAGUE.

Obviously you've never played on a basketball team.

[Felix_the_Cat]

redbird, you might...and I am just spitballing here...want to get into the habit of actually reading the original post...before you weigh in.

NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT. NO PROBLEM WITH THE SHOT GOING IN. THE SOPHOMORIC REACTION TO IT BY THE PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WAS BUSH LEAGUE. PURE UNADULTERATED BUSH LEAGUE.

I suppose you think it was bush league when everyone celebrated after the autistic kid in New York scored. Just get over it and quit giving UNI fans a bad name.

[WSUfan]

kabullseye: IMHO you have earned a place on VT as an inferior Cold clone. Keep up your chatter as much as you like but remember No one is listening.

[martymoose]

....and you just gotta bust the threeball.

Excuse the shot if you must, but the group hug and celebration at mid-court?

You're right, we should have let the shot clock expire and got the turnover...I mean, who tries to score when the shot clock is running out right? WSU shouldn't celebrate a win either...

[gopanthers!]

Cool by me if the kid makes a 3.....sounds like he deserves it, and I'm GLAD his teammates celebrated with him. That's probably something he'll remember for the rest of his life, and I'm sure the Indiana State players don't really care whether they lost by 15 or 18- still a loss.

[Tasmanian Devil]

This guy is just looking to ruffle feathers. He makes absolutely no sense. At least it's not a WSU fan for once. :D

[kabullseye]

kabullseye: IMHO you have earned a place on VT as an inferior Cold clone. Keep up your chatter as much as you like but remember No one is listening.

Don't be so hard on yourself, everyone is someone, even you.

Touche'

[iSASO]

So why is it no one else agrees with you?
No one else has a problem with players celebrating a basket by a walk-on who has meant so much to this program over the past four years.

Get a clue, get a life, stop whining.

[cjp27]

It be, what it be.

Act like you have been in the end zone before.

Ever heard the expression 'beating a dead horse'? Let it go, man. It's like the first shot the guy has ever hit in a game, his teammates were happy because the guy busts his ***** in practice every single day with no promises of playing time. I'm sure your friends would be high fiving you if you got a piece of *****. I think that's a fair comparison.

[txsaluki05]

Ah, ValleyTalk, how we've missed thee....

lol i know how you feel

[barkeep1967]

I'm sure your friends would be high fiving you if you got a piece of *****. I think that's a fair comparison.



:D post of the thread tight there.

[PantherCat]

I think its pretty silly to make a big deal about the shot. The walk-on had a chance in the MVC Tourney to make a three-pointer. Good for him! He's been a member of the team for a long time. AND, good for his teammates to celebrate it with him. From the sounds of it, this guy has been working as hard as everyone else on the team all season and throughout his entire career. It was a moment for him to shine and his teammates wanted to help him celebrate. Call me crazy, but its my opinion that moments like that are what sports are actually all about.

And compared to all the other stuff that we have to bust on WSU for, isn't this really a pretty insignificant thing?? :D j/k

Let it go...there are two awesome games coming up today!

[kabullseye]

I'm hit....I'm going down....A converted Mizzou fan?....NCIH!

[Canevision]

It smacked of...something that Shocker fans would agree is no fun to watch...something nauseating....what is it....what did it resemble....ahhhhh....yes.....watching University of Miami football.

Act like you have been in the endzone before.

You obviously know nothing of Miami football. They rarely dance in the end zone, if ever at all.

I think you should try watching a game of their's not from 1987.

[kabullseye]

Canevision, or should we say Caneblindasaflogginbat?

More energy spent celebrating the plays they are supposed to make than making the play itself.

BTW...nice graduation rate.